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LA Gels

blondewavyblondewavy Posts: 3Registered Users
How many of you wavies use the LA Looks gels? I hear a lot about the Sports gel.. I currently use the Wet Look gel and I love it. But am curious about the Sports.

I know a lot of people complain about the "crunch" but I actually prefer the crunch because it's the only way the curls will hold in my hair all day.

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  • anonymous_166474anonymous_166474 Posts: 70Registered Users
    It has too much hold for me. My daughter loves it though. Her favorite LA gel is L.A. Looks Perfect Polish Anti-Frizz Shine Gel, Mega Hold 8 - 20 oz.

    I must say, it makes her hair look tons better than the level 10.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Kosher Curls
    mostly 3b curls
    Low Porosity
    fine, medium, coarse
    medium to high density
    Products: Giovanni direct leave in and olive or argan oil eco styler.

    LONG: 10"+ (armpit to waist length)
  • tengoRizostengoRizos Posts: 195Registered Users
    I'm not sure if it is exactly LA looks, but maybe an off-brand, but there used to be a bright pink one just for curls. I'll look into it more.
    2c/3a mix and very fine, normal porosity
    Shampoo: Loreal EverSleek Sulfate-free (Only 1 or 2x a week)

    CoWash Suave Naturals Coconut or VO5 Kiwi Lime Squeeze

    Rinse Out: Giovanni 2chic Avocado and Olive Oil or GVPCB

    Leave in: More Suave Naturals Coconut or GVPCB Always diluted with water/epsom salt spray

    Products: AG Re:coil with EcoStyler Olive Oil gel or HETT gel


  • wavywonderwavywonder Posts: 32Registered Users
    I often use the Sports gel and it's among my top 3 products, along with Condition 3 in 1 Mousse. I use just a small amount with wet hands in damp to wet hair and it gives me a lot of shine and bounce. The low price is a huge plus too. I just can't bring myself to buy super expensive products for my hair when something that costs less than 3 dollars literally works just as well or better. So yeah...I love it :toothy10:
  • WeathercurlWeathercurl Posts: 228Registered Users
    The sports gel is one of my faves. Right now I'm experimenting with going without any styler at all (just co washing and air drying). But if I want real curl definition that lasts a few days I will go to the LA sports gel most often. I use 2 or 3 dollops on very wet hair, then diffuse dry. It's inexpensive, has great hold, and scrunches out nicely. I've tried the BRHG and found it leaves my hair too stringy even after scrunching, plus its very expensive.

    I think gels can be tricky for us wavies but this one works well for me. Having said that, my day one hair with gel is my least favorite even though the curl definition is the strongest. I much prefer second/third day hair as it softens up enough for good volume and still maintains the defined curls and spirals throughout (with the LA gel). I have better volume on first day hair using mousse or even no styler but the curls fade and frizz sets in by day two. Gel is my long term strategy for multiple day hair.
    2b/2c ( weather permitting - 3a), fine texture but lots of it, colored and highlights, BSL.
    Experimenting w CG since Oct 2012

    Current rotation:
    cowash= TN
    AG Gel Mousse, LA Gel,
    DT = Coconut oil (love)
  • tengoRizostengoRizos Posts: 195Registered Users
    tengoRizos wrote: »
    I'm not sure if it is exactly LA looks, but maybe an off-brand, but there used to be a bright pink one just for curls. I'll look into it more.


    Found it! It's called La Bella. I bought their blue sports gel because Target was out of LA Looks. But they did have a bright pink one. I haven't used it in a while, but I did like it.
    2c/3a mix and very fine, normal porosity
    Shampoo: Loreal EverSleek Sulfate-free (Only 1 or 2x a week)

    CoWash Suave Naturals Coconut or VO5 Kiwi Lime Squeeze

    Rinse Out: Giovanni 2chic Avocado and Olive Oil or GVPCB

    Leave in: More Suave Naturals Coconut or GVPCB Always diluted with water/epsom salt spray

    Products: AG Re:coil with EcoStyler Olive Oil gel or HETT gel


  • curlicious13curlicious13 Posts: 1,632Registered Users
    I like the la looks wet look gel better than the sport. I get better hold with the wet look than the sport get. My hair will poof out more with the sport gel.
  • caramix3acaramix3a Posts: 460Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I've been a fan of LA Looks gels for many years now, starting with their old light green Mega Gel(there was a trial size tube in my landlady's bathroom while we were taking care of her house while we were living in New Mexico, and I fell in love with the product). Then I used their bright turquoise Curl Look gel until it was discontinued. That was so good, and the replacement, the Nutra-Curl wasn't as good. So I moved up further to the Sports one(dark royal blue) - easy to find, cheap, and works GREAT on my hair. Since have dense plentiful hair, I have to go cheap with my products! No sense spending big $$ if one is going to go through a tube of expensive styler in just a few uses. As far as the crunch and the hard hold, I need the hard hold initially to set things up. Then I scrunch out the crunch anyway, so no problem.:)
  • arelarel Posts: 54Registered Users
    Is there a specific way to apply the gel? I can totally say I have waves, some people has speculated that I might be a 2b ...

    I got the LA blue gel and used it a couple of times ... but my hair gets super stringy (maybe too much product) the first day... If I don't use any product, you can see some waves, but they don't last and become super frizzy.

    The second time I used it, it left a white residue.... :(

    I must be doing something wrong....
    CO: VO5 KLSC Conditioner
    RO: SNCT
    PT: AIgirl's gelatin recipe

    Testing: LALSAG, AVG,
  • Geek_ChicGeek_Chic Posts: 1,255Registered Users
    arel wrote: »
    Is there a specific way to apply the gel? I can totally say I have waves, some people has speculated that I might be a 2b ...

    I got the LA blue gel and used it a couple of times ... but my hair gets super stringy (maybe too much product) the first day... If I don't use any product, you can see some waves, but they don't last and become super frizzy.

    The second time I used it, it left a white residue.... :(

    I must be doing something wrong....

    There are several ways you can apply gel, but you'll have to experiment to see which one or which combo works for you. You can rake it in, scrunch it in, rake then scrunch. You can try the Super Soaker method. Some like to apply upside down, while others prefer right side up. Many get best results on soaking wet hair after they apply their leave-in, but others find they prefer lightly t-shirt scrunching before adding leave-in and gel. If LA Looks Sport gel is too thick /heavy for you, you can even try diluting with water before applying.

    If you find you don't have much volume once your hair has dried and you've SOTC'd (scrunched out the crunch), you can slide your fingers in underneath the surface of your hair and do a root shuffle to increase volume without creating surface frizz. You can also try clipping at the crown while hair is wet, which helps give root lift.

    I don't know what your hair properties are (porosity, texture, density, elasticity), but for my fine 2C /3A hair, I get best results applying gel to soaking wet hair. I apply my leave-in if I'm using one, then rake my gel in upside down. Then flip right side up to be sure I get adequate coverage in the crown area, and scrunch gently to help reactivate curls.
    CG since 11/2011
    2c /3a F /Mii, low porosity

    Go To Products /Routine:
    Clarifying: Suave Essentials Strawberry
    Low Poo: Renpure Luxurious Argan Oil
    CO: Suave Essentials Strawberry, V05 Kiwi Lime
    RO /LI: Tresemme Perfectly (un)Done, Cure Care, V05 Kiwi Lime Squeeze, Suave Essentials Strawberry, Renpure Brazilian Keratin (old formula)
    Stylers: LALSG, AIF, HETT, Suave Professionals Firm Control
    PT: IAGirl's as needed
  • arelarel Posts: 54Registered Users
    Geek_Chic wrote: »
    arel wrote: »
    Is there a specific way to apply the gel? I can totally say I have waves, some people has speculated that I might be a 2b ...

    I got the LA blue gel and used it a couple of times ... but my hair gets super stringy (maybe too much product) the first day... If I don't use any product, you can see some waves, but they don't last and become super frizzy.

    The second time I used it, it left a white residue.... :(

    I must be doing something wrong....

    There are several ways you can apply gel, but you'll have to experiment to see which one or which combo works for you. You can rake it in, scrunch it in, rake then scrunch. You can try the Super Soaker method. Some like to apply upside down, while others prefer right side up. Many get best results on soaking wet hair after they apply their leave-in, but others find they prefer lightly t-shirt scrunching before adding leave-in and gel. If LA Looks Sport gel is too thick /heavy for you, you can even try diluting with water before applying.

    If you find you don't have much volume once your hair has dried and you've SOTC'd (scrunched out the crunch), you can slide your fingers in underneath the surface of your hair and do a root shuffle to increase volume without creating surface frizz. You can also try clipping at the crown while hair is wet, which helps give root lift.

    I don't know what your hair properties are (porosity, texture, density, elasticity), but for my fine 2C /3A hair, I get best results applying gel to soaking wet hair. I apply my leave-in if I'm using one, then rake my gel in upside down. Then flip right side up to be sure I get adequate coverage in the crown area, and scrunch gently to help reactivate curls.

    Thanks so much for the reply. I am not sure about the properties. I just know that my hair is coarse, loves protein, and when I used to go to the hairstylists they would say 'wow, you have a lot of hair' ....

    I will try applying the gel diluted... should I just get little gel and add water to it? or another product?
    CO: VO5 KLSC Conditioner
    RO: SNCT
    PT: AIgirl's gelatin recipe

    Testing: LALSAG, AVG,
  • rbbrbb Posts: 4,088Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    if your hair is truly coarse it would not love protein at all. many stylists tell curlies they have coarse hair but in reality it's most likely just dry. i was told that for many years and my hair texture is normal.
    most curlies have fine hair, some have normal, and a few have coarse hair.

    3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity :-(
    washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
    leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
    styling: cj aloe fix gel, cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab.
    sealants - jane carter nourish & shine
  • arelarel Posts: 54Registered Users


    Thanks for your comment rbb... I am not curly curly... at least not yet... I am a wavy (I think)... with lots of hair... ;)

    I am really confused then... I would do a full pack of gelatin every week and sometimes I feel like I need to do it more often, because my hair absorbs it like nothing! ... I have mostly virgin hair... and my strands are rough and thick... that is why I said it's coarse...

    Anyway, I will experiment diluting the gel with water first... and see how that goes...

    See pics below... right after a protein treatment, air dried and no products in it...


    9c91a0f7-f91e-43ce-81b1-3d1029848555_zps7131fe59.jpg
    9667a3a9-27a0-4fc8-b4c6-27b636262783_zps33b778c4.jpg
    CO: VO5 KLSC Conditioner
    RO: SNCT
    PT: AIgirl's gelatin recipe

    Testing: LALSAG, AVG,
  • arelarel Posts: 54Registered Users
    Oh God... pics are huge... sorry :(
    CO: VO5 KLSC Conditioner
    RO: SNCT
    PT: AIgirl's gelatin recipe

    Testing: LALSAG, AVG,
  • rbbrbb Posts: 4,088Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    it's difficult for me to guess texture. two sites that might help you:

    Curl Junkie - Natural Hair Care for all types of Curly Hair! -- go to the february 2010 blog, it even has a picture that is helpful.

    other website is livingcurlylivingfree.com.

    and, hopefully others here will give you more info.

    3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity :-(
    washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
    leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
    styling: cj aloe fix gel, cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab.
    sealants - jane carter nourish & shine
  • curlicious13curlicious13 Posts: 1,632Registered Users
    La sort gel will leave you stringy but I diffuse using a blow dryer on a cool setting. That gets rid of the stringy for me once dry.
  • CurlyShorty3405CurlyShorty3405 Posts: 196Registered Users
    arel wrote: »


    Thanks for your comment rbb... I am not curly curly... at least not yet... I am a wavy (I think)... with lots of hair... ;)

    I am really confused then... I would do a full pack of gelatin every week and sometimes I feel like I need to do it more often, because my hair absorbs it like nothing! ... I have mostly virgin hair... and my strands are rough and thick... that is why I said it's coarse...

    Anyway, I will experiment diluting the gel with water first... and see how that goes...

    See pics below... right after a protein treatment, air dried and no products in it...


    9c91a0f7-f91e-43ce-81b1-3d1029848555_zps7131fe59.jpg
    9667a3a9-27a0-4fc8-b4c6-27b636262783_zps33b778c4.jpg

    Your curls are freaking gorgeous!!! Is your hair all one length or do you have layers too?
    2B-2C Density-Medium/High Width-medium Length-Medium

    LoPoo: Onesta Hydrating Shampoo
    CoWash: LP Curl Conditioning Wash
    ROs: Onesta Hydrating Conditioner, LP Curl Detangling Rinse
    Weekly DC: LP Restore Mask Treatment
    Leave in: LP Restore Targeted Repair Cream
    Stylers: (in application order): LP Prime Style Extender Cream, LI, LP Curl Defining Style Cream, LP No Frizz Weightless Styling Spray, LP PHD Night Cap
    Sealer: Body Shop Olive Oil/Body Shop Argan Oil/Josie Maran Argan Oil
  • arelarel Posts: 54Registered Users
    arel wrote: »


    Thanks for your comment rbb... I am not curly curly... at least not yet... I am a wavy (I think)... with lots of hair... ;)

    I am really confused then... I would do a full pack of gelatin every week and sometimes I feel like I need to do it more often, because my hair absorbs it like nothing! ... I have mostly virgin hair... and my strands are rough and thick... that is why I said it's coarse...

    Anyway, I will experiment diluting the gel with water first... and see how that goes...

    See pics below... right after a protein treatment, air dried and no products in it...


    9c91a0f7-f91e-43ce-81b1-3d1029848555_zps7131fe59.jpg
    9667a3a9-27a0-4fc8-b4c6-27b636262783_zps33b778c4.jpg

    Your curls are freaking gorgeous!!! Is your hair all one length or do you have layers too?

    Thank you so much.... I don't think anyone has ever said that to me :love3: ever.... I really appreciate it....:love7::love7::love7:

    Not layers - layers... last time I had a haircut was in 2011... since then I micro trim my hair from time to time... the shorter parts (on the sides) are my bangs... lol... or my old layer catching up...

    This is where I started:
    tn4.jpg
    CO: VO5 KLSC Conditioner
    RO: SNCT
    PT: AIgirl's gelatin recipe

    Testing: LALSAG, AVG,
  • CurlyShorty3405CurlyShorty3405 Posts: 196Registered Users
    arel wrote: »
    arel wrote: »


    Thanks for your comment rbb... I am not curly curly... at least not yet... I am a wavy (I think)... with lots of hair... ;)

    I am really confused then... I would do a full pack of gelatin every week and sometimes I feel like I need to do it more often, because my hair absorbs it like nothing! ... I have mostly virgin hair... and my strands are rough and thick... that is why I said it's coarse...

    Anyway, I will experiment diluting the gel with water first... and see how that goes...

    See pics below... right after a protein treatment, air dried and no products in it...


    9c91a0f7-f91e-43ce-81b1-3d1029848555_zps7131fe59.jpg
    9667a3a9-27a0-4fc8-b4c6-27b636262783_zps33b778c4.jpg

    Your curls are freaking gorgeous!!! Is your hair all one length or do you have layers too?

    Thank you so much.... I don't think anyone has ever said that to me :love3: ever.... I really appreciate it....:love7::love7::love7:

    Not layers - layers... last time I had a haircut was in 2011... since then I micro trim my hair from time to time... the shorter parts (on the sides) are my bangs... lol... or my old layer catching up...

    This is where I started:
    tn4.jpg


    When I get my hair trimmed, I only get taken off what needs to be taken off (I'm trying to grow my hair out). I used to have all one length, and now I have layers because I feel that layers are a lot easier to manage. My hair is shorter in the front too cause I'm growing out the bangs that I had. I feel like you and I have similar hair type.
    2B-2C Density-Medium/High Width-medium Length-Medium

    LoPoo: Onesta Hydrating Shampoo
    CoWash: LP Curl Conditioning Wash
    ROs: Onesta Hydrating Conditioner, LP Curl Detangling Rinse
    Weekly DC: LP Restore Mask Treatment
    Leave in: LP Restore Targeted Repair Cream
    Stylers: (in application order): LP Prime Style Extender Cream, LI, LP Curl Defining Style Cream, LP No Frizz Weightless Styling Spray, LP PHD Night Cap
    Sealer: Body Shop Olive Oil/Body Shop Argan Oil/Josie Maran Argan Oil
  • arelarel Posts: 54Registered Users
    arel wrote: »

    Your curls are freaking gorgeous!!! Is your hair all one length or do you have layers too?

    Thank you so much.... I don't think anyone has ever said that to me :love3: ever.... I really appreciate it....:love7::love7::love7:

    Not layers - layers... last time I had a haircut was in 2011... since then I micro trim my hair from time to time... the shorter parts (on the sides) are my bangs... lol... or my old layer catching up...

    This is where I started:


    When I get my hair trimmed, I only get taken off what needs to be taken off (I'm trying to grow my hair out). I used to have all one length, and now I have layers because I feel that layers are a lot easier to manage. My hair is shorter in the front too cause I'm growing out the bangs that I had. I feel like you and I have similar hair type.

    The last pic was a 'trim' I got from a hairstylist... I had BSL hair back then...

    Reading your description, I also think we might have similar hair types... I don't know much about hair properties, since even when I stopped using shampoo a while ago, I still have too much to learn ... Just very recently learned my hair loves protein (at the beginning of this month)...

    My next step is to learn how to use gel...

    CO: VO5 KLSC Conditioner
    RO: SNCT
    PT: AIgirl's gelatin recipe

    Testing: LALSAG, AVG,
  • CurlyShorty3405CurlyShorty3405 Posts: 196Registered Users
    arel wrote: »
    arel wrote: »

    Thank you so much.... I don't think anyone has ever said that to me :love3: ever.... I really appreciate it....:love7::love7::love7:

    Not layers - layers... last time I had a haircut was in 2011... since then I micro trim my hair from time to time... the shorter parts (on the sides) are my bangs... lol... or my old layer catching up...

    This is where I started:


    When I get my hair trimmed, I only get taken off what needs to be taken off (I'm trying to grow my hair out). I used to have all one length, and now I have layers because I feel that layers are a lot easier to manage. My hair is shorter in the front too cause I'm growing out the bangs that I had. I feel like you and I have similar hair type.

    The last pic was a 'trim' I got from a hairstylist... I had BSL hair back then...

    Reading your description, I also think we might have similar hair types... I don't know much about hair properties, since even when I stopped using shampoo a while ago, I still have too much to learn ... Just very recently learned my hair loves protein (at the beginning of this month)...

    My next step is to learn how to use gel...



    My hair hates gel, mousse and curl creams. My hair loves protein too. I actually take a keratin supplement and use coconut oil, which is rich in protein as an overnight deep conditioning treatment. Once a year I get the Paul Mitchell Awapuhi Wild Ginger KeraTriPlex keratin deep conditioning treatment at the salon that I go to, and my hair loves it. Since I've started taking keratin, I've noticed that my hair has a lot less breakage.
    2B-2C Density-Medium/High Width-medium Length-Medium

    LoPoo: Onesta Hydrating Shampoo
    CoWash: LP Curl Conditioning Wash
    ROs: Onesta Hydrating Conditioner, LP Curl Detangling Rinse
    Weekly DC: LP Restore Mask Treatment
    Leave in: LP Restore Targeted Repair Cream
    Stylers: (in application order): LP Prime Style Extender Cream, LI, LP Curl Defining Style Cream, LP No Frizz Weightless Styling Spray, LP PHD Night Cap
    Sealer: Body Shop Olive Oil/Body Shop Argan Oil/Josie Maran Argan Oil
  • CGSince2002CGSince2002 Posts: 1,073Banned Users
    For good clumping apply your gel on wet hair and try the "scrunch and pump". Nice waves, btw! Your hair reminded me so much of my daughter's, but lately she's given up on wearing it wavy, she never wanted to listen to me when I wanted to show her how to do it... like they say (more or less), "a prophet is not welcome in his own town".
    Joined Curltalk 1st time in early '02 shortly after starting CG. I'm a non-practicing Cosmetologist.
    Hair: color-treated, mostly 3A.
    CO-wash: VO5 K&L
    RO: SpaHaus Salon w/OO, VO5 Shea Cashmere, W.R. Trop. Coconut, Daily Defense Moisturizing & others.
    LI: Beautiful Curls w/Shea Butter & C.O., Hollywood Beauty OO Creme, VO5 K&L, Aveda Be Curly Curl Enhancer.
    Gels: LAL Wet Look, ORS Lock & Twist.
    Oils: Jojoba, EVCO & Africa's Best Ultimate Herbal Oil

  • arelarel Posts: 54Registered Users
    arel wrote: »


    When I get my hair trimmed, I only get taken off what needs to be taken off (I'm trying to grow my hair out). I used to have all one length, and now I have layers because I feel that layers are a lot easier to manage. My hair is shorter in the front too cause I'm growing out the bangs that I had. I feel like you and I have similar hair type.

    The last pic was a 'trim' I got from a hairstylist... I had BSL hair back then...

    Reading your description, I also think we might have similar hair types... I don't know much about hair properties, since even when I stopped using shampoo a while ago, I still have too much to learn ... Just very recently learned my hair loves protein (at the beginning of this month)...

    My next step is to learn how to use gel...



    My hair hates gel, mousse and curl creams. My hair loves protein too. I actually take a keratin supplement and use coconut oil, which is rich in protein as an overnight deep conditioning treatment. Once a year I get the Paul Mitchell Awapuhi Wild Ginger KeraTriPlex keratin deep conditioning treatment at the salon that I go to, and my hair loves it. Since I've started taking keratin, I've noticed that my hair has a lot less breakage.

    I don't think my hair 'hates' gel... at least, I have not seen anything that gives me that impression. Maybe I should give FSG another try...

    As for the protein, I do the gel Knox pack... the first time I tried protein was with Palmer's coconut... and I noticed it 'straightened' my waves... but then, when I used the full strength gelatin, it was a 180 degrees change... My hair never felt so soft and nice... and started 'curling' more...
    CO: VO5 KLSC Conditioner
    RO: SNCT
    PT: AIgirl's gelatin recipe

    Testing: LALSAG, AVG,
  • arelarel Posts: 54Registered Users
    For good clumping apply your gel on wet hair and try the "scrunch and pump". Nice waves, btw! Your hair reminded me so much of my daughter's, but lately she's given up on wearing it wavy, she never wanted to listen to me when I wanted to show her how to do it... like they say (more or less), "a prophet is not welcome in his own town".

    I tried this yesterday... with little gel mix with water... I saw some parts that really curled up nicely, the top of my hair, however, was still wavy and frizzy... next time I will add more gel... and will continue experimenting...

    Thanks for the compliment :)
    CO: VO5 KLSC Conditioner
    RO: SNCT
    PT: AIgirl's gelatin recipe

    Testing: LALSAG, AVG,
  • SpiralliSpiralli Posts: 3,654Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    My hair hates gel, mousse and curl creams. My hair loves protein too. I actually take a keratin supplement and use coconut oil, which is rich in protein as an overnight deep conditioning treatment. Once a year I get the Paul Mitchell Awapuhi Wild Ginger KeraTriPlex keratin deep conditioning treatment at the salon that I go to, and my hair loves it. Since I've started taking keratin, I've noticed that my hair has a lot less breakage.

    What type of keratin are you taking? Supplements?
    Location: Texas
    Type: 3b/3c (i), below shoulder length.
    CO wash: A-O GPB LYY, Desert Essence Coconut, Oribe Silverati
    Leave-ins: Curl Junkie Beauti-Curls, KCKT, cno overnight
    Styling: BRHG, MGA Sculpting Gel, A-O Mandarin Magic Gel, LOTD AVG, LALSG, CJ Pattern Pusha
    DT: Curl Junkie Deep Fix, Briogeo Don't Despair Repair!
  • CurlyShorty3405CurlyShorty3405 Posts: 196Registered Users
    Spiralli wrote: »
    My hair hates gel, mousse and curl creams. My hair loves protein too. I actually take a keratin supplement and use coconut oil, which is rich in protein as an overnight deep conditioning treatment. Once a year I get the Paul Mitchell Awapuhi Wild Ginger KeraTriPlex keratin deep conditioning treatment at the salon that I go to, and my hair loves it. Since I've started taking keratin, I've noticed that my hair has a lot less breakage.

    What type of keratin are you taking? Supplements?

    I take a 50 mg keratin supplement and then my weekly deep conditioning treatment has keratin and hydrolyzed keratin in it.
    2B-2C Density-Medium/High Width-medium Length-Medium

    LoPoo: Onesta Hydrating Shampoo
    CoWash: LP Curl Conditioning Wash
    ROs: Onesta Hydrating Conditioner, LP Curl Detangling Rinse
    Weekly DC: LP Restore Mask Treatment
    Leave in: LP Restore Targeted Repair Cream
    Stylers: (in application order): LP Prime Style Extender Cream, LI, LP Curl Defining Style Cream, LP No Frizz Weightless Styling Spray, LP PHD Night Cap
    Sealer: Body Shop Olive Oil/Body Shop Argan Oil/Josie Maran Argan Oil
  • arelarel Posts: 54Registered Users
    arel wrote: »
    For good clumping apply your gel on wet hair and try the "scrunch and pump". Nice waves, btw! Your hair reminded me so much of my daughter's, but lately she's given up on wearing it wavy, she never wanted to listen to me when I wanted to show her how to do it... like they say (more or less), "a prophet is not welcome in his own town".

    I tried this yesterday... with little gel mix with water... I saw some parts that really curled up nicely, the top of my hair, however, was still wavy and frizzy... next time I will add more gel... and will continue experimenting...

    Thanks for the compliment :)

    Too much gel this morning, I think .... I used just a little bit more than last time, but now my ends are stringy.... let's see what can I do to get to a better wave definition...
    CO: VO5 KLSC Conditioner
    RO: SNCT
    PT: AIgirl's gelatin recipe

    Testing: LALSAG, AVG,
  • CGSince2002CGSince2002 Posts: 1,073Banned Users


    My hair hates gel, mousse and curl creams. My hair loves protein too. I actually take a keratin supplement and use coconut oil, which is rich in protein as an overnight deep conditioning treatment. Once a year I get the Paul Mitchell Awapuhi Wild Ginger KeraTriPlex keratin deep conditioning treatment at the salon that I go to, and my hair loves it. Since I've started taking keratin, I've noticed that my hair has a lot less breakage.

    I missed this before and I need to tell you that is a misconception some people have been spreading around. Any real oil by definition cannot contain any protein, the label will tell you there's '0' grams. What really seems to happen is that c.o. is a penetrating oil that appears to protect the integrity of the hair's keratin, but it doesn't add any, so it's good for healthy hair and hair that's just slightly damaged but it will not do any wonders for truly damaged hair.
    Joined Curltalk 1st time in early '02 shortly after starting CG. I'm a non-practicing Cosmetologist.
    Hair: color-treated, mostly 3A.
    CO-wash: VO5 K&L
    RO: SpaHaus Salon w/OO, VO5 Shea Cashmere, W.R. Trop. Coconut, Daily Defense Moisturizing & others.
    LI: Beautiful Curls w/Shea Butter & C.O., Hollywood Beauty OO Creme, VO5 K&L, Aveda Be Curly Curl Enhancer.
    Gels: LAL Wet Look, ORS Lock & Twist.
    Oils: Jojoba, EVCO & Africa's Best Ultimate Herbal Oil

  • CGSince2002CGSince2002 Posts: 1,073Banned Users
    Arel:

    Try a honey rinse or add a little to your LI, it enhances curling and adds shine. Do a search here to see how different people use it. In this thread I mentioned my "emergency" spray because I forgot to do the rinse (or add it to the LI), together with the E.S. it gave a lot of curling without having to scrunch. I've also used it
    (no more than 1/8 tsp.) mixed with FOTE to give it more holding power.

    Btw, if a single hair looks thick then your description of your hair as "coarse" is accurate. Did you use to straighten it often?
    Joined Curltalk 1st time in early '02 shortly after starting CG. I'm a non-practicing Cosmetologist.
    Hair: color-treated, mostly 3A.
    CO-wash: VO5 K&L
    RO: SpaHaus Salon w/OO, VO5 Shea Cashmere, W.R. Trop. Coconut, Daily Defense Moisturizing & others.
    LI: Beautiful Curls w/Shea Butter & C.O., Hollywood Beauty OO Creme, VO5 K&L, Aveda Be Curly Curl Enhancer.
    Gels: LAL Wet Look, ORS Lock & Twist.
    Oils: Jojoba, EVCO & Africa's Best Ultimate Herbal Oil

  • CurlyShorty3405CurlyShorty3405 Posts: 196Registered Users


    My hair hates gel, mousse and curl creams. My hair loves protein too. I actually take a keratin supplement and use coconut oil, which is rich in protein as an overnight deep conditioning treatment. Once a year I get the Paul Mitchell Awapuhi Wild Ginger KeraTriPlex keratin deep conditioning treatment at the salon that I go to, and my hair loves it. Since I've started taking keratin, I've noticed that my hair has a lot less breakage.

    I missed this before and I need to tell you that is a misconception some people have been spreading around. Any real oil by definition cannot contain any protein, the label will tell you there's '0' grams. What really seems to happen is that c.o. is a penetrating oil that appears to protect the integrity of the hair's keratin, but it doesn't add any, so it's good for healthy hair and hair that's just slightly damaged but it will not do any wonders for truly damaged hair.

    Geek_Chic already pointed out to me that Coconut Oil doesn't have protein.
    2B-2C Density-Medium/High Width-medium Length-Medium

    LoPoo: Onesta Hydrating Shampoo
    CoWash: LP Curl Conditioning Wash
    ROs: Onesta Hydrating Conditioner, LP Curl Detangling Rinse
    Weekly DC: LP Restore Mask Treatment
    Leave in: LP Restore Targeted Repair Cream
    Stylers: (in application order): LP Prime Style Extender Cream, LI, LP Curl Defining Style Cream, LP No Frizz Weightless Styling Spray, LP PHD Night Cap
    Sealer: Body Shop Olive Oil/Body Shop Argan Oil/Josie Maran Argan Oil
  • arelarel Posts: 54Registered Users
    Arel:

    Try a honey rinse or add a little to your LI, it enhances curling and adds shine. Do a search here to see how different people use it. In this thread I mentioned my "emergency" spray because I forgot to do the rinse (or add it to the LI), together with the E.S. it gave a lot of curling without having to scrunch. I've also used it
    (no more than 1/8 tsp.) mixed with FOTE to give it more holding power.

    Btw, if a single hair looks thick then your description of your hair as "coarse" is accurate. Did you use to straighten it often?

    Hi and thanks for taking the time to read and reply to my posts. I have soooo many questions regarding hair, I feel bad for asking and/or hijacking threads (like I just did with this one :( )

    I tried the honey with a gelatin PT, I must confess I was scared thinking it would leave my hair sticky, but I was pleasantly surprised my hair was sooooo shiny and soft... and yes, it curled nicely after the gelatin...

    Regarding your question about straightening... yes, almost 4 years ago got a 'keratin straightening treatment' that left me with super straight and smooth hair... months later, my hair went back to crazy/frizzy state...

    Before that, thanks to a 'friend' that told me that if I used heat protector and a good quality flat iron, my hair would actually be better... my routine was to straighten my hair at least twice a week.

    Not sure if the damage is all gone. I stopped getting hair cuts 2 years ago (as mentioned before I went from BSL to CL) Before that, I would get regular hair cuts at least 4 - 6 months and never had hair longer than APL.

    But, now that I think about it, my hair strands have always been 'thick' to the touch and the eye... btw, my brother sent me a pic from when I was around 12, and I can see my bangs (my only attempt to have when I was a child) were actually a halo of frizz and a chunk of hair forming a wave stick to my forehead... ) :dontknow:
    CO: VO5 KLSC Conditioner
    RO: SNCT
    PT: AIgirl's gelatin recipe

    Testing: LALSAG, AVG,
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