No Gel Cast & Much Poofiness

clownfaceclownface Registered Users Posts: 3

Can anyone think of a reason I'm not getting a gel cast anymore?

Even though my hair feels dry, I thought it might be overconditioned so I started conditioning less and lo-pooing more but that hasn't worked.

My hair is just staying ridiculously poofy no matter how much gel I use.

If it helps, here's what I use mostly (not all a the same time!):

Tresemme Naturals conditioner, KCKT, KCCC, Ecostyler

Shampoo is British; the ingredients are: Aqua, Sodium lauryl sarcosinate, Sodium cocoamphoacetate, Cocamidopropyl betaine, Coco-glucoside, Glyceryl oleate, Glycol distearate, Glycerin Laureth-4 Hydroxypropyl oxidised starch PG Trimonium chloride, Starch Hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, Sodium chloride, Lactic acid, Sodium lactate, Urea, Parfum, Polyquaternium-72, Crithmum maritimum extract, Laminaria digitata extract, Chondrus crispus extract, PEG-120 Methyl Glucose Dioleate, Citrus aurantium amara (Bitter orange) leaf oil, Rosmarinus officinalis (Rosemary) leaf oil, Citrus aurantifolia (Lime) oil, Pelargonium graveolens (Geranium) oil, Ferula galbaniflua (Galbanum) oil, Rosa damascena (Rose) flower oil, Sodium hydroxymethylglycinate, Ascorbic acid, Potassium sorbate, Citric acid Benzyl salicylate, Linalool, Butylphenyl, methylpropional

Am I doing something blatantly wrong? :confused3:


  • SereneCurlsSereneCurls Registered Users Posts: 1,145 Curl Neophyte
    Has your humidity and dew point changed or been fluctuating lately? The issue you describe makes me think humidity might be to blame.
    3a, dense, fairly coarse, normal porosity and elasticity, just below shoulder
    Low poo: Giovanni 50 50
    Co-wash: aia, suave coconut, salon care
    R O: Tresume Naturals, gvpcb
    L I: KCKT, gvpcb
    Stylers: cjpp, re : coil, kccc, brhg
    Oils: coconut, argan
    Experimenting with: curls rock amplifier, pantene mousse
  • sixelamysixelamy Registered Users Posts: 4,157 Curl Novice
    If your hair feels dry, it's definitely not overconditioned. Sounds like a combination of weather and overly dry hair.

    How are you with protein? I would lay off Ecostyler a bit and see if the protein might be contributing as well.
    2c-3a - med-coarse - normal-high porosity - high density
    NP/LP: CJ Daily Fix, KMF Whenever / Giovanni TTTT
    RO/LI: Aussie Moist, CJ Argan & Olive Oil, Hask Keratin Protein
    DC/PROTEIN: KC Stellar Strands / CNPF
    STYLER: CJ Curl Queen
    COLOR: henna, amla & indigo
    :thumbdown:: glycerin in high/low dews, polyquat-10 & 11, parabens
  • clownfaceclownface Registered Users Posts: 3
    I have suspected it might be protein, but I don't really know how to avoid it. Will have a look for threads about it.

    I literally know nothing about humidity. Just googled and it is 77% in my area today, what can I do knowing that?
  • Morgan_AdcockMorgan_Adcock Registered Users Posts: 2,573 Curl Neophyte
    Humidity doesn't really tell us much. Dew point is a much better predictor of hair behaviour. Dew points of 4.4 - 15.5ºC are ideal, and respond well to a balanced approach with conditioner and gel. Curly hair generally needs more conditioner in lower dew points; and more gel in higher dew points.

    Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
    CGing since July 2008
  • clownfaceclownface Registered Users Posts: 3
    Dewpoint is 10 so I'm not sure it's that.

    I'm so confused :dontknow:
  • curlicious13curlicious13 Registered Users Posts: 1,632 Curl Neophyte
    You hair may need some hydration as well. I never get a gel cast but I get better hold when my hair is hydrated.
  • Morgan_AdcockMorgan_Adcock Registered Users Posts: 2,573 Curl Neophyte
    Well a dew point of 10 °C would be in the ideal range, so it sounds like we can rule that out.

    Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
    CGing since July 2008
  • artemis513artemis513 Registered Users Posts: 666 Curl Neophyte
    Use more conditioner! Go back to low-pooing less and leave in more conditioner. If your hair is dry, you need to address that. You may or may not need more gel too but start with more conditioner first and go from there.
    4a/3c, fine strands, low porosity, medium density
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