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Eilonwy, did you post that multiple personality disorder is no longer diagnosed?

The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
It's no longer considered an actual condition?
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  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,495Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    it's no longer called that. It's now caused Disociative ID Disorder

  • Fifi.GFifi.G Posts: 15,490Registered Users
    You might be thinking of all the proposals to change some personality disorders in the DSM. Dropping 5 disorders was considered for a few years, but there was great opposition and they decided to keep them. Part of the debate was it's perfectly normal and even healthy for people to show mild or moderate levels of *some* of these disorders, but it's the over the top presentation that really needs to be worried about. People were most concerned with Narcissistic Personality Disorder being dropped. Some said it is so common now, it should no longer be considered a disorder. Studies have shown levels of narcissism increasing with every generation, and being highly present in those who have had several years in the world of social media. Some claimed it was a good thing, others argued it was an infantile narcissism that would grow into something much worse, and leave many without help. Severe NPD (Hitler is a good example of that) is also linked with several other disorders.

    They chose to switch the categories around a bit, but kept the disorders. Here is a comment about the change


    The good news is that none of the criteria for personality disorders have changed in the DSM-5. While several proposed revisions were drafted that would have significantly changed the method by which individuals with these disorders are diagnosed, the American Psychiatric Association Board of Trustees ultimately decided to retain the DSM-IV categorical approach with the same 10 personality disorders.

    A new hybrid personality model was introduced in the DSM-5′s Section III (disorders requiring further study) that included evaluation of impairments in personality functioning (how an individual typically experiences himself or herself as well as others) plus five broad areas of pathological personality traits. In the new proposed model, clinicians would assess personality and diagnose a personality disorder based on an individual’s particular difficulties in personality functioning and on specific patterns of those pathological traits.

    The hybrid methodology retains six personality disorder types:

    Borderline Personality Disorder
    Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder
    Avoidant Personality Disorder
    Schizotypal Personality Disorder
    Antisocial Personality Disorder
    Narcissistic Personality Disorder

    Antisocial behavior is another that some believe the interweb is feeding.
    When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

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  • hairhealthhairhealth Posts: 90Registered Users
    As social media becomes more prevalent, people will be more withdrawn. Even those not naturally introvert.

    There are Millions of INDIVIDUALS with countless emotions.

    It will be hard to NOT misdiagnose and worse, hope a pill or cocktail of pills can "cure" millions of original brains similarly.

    How can you decipher between a kid who gets bussed from the projects to an affluent imdependent school right at the peak of teen development versus a truly sick individual whose illness runs deeper than exterior stimuli.

    Maybe one day ARL can tackle this, but in the interim we are f***ed.

    No degree will contain enough class hour credits to make a psychiatrist or psychologist that proficient...
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  • Fifi.GFifi.G Posts: 15,490Registered Users
    hairhealth wrote: »
    As social media becomes more prevalent, people will be more withdrawn. Even those not naturally introvert.

    There are Millions of INDIVIDUALS with countless emotions.

    It will be hard to NOT misdiagnose and worse, hope a pill or cocktail of pills can "cure" millions of original brains similarly.

    How can you decipher between a kid who gets bussed from the projects to an affluent imdependent school right at the peak of teen development versus a truly sick individual whose illness runs deeper than exterior stimuli.

    Maybe one day ARL can tackle this, but in the interim we are f***ed.

    No degree will contain enough class hour credits to make a psychiatrist or psychologist that proficient...

    I took any and every psych class I could get my hands on, 18-19 years ago, for fun. I found it interesting when I came across all the debates about dropping or changing these particular disorders. Well, I came across several misinformed articles at first saying they had already been dropped and read the comments from numerous people who were not pleased. It threw me for a loop as well because I can remember covering how many of those PD's were connected, in the more serious/extreme cases.

    I saw valid points on both sides of the argument.

    I do agree with you, and many others, about social media making people more withdrawn. I think it brings about more avoidant and antisocial behavior. Not necessarily the evils of antisocial disorder, but behavior. When it comes to NPD, I think the most about bullies who do not give a second thought to the person they are hurting and act as Kings and Queens of their virtual domain. We all know several of those situations have resulted in death. It provides a disconnect. You don't have to look the person in the eyes, hear their voice, or think of cause and effect.
    When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

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  • Fifi.GFifi.G Posts: 15,490Registered Users
    ^ You can see Antisocial PD with that too.

    Do they still use paranoid personality disorder? Excessive sensitivity, suspicions, often misconstruing friendly or neutral actions of others to hostile or contemptuous, etc. That's about all I remember but I've not heard that one said in some time.

    Guess I can google. :)

    Yep. Listed a bit differently now

    Paranoid personality disorder is a mental health condition in which a person has a long-term pattern of distrust and suspicion of others, but does not have a full-blown psychotic disorder such as schizophrenia.

    Persons with paranoid personality disorder are very suspicious of other people. As a result, they severely limit their social lives. They often feel that they are in danger and look for evidence to support their suspicions. They have trouble seeing that their distrustfulness is out of proportion to their environment.

    Common symptoms include:

    Concern that other people have hidden motives
    Expectation that they will be exploited (used) by others
    Inability to work together with others
    Social isolation
    Detachment
    Hostility

    Wonder if it's still more common in men. It seems many of the old standards seen as common in men have now been surpassed by women.

    Sorry for the sidetrack. I was just curious. I was recently thinking about that being promoted by different environmental elements.
    When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

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  • EilonwyEilonwy Posts: 12,389Registered Users
    It's no longer considered an actual condition?
    I think I remember the post you're talking about. It's from years ago, right?

    My understanding is that the existence of DID is very controversial, and if it does exist, it's extremely rare and very different from Sybil. At the time of that post, it was unknown whether the disorder would appear in the DSM 5.
  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    Eilonwy wrote: »
    It's no longer considered an actual condition?
    I think I remember the post you're talking about. It's from years ago, right?

    My understanding is that the existence of DID is very controversial, and if it does exist, it's extremely rare and very different from Sybil. At the time of that post, it was unknown whether the disorder would appear in the DSM 5.
    Yes, it may've been years ago. Thanks!

    Thanks everyone!
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    I am the new Black.

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  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,495Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    There was a lot of confusion btwn schizophrenia and MPD. PPl often used the two terms interchangeably but the two conditions were not the same.

  • Fifi.GFifi.G Posts: 15,490Registered Users
    Eilonwy wrote: »
    It's no longer considered an actual condition?
    I think I remember the post you're talking about. It's from years ago, right?

    My understanding is that the existence of DID is very controversial, and if it does exist, it's extremely rare and very different from Sybil. At the time of that post, it was unknown whether the disorder would appear in the DSM 5.

    I think the DSM 5 was put on this earth to confuse people. I have never seen so much controversy over a diagnostic, statistic, and disorder manual. There were several online meltdowns during the update/anticipation process.
    When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]