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Cutting your own hair...

Because I'm pretty desperate here. No hairdresser seems to know what a "curly cut" is in my area and I can't travel too far... also, budget. :/ I just got almost every damage cut out of my hair, so I'd want to avoid a disaster by going to some idiot hairdresser I don't know or trust.

My problem is: I'm at shoulder length, an inch more, and I have pretty much no layers at all. All my curls seem to be near the bottom of my hair and my top doesn't curl as much, and I think it's because my hair isn't layered. What I mean is, with it being all the same length my canopy strands and the underlayer tend to clump together, or even if they don't clump they make curls with the same pattern, so I don't have root curl the further up I go towards the canopy. Also, my left side is curlier than the left side and I think that's because probably, last time I got them cut, that side was layered a bit more. It definitely has shorter strands on the canopy and they are curlier from the base, and happier.
Does that make sense to you?

So...layers! I've done it before, successfully, but I really have no technique and if you know any good tutorial or suggestion, I'd appreciate it! I'll cut wet, because curls never behave the same twice on my head; also, I'll really take it slow and cut a bit at a time so I don't cut too much, but I need suggestions on how to divide layers when I'm cutting and so on.

Any help would be great. :D
A 2C, wishfully thinking of being 3a. Sometimes I get there. CG since October 2013, Eurocurly (just for a few months more!), completely low-porosity now. SBL, wanting elbow length.

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  • chupiechupie Posts: 5,270Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Look up waterlily716 on YouTube. She has a good hair cutting video.
  • DatKoala93DatKoala93 Posts: 2Registered Users
    I just cut my hair for the first time today. If you look up "Delightfully Tacky-how to cut your own hair" there is a great video. I have 3a hair and it still worked out really well for me.
  • bringingcurliesback?bringingcurliesback? Posts: 1,307Registered Users
    @DatKoala93 I love her!!! And @chupie Sarah is great too!!
    I highly recommend cutting your hair but do know it can be addictive so learn to know when to put them down too lol. I actually am going through the same hair situation as you and I have the exact same hair in terms of the problem your encountering. Same sort of cut and layers are funky etc. too.

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  • MkmurdockMkmurdock Posts: 14Registered Users
    Wow, HtBlack. Your hair sounds just like mine except mine is a bit longer. I've trimmed my own hair successfully but not done anything with layers. Maybe I'll look up those videos and try, too. ImageUploadedByCurlTalk1393220002.987146.jpg
  • MeeBeeMeeBee Posts: 128Registered Users
    I just cut my own hair a couple months ago because, like you, I was desperate. I was starting the CG method and I needed my hands hacked off and I didn't have time or money to get to a salon. What I did is took my hair and put it in a high ponytail on the top center of my head. The farther up you put it the more layered it will be. Then I cut straight across the pony tail. Then to create more layers in the back, I gathered my hair into a ponytail in the back of my head and cut straight across the pony tail. I only ponytailed the back section. If you ponytail all of it you will get one of those layered bobs that are longer in the front. Some people want that I didn't. Then I just search and destroyed any scraggly bits that were left on the bottom.

    It isn't the best haircut I've ever had but it doesn't look to bad at all and the layers I made look great. Once it grows out a little more I will get it properly cut but for now with my curly hair it works for me. I cut a good bit of length off (I had a mini panic attack when I looked at the floor!) but it was worth it. My hair was pretty short to start off with and ended up just above my shoulders.

    Google and YouTube some good DIY haircutting and trimming videos and then go for it if you're feeling courageous. I figured, hey, it's hair and if it looks stupid it'll grow back or I can get it fixed, haha.
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  • TrickTrick Posts: 140Registered Users
    @DatKoala93 I love her!!! And @chupie Sarah is great too!!
    I highly recommend cutting your hair but do know it can be addictive so learn to know when to put them down too lol.

    Oh my gosh, ask me how I know this... :(

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  • HtBlackHtBlack Posts: 292Registered Users
    @chupie I just watched that but she cuts her hair dry, and with her perfectly shaped curls I can understand why she does... mine are all different sizes and curl differently every time so I believe I need to cut it wet. It was really helpful though, maybe when my hair is longer I can follow her method. (:

    @datkoala93 OMG she is saying the same things I think about my own hair! And we have veeery similar curls, as in wild and weird. XD how she cuts her hair is so scary, though. That scissor motion from down to up feels like inverted razoring to me, is it damaging at all for you, have you tried?

    @bringingcurliesback? haha then I will let you know how I end up cutting my hair and how it comes out. Maybe I can even record a video of it, if I find a slave willing to hold my phone for me...>_> like a husband...

    @Mkmurdock woow, your hair is so preeetty and long! I wish I had some decent pictures of the back of my hair to show you. Your curls are much more uniform than mine are, my pattern is never the same around my head. XD but it's getting lots better. I want to get at least around the length you have, too.

    @MeeBee I cut my hair in December right before my wedding, and I did some very subtle layers which I knew would regrow in a couple of months. I was happy with it, but as said, it wasn't a very bold cut so I wanted more suggestions now. XD and I feel the same as you, if it's bad it will regrow! It's "just" hair after all. <3

    @trick AWW. I'll be sure not to get scissors-happy. :C
    A 2C, wishfully thinking of being 3a. Sometimes I get there. CG since October 2013, Eurocurly (just for a few months more!), completely low-porosity now. SBL, wanting elbow length.

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    Homemade FSG, L'Oreal Styling Gel.
  • CoifedCoilsCoifedCoils Posts: 31Registered Users
    This post by minimalist beauty, called tips for cutting hair, has some pretty good tips.

    I don't think it mentions layers, but maybe it could give you an idea of what to do, specifically the video clip on there. I would post a link but I'm not allowed.
  • CoifedCoilsCoifedCoils Posts: 31Registered Users
    *tips for cutting CURLY hair
  • HtBlackHtBlack Posts: 292Registered Users
    So my girls, I cut it! :D I wanted to wait until I wash it again in a couple of days to post pictures because I cut after washing it and even if it's good, I feel like it needs another wash. I've also been using a slightly modified version of flax seed gel, so I want to see how it looks after the wash. <3

    THANK YOU all for the help! Cutting my hair was lots of fun. My husband kept staring at me like an abused puppy saying "but I love your long haaaaair..." even if I didn't trim the length, XD it was cute.
    A 2C, wishfully thinking of being 3a. Sometimes I get there. CG since October 2013, Eurocurly (just for a few months more!), completely low-porosity now. SBL, wanting elbow length.

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    CW-LI: Garnier Ultra Doux (Cocoa+Coconut Oil/Mango+Tiaré) or my own products.
    DC: Biofficina Toscana Maschera Nutriente Protettiva, or my own product.
    Homemade FSG, L'Oreal Styling Gel.
  • MkmurdockMkmurdock Posts: 14Registered Users
    Bring it on!
  • SamanthascurlzSamanthascurlz Posts: 1,082Registered Users
    Please post a before and after shot! :)
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  • HtBlackHtBlack Posts: 292Registered Users
    I washed it yesterday. :D I'm really happy with this!
    I'll post before and after shots in separate comments to avoid confusion.
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    The first one highlights the issue much better, curls start halfway down my head! XD my problem, though, is that I only take pictures of the better hair days. >_> the second picture, that you can tell by the length is more recent, is actually almost good hair. However you can see I sort of have gaps where it doesn't curl at all, on the left side. And that's it for my before hair.

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    A 2C, wishfully thinking of being 3a. Sometimes I get there. CG since October 2013, Eurocurly (just for a few months more!), completely low-porosity now. SBL, wanting elbow length.

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    Routine:
    CW-LI: Garnier Ultra Doux (Cocoa+Coconut Oil/Mango+Tiaré) or my own products.
    DC: Biofficina Toscana Maschera Nutriente Protettiva, or my own product.
    Homemade FSG, L'Oreal Styling Gel.
  • MeeBeeMeeBee Posts: 128Registered Users
    Never mind this is your before, d'oh! Can't wait for the after!
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  • HtBlackHtBlack Posts: 292Registered Users
    The natural light picture is today, the artificial looking one yesterday night. I like how it not only looks longer, but the curls are more spread throughout my head. I've also been using my flaxseed gel and a basic curl cream and I love them. (:
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    I could have added another layer on top but I was a bit scared of overdoing it. Oh also this!

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    We finally had a sunny day so the day I cut them I let them dry while I baked under the sun. :D now we're back to rain but whatever... ( ._.)

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    A 2C, wishfully thinking of being 3a. Sometimes I get there. CG since October 2013, Eurocurly (just for a few months more!), completely low-porosity now. SBL, wanting elbow length.

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    Routine:
    CW-LI: Garnier Ultra Doux (Cocoa+Coconut Oil/Mango+Tiaré) or my own products.
    DC: Biofficina Toscana Maschera Nutriente Protettiva, or my own product.
    Homemade FSG, L'Oreal Styling Gel.
  • HtBlackHtBlack Posts: 292Registered Users
    MeeBee wrote: »
    Never mind this is your before, d'oh! Can't wait for the after!

    Hehehe, I'm sorry. I posted the afters, anyway, and I read your original comment!

    What I did was this: I washed my hair, rinsed out all product well, combed through first with a wide tooth comb then with a tighter one to make it nice and straight so I could cut it even.
    Then with the tip of the thinner comb I traced just behind my ears a horizontal line from ear to ear and all the hair higher than that I put it up so I was left with only the very bottom strands. I checked if the tips were healthy and since they were, I didn't trim anything there, so I could keep the length yay. I tied that in a low ponytail so I knew not to to cut that when I put down the other layers.

    Then I took down the rest of the hair, traced another horizontal line half an inch higher up my head than the other one, let that hair down and put the rest up again. I worked one side at a time, it was easier since I was on my own doing it. So on my left side, I combed again through the hair strand I had, ran it through my index and middle finger to keep it tight, stopped an inch before the tips, and cut those off. Pretty much like hairdressers do. I was standing in front of a mirror of course.
    I did the same with the right side, trying to keep the same length. I have a blind eye so I don't have depth perception, LOL. Fun stuff happens sometimes.

    Then I did the same for the rest of my hair. Every time I put down a layer more of hair, I cut almost an inch of length off.

    After I was done, I combed my hair through again and looked at my back with the help of a second mirror. I noticed that the layers in my back weren't cut because I hadn't reached them, so I picked through the strands that hadn't been cut and evened them with the rest.
    That's it! I also have bangs that I usually straighten so I did those last.

    It was fun and overall easy. XD I'm happy it didn't end as a disaster... if the explanation was awful the next time I wash my hair I can comb it through and post pictures with the layer division.
    A 2C, wishfully thinking of being 3a. Sometimes I get there. CG since October 2013, Eurocurly (just for a few months more!), completely low-porosity now. SBL, wanting elbow length.

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    Routine:
    CW-LI: Garnier Ultra Doux (Cocoa+Coconut Oil/Mango+Tiaré) or my own products.
    DC: Biofficina Toscana Maschera Nutriente Protettiva, or my own product.
    Homemade FSG, L'Oreal Styling Gel.
  • MkmurdockMkmurdock Posts: 14Registered Users
    Really nice. Great job on the layers.
  • SamanthascurlzSamanthascurlz Posts: 1,082Registered Users
    Wow, you did a great job. You have beautiful hair! It definitely has some more curl to it and actually looks a bit thicker!
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  • HtBlackHtBlack Posts: 292Registered Users
    Thanks! (: it definitely does look thicker.

    Also, ever since cutting it it seems to be getting curlier... I don't know if it's that or the flax seed gel plus curl cream combo I'm using but I'm amazed. O.o

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    A 2C, wishfully thinking of being 3a. Sometimes I get there. CG since October 2013, Eurocurly (just for a few months more!), completely low-porosity now. SBL, wanting elbow length.

    --
    Routine:
    CW-LI: Garnier Ultra Doux (Cocoa+Coconut Oil/Mango+Tiaré) or my own products.
    DC: Biofficina Toscana Maschera Nutriente Protettiva, or my own product.
    Homemade FSG, L'Oreal Styling Gel.
  • waymire01waymire01 Posts: 113Registered Users
    I've cut my own for years, I just have had too many terrible experiences with stylists. I did go to school for hair many years ago although I never did it professionally and I also cut most of my families hair. The only time I have someone else do it is if it's so short I can't reach/see.
    Long layers are pretty easy. The only hard part is the outline.. the actual length/shape at the bottom all the way around. It's difficult to get that even on your own, unless you do the ponytail method which is only for 180 degree layers. If you want a lower layer you will need to get an "assistant" to do the outline if you need it.. and it's not impossible to mess up so they need to have some idea of what they are doing, or go to a stylist. If your outline is good you can do the actual layers yourself. What I do is section my hair into four to six sections around my head, clipping each one so it is all out of the way. My hair is very fine though, if yours is thicker you may need more sections. You may also want to section out about 2" around the bottom of your head and leave it out of the layer to give added density to the cut, it will also keep your outline solid. I don't but my hair is very layered and in an a-line outline so I'm not worried about having a clean outline. It's much easier and safer to section and clip all at once than trying to do it as you go, there is a greater chance of missing a piece of hair or cutting something you did not intend to. I suggest you start low, a 45 degree and then go up in increments if you need more.. can always cut more, can't glue it back on. Also be sure it's what you want because it takes a long time to grow out layers. I just take down one section, comb it smooth and straight and vertical so the top hair is at the top of your fingers and the bottom hair is at the bottom, hold it between my fingers at the desired level for the degree of layer I want, holding the fingers at 90 degrees to my head, and cut using the hair from the lowest part of my head as a guide. I hope that made sense, it's much easier to show than write out a description. Continue with each section. For the back get your fingers where you want them and a firm grip on the hair, then you can move your hand closer to your face so you can see better without messing up the measurement.. just don't let the hair slip. You might consider different angles of layering at different parts of your hair, for example I have a 180 in the front, 120 on the sides, and 90 in the back. Because my hair is longer in the front I need more volume up there to compensate for the extra weight, plus I like the back a bit smoother and the longer layers achieve that.
    This method is based on your outline as a guide, unlike some other methods I have seen including the pony tail. I find it hard to mess up.. and easy to keep up because in any future trims all you have to do is slide your fingers down the section, line up the top and bottom pieces of hair, and cut off the ends (1/4 inch, or more if you desire), and it automatically cuts all the hair the same amount. The ponytail will affect your outline (shortening your hair overall or changing the shape to longer in the back) and individual curl cutting (like the diva cut) means that every curl is at a different length and it's next to impossible to trim accurately in the future.
    Hope that helps.
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  • SamanthascurlzSamanthascurlz Posts: 1,082Registered Users
    HtBlack wrote: »
    Thanks! (: it definitely does look thicker.

    Also, ever since cutting it it seems to be getting curlier... I don't know if it's that or the flax seed gel plus curl cream combo I'm using but I'm amazed. O.o

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    Best way to tell is to go product naked and see how your hair responds! :) Glad you like it and are having wonderful results!
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