i want to wash and go! :)

suthrnqtsuthrnqt Posts: 80Registered Users
hi :) i'm faily new to being natural; i got the BC right after christmas, and i have been trying to find products and routines for my hair. i usually do 1 or 2 conditioner washes a week with suave naturals (berry) and 1 wash with [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/CURLS-Curlicious-Curls-Cleansing-Cream-p-886.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=Curls-Curlicious-Curls-Cleansing-Cream]curlicious curls cleansing cream[/buylink] per week. i have tried to do wash and go, but i can't seem to get it right.
water beads up on my hair, so it's kind of like it's never fully wet, even in the shower...i was thinking that maybe that's the reason i can't do it...since i cant apply products to wet hair. it usually ends up frizzy when i try.
i wanted to find a good leave in moisturizer (preferably a light cream) to use. i tried it with qhetmet's olive cream detangler, which gave good moisture, but no help with definition. today i bought elasta qp glaze conditioning shining gel (says it shines and defines) and long aid activator gel. i just tried them tonight, but it didn't turn out well :(
ps
my hair is 3c at the crown with slinky-like curls, 4a in the back with corkscrews and slinkies, and 4b around the front and side edges with slinky curls. it tends to be dry. most of the 4a curls on it's own while about half of the 3c curls in slikies and the rest waves and twists along the strand and curls at the ends. the 4b coils, but usually looks frizzy b/c it does not clump/separate. plz help
4a/b with a patch of 3c
OS - fine strands, wiry texture
big and thick beautiful hair :)
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  • CurlygoddessCurlygoddess Posts: 287Registered Users
    I know I sound like a broken record but I use and love [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]Kinky Curly Curling Custard[/buylink]. It is all natural and gave me curls I didnt know were ever there
    I have been using it for over a year and have strayed and tried different things but have not found anything that compares
    hth
    Thick coarse 4b hair. Holy Grail: Kinky-Curly Curling Custard. Trying to grow it to bra strap length. Currently collar bone length.
  • foxycus02foxycus02 Posts: 918Registered Users
    I like the kinky curly custard as well. It gives you a very defined hold. I do like big poofy hair though, so lately Ive been using the Garnier Curls Construct mousse. Id recommend you to get your hands on the Loreal vive pro nutri gloss condish for wavy/ curly hair. ITS great about the only drug store condish I use.

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  • suthrnqtsuthrnqt Posts: 80Registered Users
    thanks for the product recommendations. where do you get kinky curly custard? i've seen it mentioned on the boards alot.

    i tried using the long aid gel again today, and i had pretty nice results. i sectioned it, combed it through (while spraying water on it), and clipped it with butterfly clips and let it dry.
    4a/b with a patch of 3c
    OS - fine strands, wiry texture
    big and thick beautiful hair :)
    http://public.fotki.com/suthrnqt/
    password: growout
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  • Trina 08Trina 08 Posts: 31Registered Users
    Does it have ingredients such as PETROLEUM, MINERAL OIL, BEESWAX,LANOLIN, or anything ending with cone?
    African American with type 4a hair. I have been natural since 2005.
  • suthrnqtsuthrnqt Posts: 80Registered Users
    do you mean the long aid gel activator? it's a clear gel. after it dried fully, i decided that i might need to use a moisturizer under it. here are the ingredients for it:

    Water Aqua , Glycerin , Oleth-20 , Triethanolamine , Carbomer 940 , Aloe Vera Gel , Panthenol , Hydrolyzed Protein , DMDM Hydantoin , Methylparaben , Fragrance Parfum , Propylene Glycol , Ext. D&C Violet No. 2

    the next product i buy will be the fantasia ic gel. i think it may be a better gel than this is; people on this board have recommended it alot.

    i have been trying to avoid mineral oil, petrolatum, petroleum, silicones, and all the SLS's. i think my hair might not like a certain kind of alcohol either (cetearyl), but i'm still testing that out. as a result of avoiding these ingredients, i've had some trpuble finding hair products. i used to order qhemet products, but my budget has changed :( so i've had to go browsing at wal-mart, sally's, etc; i live in a kind of small town in the south too, so that can't be helpng my product situation.
    4a/b with a patch of 3c
    OS - fine strands, wiry texture
    big and thick beautiful hair :)
    http://public.fotki.com/suthrnqt/
    password: growout
    blog: http://suthrnqt.spaces.live.com/
  • curlmamacurlmama Posts: 24Registered Users
    4a hair
    I use Kinky Curly Knot Today and Kinky Curly Curling Custard. My daughters are 3c and 4b.
  • suthrnqtsuthrnqt Posts: 80Registered Users
    are oyin and kinky curly curlng custard sold in stores? or do i have to order them? I'm on a new, tight budget :oops: , and i can't afford to order hair products anymore. i have been searching for something that i can use that might be found in a wal-mart, target, sally's, grocery store, etc. i'm not really worried about curl definition anymore, i just want a good moistruzer and something to keep my hair from tangling. i really do appreciate the product recommendations and replies though...it might just be a while before i can try them out.

    does anyone know where i can find pure shea butter? i was thinking of trying to create a leave-in to use after washing/rinsing. do shea butter and jajoba oil mixed together work as a leave-in?
    4a/b with a patch of 3c
    OS - fine strands, wiry texture
    big and thick beautiful hair :)
    http://public.fotki.com/suthrnqt/
    password: growout
    blog: http://suthrnqt.spaces.live.com/
  • SuburbanbushbabeSuburbanbushbabe Posts: 15,402Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    suthrnqt wrote:
    hi :) i'm faily new to being natural; i got the BC right after christmas, and i have been trying to find products and routines for my hair. i usually do 1 or 2 conditioner washes a week with suave naturals (berry) and 1 wash with [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/CURLS-Curlicious-Curls-Cleansing-Cream-p-886.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=Curls-Curlicious-Curls-Cleansing-Cream]curlicious curls cleansing cream[/buylink] per week. i have tried to do wash and go, but i can't seem to get it right.
    water beads up on my hair, so it's kind of like it's never fully wet, even in the shower...i was thinking that maybe that's the reason i can't do it...since i cant apply products to wet hair. it usually ends up frizzy when i try.i wanted to find a good leave in moisturizer (preferably a light cream) to use. i tried it with qhetmet's olive cream detangler, which gave good moisture, but no help with definition. today i bought elasta qp glaze conditioning shining gel (says it shines and defines) and long aid activator gel. i just tried them tonight, but it didn't turn out well :(
    ps
    my hair is 3c at the crown with slinky-like curls, 4a in the back with corkscrews and slinkies, and 4b around the front and side edges with slinky curls. it tends to be dry. most of the 4a curls on it's own while about half of the 3c curls in slikies and the rest waves and twists along the strand and curls at the ends. the 4b coils, but usually looks frizzy b/c it does not clump/separate. plz help

    I'm trying to imagine why water would bead up on your hair-- 1) you may have product build up and need 1 clarifying wash 2) If you have short, thick hair it may look like it's beading up.

    I don't recommend styling without water. 1) To clarify you may have to wash with a sulfate poo once or try adding a little baking soda to your current shampoo to get any product build up out. 2)Try using a good leave in conditioner ([buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Elucence-Moisture-Balancing-Conditioner-p-39.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=elucence-elucence-moisture-balancing-conditioner]Elucence MBC[/buylink], Curl Junkie Hibisucus/Banana -- there are others), as well as a rinse out conditioner every time you wash or co-wash.
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  • subbrocksubbrock Posts: 8,212Registered Users
    [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]kinky curly curling custard[/buylink] is the shizzznit, but once i ran out of my 1st jar i never got around to reordering....

    BUT i do use the fantasia IC gel and its pretty darn good. [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Elucence-Moisture-Balancing-Conditioner-p-39.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=elucence-elucence-moisture-balancing-conditioner]elucence mb conditioner[/buylink] is great as a leave in and as a regular conditioner. so those two, combined with a little safflower/olive oil mixture is all i need.
  • suthrnqtsuthrnqt Posts: 80Registered Users

    I'm trying to imagine why water would bead up on your hair-- 1) you may have product build up and need 1 clarifying wash 2) If you have short, thick hair it may look like it's beading up.


    i don't think i have build up. i've clarified before, and i recently clarified too. i read the LOIS hairtyping system, and the wiry hair type is described as having water bead up or bounce off of it, and i tink i have that hair type. while i'm standing under the shower, my hair is wet, but when i step out from the water jets, the water starts to bead up; in my description, i meant that it never gets "soaking wet"; it usually is just damp, and it dries out quickly on the ends. i keep a spray bottle near when detangling out of the shower, and it's always covered in conditioner when i do. my hair is super thick too. i think it's about 6.5 in long, not sure; stretched (not straightened) it is collarbone length.

    thanks for the suggestions though :)
    4a/b with a patch of 3c
    OS - fine strands, wiry texture
    big and thick beautiful hair :)
    http://public.fotki.com/suthrnqt/
    password: growout
    blog: http://suthrnqt.spaces.live.com/
  • kimberlindakimberlinda Posts: 19Registered Users
    suthrnqt wrote:

    does anyone know where i can find pure shea butter? i was thinking of trying to create a leave-in to use after washing/rinsing. do shea butter and jajoba oil mixed together work as a leave-in?

    Have you tried the Cantu Shea Butter Repair Cream? It fits the bill as a budget friendly ($4.99 for 16 oz), moisturizing, shea butter leave in. You can find it at any beauty supply store. I've been using it successfully for over a month.

    Hope this helps.
    4a/4b O/S Cottony meets silky
    Current favs: Cantu Shea Butter Repair Cream, Jane Carter Wrap & Roll, BB Herbal Reconditioner
  • suthrnqtsuthrnqt Posts: 80Registered Users
    thanks kimberlinda :) i actually have some of the cantu leave-in. it works well as a deep treatment for me, but not as a leave in. i've tried using a little, using alot, applying to damp hair, and applying to dry hair, it's not a good leave-in for me. i love the smell though.

    i tried leaving some of my conditioner in today and yesterday, and it kept my hair moist for most of the day, and gave me okay definition. i also noticed that my hair tangles mostly on the ends, so i might be in need of a trim, because they tend to be drier than the rest of my hair too. i'm now on the lookout for shea butter and jajoba oil. i've never used either of them pure, but i've been reading good things about them on the boards. when i get to try them, i'll be sure to post my results.

    on a side note, when i started this thread, i was feeling a little discouraged. it seems like i can't find anything. it also made me think that i must have some weird or crazy hair type that no one else has. i'm feeling better about it now. i'm only about 3 months natural, and i know that it just takes a little while for some naturals to find a solid routine.
    thanks for all of your replies :)
    4a/b with a patch of 3c
    OS - fine strands, wiry texture
    big and thick beautiful hair :)
    http://public.fotki.com/suthrnqt/
    password: growout
    blog: http://suthrnqt.spaces.live.com/
  • SuburbanbushbabeSuburbanbushbabe Posts: 15,402Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    suthrnqt wrote:

    I'm trying to imagine why water would bead up on your hair-- 1) you may have product build up and need 1 clarifying wash 2) If you have short, thick hair it may look like it's beading up.


    i don't think i have build up. i've clarified before, and i recently clarified too. i read the LOIS hairtyping system, and the wiry hair type is described as having water bead up or bounce off of it, and i tink i have that hair type. while i'm standing under the shower, my hair is wet, but when i step out from the water jets, the water starts to bead up; in my description, i meant that it never gets "soaking wet"; it usually is just damp, and it dries out quickly on the ends. i keep a spray bottle near when detangling out of the shower, and it's always covered in conditioner when i do. my hair is super thick too. i think it's about 6.5 in long, not sure; stretched (not straightened) it is collarbone length.

    thanks for the suggestions though :)

    I didn't see any mention of rinseout conditioners or DTs in your OP except for Suave Naturals, which are not very moisturizing. I highly recommend them to increase your hair's ability to absorb moisture. DT with a mix of your favorite Suave natural, coconut milk, honey and your favorite oil. Some good moisturizing conditioners are [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Elucence-Moisture-Balancing-Conditioner-p-39.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=elucence-elucence-moisture-balancing-conditioner]Elucence Moisture Balancing[/buylink], Trader Joes Nourish, Robert Craig, [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/DevaCurl-One-Condition-p-55.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=devacurl-devacurl-one-condition]Devacurl One Condition[/buylink]. Others have also menioned Garnier Fructis curl and shine or smooth and shine. You can use all of these conditioners as a leave in as well. Some DTs - Jessicurl Weekly deep treatment, Curl Junkie Hibuscus & Banana deep fix, Ojon Restorative Hair Treatment, Lustrasilk Shea Butter Cholesteral, Anita Grant Rhassoul Mud Deep Treatment + coconut milk, ORS replenishing pak.

    The [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink] may work because it does require a LOT of water.
    I'm also thinking stylers with very absorbent properties - Blend Beauty stylers absorb very well and enhance texture -- [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Blended-Beauty-Happy-Nappy-Styles-p-533.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=blended-beauty-happy-nappy-styles]Happy Nappy Styles[/buylink], Curl Styling butter. All of these go on well on very wet hair.
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  • suthrnqtsuthrnqt Posts: 80Registered Users
    thanks suburban!
    i guess i have been relying too much on the suave. i tried curl ecstasy hair tea condtioner by curls for a DT, but i'm not sure how i feel about it yet...it works okay. i ordered it a few months ago, and i don't want to just throw it away. i'll give the garnier a another try. i used the curl and shine a couple times when i transitioned, but i didn't like it. it will probably work alot better now though, since i did the BC. i'm glad you mentioned it, because i completely forgot that i had some in my bathroom cabinet...there's all kinds of stuff in there.....i should really clean it out. lol! thanks for the product suggestions :)
    4a/b with a patch of 3c
    OS - fine strands, wiry texture
    big and thick beautiful hair :)
    http://public.fotki.com/suthrnqt/
    password: growout
    blog: http://suthrnqt.spaces.live.com/
  • SuburbanbushbabeSuburbanbushbabe Posts: 15,402Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    A lot of curlies swear by the Curls AHT mask.
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    Hear that crash? It's me falling off the CG wagon.
  • suthrnqtsuthrnqt Posts: 80Registered Users
    i know. i like it okay for a DT, but i tried using it for conditioner washes and as a leave-in unsuccessfully. it was too thick to easiy distribute through my hair for a co-wash, without putting on a plastic cap first for a little while, and i don't always have the time to do that. i tried using it as a leave-in by following mahisha'a tips on the curls site, but it left a whitish/greyish film...i may have used too much. i'm still experimenting with it though. i'm definitely not going to throw it away, especially after i already paid for it lol :)

    i have successufully tried and used qhemet products: olive cream detangler, amla and olive heavy cream, and olive and honey balm. they give me good moisture. i really want to try their new shampoo and the sidr tree butter balm too. i'm really curious about curl junkie products too, even thought they have gotten some mixed reviews on the boards. it might be a while before i can try them out though.

    thanks for all of your posts. you are all over the boards. lol :)
    i'm starting to think that alot of my problems are coming from my ends. i haven't trimmed them since the BC, and and most of my tangles and frizziness are on my ends, they are also the curliest part of my hair.
    4a/b with a patch of 3c
    OS - fine strands, wiry texture
    big and thick beautiful hair :)
    http://public.fotki.com/suthrnqt/
    password: growout
    blog: http://suthrnqt.spaces.live.com/

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