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Heavy Products

I was just thinking...

Most curly brands advertise "lightweight" products.

But does EVERYBODY want lightweight products?

Im looking for heavyweight products only bc...the way my curls are set up...my hair just looks better to me when its weighed down.

I use EcoStyler gels and i leave a good amount of conditioner in my hair under the gel to keep my curls elongated.

I tried Mixed Chicks leave in yesterday...and liked it...but took it back bc it was SO lightweight on my hair and id need a gel over it. I also can get similar results with just leaving in regular conditioner. I was at least expecting the "crunch" that so many curlies said they experienced...but it didnt happen.

Anyway...i would've kept it if it was a heavier product. Does anyone know of any HEAVY stylers i could try?
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2yrs 7 months post relaxer/2 years and 11 months natural

Cleanse: SM Moisture Retention or Suave Naturals shampoos
Co-Wash: Suave Naturals, L'Oreal EverCreme or EverCurl
RO/Detangler: Tresseme Naturals:nemo:, GVPCB
Leave-In: SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie, TN, GVPCB
Styler: EcoStyler, GF Pure Clean gel, KCCC

Just discovering my hair likes protein! :dontknow:

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Comments

  • russianprncssrussianprncss Posts: 450Registered Users
    I love the Shea Moisture curl smoothie. It's thick and creamy and does great things.
    2C/3A; very, very thick fine to medium hair; low porosity.

    Current Products:
    Co-Wash: As I Am Cleansing Co-Wash
    Conditioner: Shea Moisture Tahitian Masque, Aubrey Organics GPB, Shea Moisture
    Leave-In: Coffee Coco Curl Creme, Coffee Coco Curl Creme Lite
    Stylers: Mop Top Curl Custard, Shea Moisture Curl Custard[/FONT]

    "Forget not that the earth delights to feel your bare feet and the winds long to play with your hair." -Khalil Gibran
  • SmilingElephantSmilingElephant Posts: 666Registered Users
    I love that stuff too...but i always feel like i have to use a heavy gel over it

    Otherwise my hair becomes a balloon and wants to sail away lol! A day like today i wouldn't mind...but for work I'd like more weight.

    Im considering just going back to using cones. Ive actually already kinda started.

    Sent from my LG-LG730 using CurlTalk App
    2yrs 7 months post relaxer/2 years and 11 months natural

    Cleanse: SM Moisture Retention or Suave Naturals shampoos
    Co-Wash: Suave Naturals, L'Oreal EverCreme or EverCurl
    RO/Detangler: Tresseme Naturals:nemo:, GVPCB
    Leave-In: SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie, TN, GVPCB
    Styler: EcoStyler, GF Pure Clean gel, KCCC

    Just discovering my hair likes protein! :dontknow:

    :wav:
  • SereneCurlsSereneCurls Posts: 1,145Registered Users
    For me, a heavier product makes my hair look like normal hair. A light product makes it look like a huge expanding web around my head.
    3a, dense, fairly coarse, normal porosity and elasticity, just below shoulder
    Low poo: Giovanni 50 50
    Co-wash: aia, suave coconut, salon care
    R O: Tresume Naturals, gvpcb
    L I: KCKT, gvpcb
    Stylers: cjpp, re : coil, kccc, brhg
    Oils: coconut, argan
    Experimenting with: curls rock amplifier, pantene mousse
  • AngelaE8654AngelaE8654 Posts: 1,099Banned Users
    I second the Shea Moisture curl smoothie. That's actually TOO heavy for me but does define curls very, very well.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    I'm definitely a "curly" 2c. Sometimes curly and sometimes just wavy upper layer with a ringlety under layer. My hair has been thick and coarse since birth. Strawberry blonde in color that can and does change depending on the type and amount of light.


    All in all, I'm happy with my hair type but almost for sure think yours is prettier. :)
  • ashlyndmarieashlyndmarie Posts: 211Registered Users
    You can use shea moisture deep treatment masque as a styler. That's pretty heavy

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  • CurlyInTheFogCurlyInTheFog Posts: 876Registered Users
    Generally speaking, I think most curl creams are heavier. A lot of people like the Cantu curl cream, but I think it does have cones. Whether or not you want heavier products probably depends on hair and curl type. I have dense but fine hair, and just length tends to pull it down somewhat. I don't want it weighed down more. But if I had a tighter curl pattern I might want more weight.
    3a/b, F, normal porosity

    Suave conditioner, LAL gel
  • wavydazewavydaze Posts: 2,061Registered Users
    The SM line. You might still need a gel over it though for hold/definition.
    2bc/ f / ii. low porosity roots + normal-high porosity shaft where bleached. normal elasticity.

    Currently using:
    Poo: Earthbath Oatmeal & Aloe
    RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: UFD CM, CJ PP
    PT: CJ Repair Me

    :thumright: hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
    :angry8: guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
    Neutral on cones.

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  • testimony777testimony777 Posts: 237Registered Users
    The DevaCurl Heaven in Hair is very heavy. That would definitely give you some weight. It is their deep conditioner but I know that they use it as a leave-in/styler for some curlies in their shop.
    Hair Stats (CG since 3/31/12)
    Type: 3c/b; Density: M; Texture: F-M; Porosity: L-N

    Products
    Cleanser: DevaCurl Decadence No Poo
    Conditioner: DevaCurl Original One Condition
    Leave-in: DevaCurl B'Leave-in
    Stylers: DevaCurl Volumizing Frizz Free Foam, DevaCurl Beautiful Mess, DevaCurl Flexible Hold Hairspray
    Refresher: DevaCurl No Comb Detangling Spray
    Finisher: DevaCurl Shine Spray
  • rbbrbb Posts: 4,093Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    cj honey butta leave in (start with using VERY LITTLE!)

    3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity :-(
    washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
    leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
    styling: cj aloe fix gel, cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab.
    sealants - jane carter nourish & shine
  • artemis513artemis513 Posts: 666Registered Users
    I prefer lighter weight products because then I can use more of them. Heavier products just sit on top of my hair and in some cases makes it frizzy.

    I have tight coils and use Eco styler too. I noticed when I use lighter conditioners and just used more, got that "heavy" look I was trying to get from using the heavier products but the hair looks better, felt better and moves around. And I can use less gel. I am actually trying to move away from using Eco because it is hard to not be heavy handed (and I feel like I am addicted to it, but that's another thread, lol).

    So (for me) the elongated look actually comes my hair being super conditioned and using lighter products, not from heavier ones. Edit: I wanted to add something else. Having fine hair and such a tight curl pattern, it was tricky trying to figure out how to get my hair to "calm down". When I reduced my shampoo, increased protein treatments and increased my re-wetting frequency (I rinse/condition a ton), my hair began to have it's own "weight" to it.
    4a/3c, fine strands, low porosity, medium density
    Last relaxer: Jan 2010 - BC'd: 2/27/11
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  • CurlyInTheFogCurlyInTheFog Posts: 876Registered Users
    rbb wrote: »
    cj honey butta leave in (start with using VERY LITTLE!)

    How does the Honey Butta compare to CCCC in terms of heaviness/richness? I'm using LALSG with CCCC underneath (plus leave in). The LALSG is a bit drying so I need a little extra something under it, and I like the CCCC, but you know there might be something even better out there! :roll:
    3a/b, F, normal porosity

    Suave conditioner, LAL gel
  • rbbrbb Posts: 4,093Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    i also found the lalsg drying and stopped using it once marsha came out with cj pattern pusha.

    so, cccc vs honey butta leave in -- well, i love both and always have a jar of each. altho they both have glycerin, they are both great in low dews, i used both this winter. i guess it's in the formulation.

    cccc gives me more shine, less curl definition. honey butta really curls my hair. i also use leave in with both and use both sparingly -- a little goes a very long way.

    3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity :-(
    washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
    leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
    styling: cj aloe fix gel, cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab.
    sealants - jane carter nourish & shine
  • rbbrbb Posts: 4,093Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    and i usually don't need gel with honey butta. sometimes i do with cccc, other times not. i can apply the cjpp on dry hair, so oftentimes i wait to see how it dries.

    3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity :-(
    washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
    leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
    styling: cj aloe fix gel, cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab.
    sealants - jane carter nourish & shine
  • CurlyInTheFogCurlyInTheFog Posts: 876Registered Users
    Low dews aren't much of an issue here, or at least not very low dews. I don't think it really went below about 35 last summer, which was the first year I checked. Sounds like I'll have to try out the Butta, and retry PP. I got a sample of PP, but wasn't too thrilled with it then; however, I'm much surer of my technique now so I may have an entirely different opinion. Thanks!
    3a/b, F, normal porosity

    Suave conditioner, LAL gel