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Flaxseed gel fail. Anyone else get dry crusty straw hair?

So I made some flaxseed gel for the first time. I went of the recipe naptual85 gives, except I didn't have any essential oils to put in it. I did put a few drops of vitamin e oil. And just a touch of Epsom salt (I read that it makes curls form), also I did a little grapefruit seed oil because I read it help preserve it.

Anyway it dried my hair out majorly. So I made another batch with nothing but the flaxseed and a few drops of vitamin E oil. It still dried my hair like crazy. Also it kinda sat on top of my hair like glue, and was white and crusty. I thought the whole point of flaxseed gel is that it doesn't dry your hair out. Now idk if it's something I did, because I still had Eco styler in my hair. I just did a wash and go, and I was not planing on starting over from scratch. So I realize that could be why it didn't work well.

I know I didn't make it too thick, I actually thought it might be to thin, but looking at naptural85s video, it looks exactly like that, maybe even thiner. I'm thinking the crusty glue look was just because my hair wasn't wet (gel does the same thing if I put it on dry hair), but it was so runny I didn't think it would have a problem. It felt like water in my hair, but slimy.


So I'm thinking maybe just putting the flaxseed gel on top of the ecostyler is what made it super crispy and dry as straw. I'm wondering is it that I have to do it on fresh productless hair? Or do I do it over top a leave in or some form of moisturizer?

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  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    Most people use flaxseed as a definer over leave in conditioner AFAIK. Some then top with a hard hold gel, some use no other styler, some add xanthan gum to the flaxseed for extra hold/ curl boosting.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • BotticelliBritBotticelliBrit Posts: 2,075Registered Users
    Did you use a leave-in? I would advise using a leave-in before any styler. Also, I think you're right about already having eco styler on being the problem. If you're going to combo the two, I'd put the flaxseed on first and then eco-styler. But, to be honest, I'd try flaxseed on its own with some leave-in first, then you can see whether or not another styler on top is even necessary
    3B. Med porosity. Med thickness. Med density.

    LP: Shea Moisture (currently JBCO)
    Conditioner/CW: Jason Aloe Vera

    LI: Aunt Jackie's Curls & Coils Quench
    Refreshing: TRESemmé Naturals Aloe Vera & Avocado
    Gel: DevaCurl Ultra Defining Gel
    DC:
    Aunt Jackie's Soft & Sassy Super Duper Softening Conditioner
    Treatments: Coconut oil/Coconut milk

    UK curly. CG since Oct 2013.
    Growing my hair to WL when dry :thumright:
  • lolo918lolo918 Posts: 729Registered Users
    I just made my first batch of gel yesterday- I used it on hair that had a conditioner/aloe vera gel mix but I love the effect. My curls have held up, but they don't exactly feel the best- I'm not sure if that is because I used too much aloe vera gel initially or the added flaxseed.

    I agree with BotticelliBrit though, that you might want to apply the flaxseed gel over the leave-in without the other gel to see if you need it. When you have freshly washed hair, do you combine your products before applying or do you layer them? This might make a big difference also- at least it does for my hair. Iagirl has a curl cream that you may want to try: Science-y Hair Blog: What's Cooking This Week (8-13-11). It combines strong hold hair gel, conditioner, flaxseed gel, and optional honey for more hold. She also has another one with the gel, and coconut oil, with two variations. Science-y Hair Blog: What's Cookin': Super Smooth Flax Curl Cream

    I also get the same dry results when I use oils on my hair. I didn't add any oil at all to my batch because of this. When oils are too high on store bought products my hair behaves that way- I don't know how this might affect how long my gel will last though. I was contemplating using something like citric acid as a preservative instead of oils, but I didn't want to run out to the store just to add it this time. You can find it in the home canning section of most stores that I've seen it in.
    3C/4A, fine texture, low-medium density, and low porosity
    CG since November 2013.

    Pre-Poo: infrequent now, Coconut Oil overnight
    Shampoo: Curls unleashed/for occasional sulfate wash when needed, everlasting sunshine.
    Conditioner: Suave Naturals Everlasting Sunshine and GVP's conditioning balm.
    Styler: iagirl's flaxseed curl cream or gelatin gel/conditioner mix. <3
    PT: iagirl's gelatin treatment 3-4 times a month, with conditioner/honey/avj
  • Morgan_AdcockMorgan_Adcock Posts: 2,573Registered Users
    I think the problem was applying the FSG over EcoStyler. I just use it over my leave in.

    That said, there are a couple of points you might want to consider. The only reason to add essential oil(s) is aroma; so, if you don't have them, just leave them out. It's grapefruit seed _extract_, not oil which is generally used in FSG, and it's meant to be a (natural) preservative.

    If you make those changes, and still find that your hair is dry after using FSG, try leaving out the pinch of epsom salts.
    Peace,
    Morgan

    Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
    CGing since July 2008
  • curltastic333curltastic333 Posts: 3Registered Users
    What's the aloe vera gel do? I make my own FSG and have never heard of anyone adding aloe. Interesting!
  • lolo918lolo918 Posts: 729Registered Users
    What's the aloe vera gel do? I make my own FSG and have never heard of anyone adding aloe. Interesting!

    The first time with my flaxseed gel was bc it was an old wash and go- too much aloe gel and I can't scrunch out the crunch.
    I redid my hair Saturday using the curl cream recipe with aloe gel, honey, flaxseed gel, and some Aussie Moist conditioner. I decided to put in finger coils. I LOVE the result- they didn't shrink as much as they have before first. Second, they are really soft, shiny, and have held up great even though I keep forgetting to put my scarf on before bed. Then again, my hair does not tolerate layering products on very well, it prefers one product only or mixing them all together then applying no matter what it is.


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    3C/4A, fine texture, low-medium density, and low porosity
    CG since November 2013.

    Pre-Poo: infrequent now, Coconut Oil overnight
    Shampoo: Curls unleashed/for occasional sulfate wash when needed, everlasting sunshine.
    Conditioner: Suave Naturals Everlasting Sunshine and GVP's conditioning balm.
    Styler: iagirl's flaxseed curl cream or gelatin gel/conditioner mix. <3
    PT: iagirl's gelatin treatment 3-4 times a month, with conditioner/honey/avj
  • UtopianonawaUtopianonawa Posts: 75Registered Users
    I think the problem was applying the FSG over EcoStyler. I just use it over my leave in.

    That said, there are a couple of points you might want to consider. The only reason to add essential oil(s) is aroma; so, if you don't have them, just leave them out. It's grapefruit seed _extract_, not oil which is generally used in FSG, and it's meant to be a (natural) preservative.

    If you make those changes, and still find that your hair is dry after using FSG, try leaving out the pinch of epsom salts.



    Sorry about that, I was sleepy. I totally meant extract. That's what I used. I guess I just had oil on the brain
  • UtopianonawaUtopianonawa Posts: 75Registered Users
    I tried it again on my hair with just a leave in. I think I love it. It makes my hair curl like nothing else has. Also it doesn't seem to be as dry but I can't say for sure yet because it's not completely dry yet. I do have a lot of frizz though. I think I just need to experiment with the ingredients.

    So far the flaxseed gel is the only thing that's made my heat damaged hair curl
  • DawnFractalDawnFractal Posts: 1Registered Users
    I made it for the first time too, with similar results: straw hair that you couldn't crunch out. I used flaxseeds, EOs, honey and Vitamin E to preserve. I've just made my second batch without the honey (and it's the second time round for these flaxseeds) so I'll see if it makes a difference. If not, it looks like I'll be going back to the store to find some curly friendly gel.
  • BeinDebBeinDeb Posts: 452Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    If you're trying flaxseed gel for the first time, I would recommend using ONLY flaxseed. Everyone's hair reacts differently to various ingredients. If you start out with just flaxseed, then you will know what if any culprit your hair is reacting badly to. Flaxseeds are very inexpensive, and the gel is very easy to make. If your hair responds favorably, then try adding one of the "extras" in the next batch. As with any gel, a leave-in underneath is a good idea.
  • lailankrlailankr Posts: 6Registered Users
    I have a homemade flaxseed gel and I haven't noticed anything about it. It conditions my hair perfectly. Maybe it's about the texture of your hair.
  • CaramelHazelnutCaramelHazelnut Posts: 1Registered Users
    You are not alone, it has done the same thing to me. My hair turns out dry and crunchy every time. I have tried the flaxseed gel on wet hair, damp hair, dry hair...any which way, its always been on clean hair. I have tried it directly on hair after conditioning with no product and after applying my Kinky Kurly leave-in. The same result EVERY TIME. I have made about 4 batches using the exact recipe of 1/4 cup of flaxseeds and 2 cups of water. I increased the water once and added a little jojoba oil. Same thing. My hair ended up crunchy and dry and had a white film crust on my hair in multiple places. I gave up on flaxseed gel, and I'm so sad about it. I have read everything I could find and tried it every which way. My hair just doesn't respond like others. I thought I was putting too much on, but it did the same thing when I only used a little. So I went back to what my hair responds well to...curl enhancer activator gel and top it with Xtreme Welting (good for protein sensitive hair) or Eco Styler with Argan oil. My curls turn out defined and have a good hold without the hard crunch and is not dry. If I am concerned that I may have added more holding gel than activator gel, I will add jojoba oil on top once it is near dry.

    I have no clue why this flaxseed gel is not working for me like others, but my hair does not seem to like a lot of things others rave about and have great results with. I do hope to figure this out because I would LOVE to be able to use the flaxseed gel since I do more wash n go's than anything else.

    3C/4A with a some 4B's thrown in the middle: fine texture, high density, low porosity
    CG since July 2011.

    Pre-Poo: Tea Tree Tingle Conditioner, baking soda, blackstrap molasses, olive oil, filtered water (only done on days before I clarify with clay mix)
    Shampoo/Clarifier (once a week): Rhassoul Clay mix (with filtered water and Jojoba Oil)
    Cowash(2-3x a week): Trader Joes Tea Tree Tingle, Giovanni Smooth as Silk, Aussie Moist
    Conditioner: Giovanni Smooth as Silk, Aussie Moist, Aussie 3 minute Miracle
    Styler: (WNG) Ampro Curl Enhancer, Xtreme Gel wet line
    ***I sit under a steamer at least once a week when I deep condition, sometime 2-3 times when I condition after cowashing if I can fit it in***
  • BLACKROSE80BLACKROSE80 Posts: 1Registered Users
    I also made the gel for the first time and applied it to the hair after LOC but it was dry and white. The next day I washed my hair to remove all the products because I thought I aws like that because of the leave-in, coconut oil and the cream, I used it on clean hair and the same thing happened: white and dry. What will I have done wrong in making the gel? I followed all the instructions...