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hair is limp and not curling anymore

laolaafullaolaaful Posts: 4Registered Users
Hello! I hope to get some advice :)

My hair always feels limp after washing it. When it is dried, hair is flat and i don't have any curls. I'm 2A/2B. It sometimes curls in s curls, but now it is almost straight. I feel when it is frizzy, it curls a lot more and feels light.
I want my frizz back :laughing1: I use low poo shampoo. I tried not using conditioner, but it looked the same. I have clarified it and have done a protein treatment. Nothing helped. I always twist my hair overnight and it always curls really good. Now my hair won't even hold the curl :( But my hair actually feels the healthiest it's been, it is soft and not dry at all. I don't even know why my hair's behaving like that.

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  • sixelamysixelamy Posts: 4,156Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Do you think you might be using products that are too heavy for your hair? What products do you use?
    2c-3a - med-coarse - normal-high porosity - high density
    :bunny:
    NP/LP: CJ Daily Fix, KMF Whenever / Giovanni TTTT
    RO/LI: Aussie Moist, CJ Argan & Olive Oil, Hask Keratin Protein
    DC/PROTEIN: KC Stellar Strands / CNPF
    STYLER: CJ Curl Queen
    COLOR: henna, amla & indigo
    :thumbdown:: glycerin in high/low dews, polyquat-10 & 11, parabens
  • laolaafullaolaaful Posts: 4Registered Users
    I've thought about that, I used Dermorganic daily shampoo and now i switched to a shampoo base from an organic store, i hoped it would help, but it feels the same. And a little bit of light conditioner and nothing else right now. I'm afraid that more products will just make it worse. :(
  • sixelamysixelamy Posts: 4,156Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    This thread might be of some help to you. Have you tried a deep conditioner? It may sound scary, but if protein isn't helping you, then I would try a DT.
    2c-3a - med-coarse - normal-high porosity - high density
    :bunny:
    NP/LP: CJ Daily Fix, KMF Whenever / Giovanni TTTT
    RO/LI: Aussie Moist, CJ Argan & Olive Oil, Hask Keratin Protein
    DC/PROTEIN: KC Stellar Strands / CNPF
    STYLER: CJ Curl Queen
    COLOR: henna, amla & indigo
    :thumbdown:: glycerin in high/low dews, polyquat-10 & 11, parabens
  • curlygirl42curlygirl42 Posts: 21Registered Users
    Could someone explain DT? Having the same problem as laolaaful, would appreciate some tips aswell! :)

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    - Type 2, I think 2B
    - Porosity - very low
    - Density - medium-high
    - Hair width - coarse
    - Length - Long
    - Rarely oily hair, I can not wash my hair for 1 week ++


    :thumbright:
  • ANaturalJoyANaturalJoy Posts: 19Registered Users
    laolaaful wrote: »
    Hello! I hope to get some advice :)

    My hair always feels limp after washing it. When it is dried, hair is flat and i don't have any curls. I'm 2A/2B. It sometimes curls in s curls, but now it is almost straight. I feel when it is frizzy, it curls a lot more and feels light.
    I want my frizz back :laughing1: I use low poo shampoo. I tried not using conditioner, but it looked the same. I have clarified it and have done a protein treatment. Nothing helped. I always twist my hair overnight and it always curls really good. Now my hair won't even hold the curl :( But my hair actually feels the healthiest it's been, it is soft and not dry at all. I don't even know why my hair's behaving like that.
    Have you changed anything in your hair regimen? Are you flat ironing your hair?

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  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    laolaaful wrote: »
    I've thought about that, I used Dermorganic daily shampoo and now i switched to a shampoo base from an organic store, i hoped it would help, but it feels the same. And a little bit of light conditioner and nothing else right now. I'm afraid that more products will just make it worse. :(

    Welcome!

    Have you clarified recently - with either sulphates or cocamidopropyl betaine? What ingredients are in the shampoo base and the light conditioner? Are you avoiding all silicones, waxes including cetyl esters, butters, petrolatum/ mineral oil?

    Both hydrolysed protein and magnesium sulphate (epsom salts) can boost wave.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • jakrussel3jakrussel3 Posts: 423Registered Users
    When my hair gets like that, it's either because I'm due for a trim or I need to switch up my products due to a change in seasonal dewpoints. I try changing products first, then if that doesn't work, trim time!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Hair Properties: 2A/2B, Medium-fine, Normal porosity, Normal elasticity, Medium density
    Low Poo: DevaCare, Yes to Cuc's
    Rinse Out: DevaCare One Condition, Yes to Cuc's
    Cowash: Suave Naturals Lavender, Yes to Carrots Scalp Conditioner
    Curl Cream: AG ReCoil, Organix Moroccan Oil Curl Cream
    Gel/Mousse: Sweet Curls Elixirs FSG w/ Mag Sulfate added, Sweet Curls Elixirs hard hold gel, DevaCurl Frizz Free Foam, Aquage Uplifting Foam
    Protein: Spiral Solutions Protein Spray for daily use
  • laolaafullaolaaful Posts: 4Registered Users
    I think that maybe shampoo is too heavy for me, because sometimes just a shampoo completely changes my hair.

    Shampoo base ingredients:
    Aqua, Aloe Barbadensis (Aloe Vera) Leaf Juice, Decyl Glucoside, Lauryl Betaine, Xanthan Gum, Phenoxyethanol, Citric Acid, Sodium Benzoate.

    I don't have the conditioner near me right now, so cannot write the ingredients.

    I think i will change my shampoo and conditioner. Maybe since the weather is changing, my hair needs something else.

    What can you suggest for my hair that won't weigh it down? Which ingredients are are / are not good for my hair?
  • sixelamysixelamy Posts: 4,156Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    laolaaful - I just tried the DermOrganic shampoo and conditioner today and my hair was a flop, my curls were so flat! So I ended up washing again with another lowpoo and put conditioner in... all that contained glycerin and my curls were a ton better. Either it was a protein or a glycerin thing, but I'm thinking glycerin, since my hair is curling fine now. I am so confused about this! lol
    2c-3a - med-coarse - normal-high porosity - high density
    :bunny:
    NP/LP: CJ Daily Fix, KMF Whenever / Giovanni TTTT
    RO/LI: Aussie Moist, CJ Argan & Olive Oil, Hask Keratin Protein
    DC/PROTEIN: KC Stellar Strands / CNPF
    STYLER: CJ Curl Queen
    COLOR: henna, amla & indigo
    :thumbdown:: glycerin in high/low dews, polyquat-10 & 11, parabens
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    laolaaful wrote: »
    I think that maybe shampoo is too heavy for me, because sometimes just a shampoo completely changes my hair.

    Shampoo base ingredients:
    Aqua, Aloe Barbadensis (Aloe Vera) Leaf Juice, Decyl Glucoside, Lauryl Betaine, Xanthan Gum, Phenoxyethanol, Citric Acid, Sodium Benzoate.

    I don't have the conditioner near me right now, so cannot write the ingredients.

    I think i will change my shampoo and conditioner. Maybe since the weather is changing, my hair needs something else.

    What can you suggest for my hair that won't weigh it down? Which ingredients are are / are not good for my hair?

    Nothing heavy in that shampoo, in fact it is very basic. If you post the conditioner we can comment, there are too many ingredients to list them all here as being 'good' or 'bad' but do read the curl chemist series of articles on NC by Tonya McKay.

    In general ingredients that can build up include many silicones, waxes including cetyl esters, butters, some polyquats, mineral oil/ petrolatum, hydrolysed protein.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • HAIRfreak365HAIRfreak365 Posts: 1Registered Users
    ...may need to be "clarified"... Over time too much product can build up in the cuticles and no matter how often you shampoo residue will remain.
    Try a good Clarifying Shampoo/Conditioner such as Giovanni Tea Tree
    found AT Wal-Mart, Target, Vitamin Shop, Almost Everywhere... Im prohibited from posting the link or I would.

    I will make a Major Difference!.. and be careful of Protein... bcuz too much protein will have an adverse effect... damanging the hair.