Instagram/Facebook = Jealousy/Anger

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2376016/INSTAGRAM-depressing-social-network-smug-photos-post.html
Interesting topic. How many of you would say this is true? I have, while searching for something completey different, came across several blogs from the younger generations that share this sentiment. I can't say that I do, because my FB friends are people I have known the majority of my life. We didn't have any of these sites, so we were out spending time together. I am always happy for them when they get married, have a child, are finally able to buy that house at 40 because I know they have worked non stop for it. This is not saying that people do not get on my nerves, or I have not felt a twinge of the green eyed monster when dealing with an ex. That's a natural thing on or off the web. I just know that a picture can't tell you everything. I do not use Instagram so I can not comment on that. I did join, look around, admire some fantastic photographs, and deleted my account. I really did not see myself using it frequently because I prefer to share with those I know. I am just curious as to what it may feel like to those growing up in the "information age".
PS- Even if you did not grow up in the time of FB or Instagram feel free to comment on them. I'm sure you know that, but I'm saying it anyway.
Interesting topic. How many of you would say this is true? I have, while searching for something completey different, came across several blogs from the younger generations that share this sentiment. I can't say that I do, because my FB friends are people I have known the majority of my life. We didn't have any of these sites, so we were out spending time together. I am always happy for them when they get married, have a child, are finally able to buy that house at 40 because I know they have worked non stop for it. This is not saying that people do not get on my nerves, or I have not felt a twinge of the green eyed monster when dealing with an ex. That's a natural thing on or off the web. I just know that a picture can't tell you everything. I do not use Instagram so I can not comment on that. I did join, look around, admire some fantastic photographs, and deleted my account. I really did not see myself using it frequently because I prefer to share with those I know. I am just curious as to what it may feel like to those growing up in the "information age".
PS- Even if you did not grow up in the time of FB or Instagram feel free to comment on them. I'm sure you know that, but I'm saying it anyway.

When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??
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http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/8/22/4647916/facebook-isnt-making-you-depressed-the-internet-is
This one actually has some more interesting points when looking at peoples behaviors on line. I still find it a little amusing that this guy is working so hard to prove FB is a scape goat. I'd say they have done these studies, on facebook, based on it's popularity, comments and from several other sources with peoples feelings on the matter.
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I have another friend who constantly updates fb with things in her life and (to me) it sounds as if she's desperate for people to envy her life (i.e. feel FOMO based on how awesome she has it). I've known her a long time and her "my life is so awesome" posts sound much more like "my life is really not great, but i want everyone to think it's awesome" (like she needs the outside validation)
I haven't read all of this article , but it's about FOMO
FOMO Addiction: The Fear of Missing Out | World of Psychology
Some older and immature people are out there as well, and always will be, and I agree that things get amplified on line. You're missing that personal connection and being able to see a goofy or large smile, how happy they look, or a happy dance following their achievement. A happy dance meme is just not the same. There is a big difference between being excited about (any number of things) and non stop bragging about nothing. Like Perri says, I think some do that to put forth a good image. It's easy to do behind a screen. If you know them, you know whats going on there too.
Curious though, what do you mean about more accountability? Just curious because to me there is much less accountability, but it also depends on the context.
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For the most part, I relate, when it comes to the people you know. They might be excited over a new car, and they might cuss somebody the next day. I think some people get into trouble when they accept 2359 FB friends and know none of them. Especially when they are/were younger. Everyone I know under 16 posts "I hate my life" non stop. They are constantly comparing themselves to other people they do not know, and that's the sad norm for them (because no one is monitoring). I've wondered if the most popular shows with younger viewers, for several years, have had something to do with this as well. Basically any reality show where you try to out do someone or sit around wishing you lived like ... person. ETA: Trends that have found their way into real life. There seems to be a loss when it comes to being happy with yourself or being happy for someone else.
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Thank you for posting this. I will read it. FB does seem to translate into a place for validation, for a few, who are not quite sure how to handle it. You're supposed to share, but we don't always have anything to share and some try to hard to show/be something they are not. It's an easy place to do it. No one can see the really real.
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I have one friend (she's 44) who honestly knows the exact number of friends she has and checks to see if anyone has unfriended her - and then spins up on why they might have done that. I find it very sad. I'm not one to have thousands of friends, but I have no idea the actual number. To me, that's very high school ("am I accepted by the cool kids?? who doesn't want to be my friend??")
Don't you hate it when they cancel your favorite show?
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But why would any of this cause you to become depressed and angry from simply looking at pictures?
I don't have any FB friends who are under the age of 16. But when my kids are teenagers, I would like to think I have their PWs and am monitoring their activity. I guess a lot of kids w/ depression and suicidal ideation use these platforms as a cry for help and no one takes them seriously.
Very true, Perri.
Yeah, I don't know how many I have and don't check to see if anyone deleted me. I don't care for the most part. I'm just careful about who I accept and let the rest go from there. I have some friends who are out right alcoholics and have always been a**holes when they drink. They tend to check and see who unfriended them after a night of drunken posting. What do you do? They've always been that way. Sometimes they offend, sometimes they entertain, and they always need an intervention.
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yes, I agree with this, I use it less and less, although I do read posts several times a day I rarely post things. Mostly I use it for keeping up with friends, seeing what they are doing, family photos, etc. That is how I use it
I really don't know the why's, but I would say more kids are not being monitored than are. The friends I have that age are my friends children. I do talk to them, check in, try to see what's going on. They both have single moms who work 12 hour shifts, and can not keep tabs on their every move so I jump in when I can.
I know one has some stuff going on at home. He won't tell me what, which kills me because he used to tell me everything (I was at the hospital to see both they days they were born). I've watched him and his posts change, since adding more people, and seen the rather nasty interactions between him and his friends over the dumbest stuff (what's new). He is now sad, depressed, drinking, doing drugs, and saying things that this child would have never said before. He family is aware.
I've watched the girl go to sites, post pictures, listen to trolls slam her for her appearance, make changes, come back, post another pic, and get slammed again. I don't know why you would do that to yourself. (Obviously some self esteem issues which the programs in school are creating as opposed to helping, imo). I honestly do think the unhealthy interaction on line intensifies her feelings and problems.
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Same here. I hardly go on it anymore, but do enjoy the times when I do. I like being able to check in with my friends and family who live in other states. It's great, where that is concerned, but I don't need to do that every day.
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I know people have had their complaints and issues with TV, and I'm not saying it's perfect, but TV does not attack you. A show does not tell you that you are ugly, a slut, you need a face lift, etc... based on one picture. TV doesn't create a webpage about you needing to die. Kids using the internet do. I would say a picture does not attack you or make you feel anxiety or depressed, but according to some in younger generations, a picture can make you depressed. It's really the idea's in their head about that picture and the person posting it, but...
Whew.
And that's of course talking in terms of someones dog, a car they got, a fictional show that has nothing to do with you, etc. Not images of a disaster or things that absolutely will get an emotional response from everyone.
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I guess I'm not thinking about this from a child's POV. (The article isn't about children.)
I would hope that if someone was being verbally or emotionally abusive on FB, they would be unfriended. The fact that someone would accept ongoing abuse from a "friend" suggests the problem lies w/in the person and not w/ in the technology.
But that's not really what the article was talking about. Wasn't the article about ppl feeling their own lives don't measure up to those of other ppl and competing w/ friends to post pictures that reflect you in the best light?
And I'm wondering if, for every person who is angered and depressed by the success of others as seen on FB, there aren't just as many cheered up and inspired by the pictures?
It just seems like a very twisted outlook to have. And they would probably have that attitude off of FB..if they saw someone wearing nicer clothes or driving a better car or heard about a vacation someone took or whatever, they would probably be all pissed off then, too.
Granted I have not read every single link in the 2nd one I posted, but I really did not see this as "Facebook/Instagram are the devil" or that you can blame MZ for what others post.
I think it's just honest questions being examined based on some things that people have said. That happens with everything in entertainment.
True, some do go to extremes with bragging, "showing off", or putting up a front but I honestly see more of a problem with over reaction to photo's and posts and not being able to distort possible realities from fictions. I see a problem with how some view this. Instagram is a photo site. That is it's purpose. People do nails (like our nail thread) to family outings to, ... And many who enjoy photography love this site. I think the problem is when people are seeing every little thing as bragging.
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Same here. It does not bother me a bit. Now I get annoyed when I see so many people flipping out over a harmless/meaningless thing (see the article I posted about swedish feminist being afraid/wanting to change how men sit on the bus because posture equals rape or abuse, and the numerous unsuspecting crotch shots of men they posted as opposed to asking someone to politely move over or give them more room).
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Oh no, I was bring up children because of the side discussion about my friends kids. And I agree, it is more of a problem with how it is viewed, handled, and reacted to which kids are not going to be as great at when dog piled by people. They do have their issues inside of school (though I think personal reaction helps clue them in more than a pic or post) and now online as well which can be much more vicious.
I know there are many who feel great about the things they see. It does seem that there are an absolute ton who over react, go to negative, and cry for bans. It's easier to do when behind a screen.
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Some things are shed to light quicker and faster online (ex. rape cases, incidents of bullying, international news, etc) to make people more aware of issues.
The studies are pretty interesting.
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Yes, information dissemination is rapid (that comes with many pro's and con's because a great deal of early reports are incorrect or lacking all facts and loaded with personal opinions) but I personally don't see that as helping with accountability because I am not sitting in the jury box, hearing all the info, when it goes to trial.
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sounds like a whole lotta trouble goin' on to me!
but i'm old, what do i know???
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I agree, especially as an adult. I remove fb friends when I realize I never see them and have no interested in what they are posting(examples - too much advertising if they are club promoters to things im not interested in, too much political agenda talking that I have no interest in hearing(like constant updates on how horrible the president is and they never post anything else, constant religious talk, posting drama, and almost nude pix of oneself(dont ask)). I had to remove my 16 year old cousin from my newsfeed as well because she was too negative. And if anyone ever insulted me, that would be an obvious deletion.
Exactly.
Josephine, I could talk for years about the accountability issue you brought up. I also enjoy reading about "Trial by Media" and "Court of Public Opinion" and they both have negative, and positive impact. The COPO has been around since the dawn of printed press. Trial By Media is a newer thing, due to the following of internet trends, and I find it can be used in disgusting ways. The very definition tells you it is when the media uses their stance to sway the public and cause a lynch mob type attitude. At the end of the day, it is up to the courtroom. Drawing attention to flaws in laws, etc... Is always a good thing but the fights it leads to or consequences it can have isn't always good. ETA: I am sure this, in a way, has gotten more confusing given that people from all over the world (with different judicial systems and different government understandings) are commenting.** But going after a person and trying to ruin them, when not all the facts are there, is dangerous and I am glad some have been charged for it.
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I hear that! I have to say that is the topic of the most freak outs I see. People will do a post saying, "Nobody gives a damn about your boyfriend drama! Shut up!". I never know who they are talking about, so I snicker.
I get upset with people some times and have to vent (but don't typically do it on FB). I still live in the same town and work with several of these people, and/or am related to them. I don't delete people because they have a different opinions. Like here, I could have a difference and move on (though that's rarely an issue on my FB). Nothing new. People have different view points on a topic. That's a good thing. I don't try to change them and they don't try to change me. We all love each other, flaws and all.
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One is a well-known almost-celebrity (I am a friend on her personal page...not a like on her public figure page).
The other is a non famous but slightly well known person in my city (blog articles, etc written about her).
They just inspire me! I could never feel depressed or jealous or angry when reading their updates or looking thru their pics. They are doing great things and have overcome setbacks and you would really never know bc they're not all the time crying and moaning on FB. (Obviously, we all go thru things. Just bc someone chooses not to dwell on that stuff doesn't mean they're fronting like their life is perfect.)