What's worse: sulfates or dimethicone?

DigbyDigby Registered Users Posts: 27
There's a color glaze I want to use but it has dimethicone in it. Alternatively, there's a demi-permanent color I want to use that has sodium lauryl sulfate. Which would be safer to use?

I'm trying to get away from permanent hair color, and gradually go gray. I can't tolerate color with ammonia in it.

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  • wavydazewavydaze Registered Users Posts: 2,065 Curl Novice
    hands down i would go with the cone
    2bc/ f / ii. low porosity roots + normal-high porosity shaft where bleached. normal elasticity.

    Currently using:
    Poo: Earthbath Oatmeal & Aloe
    RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: UFD CM, CJ PP
    PT: CJ Repair Me

    :thumright: hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
    :angry8: guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
    Neutral on cones.

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  • BlondeBeautyBlondeBeauty Registered Users Posts: 71
    Out of those two options, I would say sulfates is worse cause it's so drying to the hair but dimethicone would require sulfates to get it out (I believe. You might be able to use coco betaine I'm not sure). What I would recommend is Redken Shades EQ. It's what I use and I love it! It has oil and rice protein and makes your hair frizz free, soft, tangle free, and just overall in better condition. And it's demi-permanent.
  • Corrina777Corrina777 Registered Users Posts: 3,204 Curl Connoisseur
    I would definitely choose the dimethicone. Coco betaine will remove- no need for sulfates.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    3a/f/iii
    Modified CG since 11/5/11
    CLEANSE: CJ Daily Fix, DevaCare No-Poo, CHS Treatment Shampoo
    RO: SS Caitlin's Conditioner, CJ Beauticurls Strengthening
    LI: SS Repairing Protein Treatment, CHS Silk Leave-In
    STYLE: Re:Coil, Curl Keeper, Deva Ultra Defining Gel, Curls Rock Amplifier,Sweet Curls Elixirs Okra Gel and Hard Hold Gel, SS Curl Enhancing Jelly and Firm Hold Gel
  • BotticelliBritBotticelliBrit Registered Users Posts: 2,075 Curl Neophyte
    Echoing what everyone's said: dimethicone all the way! Sulfates are so drying, whereas Coco Betaine can remove the cone
    3B. Med porosity. Med thickness. Med density.

    LP: Shea Moisture (currently JBCO)
    Conditioner/CW: Jason Aloe Vera

    LI: Aunt Jackie's Curls & Coils Quench
    Refreshing: TRESemmé Naturals Aloe Vera & Avocado
    Gel: DevaCurl Ultra Defining Gel
    DC:
    Aunt Jackie's Soft & Sassy Super Duper Softening Conditioner
    Treatments: Coconut oil/Coconut milk

    UK curly. CG since Oct 2013.
    Growing my hair to WL when dry :thumright:
  • DigbyDigby Registered Users Posts: 27
    Corrina777 wrote: »
    I would definitely choose the dimethicone. Coco betaine will remove- no need for sulfates.
    What is coco betaine? Where do I buy it? Thanks for your response!
  • Geek_ChicGeek_Chic Registered Users Posts: 1,275 Curl Connoisseur
    Coco betaine (or cocamidopropyl betaine) is a surfactant (cleansing agent) found in many sulfate free shampoos as well as some sulfate shampoos. It will remove any silicones, including ones that are not water soluble, such as Dimethicone. Choosing a sulfate free shampoo containing Cocamidopropyl Betaine or Coco Betaine is usually more gentle than a sulfate shampoo. Yes To Cucumbers Color Protection Shampoo, Renpure's Luxurious Argan Oil shampoo, Kinky Curly's Come Clean shampoo, As I Am's Curl Clarity shampoo, and Trader Joe's Tea Tree Tingle shampoo are a few examples.
    CG since 11/2011
    2c /3a F /Mii, low porosity

    Go To Products /Routine:
    Clarifying: Suave Essentials Strawberry
    Low Poo: Renpure Luxurious Argan Oil
    CO: Suave Essentials Strawberry, V05 Kiwi Lime
    RO /LI: Tresemme Perfectly (un)Done, Cure Care, V05 Kiwi Lime Squeeze, Suave Essentials Strawberry, Renpure Brazilian Keratin (old formula)
    Stylers: LALSG, AIF, HETT, Suave Professionals Firm Control
    PT: IAGirl's as needed
  • curlicious13curlicious13 Registered Users Posts: 1,632 Curl Neophyte
    I would be careful using 'sulfate free' shampoos. The cleansing agents in those shampoos can be just as drying as regular sulfate shampoos. Get a cowash cleanser that is labeled cowash. Or a no poo instead. I've also heard you can use henna to dye your hair.
  • DigbyDigby Registered Users Posts: 27
    I would be careful using 'sulfate free' shampoos. The cleansing agents in those shampoos can be just as drying as regular sulfate shampoos. Get a cowash cleanser that is labeled cowash. Or a no poo instead. I've also heard you can use henna to dye your hair.
    Interesting that you say that about sulfate free shampoos. I've also found them to be quite drying. Which cowash cleansers do you recommend?
  • JLeighsJLeighs Registered Users Posts: 904 Curl Novice
    I would be careful using 'sulfate free' shampoos. The cleansing agents in those shampoos can be just as drying as regular sulfate shampoos.

    I agree 100%. I'm pretty sure that 7 years of the "sulfate free" shampoos I was using contributed to my horrible scalp issues. I'm now using Alaffia shampoo and once a week or so a cheap clarifying shampoo. My hair and scalp are MUCH better. I can't cowash. I lose too much hair and my scalp doesn't like it at all.
    2C/3A, fine, higher porosity.
  • DigbyDigby Registered Users Posts: 27
    JLeighs wrote: »
    I would be careful using 'sulfate free' shampoos. The cleansing agents in those shampoos can be just as drying as regular sulfate shampoos.

    I agree 100%. I'm pretty sure that 7 years of the "sulfate free" shampoos I was using contributed to my horrible scalp issues. I'm now using Alaffia shampoo and once a week or so a cheap clarifying shampoo. My hair and scalp are MUCH better. I can't cowash. I lose too much hair and my scalp doesn't like it at all.
    Which Alaffia shampoo do you use? Do you condition too?
  • JLeighsJLeighs Registered Users Posts: 904 Curl Novice
    Digby wrote: »
    JLeighs wrote: »
    I would be careful using 'sulfate free' shampoos. The cleansing agents in those shampoos can be just as drying as regular sulfate shampoos.

    I agree 100%. I'm pretty sure that 7 years of the "sulfate free" shampoos I was using contributed to my horrible scalp issues. I'm now using Alaffia shampoo and once a week or so a cheap clarifying shampoo. My hair and scalp are MUCH better. I can't cowash. I lose too much hair and my scalp doesn't like it at all.
    Which Alaffia shampoo do you use? Do you condition too?

    I use the Neem & Shea Scalp Recovery shampoo and conditioner. I'm very happy with it.
    2C/3A, fine, higher porosity.
  • DigbyDigby Registered Users Posts: 27
    JLeighs wrote: »
    Digby wrote: »
    JLeighs wrote: »

    I agree 100%. I'm pretty sure that 7 years of the "sulfate free" shampoos I was using contributed to my horrible scalp issues. I'm now using Alaffia shampoo and once a week or so a cheap clarifying shampoo. My hair and scalp are MUCH better. I can't cowash. I lose too much hair and my scalp doesn't like it at all.
    Which Alaffia shampoo do you use? Do you condition too?

    I use the Neem & Shea Scalp Recovery shampoo and conditioner. I'm very happy with it.
    Isn't this shampoo sulfate-free too? I didn't see sulfates in the ingredients.
  • JLeighsJLeighs Registered Users Posts: 904 Curl Novice
    Digby wrote: »
    JLeighs wrote: »
    Digby wrote: »
    Which Alaffia shampoo do you use? Do you condition too?

    I use the Neem & Shea Scalp Recovery shampoo and conditioner. I'm very happy with it.
    Isn't this shampoo sulfate-free too? I didn't see sulfates in the ingredients.

    Yes, it's sulfate free, but it's not full of all those supposedly "gentle" sulfate alternatives. It's African black soap. My hair feels squeaky clean when I use it, but oddly it's not drying for me at all.
    2C/3A, fine, higher porosity.

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