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gel only styling works better? What is my porosity?

etosetos Posts: 221Registered Users
Hi curlies!

when I first started CG, my hair was in really bad shape. It was severely bleached damaged. It was very dry and frizzy and I used a lot of leave-in conditioner after my RO, what really helped. I had the feeling my hair needed a lot of moisture.

But recently I started to notice, my hair looks acutally better when I only put gel in it. The leave/in and oil weights my hair down. I can also use a lot more proteïn lately whitout dryness. Does that mean my porosity has chainged? How do you know your hair is normal porosity?

ps: I did do the float test multiple times, but my hair always floated on top, even when I was shure my hair was severely damaged.
highlighted 3a hair. Fine strands, medium to high density. Probably high porosity. Growing uit bad layering and aiming for waist lenght!

Pre-poo: coconut oil
wash: CJ Daily fix or SheaMoisture Coconut&Hibiscus
RO + LI: different every time
Styler: CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB

dislikes: glycerin in low dews, scissor happy stylists, magnesium sulfate

(modified) CG since june 25, 2012
Hiarfinity + extra MSM since March 5., 2014

SL - APL - BSBL- BSL - MBL - WL (stretched)

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  • etosetos Posts: 221Registered Users
    By the way, my hair does get frizzy when I sweat a lot. Is that a sign of high porosity?
    highlighted 3a hair. Fine strands, medium to high density. Probably high porosity. Growing uit bad layering and aiming for waist lenght!

    Pre-poo: coconut oil
    wash: CJ Daily fix or SheaMoisture Coconut&Hibiscus
    RO + LI: different every time
    Styler: CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB

    dislikes: glycerin in low dews, scissor happy stylists, magnesium sulfate

    (modified) CG since june 25, 2012
    Hiarfinity + extra MSM since March 5., 2014

    SL - APL - BSBL- BSL - MBL - WL (stretched)
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    Float test is nonsense science, it is likely your porosity has reduced if you no longer bleach. Better to look at how your hair behaves or to have a hair analysis from Goosefootprints on Etsy or Komaza Care.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • etosetos Posts: 221Registered Users
    Float test is nonsense science, it is likely your porosity has reduced if you no longer bleach. Better to look at how your hair behaves or to have a hair analysis from Goosefootprints on Etsy or Komaza Care.

    I do bleach, but much 'better' now. I used to do it at home, every 4 weeks, including putting bleach on the already-bleached hair. Now I have highlights, and I let them do by my stylist, 3 or 4 times a year. She said she only bleach the virgin hair.

    I would love to have a hair analysis, but in live in the Netherlands (europe)!
    highlighted 3a hair. Fine strands, medium to high density. Probably high porosity. Growing uit bad layering and aiming for waist lenght!

    Pre-poo: coconut oil
    wash: CJ Daily fix or SheaMoisture Coconut&Hibiscus
    RO + LI: different every time
    Styler: CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB

    dislikes: glycerin in low dews, scissor happy stylists, magnesium sulfate

    (modified) CG since june 25, 2012
    Hiarfinity + extra MSM since March 5., 2014

    SL - APL - BSBL- BSL - MBL - WL (stretched)
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    You can mail your hair sample from Europe to the US, it's not like hair is heavy or bulky.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • sKorpio1190sKorpio1190 Posts: 1,862Registered Users
    I only use one product in my hair to style as well. Any more and my hair gets super weighed down and flatter than usual
    Medium texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity :shock:
  • sKorpio1190sKorpio1190 Posts: 1,862Registered Users
    Oh and I have normal porosity. I learned that from the live curly live free hair analysis
    Medium texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity :shock:
  • okyouwinokyouwin Posts: 157Registered Users
    My hair looks better with a gel and no leave in. I can't leave a bunch of products in my hair or it will look limp and greasy. I say do what makes your hair look good!
    I'm going to go ahead and say 3a
    fine/medium texture and a bit porous-I color
    Spring routine: Renpure luxurious argan oil shampoo/Loreal Advanced Care Color conditioner , HETT gel
    Microfiber towel/diffuse
    Trying KKCC
  • FlemishCurvesFlemishCurves Posts: 52Registered Users
    etos wrote: »
    I would love to have a hair analysis, but in live in the Netherlands (europe)!

    I live in Belgium and I did Goosefootprints without problems. Ordered through Etsy, sending my samples to the US in a fortified enveloppe cost €4.15. The enveloppe cost €1. I sent it half November, got my analysis results December 15th. If you're holding purely because you're in Europe, don't. It's totally worth it and Wendy is very helpful, thorough and nice. Seriously, my hair has improved so much in less than a month after getting my results back.

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    What a hairdresser once said 'behind my back': Her curls are like owning a Ferrari but not knowing how to drive it.

    What I should have answered: Me letting you cut my hair is like owning a Ferrari but letting a 15-year-old who takes autoshop do the maintenance.
  • BeautyOGBeautyOG Posts: 383Registered Users
    "Hi curlies!

    when I first started CG, my hair was in really bad shape. It was severely bleached damaged. It was very dry and frizzy and I used a lot of leave-in conditioner after my RO, what really helped. I had the feeling my hair needed a lot of moisture.

    But recently I started to notice, my hair looks acutally better when I only put gel in it. The leave/in and oil weights my hair down. I can also use a lot more proteïn lately whitout dryness. Does that mean my porosity has chainged? How do you know your hair is normal porosity?

    ps: I did do the float test multiple times, but my hair always floated on top, even when I was shure my hair was severely damaged."

    I was the same way.
    I have dense, 3b, hair. When I first started going natural, my hair was dry and frizzy. I used a LOT of leave in and oil. After about 2 or three months my hair didn't need as much moisture as it did previously
    I say all this to say, your hair was very dry; like when you are thirsty, you drink water and afterwards you feel refreshed; same goes for your hair. Your hair was "dehydrated" and you gave it something to "drink".

    As for hair porosity, considering what I just said, your hair probably won't need as much moisture.
    You know your hair. Listen to it.

    Sent from my QMV7B using CurlTalk App
    My Hair:
    3b - Low Porosity - High Density - Medium/Course Strands - Virgin Hair - Armpit Length, Curly


    Current Products:
    DIY Shampoo
    Tresemme Aloe Conditioner
    It's a 10 Leave In
    Sweet Almond Oil
    Tresemme Mousse

    Current Length Goal: Waist Length, Curly

  • caramix3acaramix3a Posts: 460Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I'm a gel-only for styling too. I have 2c-3a color-treated(but NOT bleached)hair, very dense, fine to medium in texture. Too many products "cocktailed" just leave my hair a dull, limp mess IMO.
  • sixelamysixelamy Posts: 4,156Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    If you have color treated hair, you probably don't have low porosity. I have high porosity on my ends, normal in the middle, and low on my roots (which I believe a lot of people probably have as well) and too many products weighed me down when I had super hard water. Now I have soft water and I can use 3x as much product and it looks great. I really believe water quality makes a difference, as well as ingredients in products, and how much you use of them. If gel only works for you, by a means do what works. Just make sure there aren't any drying alcohols, and you may want to deep condition regularly if you aren't using a leave in.

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using CurlTalk App
    2c-3a - med-coarse - normal-high porosity - high density
    :bunny:
    NP/LP: CJ Daily Fix, KMF Whenever / Giovanni TTTT
    RO/LI: Aussie Moist, CJ Argan & Olive Oil, Hask Keratin Protein
    DC/PROTEIN: KC Stellar Strands / CNPF
    STYLER: CJ Curl Queen
    COLOR: henna, amla & indigo
    :thumbdown:: glycerin in high/low dews, polyquat-10 & 11, parabens