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Hydrolyzed Keratin - Best way to use it?

aplocatelliaplocatelli Posts: 16Registered Users
What is the best way to use Hydrolyzed Keratin?

I learned that my hair is really protein craving, it stretches and stretches like elastic, although I've been doing a weekly PT with Hydrolyzed Keratin.

I mix 20 ml water + 10 ml keratin and spray it in my clean washed hair (I low poo). Leave it for 10 min then apply a hair mask (Deva Curl Heaven in Hair), leave it for another 20 min and then rinse it all out.

Is this the best way of doing it? It just doesn't seem to be working... I know I can use only the keratin and then blow dry my hair, but I just don't want to blow fry! Help me!!!

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  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    See the recipes of Sciencey Hairblog for gelatin (hydrolysed collagen). There should be plenty of overlap: the author has research effect of pH, temperature and time.

    Blow drying isn't harmful if done occasionally and done right, the warmth actually increases bonding and penetration. You don't keep the hot tool concentrated on one spot, don't use a brush, don't need to go to bone dry. Can use a diffuser or hood.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • aplocatelliaplocatelli Posts: 16Registered Users
    My hair didn't like the gelatin PT, but it loves Keratin.

    I like the idea of using a diffuser! I'm gonna try it, cause I don't think blow drying once a week is a good idea... And I need a weekly PT.
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    Just sub keratin for gelatin in the recipe.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • wavydazewavydaze Posts: 2,061Registered Users
    What is the best way to use Hydrolyzed Keratin?

    I learned that my hair is really protein craving, it stretches and stretches like elastic, although I've been doing a weekly PT with Hydrolyzed Keratin.

    I mix 20 ml water + 10 ml keratin and spray it in my clean washed hair (I low poo). Leave it for 10 min then apply a hair mask (Deva Curl Heaven in Hair), leave it for another 20 min and then rinse it all out.

    Is this the best way of doing it? It just doesn't seem to be working... I know I can use only the keratin and then blow dry my hair, but I just don't want to blow fry! Help me!!!

    If your hair doesn't like collagen I would recommend getting CJ Repair Me which is an excellent PT (keratin).

    I see two possible problems. 1. Your keratin-water ratio may be too weak. 2. You're undoing what the PT is doing with the Heaven in Hair. Not everyone needs to DT after a PT. Many fine-haired curlies do not. I never DT after a PT.
    2bc/ f / ii. low porosity roots + normal-high porosity shaft where bleached. normal elasticity.

    Currently using:
    Poo: Earthbath Oatmeal & Aloe
    RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: UFD CM, CJ PP
    PT: CJ Repair Me

    :thumright: hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
    :angry8: guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
    Neutral on cones.

    iherb discount code: CFN646
  • SamanthascurlzSamanthascurlz Posts: 1,082Registered Users
    I agree wavydaze, I also do not DT after a PT. I have fine hair as well.
    CG, High Porosity, Fine, Low Density, Medium Elasticity
    Suave, V05, GF Go clean gel, ACV rinses, CO, and Gelatine PT.
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  • WhisperesWhisperes Posts: 28Registered Users
    I third what wavydazy says. A PT is enough for my fine, low-porosity hair. I don't need a DT afterwards either. In fact-- DTing after my PT undoes what my PT did for my hair, so that might indeed be where your problem lies.

    I've never done this myself, but if you insist on your DT, you can even swap your routine around and do the DT first to see if that makes a difference? :)
    xox Marieke // Whisperes

    2c (on top) & 3b high density, low porosity, fine, protein craving curls

    Pre-poo & sealant: HPO Happy Scalp, Extra Virgin Coconut Oil
    Co-wash: Oyin Handmade Honey Hemp Conditioner
    Protein Treatment & Deep Conditioner: CJ Repair Me!, Spiral Solutions Protein Treatment
    Rinse-out: CJ Beauticurls Strengthening Conditioner
    Detangler: KCKT
    Styling: KCSS, Mop Top Curly Custard
  • aplocatelliaplocatelli Posts: 16Registered Users
    I'm going to try the PT without the DT, I think it will work :)
  • SamanthascurlzSamanthascurlz Posts: 1,082Registered Users
    Please let us know your comparisons!

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    CG, High Porosity, Fine, Low Density, Medium Elasticity
    Suave, V05, GF Go clean gel, ACV rinses, CO, and Gelatine PT.
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  • BestofLuckBestofLuck Posts: 1Registered Users
    HAIR REPAIR SPRAY – DIY

    01/08/2013
    Hello Everyone! 😀
    Today I am going to show you my new little creation!
    As you already know I don’t have quite much time on hand anymore so it will be, once again, a very simple (but, trust me, effective! 😀 ) recipe!

    It is a Hair Spray for damaged hair.
    I have thin hair and not really damaged (at the end of the post I will add some ideas on how to change the recipe according to different types of hair) but, once in a while, I love to give them something like a Hair “Energy-drink” so to say! 😀

    [WARNING] I have to warn you though: this recipe will smell bad (it’s a concentrate of proteins, mind you, and they do smell awful!) and, if you use too much of it, it is also going to make your hair a bit sticky (still thanks to the amount of proteins! 😀 ).
    You are warned!!! 😀

    [You can skip this] Hairs are dead proteins hanging from our head. We cannot really “nourish” them BUT what we can do is apply on them some proteins (keratin works best, of course, since it is what our hair is made of) with the hope they will “join the hair” in the points where the chain is a little bit broken/damaged eventually making our hair look all shiny and restored once again! 😉 .


    [If you have just started and don’t know where to buy ingredients, you might want to check this post HERE]

    THE RECIPE: [as always my recipe is in %]

    Water to 100 Explanation of this HERE
    Glycerin – 1 (glycerin is not needed on hair cause it actually makes them more “heavy” looking, so we add only a tiny tiny amount which is needed for the hair spray to not dry up)
    Hydrolized Keratin – 10 (I had the hydrolized one which means that it was keratin already floating in water. If you have the powder one, you should add between 0.5 to 1 gr of it to the recipe! 😉 – NOTICE THAT KERATIN COULD BE CLOSE TO THE ONLY INGREDIENT NEEDED IN THIS HAIR SPRAY BECAUSE IT IS THE ONE AND ONLY INGREDIENT NEEDED IN THIS HAIR SPRAY BECAUSE IT IS THE ONE AND TRULY ESSENTIAL ONE. IF YOU DON'T HAVE ALL THE OTHER INGREDIENTS I AM ADDING HERE, DON'T WORRY AND DO WITHOUT!)
    Wheat Protein Powder – 0.5
    L-Cisteine Powder – 0.5
    Epsom Salts – 1 (epsom salts help to keep the volume of the hair. Since I have thin and long hair, this is a good ingredient for me. Of course if you don’t need any volume, you can omit them! 😉 )
    D-Panthenol – 3 (it is Vitamin B 5)
    Poliquaternium 7 – 1 (this is a conditioner for hair: since proteins make the hair feel very strong and sometimes a bit sticky, I decided to add a drop of conditioner! It is not needed so don’t worry if you don’t have this ingredient)
    Water soluble Preservative – at the concentration needed of your specific preservative (this is important! There are a bunch of eco-friendly preservatives also, so you have no excuse 😉 ).
    Citric Acid to reach pH 4.5

    How to:
    Just mix in a beaker all the ingredients except for water and citric acid.

    It will be opaque like this if you added some protein powder (it will look more clear if you didn’t add them and you directly used hydrolized proteins).

    Eventually add the water and you will see it becomes more clear.

    It is super simple and you are almost done! 😀
    Just check the pH and add little by little some citric acid until you reach 4.5 pH!

    Now you have a sticky liquid which smells awful! 😀

    What you can do is to solubilize (using a strong surfactant or, if you have it, a proper solubilizer) some fragrance oil and, then, add it to the mixture. I have found that the best smell to cover the awful protein smell is something citrusy and spicy at the same time [needless to say: this is just my taste. You can do as you like! 😀 ].
    However, if you are a lazy-butt like me, you can just pour few drops of fragrance oil in the hair spray (obviously it will float on the surface!) and shake it very well before using it 😀 it works as well! 😀

    How to change the recipe:

    STICKY HAIR: if you don’t like the effect of this hair spray (which definitely repairs, but also can leave the hair a bit sticky), you can apply a lot of spray one hour or half an hour before you decide to wash them (or apply it the night before if you have shower in the morning). Obviously it works more the more it stays applied 😉

    DRY HAIR: If you have already dry hair, proteins can make your hair feel even more dry: mix some of the hair spray with your hair mask before doing shampoo and keep it applied at least for half an hour.

    LONG, EASILY TANGLED HAIR: If you have long hair the Polyquaternium 7 is quite an essential ingredient in keeping your hair detangled. However, if you don’t have this ingredient, you can mix some of the Spray with a leave-in hair conditioner of your choice. Will work very well 😉

    I hope I came up with all the substitutions possible.
    Let me know what you think! 😀

    Have a great day!!!

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    What is the best way to use Hydrolyzed Keratin?

    I learned that my hair is really protein craving, it stretches and stretches like elastic, although I've been doing a weekly PT with Hydrolyzed Keratin.

    I mix 20 ml water + 10 ml keratin and spray it in my clean washed hair (I low poo). Leave it for 10 min then apply a hair mask (Deva Curl Heaven in Hair), leave it for another 20 min and then rinse it all out.

    Is this the best way of doing it? It just doesn't seem to be working... I know I can use only the keratin and then blow dry my hair, but I just don't want to blow fry! Help me!!!