Bogus hair health claims and ridiculous products.

aspenaspen Posts: 154Registered Users Curl Neophyte
A thread for hair tools and products that make you scratch your head, I don't remember seeing a thread like this but feel free to correct me if there is one already :)

I was walking through the mall the other day and saw one of those straightening iron hair kiosks, but this one wasn't just obnoxious- it was straight out lying and the girl working at the booth was either very ignorant or a great liar.

She claimed that even if you don't wear your hair straight flat-ironing your hair once a week with their magical mineral irons made your hair healthier, less frizzy and STRONGER. They were also selling them with some kind of 'miracle mist' that is supposedly activated by the crystals/mineral of the flat iron to add vitamins and health to your hair via hear.

They had 'normal' straighteners at their booth for half the price, and the miracle mist was like $40 for a tiny bottle. No ingredients listed, of course.
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  • CGSince2002CGSince2002 Posts: 1,073Banned Users
    I had not even heard there were hair straightening kiosks at malls... but then I don't go to malls very much anymore...

    Yeah, those claims are bogus, there's no way that treating your hair with heat regularly is going to make anyone's hair healthy, no matter what you put on the hair (especially some unknown mist...). If it were a living structure... maybe, but all the health hair is ever going to have is after it grows out of the follicle, after that if damaged the best we can hope for is temporary "repair" and the appearance of health.
    Joined Curltalk 1st time in early '02 shortly after starting CG. I'm a non-practicing Cosmetologist.
    Hair: color-treated, mostly 3A.
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    RO: SpaHaus Salon w/OO, VO5 Shea Cashmere, W.R. Trop. Coconut, Daily Defense Moisturizing & others.
    LI: Beautiful Curls w/Shea Butter & C.O., Hollywood Beauty OO Creme, VO5 K&L, Aveda Be Curly Curl Enhancer.
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  • chupiechupie Posts: 5,280Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Wow. I never heard offs hair straightening kiosk either.
    2a medium porous, You can see my wavy tutorials here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLy8bclCLgER5N_uVYSYZNxhBHSXAW40OQ and my wavy blog is The Wavy Nation http://wavynation.wordpress.com
  • dixygirldixygirl Posts: 279Banned Users
    Personally, my hair looks fried when it is dried naturally curly and healthy when it is dried in a straight configuration provided I use no heat for both effects. So I guess everyone is different. But I agree that heat does not make the hair healthy. I always use no heat smoothing techniques.
    3b/c, 2c at nape, fine, norm-hi porosity, low density, biracial, BSL
    Conditioner:Kanechom, Silicon Mix. Hello Hydration. ApHogee 2min
    Co-Wash: $ store cond
    Prepoo: combinations of:yogurt, liquid aminos, honey,mustard oil, egg,red palm oil,coconut milk
    Leave in Products: Silicon Mix Proteina de Perla LI, coconut milk, coconut oil, olive oil, or mustard oil
    Naturally curly color treated
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  • CGSince2002CGSince2002 Posts: 1,073Banned Users
    Perhaps you just haven't found the right technique and/or products to manage your curly hair...

    And, may I ask what is your no-heat straightening technique? Two that I know would qualify are roller-setting and wrapping, although for speed's sake some heat from sitting under a bonnet hair dryer is better and not necessarily damaging. But, regardless of what it is, just as one learns something like that, one can learn an entirely different routine for healthy-looking curly hair, I am sure the thousands of people that have come and gone through this site over the years would agree with that...
    Joined Curltalk 1st time in early '02 shortly after starting CG. I'm a non-practicing Cosmetologist.
    Hair: color-treated, mostly 3A.
    CO-wash: VO5 K&L
    RO: SpaHaus Salon w/OO, VO5 Shea Cashmere, W.R. Trop. Coconut, Daily Defense Moisturizing & others.
    LI: Beautiful Curls w/Shea Butter & C.O., Hollywood Beauty OO Creme, VO5 K&L, Aveda Be Curly Curl Enhancer.
    Gels: LAL Wet Look, ORS Lock & Twist.
    Oils: Jojoba, EVCO & Africa's Best Ultimate Herbal Oil

  • SereneCurlsSereneCurls Posts: 1,145Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Oh yeah, I've come across these kiosks selling straighteners all the time. Just as bad as their ridiculous health claims are their other sales tactics. If your hair has even a hint of a wave to it, they'll come rushing up to you offering to work their scary magic on your hair right there and then. I've even had a couple of them actually put their hands on my hair before I managed to get rid of them.
    3a, dense, fairly coarse, normal porosity and elasticity, just below shoulder
    Low poo: Giovanni 50 50
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    Experimenting with: curls rock amplifier, pantene mousse
  • dixygirldixygirl Posts: 279Banned Users
    Perhaps you just haven't found the right technique and/or products to manage your curly hair...

    And, may I ask what is your no-heat straightening technique? Two that I know would qualify are roller-setting and wrapping, although for speed's sake some heat from sitting under a bonnet hair dryer is better and not necessarily damaging. But, regardless of what it is, just as one learns something like that, one can learn an entirely different routine for healthy-looking curly hair, I am sure the thousands of people that have come and gone through this site over the years would agree with that...
    I usually dry in a top knot bun to smooth my 3bs to a loose wave, not bone straight. I LIKE that a lot and it works for me.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GRzAcnhS53c
    Sometimes, I may wrap overnight. I never do a roller wrap b/c I think the roller step is unnecessary unless you're type 4 or have really unruly, thick hair.
    It actually found a good product to manage my curls. It's just that I don't like them on me bc my face looks too big with curly hair this length in my opinion. I like how my face looks better with hair this length if the hair is smoother. I think I would have ventured to try curly hair if the hair around my face was longer or if my face was narrower. So when my hair gets longer and will cover half of my mug even curly then maybe I will wear it curly sometimes lol. Just a personal style preference
    3b/c, 2c at nape, fine, norm-hi porosity, low density, biracial, BSL
    Conditioner:Kanechom, Silicon Mix. Hello Hydration. ApHogee 2min
    Co-Wash: $ store cond
    Prepoo: combinations of:yogurt, liquid aminos, honey,mustard oil, egg,red palm oil,coconut milk
    Leave in Products: Silicon Mix Proteina de Perla LI, coconut milk, coconut oil, olive oil, or mustard oil
    Naturally curly color treated
    Fan of www.tightlycurly.com "Curly Like Me"
  • CGSince2002CGSince2002 Posts: 1,073Banned Users
    Ok... but you did say first that drying it naturally it looked dry...

    I've done the top knot too for a wavy look, I get bored with the same look all the time.
    :icon_smile:
    Joined Curltalk 1st time in early '02 shortly after starting CG. I'm a non-practicing Cosmetologist.
    Hair: color-treated, mostly 3A.
    CO-wash: VO5 K&L
    RO: SpaHaus Salon w/OO, VO5 Shea Cashmere, W.R. Trop. Coconut, Daily Defense Moisturizing & others.
    LI: Beautiful Curls w/Shea Butter & C.O., Hollywood Beauty OO Creme, VO5 K&L, Aveda Be Curly Curl Enhancer.
    Gels: LAL Wet Look, ORS Lock & Twist.
    Oils: Jojoba, EVCO & Africa's Best Ultimate Herbal Oil

  • Fifi.GFifi.G Posts: 15,490Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Hahaha! I would not be able to stop laughing if I heard that.

    I am still perplexed by spray on hair.

    PS- Putting my hair in a bun works fairly well on my hair. It takes it to a subtle wave. I don't do it as an intentional thing. When August rolls around I end up throwing my hair up after a shower quite often, and that is the result.
    When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • BotticelliBritBotticelliBrit Posts: 2,075Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    LOL how ridiculous. Those kind of stalls always make me laugh. There was actually a similar one at Westfield the other day when I went shopping, claiming the straighteners would help moisturise my hair or some nonsense :/

    Another great one is those Wet2Straight straighteners I used to use back in the day(I'll never stop b*tching about those things now haha). They basically straightened your hair from wet, eliminating the use of a blowdryer and claimed there was 'no need for alarm when a hissing sound emitted during straightening as this is just the steam escaping'. Of course, it couldn't possibly be my hair FRYING.

    They also claimed to 'protect your hair from over-drying as the steam hydration therapy. This ensures that the right amount of moisture is locked in, keeping your hair healthy' and that they 'protect your hair from the thermal stress of heat styling'. Bwhahahaha.
    3B. Med porosity. Med thickness. Med density.

    LP: Shea Moisture (currently JBCO)
    Conditioner/CW: Jason Aloe Vera

    LI: Aunt Jackie's Curls & Coils Quench
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    Gel: DevaCurl Ultra Defining Gel
    DC:
    Aunt Jackie's Soft & Sassy Super Duper Softening Conditioner
    Treatments: Coconut oil/Coconut milk

    UK curly. CG since Oct 2013.
    Growing my hair to WL when dry :thumright:
  • claudine191claudine191 Posts: 8,221Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Oh yeah, I've come across these kiosks selling straighteners all the time. Just as bad as their ridiculous health claims are their other sales tactics. If your hair has even a hint of a wave to it, they'll come rushing up to you offering to work their scary magic on your hair right there and then. I've even had a couple of them actually put their hands on my hair before I managed to get rid of them.

    Ew and OMG!
  • SpiralliSpiralli Posts: 3,683Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    dixygirl wrote: »
    I always use no heat smoothing techniques.
    Would love to know what techniques you use that work for you.
    Location: Texas
    Type: 3b/3c (i), below shoulder length.
    CO wash: A-O GPB LYY, Desert Essence Coconut, Oribe Silverati
    Leave-ins: Curl Junkie Beauti-Curls, KCKT, cno overnight
    Styling: BRHG, MGA Sculpting Gel, A-O Mandarin Magic Gel, LOTD AVG, LALSG, CJ Pattern Pusha
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  • BotticelliBritBotticelliBrit Posts: 2,075Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Spiralli wrote: »
    Would love to know what techniques you use that work for you.

    Beautyklove on Youtube has great & inventive heat-free styling / straightening routines, if that's what you're looking for :)
    3B. Med porosity. Med thickness. Med density.

    LP: Shea Moisture (currently JBCO)
    Conditioner/CW: Jason Aloe Vera

    LI: Aunt Jackie's Curls & Coils Quench
    Refreshing: TRESemmé Naturals Aloe Vera & Avocado
    Gel: DevaCurl Ultra Defining Gel
    DC:
    Aunt Jackie's Soft & Sassy Super Duper Softening Conditioner
    Treatments: Coconut oil/Coconut milk

    UK curly. CG since Oct 2013.
    Growing my hair to WL when dry :thumright:
  • Morgan_AdcockMorgan_Adcock Posts: 2,573Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    My hair must look impossible to straighten. When I see those kiosks, the attendants who glance my way quickly look somewhere else. You can see their eyes jump they're so determined not to see me.
    Peace,
    Morgan

    Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
    CGing since July 2008
  • curlicious13curlicious13 Posts: 1,632Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I've seen those kiosks in the mall and bought 2. I stopped using them when I had a MAJOR burn on my scalp from pressing my hair. The pint sized flat it burned the mess out of my scalp. That's when I said never again will I straighten my hair. I'm completely heatless now. I still use a hooded dryer, but only on a it's coolest setting to dry my hair after styling.
  • eveumeveum Posts: 744Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Yeah I've seen them, and hair curling stands too. I have no idea why anyone would want to interrupt their shopping to have their hair styled by a stranger in the middle of a busy shopping mall with people walking past staring. Just me?

    Low Shampoo: Aveda Be Curly Shampoo
    Conditioner: Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture/ Perfectly Undone
    Treatments: SM Black Castor Oil Masque/ Packet Gelatine
    Leave in: Redken Diamond Oil Conditioner
    Styling: AG Recoil Curl Activator/V05 Mega Hold/Cornstarch
    Refresh: Redken Fresh Curls Curl Boost


    Between Waist and Hip Length (stretched), 2C with 2B roots
  • claudine191claudine191 Posts: 8,221Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    No, I agree. It's very gauche.
  • gardencurlsgardencurls Posts: 573Registered Users
    Ugh! Those kiosks always make me feel so self-conscious. I cannot tell you how many times the kiosk "stylists" walk right up to me and offer to straighten "that" hair; or to "fix up" my hairstyle...I get flashbacks of being in 7th grade, when I slept with heavy encyclopedias on my wet hair in order to "straighten" it. (It didn't work).

    I know these kiosk pseudo-stylists are just doing their jobs, of course, but, honestly, whose idea was it to train them to target the people with the curliest hair?

    It seems like it never occurs to some stylists that there are people who wear their hair curly on purpose?

    Am I the only one who sees steam and gets CHILLS? I associate steam with my worst hair nightmares. Adding steam to my hair is like getting 4" cut off while turning my hair into tension springs.
    3b/c, Coarse, Low Porosity, Desert Climate
    CG since August 2011/Occasionally Minimally Modified since 2013
    Favorites: Beautiful Nutrition Cocoa Curl Cleansing Conditioner, Beautiful Nutrition Cocoa Curl High Definition Moisture Gel, Beautiful Nutrition UltraLight Lime Jel Control Serum, Beautiful Nutrition Lemon Rinse Clarifying Treatment

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