Powdered milk in pre-poo treatments?

HtBlack

I'm a member of different hair forums - lol obsessed - and in one I read today all girls raving about adding powdered milk to their pre-poo treatment, a 1:1 proportion with conditioner. They all say it makes their hair thicker (I suppose FEEL thicker, of course, but I'm quoting so yeah), shiny and great in general after just a few uses.

What are your thoughts? Have any of you tried this? I'm about to consider getting some powdered milk to do it myself, but I wanted some more opinions before I do...

sixelamy

I add powdered goat milk to my soap bars, and oh man does it ever give a silky feeling to my skin! I assume it would be great for hair as well, especially if you need some protein. I hear it also might help hair loss and growth as well.

HtBlack

that's interesting! I never tried making my own soap but it always sounded fun.
I love protein, that's exactly why I was asking I wouldn't mind a help with both of those...

Thanks for telling me!

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Firefox7275

Could be the sugars (lactose) in the milk, the protein is not hydrolysed so should not b substantive.

HtBlack

Yeah, you nailed my doubt exactly. I was wondering if that would make a difference and if that meant the whole thing was a bit of a placebo effect. I'm still curious to try, but yeah... I was looking for a lazy PT alternative because I'm so lazy and crumbling gelatin sheets takes me forever. :c

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Firefox7275

Maybe purchase a ready made product containing hydrolysed protein.

HtBlack

We don't really have things like protein fillers here, or store brand PT. It's mostly a make-it-yourself-or-die kind of thing. -_-

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Firefox7275

There should be hydrolysed protein rich conditioners worldwide, from one of the many L'Oreal brands if nobody else. It really is not a rare ingredient.

HtBlack

Ugh late reply, sorry!

I do use the schwarzkopf ultimate volume one you use also, but sometimes I need a stronger dose, you know? XD a deep treatment. And l'oreal is usually packed with lots of cones and awful stuff aren't they? I hadn't even considered them because of that fact...

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Firefox7275

Many of the L'Oreal products are coney, there are some without and some with only water soluble silicones or amodimethicone which resists building up.

The Gliss ultimate volume isn't a hardcore drying type treatment obviously but I found it very protein rich. Hydrolysed collagen and keratin are the third and sixth ingredients respectively. The fifth ingredient (cocodimonium hydroxypropyl ...) is a protein modified to be HIGHLY substantive or very 'sticky'. So three of the first six ingredients are hydrolysed proteins which is more than many commercial treatments.

If you harnessed time and heat you should be able to get the best out if it as an intensive treatment. If its not as good as the DIY gelatin its possible that part of the benefit is in something else you are adding such as oils (Gliss is oil free).

L'Oreal often use a similarly modified wheat protein (hydroxypropyltrimonium ...) in their conditioners but I haven't found the ones I have tried to be anywhere near as potent as the Gliss.

HTH.

Samanthascurlz

Can you make your own pt? The gelatin one that firefox mentioned? If so, the science-y hair blog has a way to make your own protein filler by using the knox gelatin that is used for the gelatin pt.

1 packet knox and 1/2 cup distilled water.
Mix gelatin and water
Pop in microwave for 30 seconds
Refigerate
mix with conditioner

It is mentioned to have a somewhat equal ratio so for 2 teaspoons conditioner, use 2 teaspoons knox.

Science-y Hair Blog: My Hair Can't Seem To Get Enough Protein!

HtBlack

Firefox, you are right. The gliss is pretty strong, and I'm probably just too used to having lots of products and to each having a different purpose I guess. It's reasonable to use the same for a PT if I've liked it so far.

I will try using it as an intensive treatment! I'll add heat too. (:

And Samantha, I do that pretty much weekly, but since we only have gelatin sheets here I was saying how I hate crumbling them because it takes so long. XD also it's so hard it cuts my skin sometimes when I break the sheets in small shards, and was looking for a lazier good alternative, simply. I read people raving about powdered milk for hair but was a bit puzzled so came to ask here.

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Firefox7275

You inspired me to crack out the Gliss again last hair wash and I had the best hair day in many months! Did a couple other things differently, went closer to a old routine.

Shame someone poured cider on my head, had to pick apart a massive mat afterwards.

HtBlack

:c who dared?

I've been using it nonstop ever since I found it in a store! As a LI, not a RO simply because I don't want to finish it too quick. XD and I use a cheaper RO because I use a lot to make sure I cleanse well.
But yeah, since I use it more often, I think my hair is much happier. (: almost two months ago now, so winter didn't make me hate it. Can't wait to try it in warmer weather!

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Firefox7275

Ugh, ex boyfriend. Note to self: don't heatedly discuss a past alcohol fuelled disagreement when you are both drinking.

HtBlack

Ouch, that's too bad.

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Samanthascurlz

HtBlack wrote: »

And Samantha, I do that pretty much weekly, but since we only have gelatin sheets here I was saying how I hate crumbling them because it takes so long. XD also it's so hard it cuts my skin sometimes when I break the sheets in small shards, and was looking for a lazier good alternative, simply. I read people raving about powdered milk for hair but was a bit puzzled so came to ask here.

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Oh ok. Darn! I wish I could be more of a help. :-/

HtBlack

Naaah, it's okay! (:

I might try doing some bantu knots today after I wash but I'm afraid they'll turn out bad because my curl pattern isn't the strongest... >.>

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