Heat damage shame! :(

LeleyLeley Posts: 41Registered Users
Hi everyone!
Here we go...
I used to have beautiful long curly hair with ringlets and everything!
I gave in and started straighting my hair when I started college.
now in left with straight hair! I put some moose through my hair and its going wavy but the ends are hard to curl.
I've decided im going to get as much as the ends cut off as I can without going to short. I'm stopping all heat. This is my 3rd day of no heat! I'm going to deep condition one a week.
any other advice or tips would be awesome as I really want my curly hair back! :)
Love and Light
L x

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  • BluebloodBlueblood Posts: 1,748Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Hi there!

    Unfortunately I don't have any good news to tell you with your hair in it's current condition except that cutting it is the way to go.

    I suggest you read up on non-sulphate shampoos, conditioners and deep conditioners, and what ingredients you should avoid - the main site has lots of information. Then go and buy the cheapest from a drugstore.

    The reason being is until your curls start coming through you won't known what you have to deal with and may end up using different products later.
  • LeleyLeley Posts: 41Registered Users
    thank you for replying!
    Gosh I knew this was going to be a long process.
    So in doing the right thing getting a haircut and going on from their.
    I guess in worried my curls wont come back at all :(
    please tell me they will lol
  • lori.mattoxlori.mattox Posts: 210Registered Users
    I can't promise curls will come back, but in doing research on heat damage after straightening I keep finding suggestions to do protein treatments as any kind of damage increases hair porosity. I don't know this for sure, as I've been too afraid to use heat on my hair after doing my research about heat damage.

    I would definitely do some research on your own, and also just try to keep your hair as moisturized as possible, and as protected as possible. What I mean by protected is try different braids, buns, twist-type braids, etc so that your ends aren't as exposed to dry winter air. Until then, you might google videos on youtube to learn how to do things like bantu knots, perm rod sets, pin curls, or roller sets to have some curl while you wait. All of those things can be done without heat, so it's a great alternative. Hope that helps!
    3C/4A Fine texture, low porosity, low/medium density? Trying CG since Dec. 2013
    Shampoo: Curl's Creamy Curl Cleanser or clarifying shampoo when needed.
    Co-wash: Curl's coconut curlada
    Deep Condition: Experimenting in the kitchen
    oil: flaxseed and coconut for treatments
    Styler: Tresemme conditioner, alone or mixed together with aloe vera gel
    Sealer: aloe vera juice
  • LeleyLeley Posts: 41Registered Users
    wow thanks Lori!
    I've did some research and your right about the protean treatment. That seems to be the way to go as well as deep conditioning. I'm going to give it a go and see how I get on.
  • Morgan_AdcockMorgan_Adcock Posts: 2,573Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I don't know if you've found this information yet, but in case you haven't, two cheap items which should be available in any grocery store would be very helpful to you. The first is gelatin, with which you can make an extremely effective protein treatment, IAgirl's Gelatin Protein Treatment. The other is coconut oil, which makes a great deep treatment.

    I would also recommend your getting a copy of Curly Girl: The Handbook, also available at Amazon,
    Peace,
    Morgan

    Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
    CGing since July 2008
  • sixelamysixelamy Posts: 4,157Registered Users Curl Novice
    I had the same problem a while back. The only way I got my hair healthy was cutting off my straw-like damaged ends, keep getting trims every month to month and a half (my hair grows super fast), ditch the sulfates, deep condition and protein treatments. It took me a good year to get to a healthy state where most of my ends are grown out. I had heat and color/bleach damage. It will take a while, so don't expect miracles in a week. Staying away from the heat and using the advice of these awesome curlies, and you'll be on your way to healthy curls... in time.
    2c-3a - med-coarse - normal-high porosity - high density
    :bunny:
    NP/LP: CJ Daily Fix, KMF Whenever / Giovanni TTTT
    RO/LI: Aussie Moist, CJ Argan & Olive Oil, Hask Keratin Protein
    DC/PROTEIN: KC Stellar Strands / CNPF
    STYLER: CJ Curl Queen
    COLOR: henna, amla & indigo
    :thumbdown:: glycerin in high/low dews, polyquat-10 & 11, parabens
  • LeleyLeley Posts: 41Registered Users
    ladies thanks so much for replying.
    I got my hair cut on Thursday.
    my hair has got more wavey as a result of alittle trim. So that's positive right?!
    im currently sitting here with a shower cap on and raw egg in my hair for a protein boost. Then im going to deep conditon. Tomorrow will be a whole week that I've not used heat on my hair so its a start! I'm trying to not get discouraged and go back to the straightners!
    thanks for the support :)
  • LeleyLeley Posts: 41Registered Users
    I forgot to ask I bought cocanut oil solid form but it melts in my hands can I use this as a deep conditioner?! Thanks in advance!
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Egg is not a protein treatment since the proteins are too large to penetrate, the yolk is more if a lipid treatment. You want a hydrolysed protein to patch repair damage - a commercial product or gelatin.

    Coconut oil is an effective deep treatment on dry hair and is proven to penetrate, reducing porosity, increasing elasticity and reducing structural protein loss when washing. It is not a conditioner, a true conditioner is rich in the major emollients (fatty alcohols and cationic surfactants) and would be used on clean wet or damp hair.

    Other beneficial ingredients for damaged hair include ceramides, 18-MEA and panthenol.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • KorkscrewKorkscrew Posts: 1,834Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    You just got really good advice.

    Something small to add: Not trying to nag you like a mom would, but I just wanna remind you to be kind to yourself as you work to fix this. It's OK that your hair right now doesn't look perfect. Many of us at one time or other have abused or damaged our hair (I sure have several times heh). It's great that you're letting up on the heat. Your hair will look better than ever soon because you've already started to pamper it and you're getting trims. Good for you :occasion5:
  • LeleyLeley Posts: 41Registered Users
    thanks again ladies. I'm glad in taking positive steps to looking after my hair.
    All the advice is great and I really appreciate it
  • CurlieCooCurlieCoo Posts: 38Registered Users
    Egg, ugh! Many years ago I tried an egg treatment - and left it on too long or something because I smelled like rotten egg afterwards, even after washing, conditioning, washing, crying, washing, laughing hysterically, washing... well you get the picture. ;)


    On the flip side, I love coconut oil and highly recommend it. Another benefit is you can leave it on their for hours and smell like nothing worse than a pina colada. :)
    #1 Recommendation: "Search NaturallyCurly" search function for great info:smilebox:
    ~2C/3A~ Density-High Porosity-High Texture-Medium Climate-HIGH humidity Water-Hard well
    Low-poo: Nature's Gate Tea-Tree Cond: Suave Naturals, Organic Coconut Oil Leave-in: KCKT Styling: KCSS, KCCC, Dr. Bronner's Organic Hair Creme
  • Morgan_AdcockMorgan_Adcock Posts: 2,573Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Just let the coconut oil melt in your hands, as you've noticed that it does, then apply it to your dry hair.
    Peace,
    Morgan

    Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
    CGing since July 2008
  • LeleyLeley Posts: 41Registered Users
    thank you Morgan can I apply it to wet hair too can I leave it in my hair without washing it out? Sorry for all the Qs in new to all this
  • BluebloodBlueblood Posts: 1,748Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Leley wrote: »
    thank you Morgan can I apply it to wet hair too can I leave it in my hair without washing it out? Sorry for all the Qs in new to all this

    It's better to use coconut oil on dry hair and leave it in for a minimum of 8 hours.

    Buy a satin scarf or bonnet. Put the coconut oil in you hair overnight and cover with the scarf/bonnet. In the morning co-wash or low poo your hair then condition and style as normal.

    Using a scarf or bonnet will protect the skin on your face from the oil in case of breakouts.
  • LeleyLeley Posts: 41Registered Users
    Blueblood wrote: »
    Leley wrote: »
    thank you Morgan can I apply it to wet hair too can I leave it in my hair without washing it out? Sorry for all the Qs in new to all this

    It's better to use coconut oil on dry hair and leave it in for a minimum of 8 hours.

    Buy a satin scarf or bonnet. Put the coconut oil in you hair overnight and cover with the scarf/bonnet. In the morning co-wash or low poo your hair then condition and style as normal.

    Using a scarf or bonnet will protect the skin on your face from the oil in case of breakouts.
    Thanks for the advice I will need to try this treatment over night and see how I get on :)
  • lori.mattoxlori.mattox Posts: 210Registered Users
    I absolutely loved coconut oil done as an overnight treatment before shampooing!!! I added a plastic cap under my scarf so that my body heat would help my low porosity hair absorb it better and just in case my scarf fell off I wouldn't have an oily satin pillowcase.
    I also did try it on a wash and go; ended up with crunchy hair, and an extra oily face and neck (side note, it wasn't the warmest that day ~40-50 degrees F while the melting point of the oil is I think 76 degrees F). =(
    3C/4A Fine texture, low porosity, low/medium density? Trying CG since Dec. 2013
    Shampoo: Curl's Creamy Curl Cleanser or clarifying shampoo when needed.
    Co-wash: Curl's coconut curlada
    Deep Condition: Experimenting in the kitchen
    oil: flaxseed and coconut for treatments
    Styler: Tresemme conditioner, alone or mixed together with aloe vera gel
    Sealer: aloe vera juice
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Oil and water do not mix so coconut oil on wet hair may not penetrate well. The published research is on dry hair as a pre-wash, left overnight to twenty four hours. A modest amount of heat increases penetration.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • riccicapricciriccicapricci Posts: 43Registered Users
    Oil and water do not mix so coconut oil on wet hair may not penetrate well. The published research is on dry hair as a pre-wash, left overnight to twenty four hours. A modest amount of heat increases penetration.

    hi! Have you the link of the research publication?
    2c/3a F ii
    Wavy Hair Vlogger on Youtube!

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  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I'm on my mobile phone whilst my laptop is out for repair so cannot post links at present. I have posted the links recently if you run a search (via Google may be easier), or you can search on Journal of Cosmetic Science - they are free fulltext.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect

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