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Talk to Me About Eczema & Ear Infections-UPDATED

SweetPicklesSweetPickles Posts: 850Registered Users
I probably should make two separate posts, but I am lazy.

First, the eczema question:
I am pretty sure a couple of you have wee ones with eczema, and I'm pretty sure that you've recommended some lotions etc. A search turned up nothing, so if any of you can remind me what products you like, I'd appreciate it! In addition to the eczema patches, Z has inherited my ridiculously dry, sensitive skin, and she's currently a mess.

Next, ear infections:
Z got sick the day she went to daycare 8 weeks ago and literally hasn't had a single truly well day since (until then, she'd had exactly one teeny sniffle). Most recently is the Ear Infection From Hell. We just finished our 2nd round of antibiotics in 5 weeks, and it's clearly still hanging on; she doesn't really seem even a little better (up till 1 am screaming her head off last night, poor thing). I've never in my life had an ear infection (I was a strep-throat-all-the-time kid) and neither has my husband, so we're both clueless. I know several of you have dealt with chronic ear infections, so I'm just wondering if you have any ideas/suggestions/support. I get the sense that ear infections can be persistent and a giant PITA to deal with. I hate the thought too of having her on all these meds constantly (antibiotics, Motrin...).

I am TERRIFIED that my kid has suddenly turned into one of those always-sick children. She's otherwise in pretty good spirits, just clearly having some pain :(
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    Daycares are notorious germ factories. Have you thought about private daycare? Fewer germs that way.

    There's an historical reason why public schools start at age 5 or 6 in our country. It's not because kids can't learn before that. It's because the immune system isn't mature enough to ward off most germs until around age 5, so to have more kids live in the old days before antibiotics, schools didn't start til age 6 or first grade (kindergarten came later).

    My kids didn't have a lot of ear infections, or illnesses in general, because I mostly kept them out of daycare. Having worked in pediatric nursing for a number of years, though, I saw tons of them. Chronic use of antibiotics seems to be the answer for many, that and ear tubes if the infections persist. Personally, I think a lot of ear infections are viral in origin (bacterial secondary infections can occur though) and are the result of multiple common cold viruses. Keeping kids from getting sick in the first place seems to help ward off ear infections. You could try just building the immune system through diet...lots of Vitamin-C-rich foods daily. I wouldn't give ecchinacea to a child...it can be liver toxic if used long-term. Sorry to say, I think the only way to really keep kids from getting sick and having ear infections, is to keep them away from other sick kids as much as possible. If you can't do that, then multiple doctor visits and multiple courses of antibiotics are probably in your future.
  • DarkAngelDarkAngel Posts: 2,671Registered Users
    Excema - This is an ongoing battle in my house. First, what are you using to wash her? If you say J&J baby wash, trash it! That stuff is so bad for baby skin. Many parents find success with dove soap but we had to use California Baby Sensitive bath wash. Anything else breaks X out. We smooth California Baby Calendula cream over all of his bad spots. This usually does the trick but recently, he was so bad that he was bleeding so we used 1% hydrocortisone cream on him for two days. That cleared him up a lot.

    The only products that touch his skin (including sunscreen) are either CB or Weleda. I have had better success with CB but like Weleda as well. We only bathe twice a week. I would love to bathe him more but right now his skin can't handle it. Immediately after bath, we slather him with his calendula cream while he is still damp.

    Ear infections - We have recurrent ear infections in my home. Xander will be seeing a specialist in two weeks to determine if he has any hearing loss and how best to proceed.

    Marielle is queen with this if you are into natural remedies. The best thing that she recommended to me was garlic mullein oil. I swear this stuff is magical because it calms Xander almost instantly. We also use Hylands ear infection tablets. I believe they help but we only just started using them. For his last ear infections, I also gave him a lot of tylenol and motrin but that was partly to bring down his 105 fever. :(

    I wouldn't worry too much about the daycare connection. I have been pretty hard on myself about that but many of the moms here say that they have had the same problems with their stay at home babies.
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    I wouldn't worry too much about the daycare connection. I have been pretty hard on myself about that but many of the moms here say that they have had the same problems with their stay at home babies.


    The fact remains...people get sick from germs. They catch the germs from other people. Kids are more susceptable to illness and are sick more often...they just are. The more exposure kids have with other sick kids, the sicker they are going to be. A daycare center with 100 kids in it is going to have a larger variety of germs than a homecare situation where there are maybe 3-5 kids. So, while kids are really young (up til around age 2), I don't personally think they should be in daycare centers if one can possibly avoid it.
  • DarkAngelDarkAngel Posts: 2,671Registered Users
    I wouldn't worry too much about the daycare connection. I have been pretty hard on myself about that but many of the moms here say that they have had the same problems with their stay at home babies.


    The fact remains...people get sick from germs. They catch the germs from other people. Kids are more susceptable to illness and are sick more often...they just are. The more exposure kids have with other sick kids, the sicker they are going to be. A daycare center with 100 kids in it is going to have a larger variety of germs than a homecare situation where there are maybe 3-5 kids. So, while kids are really young (up til around age 2), I don't personally think they should be in daycare centers if one can possibly avoid it.

    The fact remains that if a mother has to work it's pretty crappy to pile additional guilt on regarding her situation.





    Sweetpickles, Xander goes to a babysitter with only a few other children. It's pretty darn ideal for us. I do feel that he is exposed to less germs there but is not living in a bubble. Is a smaller child care situation accessible for you?
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    The fact remains that if a mother has to work it's pretty crappy to pile additional guilt on regarding her situation.


    Sweetpickles, Xander goes to a babysitter with only a few other children. It's pretty darn ideal for us. I do feel that he is exposed to less germs there but is not living in a bubble. Is a smaller child care situation accessible for you?


    I'm not piling crap on anyone...just stating facts, and I offered the same suggestion you just did. Many new parents don't realize the illness risks of daycare centers until after they've got a sick kid.
  • SweetPicklesSweetPickles Posts: 850Registered Users
    Thanks for the response DarkAngel--I was pretty sure you were battling both these issues.
    DarkAngel wrote:
    Excema - This is an ongoing battle in my house. First, what are you using to wash her? If you say J&J baby wash, trash it! That stuff is so bad for baby skin. Many parents find success with dove soap but we had to use California Baby Sensitive bath wash. Anything else breaks X out.
    We actually just started using the California Baby Sensitive wash stuff, which seem to have helped some. But winters are so dry here that she's still having skin issues.
    DarkAngel wrote:
    We smooth California Baby Calendula cream over all of his bad spots. This usually does the trick but recently, he was so bad that he was bleeding so we used 1% hydrocortisone cream on him for two days. That cleared him up a lot. .
    I *thought* that was the cream you (and J'adore, I believe) liked, and I almost bought some in Whole Foods. I'll definitely have to try it. Dumb question: how lingering is the scent on the calendula cream? I am willing to try anything, but dang, I do not like the scent of that stuff! Do you use it on just the bad spots, or as a lotion in general? Are there any particular Weleda products you've liked? We have some hydrocortisone around too, so I'll give that a try if it gets any worse. I'm hoping now that spring (and humidity) is approaching, this will sort itself out.
    DarkAngel wrote:
    Ear infections - We have recurrent ear infections in my home. Xander will be seeing a specialist in two weeks to determine if he has any hearing loss and how best to proceed.
    Do they ever go away completely? This one seems like once she got it, it's just not able to clear up all the way, and it keeps flaring up. How long had Xander been suffering from them was it before they referred you to a specialist? I remember you posting a while back about ear tubes and all that, but admittedly, I wasn't paying good attention since that was before Zora got the initial ear infection!
    DarkAngel wrote:
    Marielle is queen with this if you are into natural remedies. The best thing that she recommended to me was garlic mullein oil. I swear this stuff is magical because it calms Xander almost instantly. We also use Hylands ear infection tablets. I believe they help but we only just started using them.
    Marielle rocks! She has given me some great ideas for general immune boosters, but I'll definitely look into the garlic mullein oil as well. I didn't realize Hylands made ear infection tablets, so I'll give those a try.
    DarkAngel wrote:
    For his last ear infections, I also gave him a lot of tylenol and motrin but that was partly to bring down his 105 fever. :(
    Poor guy. It's interesting that you say that. My pediatrician (who I like fine otherwise) is unconvinced that ear infections cause fevers, necessarily. Zora's had one off and on (up past 105 at one point too) this whole time, so I am glad to hear that you've also had the same experience.
    DarkAngel wrote:
    I wouldn't worry too much about the daycare connection. I have been pretty hard on myself about that but many of the moms here say that they have had the same problems with their stay at home babies.
    I actually don't feel bad about the daycare in the least, even though I'm sure that exposure is the source. She's only there 1 1/2 days a week, it's an outstanding facility, and she freaking loves to go there. LOVES. It's way more fun than hanging around the house while Daddy writes his dissertation! :D I have a student who's a SAHM and she tells me her kids get sick constantly. I'm just a little surprised about how lingering this all is. It's like she doesn't get over one thing before she's sick with something new. I have a great immune system and almost never get sick (once they took out my stupid tonsils), so this is just weird.

    Thanks again!

    I'll respond to the other posts separately, because this is long enough!
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  • DarkAngelDarkAngel Posts: 2,671Registered Users
    Xander has not hung on to his ear infections. At least I don't think so. I have a nagging feeling that the recurrences might be the same infection that isn't clearing up. I think the most recent one was 6 or 7 since July. Our doctor wasn't too concerned about the ear infections until this January. Until then, he thought that it was likely just a complication from prematurity that he would outgrow. After back to back infections in January and February, he thought it best that we get in to see a specialist.

    I can't believe your doctor doesn't think fevers go along with ear infections. X has had one with each of his. That's the symptom that gets us into the doctor's office becuase he doesn't tug on his ears or anything.

    The smell of the calendula cream isn't lingering at all. Weleda also has a Calendula cream that has no smell but it doesn't seem to have as good of an effect on his skin. I just slather it all over while concentrating extra hard on his problem spots.

    I really hope Zora gets to feeling better. It's so awful when the babies are sick.
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  • SweetPicklesSweetPickles Posts: 850Registered Users
    DarkAngel wrote:
    Sweetpickles, Xander goes to a babysitter with only a few other children. It's pretty darn ideal for us. I do feel that he is exposed to less germs there but is not living in a bubble. Is a smaller child care situation accessible for you?
    Financially, not really. Unless maybe someone more knowledgeable than me knows a caregiver in Pittsburgh who is right near my house, is trustworthy, experienced, and licensed, and is willing to work for the $5.50/hr. we currently pay. If so, I welcome the reference.

    I wasn't even going to address the first response, but:
    RCW: I am plenty aware, even as inexperienced a parent as I am, of the germy nature of daycare centers. I hardly believe "many" new parents could be oblivious to this. Do I want to send my kid to a place where she's inevitably going to be exposed to bazillions of such germs and risk getting sick repeatedly? Would I prefer to have another realistic choice? Duh. I have said repeatedly here that I would stay home in a MINUTE if I could. But I can't. Not all of us have that option available. It is what it is. I asked for constructive feedback on 2 specific questions/issues related to my own, currently unchangeable circumstances, neither of which your post really addressed.
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  • SweetPicklesSweetPickles Posts: 850Registered Users
    DarkAngel wrote:
    Xander has not hung on to his ear infections. At least I don't think so. I have a nagging feeling that the recurrences might be the same infection that isn't clearing up.
    Maybe I'm just paranoid, but this is the way I was with strep as a kid. My tonsils always had a low-grade infection that never went away, would just flare up 6+ times a year. We're on the second round of antibiotics because the original infection just never went away with the first one. Even after 4 or 5 days on the second one, at the recheck, she still didn't seem like she was recovering like she maybe should have. We're heading into the ped today for a recheck (we finished the antibiotic on Monday). We're seeing a different doc because of the short notice, so it will be good to get another opinion. I just hope she can actually get well enough for it to clear up.
    DarkAngel wrote:
    I can't believe your doctor doesn't think fevers go along with ear infections. X has had one with each of his. That's the symptom that gets us into the doctor's office becuase he doesn't tug on his ears or anything.
    He claims there's no solid research to support it. Me, I'm not buying it one bit. Z tugs on her ears, but she definitely has had a lingering fever.
    DarkAngel wrote:
    The smell of the calendula cream isn't lingering at all. Weleda also has a Calendula cream that has no smell but it doesn't seem to have as good of an effect on his skin. I just slather it all over while concentrating extra hard on his problem spots.
    Good to know! I'll head over to Whole Foods after our doctor's appointment.
    DarkAngel wrote:
    I really hope Zora gets to feeling better. It's so awful when the babies are sick.
    Thanks so much. Seeing my kid, any kid really, in pain is just awful. Especially when there's little that helps. I hope your appointment with the specialist goes well. Keep us updated!
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  • itsjustmeghanitsjustmeghan Posts: 652Registered Users
    owen did the excema thing a lot when he was younger, but i still have to watch it now. i actually use maisty traits (sp?) shampoo as his body wash. sometimes we just rinse really well. with him the sulfates would make it act up something fierce! i also have baths down to 2 days a week. that helps a lot too. oh, and i only condition wash his head. he's got my horridly dry skin, so the less i use washing stuff, the better.
    for ear infections, owen hasn't had any yet. (i just jinxed myself didn't i). i think a lot of it has to do with how their ears are wired. i had them ALL the time when i was little. i didn't do daycare either. just the way my head drained (or didn't) compared to my siblings. they didn't really do tubes when i was little, so we just got through them. some warm towels held on the ear helps the tube open up and drain. eventualy, they grow out of it. i stopped having them all of a sudden. every kid is different.

    as for everything else? you do what you gotta do. no worries.
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  • geekygeeky Posts: 4,995Registered Users
    California Baby rules! Ben had little patches of eczema when he was little and the calendula cream helped, was also great on the cradle cap, which he had on his eyebrows. I like the smell, not too strong, like lavender that you want to eat. I love the whole line of products.
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  • curly_keltiecurly_keltie Posts: 791Registered Users
    While I have no advice for the ear infections and daycare issues (we haven't dealt with them...YET) I can tell you what has worked for Evan and his mild eczema and sensitive skin.

    I use a product called Dermamed on his red patches - inside his knees and elbows. On the rest of his body I use a very basic cream - Glaxal Base - and I mix it with some Glycerine and Rosewater. I'm not sure where you can buy Dermamed - I got it from a friend. You can buy Glycerine and Rosewater in the first aid section at the pharmacy.

    We also live in a very dry climate and the winters are especially bad for people with eczema and dry skin.
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  • mad scientistmad scientist Posts: 3,530Registered Users
    Whole yogurt and sour cream (both with the live cultures) are very good home remedies for battling dry skin/eczema. I put Karan in the tub and slather him with yogurt and let him play around for as long as he's willing and then wash him off with water. Much less outbreaks since we've started doing this.

    We wash him with lukewarm water and use Dove soap. We use Glaxal Base as our cream, but I'm pretty sure that's not available in the US.

    We've got a Rx for 2.5% hydrocortizone but I use it sparingly.
  • rainshowerrainshower Posts: 4,420Registered Users
    shikai's borage lotion keeps our kids' eczema at bay. they both suffer terrible itchy, weepy outbreaks. and the onset of winter with our dry house brought out a bad episode for both of them. their legs, sides, and outer arms.

    this lotion is a dream and has restored their skin tone, softened their skin, and keeps the itchies away.
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  • SweetPicklesSweetPickles Posts: 850Registered Users
    rainshower wrote:
    shikai's borage lotion keeps our kids' eczema at bay. they both suffer terrible itchy, weepy outbreaks. and the onset of winter with our dry house brought out a bad episode for both of them. their legs, sides, and outer arms.

    this lotion is a dream and has restored their skin tone, softened their skin, and keeps the itchies away.
    :( This was the one we've most recently tried. And it doesn't seem to be doing anything useful. I'll probably just use it up myself.

    Thanks everyone for the suggestions!
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  • marielle448marielle448 Posts: 1,823Registered Users
    oddly enough we had an eczema outbreak with Ryan recently. Ian never had those issues and neither did I or my husband but my sister battled it as a kid.

    My ped told me to give him Urtica (homeopathic little pills) for the itching (she's a traditionally trained ped but also uses homeopathic/natural remedies). He was scratching and irritating the heck out of them. She also mentioned an emollient cream and then petroleum jelly at night. I tried the Borage lotion too and at night would add a layer of UnPetroleum jelly which has coconut oil. My hubby would forget the borage lotion and we soon realized that the unpetroleum stuff was doing the trick on its own.

    Also as far as preventing them you want to lube the kid from the inside out. Flax seed oil or Cod Liver oil (I prefer the nordic naturals, no heavy metals, no fishy taste and both kids drink it straight, including me). Ryan hadn't been taking it but as soon as I started him on it (he gets half a teaspoon) his irritation on his legs is almost gone and the patches on his trunk have dissappeared completely). The cod liver oil is also a great immune enhancer in general and a mood leveler for adults (I take two teaspoons a day, I give Ian one teaspoon).

    I just placed an order from Mountain Rose Herbals for two things I want under my belt at all times. One is a healthy kid wellness tea. It's mild, yummy and a great one-cup-a-day in the evening immune booster as well as calming tea. The other is a cold & flu syrup concoction from the herbal kid book. Chock full of herbs to fight the illness and move the congestion out as well as boost the immune system. I've done the infusions before but the syrup will allow me to cater to the picky drinker in the house (my husband LOL!) as you only need a teaspoon or two and it's sweetened with honey, plus the syrup keeps for 2 months in the fridge and you have it ready whenever it's needed.

    madscientist that cutlure trick sounds fabulous. Definitely something to keep in mind.
  • rainshowerrainshower Posts: 4,420Registered Users
    try this also, then.

    reduce the number of baths they get a week. this also made a great difference in the quality of our kids' skin.

    over-cleansing can promote dry skin, which aggravates eczema.

    instead of nightly baths/showers, opt for baths every other night, while at the same time, alternating the use of soap with every other bath that they take. plain warm water and a soft bath cloth are quite effective in getting kids clean.

    soap, no matter how moisturizing, rids skin of natural oils, which is what dry skin needs to keep it supple. so use soap on them in moderation.

    we simply do wash-ups at the sink on no-bath nights, washing the hot spots, applying lotion to their skin, and tucking them in bed.

    i don't know if you've considered this, but try to observe if anything they are eating could be triggering their rash outbreaks, like certain fruits, or starches, or dairy.

    i've recently discovered that chocolate triggers my eczema. within a few hours of eating it, the patch on my leg begins to itch. i had to experiment several times to make sure it wasn't a coincidence. it happened like clockwork too many times. so as hard as it is, i have to stay away from it or pay the price of itchy, cracked skin.
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    I wasn't even going to address the first response, but:
    RCW: I am plenty aware, even as inexperienced a parent as I am, of the germy nature of daycare centers. I hardly believe "many" new parents could be oblivious to this. Do I want to send my kid to a place where she's inevitably going to be exposed to bazillions of such germs and risk getting sick repeatedly? Would I prefer to have another realistic choice? Duh. I have said repeatedly here that I would stay home in a MINUTE if I could. But I can't. Not all of us have that option available. It is what it is. I asked for constructive feedback on 2 specific questions/issues related to my own, currently unchangeable circumstances, neither of which your post really addressed.


    I did address it...the best way to avoid ear infections is to avoid the common cold which ear infections generally follow, and the best way to avoid colds is to avoid germs, and for little kids, that means avoiding large groups of sick children. If it can't be avoided, then the usual next steps seem to be doctor visits, antibiotics and ear tubes.
  • marielle448marielle448 Posts: 1,823Registered Users
    I wasn't even going to address the first response, but:
    RCW: I am plenty aware, even as inexperienced a parent as I am, of the germy nature of daycare centers. I hardly believe "many" new parents could be oblivious to this. Do I want to send my kid to a place where she's inevitably going to be exposed to bazillions of such germs and risk getting sick repeatedly? Would I prefer to have another realistic choice? Duh. I have said repeatedly here that I would stay home in a MINUTE if I could. But I can't. Not all of us have that option available. It is what it is. I asked for constructive feedback on 2 specific questions/issues related to my own, currently unchangeable circumstances, neither of which your post really addressed.


    I did address it...the best way to avoid ear infections is to avoid the common cold which ear infections generally follow, and the best way to avoid colds is to avoid germs, and for little kids, that means avoiding large groups of sick children. If it can't be avoided, then the usual next steps seem to be doctor visits, antibiotics and ear tubes.




    Actually there can be a solution between both extremes you've posted in natural medicine as well as nontraditional therapies which I think is what SP was asking about.
  • curly_keltiecurly_keltie Posts: 791Registered Users
    Whole yogurt and sour cream (both with the live cultures) are very good home remedies for battling dry skin/eczema. I put Karan in the tub and slather him with yogurt and let him play around for as long as he's willing and then wash him off with water. Much less outbreaks since we've started doing this.

    We wash him with lukewarm water and use Dove soap. We use Glaxal Base as our cream, but I'm pretty sure that's not available in the US.

    We've got a Rx for 2.5% hydrocortizone but I use it sparingly.

    And I bet he just LOVES playing around in the mess. I will definitely give that a try when Evan can sit up by himself for longer periods of time.
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  • rainshowerrainshower Posts: 4,420Registered Users
    I did address it...the best way to avoid ear infections is to avoid the common cold which ear infections generally follow, and the best way to avoid colds is to avoid germs, and for little kids, that means avoiding large groups of sick children. If it can't be avoided, then the usual next steps seem to be doctor visits, antibiotics and ear tubes.

    you wrote: You could try just building the immune system through diet...lots of Vitamin-C-rich foods daily.

    i think the bold advice that you gave was more in line to the suggestions, advice, and support she was asking for in her initial post.

    you padded a lot of your response with an undertone of "advocacy for mothers staying at home with their kids," and that's not what she wanted or needed.

    it may not have been your intention to come across that way . . . . but your reply did render that air nonetheless.
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  • ZinniaZinnia Posts: 7,339Registered Users
    poor Z...:(

    hopefully, she will get better soon.
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  • mad scientistmad scientist Posts: 3,530Registered Users
    Whole yogurt and sour cream (both with the live cultures) are very good home remedies for battling dry skin/eczema. I put Karan in the tub and slather him with yogurt and let him play around for as long as he's willing and then wash him off with water. Much less outbreaks since we've started doing this.

    We wash him with lukewarm water and use Dove soap. We use Glaxal Base as our cream, but I'm pretty sure that's not available in the US.

    We've got a Rx for 2.5% hydrocortizone but I use it sparingly.

    And I bet he just LOVES playing around in the mess. I will definitely give that a try when Evan can sit up by himself for longer periods of time.

    He liked eating the yogurt a little too much, so we switched over to sour cream. Thankfully, he doesn't have a taste for that.

    I seriously can't believe how soft and shiny his skin (and curls, btw) are since we've started doing this. Its so nice to see soft baby skin without scratch marks all over it.
  • SweetPicklesSweetPickles Posts: 850Registered Users
    Thanks for all your responses. The update isn't good. She's now a week into the 3rd round of antibiotics, and we thought she'd been doing better. But she woke up screaming in pain last night and is pulling on both her ears something fierce this morning. She doesn't have a fever. We can't figure out how, after a week on this one (and weeks on the others), this could suddenly just start bothering her again like this. She really had been doing better and had a few restful nights. I really think this is the same infection that just won't clear up, not repeated ones. She is, at least, FINALLY not showing any cold/cough/sniffle symptoms, for the first time in months.
    Actually there can be a solution between both extremes you've posted in natural medicine as well as nontraditional therapies which I think is what SP was asking about.
    That's exactly right Marielle! My first inclination with anything I don't know is to research the heck out of it. But the information I find on this problem is contradictory, confusing, conflicted. I know our next step will be to head to a specialist, which is fine. But I'm not ready to just go ahead with ear tubes yet. I'm not even sure how I feel about those anyway. The opinions vary widely and they feel a little like a "last resort" kind of option to me. I did buy some herbs, and we could do some food trials to see if there any food sensitivities that might be contributing. But honestly, I am not sure I want to try any of that stuff till she's over this thing, so we know *what* part of the equation is working if something does actually work. I'm a little uncomfortable trying random supplements without really knowing what I'm doing, too. I am thinking about making an appointment with a naturopathic doctor, in addition to seeing the ENT as I'm sure we'll be asked to do.

    Oh and my Whole Foods doesn't carry the California Baby Calendula Cream, so we're trying the Weleda one and it's not doing squat. Plus it stinks (I HATE the scent of lavender). With 2 dogs who have severe food sensititivities, I just keep wondering if there's something going on that's causing both these issues. But she's just not eating anything new/different/allergenic. Even the stuff she gets at daycare isn't.

    Argh. This is all so frustrating. And it just kills me to see her suffering.
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  • DarkAngelDarkAngel Posts: 2,671Registered Users
    Sweetpickles, can I post crash and talk about me? Xander has his third freaking ear infection since mid-January. I'm on board with you know in thinking that this is the same infection that can't go away. Hie temp was over 104 this morning.

    Why are our babies being tortured like this? I hope Zora's latest round of antibiotics does the trick for her. With Spring coming up, maybe that will help both of these little people.

    Thankfully, we will see the ENT on Tuesday. He will also get his hearing tested and I know he has suffered hearing loss from all of this. Oh well, at least we will know and can work on it. I was iffy about tubes before. Now, I will put them in myself if it will get us off of this cycle of ear infections.


    You can order CB online or I can pick some up and send it you. Just PM me if you want me to. I promise I am not a psycho. I've also seen it in Target recently but it's kind of hit or miss.
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  • SweetPicklesSweetPickles Posts: 850Registered Users
    DarkAngel wrote:
    Sweetpickles, can I post crash and talk about me? Xander has his third freaking ear infection since mid-January. I'm on board with you know in thinking that this is the same infection that can't go away. Hie temp was over 104 this morning.

    Why are our babies being tortured like this? I hope Zora's latest round of antibiotics does the trick for her. With Spring coming up, maybe that will help both of these little people.

    Thankfully, we will see the ENT on Tuesday. He will also get his hearing tested and I know he has suffered hearing loss from all of this. Oh well, at least we will know and can work on it. I was iffy about tubes before. Now, I will put them in myself if it will get us off of this cycle of ear infections.

    You can order CB online or I can pick some up and send it you. Just PM me if you want me to. I promise I am not a psycho. I've also seen it in Target recently but it's kind of hit or miss.
    Crash & vent all you like! I am so sorry you're both going through this! I don't know how you've done it as long as you have. I hope all goes well with the ENT and that both Xander and you get some relief soon. I also hope the results of the hearing tests are okay (more than okay!).

    After faking work all morning and doing exhaustive research, I am growing ever more suspicious that there's some larger, systemic issue going on, that a lot of Z's problems may have to do with some dairy sensitivities (allergy, or one of the types of intolerance, who knows). She's got a host of other things that have cropped up recently besides the ear infections and eczema, symptoms that can be related to that. It just all feels like too much to be purely *coincidental.* Her dairy intake has definitely increased substantially over the last couple of months. Not to mention I'm lactose intolerant myself. I guess we'll be getting to do some food trials right alongside the ones the doggles are currently involved in. They're all going to be pretty mad that no one gets to eat anything good for a while! Ear infection "season" is supposedly peaking right about now. I hope that a change in weather helps somehow too.

    Thanks for the offer to send along the CB stuff. That's very sweet! I just may take you up on that offer. Target here recently started carrying a whole bunch of CB products, but not that one. I'm going to try calling my co-op to see if they have it or can order it.

    Hope little Xander is feeling better soon. Keep us updated!
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  • SweetPicklesSweetPickles Posts: 850Registered Users
    Another update:

    Z's at the pediatrician this afternoon because she's been barfing every 5 minutes. BUT, they think the antibiotic is doing some good this time and it's clearing up. Unfortunately, she's going to have to get a shot of it, since she's still got three days left and will just throw it up. So keep your fingers crossed that this is the one that works...

    And interestingly, this other doctor (who we've not seen before) thinks her skin issues are not actually eczema, but rather something viral.
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  • deedlesdeedles Posts: 2,466Registered Users
    Hey SP,

    Crossing Fingers for you!! Liam is in the same boat as the rest of you!! He's had ongoing ear infections and fluid in the ears.. The pediatrician (I swear I see them so often I should just rent a damn exam room) said he wants to see him in 3 weeks and if there is no improvement it may be time for tubes...

    I think he's kinda young. but we shall see.. right now the main problem is post nasal drip.. he's on Zyrtec at night only which helps him sleep thru the night and not cough. I have a misty humidifier blowing on him (which I wonder do you think that's preventing the ear infections from clearing up?)

    I just want my son to be healthy.. and I hope all of you munchkins get better soon!!

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  • M2LRM2LR Posts: 8,630Registered Users
    Just a suggestion about the dairy; we have had to switch Em to soy instead of whole cow's milk. She had some exema that went away with the use of some Eucerine lotion, but it returned. She had a cout of ear infections the end of January and into Feb...an infection in the right ear healed, then turned into a double ear infection. She was on anti-biotics for a month. Then since her tummy was all screwed up because of the antibiotics, she got the stomach flu. Got better, went back to school and got the stomach flu again.
    Then has had SEVERE constipation. So...

    To make a long story short, we went from whoel cow's milk to soy and her tummy and excema are both improving...and she's not coughing as much at night. We'd put her to bed and it would sound like she was just hacking up TONS of mucus or something...all of that had stopped since we cut out the whole milk. She does get some cheese, and we do give her yogurt every day (YoBaby).

    GL.

    I think that watching what she eats, and maybe even giving her some viatmins might help, but check with your doctor.

    Another thing; Em was getting a slight ear infection, or ear inflamation (not enough to be infected, but redness and some pain) EVERY time a tooth came in. We were pretty much expecting a visit to the doctor every time we saw a tooth getting ready to pop through.

    She's in a full time larger day care. We did have home care lined up. However, home care does have it's down sides. She woudl close and wouldn't tell anyone until you arrived to drop your kid off, "Oh, sorry, I am closed today, all of the other kids are on vacation." Or, "I am sick, I can't watch anyone today..." Nice. Since she was home care, many parents also figured it was easier to leave a sick kid there (one had diarreah for WEEKS on end, because the mom kept bringing him in, so, my son in turn had weeks of diarreah as well). So, we are paying a LOT more for the full time care in the larger center; but we also get a daily detailed sheet of how much she ate, when she ate, when she was wet, when she had a BM, when she slept, and anyting else they want to note.
    The home care did NOT do this.
    OH! And when I was returning back to work after having Em, the home care lady called me ONE MONTH before I was going back to say that she decided to no longer watch infants. Yeah, thanks a lot. I called around and most of the schools/day care's waiting lists were ONE YEAR for infant care. I was very fortunate to find one 5 minutes from hubbys' work that had ONE opening.
    So, could be that my home care lady just sucked ass, but from whatn I have heard from my friends, some of the home care centers figure that they can "get away" with more, as they don't really get evaluated unless someone complains.

    at any rate, does Z have a 15 month well baby coming up? I would discuss things with the doctor about her ears, foods, vitamins, etc.

    GL and ((hugs)).
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  • curly_keltiecurly_keltie Posts: 791Registered Users
    Whole yogurt and sour cream (both with the live cultures) are very good home remedies for battling dry skin/eczema. I put Karan in the tub and slather him with yogurt and let him play around for as long as he's willing and then wash him off with water. Much less outbreaks since we've started doing this.

    We wash him with lukewarm water and use Dove soap. We use Glaxal Base as our cream, but I'm pretty sure that's not available in the US.

    We've got a Rx for 2.5% hydrocortizone but I use it sparingly.

    And I bet he just LOVES playing around in the mess. I will definitely give that a try when Evan can sit up by himself for longer periods of time.

    He liked eating the yogurt a little too much, so we switched over to sour cream. Thankfully, he doesn't have a taste for that.

    I seriously can't believe how soft and shiny his skin (and curls, btw) are since we've started doing this. Its so nice to see soft baby skin without scratch marks all over it.

    you just described my little guy's skin. He scratches himself a lot - I may try this sooner than later.
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