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Clarifying?

I've been using SM Cowash and As I am Cowash for a few months now and I'd like to clarify my hair to see if there is/make sure there's no buildup.

What do y'all use? A sulfate free shampoo or one of the natural methods (lemon or baking soda) in the recipe section?

Thanks!
Cowash: CJ Daily Fix
RO: Sweet Curls Elixirs Conditioning Elixir
Styler: SCE Flax Seed Gel and Hard Hold Gel

Comments

  • curlicious13curlicious13 Posts: 1,632Registered Users
    I wouldn't use baking soda on the hair because baking soda can damage your hair. While some naturals use apple cider vinegar to clarify, I don't. I used it once & my hair was shedding & felt really hard. I use suave clarifying shampoo which is ph balanced for hair. I clarify once a month.
  • curlicious13curlicious13 Posts: 1,632Registered Users
    If you decide to use apple cider vinegar to clarify, I would suggest using a tiny bit of apple cider vinegar like less than a teaspoon & the rest water. Apple cider vinegar is very strong. I use it to clean my fish tanks & it gets the tanks squeaky clean. I'm just saying.
  • JuliaRoseJuliaRose Posts: 68Registered Users
    I wouldn't use baking soda on the hair because baking soda can damage your hair. While some naturals use apple cider vinegar to clarify, I don't. I used it once & my hair was shedding & felt really hard. I use suave clarifying shampoo which is ph balanced for hair. I clarify once a month.

    This one? Daily Clarifying Shampoo & Conditioner | Suave
    Cowash: CJ Daily Fix
    RO: Sweet Curls Elixirs Conditioning Elixir
    Styler: SCE Flax Seed Gel and Hard Hold Gel
  • CurlyInParadiseCurlyInParadise Posts: 137Registered Users
    Does using a sulfate shampoo to clarify, set you back in your CG plan?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]______
    3a, med porous, low density
    Poo: Have to admit I have recently become a Wen convert. Love it. I have always had problems with my hair "hanging" right, curling uniformly and destorting the perimeter line. Wen makes it hang evenly.
  • JuliaRoseJuliaRose Posts: 68Registered Users
    Would a sulfate free shampoo do the trick?

    Like SheaMoisture Coconut & Hibiscus Curl & Shine Sha... : Target

    or SheaMoisture Yucca & Baobab Thickening Shampoo -... : Target

    Or do I really need to just get in there with some sulfates every once in awhile?
    Cowash: CJ Daily Fix
    RO: Sweet Curls Elixirs Conditioning Elixir
    Styler: SCE Flax Seed Gel and Hard Hold Gel
  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 19,249Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    I've been using vinegar rinses once or twice a month for about 40 years and still love them.
    I also like VO5 kiwi and lime conditioner for clarifying.
    I've never used a sulfate free shampoo and haven't used shampoo of any kind in 10 years so I can't help there.
    --I'm located in Western PA.
    --I found NC in late 2004, CG since February 2005, started going grey in late 2005.
    --My hair is 3B with some 3A, texture-medium/fine, porosity-normal except for the ends which are porous, elasticity-normal.
    --My long time favorite products are Suave & VO5 conditioners, LA Looks Sport Gel, oils, honey, vinegar.
    --My CG and grey hair progress -- http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/going-gray/179328-jeepys-grey-hair-progress.html
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    Vinegar is chelating not clarifying. I honestly can't see how a conditioner can possibly be clarifying either, you need potent foaming type surfactants like the sulphates, olefin sulfonates or cocoamidopropyl betaine.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 19,249Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    ^ It may not be scientific but it has worked for me for 40 years.
    --I'm located in Western PA.
    --I found NC in late 2004, CG since February 2005, started going grey in late 2005.
    --My hair is 3B with some 3A, texture-medium/fine, porosity-normal except for the ends which are porous, elasticity-normal.
    --My long time favorite products are Suave & VO5 conditioners, LA Looks Sport Gel, oils, honey, vinegar.
    --My CG and grey hair progress -- http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/going-gray/179328-jeepys-grey-hair-progress.html
  • JuliaRoseJuliaRose Posts: 68Registered Users
    So, what do you suggest I should use? One of the shampoos listed above or something else?
    Cowash: CJ Daily Fix
    RO: Sweet Curls Elixirs Conditioning Elixir
    Styler: SCE Flax Seed Gel and Hard Hold Gel
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    A clarifying shampoo is rich in one of the surfactants already listed and non conditioning/ clear type. I'm not a US citizen so no idea what products you have available. A lot of people seem to like Kinky Curly Come Clean which is rich in an olefin sulfonate IIRC.

    I use a betaine-rich shampoo 'base' (few ingredients) I purchase online, and also use as my hand wash and shower gel (eczematous skin hates sulphates).

    I don't know what Jeepcurlygirl is achieving since I obviously don't have her hair, but IMO clarifying is simply the wrong word in this context.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 19,249Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    I don't know what Jeepcurlygirl is achieving since I obviously don't have her hair, but IMO clarifying is simply the wrong word in this context.

    Well that could be. I never looked up the word because I figured I knew what it meant but maybe I don't! : )
    To me clarifying means really getting my hair super clean and fresh, removing product buildup, oily scalp, etc, making hair almost squeaky clean and smooth. And that's what vinegar rinses and clarifying conditioner do for my hair and scalp.
    --I'm located in Western PA.
    --I found NC in late 2004, CG since February 2005, started going grey in late 2005.
    --My hair is 3B with some 3A, texture-medium/fine, porosity-normal except for the ends which are porous, elasticity-normal.
    --My long time favorite products are Suave & VO5 conditioners, LA Looks Sport Gel, oils, honey, vinegar.
    --My CG and grey hair progress -- http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/going-gray/179328-jeepys-grey-hair-progress.html
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    JuliaRose wrote: »
    I've been using SM Cowash and As I am Cowash for a few months now and I'd like to clarify my hair to see if there is/make sure there's no buildup.

    What do y'all use? A sulfate free shampoo or one of the natural methods (lemon or baking soda) in the recipe section?

    Thanks!

    If you feel like you have build up, you could start with something like Yes to Cucumbers- it is sulfate free.

    If you feel like you need something stronger, you could just get a trial size of Johnson's baby shampoo, no more tears formula.

    In my experience, the Shea moisture poos are not clarifying, and in fact contribute to build up for me.
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • JuliaRoseJuliaRose Posts: 68Registered Users
    I just grabbed a bottle of the Suave clarifying today. If my hair hates it, I only wasted $1.50 and I'll find some of the YTC. :) Thanks!

    ETA: I used the Suave Clarifying on Tuesday. It was super scary because my hair felt like straw when I rinsed the shampoo, but I conditioned and all was right with the world. :) I feel like my hair is a little bouncier and I got some compliments, so I'm going to count it as a success. I'll probably keep a monthly clarifying in my routine.
    Cowash: CJ Daily Fix
    RO: Sweet Curls Elixirs Conditioning Elixir
    Styler: SCE Flax Seed Gel and Hard Hold Gel
  • SortaRicanSortaRican Posts: 310Registered Users
    I have As I Am Clarifying Shampoo but I've only used it once. How often should you typically clarify? Whenever you feel you need it? Is once a month safe? I guess I unknowingly stopped using shampoo (more so due to being lazy). I haven't shampooed in almost a month but my hair doesn't seem to need it. Although I do cowash regularly, I'm wondering if it's time to clarify.
    3b/3c
    Fine, Long, High Density, Normal Porosity, Normal Elasticity

    Products
    CoWash: YTC Nourishing Conditioner/AO Honeysuckle Rose
    LI: GDLI
    Styler: KCCC
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • sixelamysixelamy Posts: 4,156Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    SortaRican wrote: »
    I have As I Am Clarifying Shampoo but I've only used it once. How often should you typically clarify? Whenever you feel you need it? Is once a month safe? I guess I unknowingly stopped using shampoo (more so due to being lazy). I haven't shampooed in almost a month but my hair doesn't seem to need it. Although I do cowash regularly, I'm wondering if it's time to clarify.

    Clarify whenever you feel you need it. I didn't find the AIA Curl Clarity to be particularly clarifying. It left a weird residue in my hair, but hopefully you'll like it better than I did! I low poo about once a week now, and this would be clarifying for me. Everybody's different and prefers a different feel to their hair. I prefer mine to feel more "clean" due to my hard water.
    2c-3a - med-coarse - normal-high porosity - high density
    :bunny:
    NP/LP: CJ Daily Fix, KMF Whenever / Giovanni TTTT
    RO/LI: Aussie Moist, CJ Argan & Olive Oil, Hask Keratin Protein
    DC/PROTEIN: KC Stellar Strands / CNPF
    STYLER: CJ Curl Queen
    COLOR: henna, amla & indigo
    :thumbdown:: glycerin in high/low dews, polyquat-10 & 11, parabens
  • SortaRicanSortaRican Posts: 310Registered Users
    sixelamy wrote: »
    SortaRican wrote: »
    I have As I Am Clarifying Shampoo but I've only used it once. How often should you typically clarify? Whenever you feel you need it? Is once a month safe? I guess I unknowingly stopped using shampoo (more so due to being lazy). I haven't shampooed in almost a month but my hair doesn't seem to need it. Although I do cowash regularly, I'm wondering if it's time to clarify.

    Clarify whenever you feel you need it. I didn't find the AIA Curl Clarity to be particularly clarifying. It left a weird residue in my hair, but hopefully you'll like it better than I did! I low poo about once a week now, and this would be clarifying for me. Everybody's different and prefers a different feel to their hair. I prefer mine to feel more "clean" due to my hard water.

    I'll probably use it just to see how it makes my hair feel. Like I said before I haven't shampooed in almost a month and my hair seems to be doing fine without it but I'm going to clarify just to see if I notice any difference. Hopefully it's a good difference. I also have the GVP Reconstructor Conditioner (compare to Joico K-Pak). I'm wondering if I should use that conditioner or if my Tresemme Naturals would do fine following the clarifyer.
    3b/3c
    Fine, Long, High Density, Normal Porosity, Normal Elasticity

    Products
    CoWash: YTC Nourishing Conditioner/AO Honeysuckle Rose
    LI: GDLI
    Styler: KCCC
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • curlicious13curlicious13 Posts: 1,632Registered Users
    I clarify using the suave clarifying shampoo & it works fine for me. When I clarify, I deep condition & everything is right with the world.
  • curlicious13curlicious13 Posts: 1,632Registered Users
    I use the Eden body works deep condition.
  • sixelamysixelamy Posts: 4,156Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    You can use whatever conditioner, either of those would be fine. It's not like you're using a sulfate on your hair, and you're cowashing exclusively otherwise. See how your hair feels after using it and decide from there.
    2c-3a - med-coarse - normal-high porosity - high density
    :bunny:
    NP/LP: CJ Daily Fix, KMF Whenever / Giovanni TTTT
    RO/LI: Aussie Moist, CJ Argan & Olive Oil, Hask Keratin Protein
    DC/PROTEIN: KC Stellar Strands / CNPF
    STYLER: CJ Curl Queen
    COLOR: henna, amla & indigo
    :thumbdown:: glycerin in high/low dews, polyquat-10 & 11, parabens
  • aspenaspen Posts: 154Registered Users
    I've had great luck clarifying monthly with Pantene's Aqua Light shampoo, it's as simple as you can get and easy on the wallet.

    I'm always a little shocked by how squeaky my hair feels after using sulfates, but with some conditioner and TLC I get a lot of shine and bounce for weeks.
    3A-3B / Medium / High Density / Low Porosity
    Modified CG
    Low poo: Creme of Nature Argan Oil Moisture & Shine
    Conditioner: Curls Unleashed NB
    Leave in: Creme of Natura Argan Oil Strengthen & Shine
    Styling Product: Curl Keeper/ Curly Solutions gel
  • SortaRicanSortaRican Posts: 310Registered Users
    my hair could defintely use some more shine :neutral:
    3b/3c
    Fine, Long, High Density, Normal Porosity, Normal Elasticity

    Products
    CoWash: YTC Nourishing Conditioner/AO Honeysuckle Rose
    LI: GDLI
    Styler: KCCC
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]