Ongoing scalp problem - long/thick hair

My scalp never itches, but it's covered in flakes. If I part my hair, I can see the... dryness? dandruff? whatever it is....It's basically everywhere. Especially the front of my head to the middle of my head.

I don't scratch (unless I'm about to shower and I pick it because I'm gross like that), so it's not like flakes are flying everywhere or all over me or anything, but it's SO SO SO ANNOYING. :(

I do the curly girl method, and have been for years. I wash about 1x a week. 1-1.5 days after washing, flakes are back as normal. I've put coconut oil & jojoba oil on my scalp, nada. I can't imagine washing my hair every 1-2 days. I don't have the time or energy for that! lol

Another problem with this is my length. Parting my hair in enough sections is exhausting and hard (especially cuz my hair tangles up easily). I feel like I can't get enough access to every part of my scalp.

I remember having the same scalp issue even with shorter hair, so I don't want to resort to cutting it.

most recent hair pic:

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So, my question is, what's your best concoction for getting rid of your flakes? Should I shampoo? Tea tree or ACV? Long hair curlies with dry scalp pleaseeee help!
Type: 3a/3b
Hair length: Hip length.
Products: GVP Conditioning Balm, Kinky Curly Knot Today, Curly Hair Solutions Curl Keeper, Biosilk Rock Hard Gelee, Kinky Curly Custard, Jojoba Oil

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  • BluebloodBlueblood Posts: 1,748Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    You could dry cowashing or simply wetting so your scalp gets cleaned more than once a week.


    Btw the CG method involes using less drying shampoos. So if you do this once a week then the other wash methods should help.
  • darcurldarcurl Posts: 586Registered Users
    I don't know if this is true, but the same happens to me. I thought maybe it's all the botanical extracts that are in products, and after a day or so some of the excess that doesn't absorb into the hair, still left on the shaft, flakes off and gets trapped down between your hair on your scalp. That's a theory of what is happening, because the same is happening to me. My scalp itches sometimes, but it is always excessively flaky, especially if I scratch it or wave it around or something like that.
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  • StarmieStarmie Posts: 7,155Registered Users Curl Virtuoso
    Have you been to the doctor to see if there's something medical going on? They may be able to shed some light on it or at least give some advice.
    3b in South Australia.
  • waterlily716waterlily716 Posts: 781Registered Users
    Have you tried exfoliating your scalp on wash day to try and get rid of the flakes? I mix a little granulated sugar or brown sugar with my co wash and it really helps get rid of the flakes (after an oil treatment).

    Also if this is an ongoing problem, maybe try going to see a dermatologist. They may be able to really solve the problem.
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  • samandalovesamandalove Posts: 38Registered Users
    Thanks, guys.

    I never really considered a derm because my scalp isn't as bad as the scalps I see when I google psoriasis/dermatitis etc.

    I'll have to try the sugar exfoliation again! I used to do it years ago.

    Can I try white sugar? I don't think I have any brown!
    Type: 3a/3b
    Hair length: Hip length.
    Products: GVP Conditioning Balm, Kinky Curly Knot Today, Curly Hair Solutions Curl Keeper, Biosilk Rock Hard Gelee, Kinky Curly Custard, Jojoba Oil
  • samandalovesamandalove Posts: 38Registered Users
    waterlily, do you still plan on cutting your hair!?
    Type: 3a/3b
    Hair length: Hip length.
    Products: GVP Conditioning Balm, Kinky Curly Knot Today, Curly Hair Solutions Curl Keeper, Biosilk Rock Hard Gelee, Kinky Curly Custard, Jojoba Oil
  • hippiechic81hippiechic81 Posts: 1,239Registered Users
    I have scalp issues too and I've finally found some relief with lavender oil. Always try to make sure you're staying well hydrated and limit the amount of alcohol-based products. Also, make sure you're rinsing your hair with lukewarm to cool water. Good luck!
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  • CGNYCCGNYC Posts: 4,938Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Have you tried Snake Oil from Lush? It's Retro do you can only get it online, but it's great.
  • StarmieStarmie Posts: 7,155Registered Users Curl Virtuoso
    White sugar's fine, it's what I used to use, my brown sugar used to dissolve before it could do any scrubbing!
    3b in South Australia.
  • wavydazewavydaze Posts: 2,065Registered Users Curl Novice
    There's a lot of oils and scrubs and blah blah that may or may not help you, or possibly make your condition worse.

    I have seborrheic dermatitis and the only thing that really helps me is Selsun Blue. Yes it's got sulfates but I just pre-poo or condition up the lengths of my hair and apply the shampoo only to the scalp.

    I tried a low-poo for dandruff with tea tree oil & salicylic acid and it DESTROYED my scalp. The flakes were WAY worse and my scalp was red and inflamed. No no. Not again. Maybe it was the tea tree oil, maybe the salicylic acid, maybe the combination of the two? Who knows.

    A lot of botanicals can be inflammatory. Scrubs can maybe rid the flakes temporarily, but if you have a condition like SD it won't get rid of the root cause.

    So, my recommend, before going crazy with all sorts of sugar scrubs and botanicals and buying things for dandruff when maybe your condition isn't dandruff at all... go to a derm and have your scalp looked at. Flakes could mean a number of things. This is the best way to avoid making things worse.


    If for whatever reason, you cannot make it to the derm, or insurance doesn't cover it and you can't pay for it etc.... then my best instinct would be to treat it like dry scalp so have a cleansing routine that isn't drying. Cowashing or gentle low-pooing should help, if you're already doing this (as I think you mentioned you were) I would recommend switching products or finding something gentle and hypoallergenic (like Free & Clear shampoo).
    Keep in mind it could be an allergy.

    If that doesn't work, then I would say treat it like dandruff and buy medicated shampoos with Selenium sulfide, Zinc pyrithione, Coal tar or salicylic acid. I'd stay away from shampoos with extra botanicals and just get the regular T-gels, Head & Shoulders and Selsun Blues. If your situation doesn't improve or gets worse with these shampoos, DEFINITELY time to see a derm. Again, if you can, I would recommend a medical diagnosis as the first step, before trying anything else. Good luck!
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  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Get a formal diagnosis from your family doctor or a dermatologist, you can very easily WORSEN a problem self treating a self diagnosis. All skin disorders can be mild moderate or severe.

    If you have a form of inflammatory condition (any dermatitis) you should not manually exfoliate since that increase irritation and further damage the skin barrier.

    If you have seborrhoeic dermatitis do not use any oil or butter rich in oleic acid, stearic acid or palmitic acid. It would be wise to avoid anything rich in oleic acid in any skin barrier disorder: it is a proven barrier disruptor and penetration enhancer.
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  • samandalovesamandalove Posts: 38Registered Users
    Thanks for the info everyone! :)

    I ended up doing the scrub and it helped. I feel like if I had help applying, i'd get a much better result.

    I also decided to try Selsen blue for my scalp only. I will try it once, and if I continue, I'll use it maybe once every 10-14 days or so. I'll keep you all updated.
    Type: 3a/3b
    Hair length: Hip length.
    Products: GVP Conditioning Balm, Kinky Curly Knot Today, Curly Hair Solutions Curl Keeper, Biosilk Rock Hard Gelee, Kinky Curly Custard, Jojoba Oil
  • StarmieStarmie Posts: 7,155Registered Users Curl Virtuoso
    I'm glad it helped. I have psoriasis on my scalp and it's a pain trying to find all the bits of it when I'm applying stuff, I agree it would be handy to have someone there helping!
    3b in South Australia.
  • waterlily716waterlily716 Posts: 781Registered Users
    waterlily, do you still plan on cutting your hair!?

    Yes, I do. I just did a blog post about it. I usually grow out my hair really long and then cut! :) Not till it gets a bit warmer though. Brrr.

    Glad to hear the scrub worked!
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    CO wash: suave naturals coconut
    rinse out CO: GVP conditioning balm
    stylers: KCNT, CK, jessicurl spiralicious
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  • CurlyCitaCurlyCita Posts: 152Registered Users
    OMG!! I swear I have the same exact problem except my hair is no where near the length that yours is so length isnt a problem. A couple of ppl have recommended that i try jojoba oil but i dont really like buying stuff anymore based off what others say. my whole head likes coconut oil and itll get rid of it for a little bit but the small flakes will still come back :/. Plus i havent had coconut oil in my possession in a while anyway. Have u tried hot oil treatments? I did realize that this helps a little with my dry scalp, but u would prob have to do them often and i do not do hot oil treatments often (maybe once a month if that) because i dont like my tub or body being greasy. Anyway that could be a good option...hope u figure it out and if u do, let me know girl cause whew! :)
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    MAYcowash w/VO5 conditioner mid-week and rebraid again. I always unbraid w/Coconut oil on hands.
  • samandalovesamandalove Posts: 38Registered Users
    I've used this 3 times and I like the results. My scalp is much cleaner & flake free.

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    It's not moisturizing, but I only use it on my scalp. I can feel my hair get DRY after I rinse, but I apply conditioner after and it's fine.
    Type: 3a/3b
    Hair length: Hip length.
    Products: GVP Conditioning Balm, Kinky Curly Knot Today, Curly Hair Solutions Curl Keeper, Biosilk Rock Hard Gelee, Kinky Curly Custard, Jojoba Oil

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