Changing Properties with Gray Hair?

RustinaRustina Registered Users Posts: 894 Curl Neophyte
I'm curious to know if anyone has noticed their properties changing when they go gray. When I first went CG in August 2010 (I was still coloring then, though it stopped a few months later), I had the LCLF hair analysis done and was told my hair was medium coarse and needed little to no protein and lots of moisture. For the next couple of years, I threw moisture at my hair like there was no tomorrow - regular DTs with CJ Curl Rehab, rich conditioners like CJAO and Jessicurl Too Shea whenever I wet my hair, and moisturizing stylers. That worked well for awhile, even as I grew my old color out and went gray.

I've been at my natural colors (salt and pepper) for at least a year now, maybe two. And I am noticing that my hair is tolerating a lot of protein these days (or what I consider a lot, since I didn't use any before). There was one particular time back in the summer when my hair was just getting progressively frizzy and was losing curl, and I kept thinking it needed a DT, so I did one - but it didn't look any better. Out of desperation, I did a PT and my curl came back and my frizz started to dissipate. Since then, I've been using protein once a week or so, in the form of a RO with CJ Repair Me or more recently, adding Colorful Neutral Protein Filler to my RO condish (since the beauty supply place was out of Repair Me last time I went).

So I am wondering if this change in properties is just the natural evolution of my hair (I have read that properties can change naturally over time), a function of no longer coloring (I have also read that coloring makes the hair more coarse, so maybe no longer coloring is making it grow in less coarse), or just a differing need of gray hair in general. I have read that gray hair needs more moisture, but could it need more protein, too?

I would appreciate any input, from either scientific or experiential points of view.
Sulfate/non-water-soluble silicone free since 8/16/10
Northern VA
Med-coarse, normal porosity, low elasticity
Dye-free since 11/2010

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  • wavypenwavypen Registered Users Posts: 253 Curl Neophyte
    Interesting, and I've been wondering if my silver hairs are much lower porosity than my brown hairs because they're so resistant to dye.
  • chupiechupie Registered Users Posts: 5,280 Curl Connoisseur
    I would guess for sure it would change. When I first went to a salon a year ago to get it done to blend the grey in that was starting to be too hard to box color the first time through the stylist said she didn't like how it covered and said she up the peroxide? Developer? Can't remember what but whatever it was she said to lift the cuticle on the grey more to take color. That tells me my greys are a lot less porous than my dyed hair.
    2a medium porous, You can see my wavy tutorials here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLy8bclCLgER5N_uVYSYZNxhBHSXAW40OQ and my wavy blog is The Wavy Nation http://wavynation.wordpress.com
  • chloe92uschloe92us Registered Users Posts: 1,203 Curl Neophyte
    My new growth is definitely lower porosity than my dyed hair. I guess that's to be expected, though, since dyeing does cause damage. My roots take a lot longer to dry.

    Rustina- as for the protein, I think all hair needs some; yours was just starving for it, lol. Be careful, though,you can have too much of a good thing.
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • RustinaRustina Registered Users Posts: 894 Curl Neophyte
    Definitely!

    I assume my texture has changed some, based on my new tolerance for protein, but I wonder about the porosity of my grays. I'm tempted to send another sample of all gray hairs for analysis just to see what they say!
    Sulfate/non-water-soluble silicone free since 8/16/10
    Northern VA
    Med-coarse, normal porosity, low elasticity
    Dye-free since 11/2010

  • chupiechupie Registered Users Posts: 5,280 Curl Connoisseur
    Rustina wrote: »
    Definitely!

    I assume my texture has changed some, based on my new tolerance for protein, but I wonder about the porosity of my grays. I'm tempted to send another sample of all gray hairs for analysis just to see what they say!

    It's not a bad idea.
    2a medium porous, You can see my wavy tutorials here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLy8bclCLgER5N_uVYSYZNxhBHSXAW40OQ and my wavy blog is The Wavy Nation http://wavynation.wordpress.com
  • rbbrbb Registered Users Posts: 4,355 Curl Connoisseur
    rustina -- i had started a thread like this, gray hair and porosity, when we were in the over 40 forum. they just moved it over to going gray forum.

    my hair porosity is confusing to me now. in the living free analysis a few yrs back (but after i had stopped coloring) that included both white and my still naturally dark brown hair i was told it is normal. which it probably is.

    however, it now loses moisture rapidly unless i seal, and yet it seems to take longer to dry, 4 hrs instead of 3hrs. so....??????

    i was told by stylists that gray hair loses moisture more quickly.

    3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity :-(
    washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
    leave in:curl junkie conditioners and treatments as leave in
    styling: curl junkie 
    sealants - jane carter nourish & shine
  • RustinaRustina Registered Users Posts: 894 Curl Neophyte
    rbb, I saw that thread yesterday, once it was moved to the new forum. Interesting.

    How do you seal, exactly?
    Sulfate/non-water-soluble silicone free since 8/16/10
    Northern VA
    Med-coarse, normal porosity, low elasticity
    Dye-free since 11/2010

  • rbbrbb Registered Users Posts: 4,355 Curl Connoisseur
    i use either jane carter nourish & shine or spiral solutions emollience butter.

    after my leave in generally blot it a bit, then emulsify a little in my hands and rake it thru bottom, then a little more for the top.

    then i add styler if i am going to, sometimes i just let it air dry then add gel.

    if the dew points are solidly in a mid range and my hair is feeling moisturized, then i'll skip it.

    3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity :-(
    washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
    leave in:curl junkie conditioners and treatments as leave in
    styling: curl junkie 
    sealants - jane carter nourish & shine
  • RustinaRustina Registered Users Posts: 894 Curl Neophyte
    Hmmm, I will have to try that. I have the JCN&S, but I only ever used it to SOTC. I'll have to try your method next time I wash and see how it does. Thanks!
    Sulfate/non-water-soluble silicone free since 8/16/10
    Northern VA
    Med-coarse, normal porosity, low elasticity
    Dye-free since 11/2010

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