high dewpoint gel reccomendation

etosetos Posts: 221Registered Users
Does someone know a good gel for high dewpoints? I use CJ pattern pusha right now, and altough I like it, it doesn't give me enough frizz control in high dewpoints (or should I just use more?).
highlighted 3a hair. Fine strands, medium to high density. Probably high porosity. Growing uit bad layering and aiming for waist lenght!

Pre-poo: coconut oil
wash: CJ Daily fix or SheaMoisture Coconut&Hibiscus
RO + LI: different every time
Styler: CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB

dislikes: glycerin in low dews, scissor happy stylists, magnesium sulfate

(modified) CG since june 25, 2012
Hiarfinity + extra MSM since March 5., 2014

SL - APL - BSBL- BSL - MBL - WL (stretched)

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  • Morgan_AdcockMorgan_Adcock Posts: 2,573Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I wish I knew. The old formula Kiss My Face Upper Management was my go to, and they reformulated it so it's now less natural and humectant rich.
    Peace,
    Morgan

    Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
    CGing since July 2008
  • rbbrbb Posts: 4,355Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    if your hair is reactive to high dew points, try sealing it before you apply the pattern pusha.

    3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity :-(
    washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
    leave in:curl junkie conditioners and treatments as leave in
    styling: curl junkie 
    sealants - jane carter nourish & shine
  • curlylox25curlylox25 Posts: 50Registered Users
    Right now I'm experimenting with making flaxseed gel and topping that with a small bit of volumax gel. Seems to be working well!


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  • wavydazewavydaze Posts: 2,065Registered Users Curl Novice
    I like the FSG + volumax combo!

    Try using more of the cJ pp see if that helps. You may need to top it with a humectant free hard hold gel... Volumax mega, Giovanni LA natural, la looks sports....
    2bc/ f / ii. low porosity roots + normal-high porosity shaft where bleached. normal elasticity.

    Currently using:
    Poo: Earthbath Oatmeal & Aloe
    RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: UFD CM, CJ PP
    PT: CJ Repair Me

    :thumright: hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
    :angry8: guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
    Neutral on cones.

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  • yestheyrerealyestheyrereal Posts: 54Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I'm having the same problem. I've been using la looks sport gel on top of the pp but I'm still getting frizz. Should I try using more gel? Which one?
    2c/3a
    Low-high porosity, fine/medium, high density thick hair, highlighted
    Modified CG since 12/2013
  • FimuFimu Posts: 322Registered Users Curl Neophyte
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  • rbbrbb Posts: 4,355Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    both cjpp and lalsg are humectant free. it is possible if the dew points in the high range that her hair might need a sealant to prevent the moisture from the air getting in.
    generally, for me, cjpp is enough in the summer. but the dews don't go much above the mid 60s, sometimes more, but not too much. and, my hair is dry so it loves all the moisture it can get.
    if the flax seed gel is working, then that is good.

    3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity :-(
    washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
    leave in:curl junkie conditioners and treatments as leave in
    styling: curl junkie 
    sealants - jane carter nourish & shine
  • Geek_ChicGeek_Chic Posts: 1,275Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Unless they changed the formula, the last bottle of LALSG I picked up had sorbitol, glycerin, and propylene glycol, all of which are humectants.

    Aqua/Water/EauWater , PVP , Sorbitol , Carbomer , Keratin Amino Acid , Panthenyl Ethyl Ether , Palmitoyl Oligopeptide , Glyceryl Polymethacrylate , Propylene Glycol , Glycerin , Oleth 20 , Rahnella Soy Protein Ferment , Amino Methyl Propanol , PEG 8 , Tetrasodium EDTA , Benzophenone 4 , Methylparaben , Diazolidinyl Urea , Methylchloroisothiazolinone , Methylisothiazolinone , Parfum (Fragrance) , Butylphenyl Methlyproprional , Hydroxyisohexl 3 Cyclohexene Carboxaldehyde , Limonene , Hexylcinnamal , Linalool , Benzyl Salicylate , Citronellol , Ext D&C Violet 2 (CI 60730)Ext Violet 2 , FD&C Blue 1 (CI 42090)Blue 1
    CG since 11/2011
    2c /3a F /Mii, low porosity

    Go To Products /Routine:
    Clarifying: Suave Essentials Strawberry
    Low Poo: Renpure Luxurious Argan Oil
    CO: Suave Essentials Strawberry, V05 Kiwi Lime
    RO /LI: Tresemme Perfectly (un)Done, Cure Care, V05 Kiwi Lime Squeeze, Suave Essentials Strawberry, Renpure Brazilian Keratin (old formula)
    Stylers: LALSG, AIF, HETT, Suave Professionals Firm Control
    PT: IAGirl's as needed
  • curlylox25curlylox25 Posts: 50Registered Users
    Yes my bottle of lalsg is not humectant free. That's why I'm using volumax.


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  • yestheyrerealyestheyrereal Posts: 54Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Aha! Thanks! I didn't realize all of those ingredients were humectants.
    2c/3a
    Low-high porosity, fine/medium, high density thick hair, highlighted
    Modified CG since 12/2013
  • Geek_ChicGeek_Chic Posts: 1,275Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Aha! Thanks! I didn't realize all of those ingredients were humectants.

    This page is a good reference for what a given ingredient is, although it isn't all inclusive: Ingredients Commonly Found in Hair-Care Products.

    I did a quick check on CJPP's ingredients, and it isn't quite humectant free either. It has both panthenol (7th ingredient) and propylene glycol (9th ingredient), though in those quantities they might not cause issues in high dews. It isn't easy finding a truly humectant free gel, sadly.
    CG since 11/2011
    2c /3a F /Mii, low porosity

    Go To Products /Routine:
    Clarifying: Suave Essentials Strawberry
    Low Poo: Renpure Luxurious Argan Oil
    CO: Suave Essentials Strawberry, V05 Kiwi Lime
    RO /LI: Tresemme Perfectly (un)Done, Cure Care, V05 Kiwi Lime Squeeze, Suave Essentials Strawberry, Renpure Brazilian Keratin (old formula)
    Stylers: LALSG, AIF, HETT, Suave Professionals Firm Control
    PT: IAGirl's as needed
  • curlicious13curlicious13 Posts: 1,632Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    While la wet look gel has a bunch of humectants in it, it hasn't failed me yet. I'm getting so many compliments on my hair since I've been using it. It also keeps my hair hydrated so my curls pop. My go to styler.
  • yestheyrerealyestheyrereal Posts: 54Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Used my CJPP and JCRR without LALSG and my hair is awesome today. Thanks! I really love that hard hold but I guess in the high dew I don't need it since my hair gets curlier.
    2c/3a
    Low-high porosity, fine/medium, high density thick hair, highlighted
    Modified CG since 12/2013

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