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About ready to give up

AlixFallenStarAlixFallenStar Posts: 15Registered Users
I can't find anyone who understands this Curly Girl Method, because every time I ask for help with my frizzy waves, they gives me products with the WORST silicones!
I've tried this for almost two weeks, and my waves have improved tremedously. The only problem is the FRIZZ, and you know what everyone tells me to buy? SERUMS!!!!
I've asked and asked here, and you know what, no ones really helped me.
My mom is upset because she keeps buying so many products for me, but I can't have silicones. She doesn't understand, so she gets exasperated.

I just wanted help with my frizz, but this is stressing me out too much. I'm about ready to throw in the towel and go back to my salon products and straightener.
Hair: 2c, maybe a bit 2b
High Porosity, High Denisty
Growing out my short asymmetrical bob and side bangs

Products:
-Trader Joe's Tea Tree Shampoo and Conditioner
-Leave- In spray that I made with : 1 tlspn of Suave Cocnut Condish and water
-Paul Mitchell's Flexible Style Sculpting Serum
-Herbal Essence Tousle Me Softly Mousse
-Tec-Italy Final Touch Gel (ingredients are CG friendly)

Mod CG start: 08/28/2013

Comments

  • debbie.killmdebbie.killm Posts: 1Registered Users
    I understand your frustration. I battle frizz everyday in Arkansas summers where the dew points are regularly in the 70's.
    I have found that applying gel to my hair is necessary, but it needs to be applied while wet and then I use an old t-shirt to "towel" dry. Clipping my hair out of my face as it dries so I don't touch it is a must. The more I touch my hair, the frizzier it gets.
    I have also found that I can use Suave Naturals Coconut shampoo and VO5 moisture milk conditioners. Both are inexpensive. Deep conditioning my hair once a week or even every two weeks helps frizz too. My favorite recipe is honey, olive oil and an egg. 5 Home Frizzy Hair Remedies
    Knowing and understanding dew points has helped me tremendously.
    http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlreading/frizz-control/whats-your-frizz-type
    Hope this helps. No worries!
  • asianrunnerasianrunner Posts: 2,251Registered Users
    Do you have frizz when your hair is wet? Might be build up and need to clarify with a sulfate shampoo.

    Are you using products with glycerin and do you have high dew points? The combo of those would definitely cause frizz! How are you drying your hair?
    Coarse texture, normal-high porosity, normal elasticity (Komaza Care), very weak waves
    cleanser: Redken Fresh Curls Shampoo, CJ Daily Fix

    rinse out: GVP Conditioning Balm, CJ Beauticurls, CJ Smoothing

    jellies/creams: CR Curl Maker, KCCC
    gels: CJ CQ, CJ Pattern Pusha, BRHG

  • curlicious13curlicious13 Posts: 1,632Registered Users
    Tonight I tried smoothing my hair in small sections helps smooth my hair. But i agree that frizz can be a sign of build up. To combat this, you can clarify with a clarifying shampoo & use a sulfate free shampoo often.
  • curlicious13curlicious13 Posts: 1,632Registered Users
    Smoothing my leave in conditioner in my hair in small sections.
  • poxyfairyplumepoxyfairyplume Posts: 85Registered Users
    Has your stylist texturized your hair at all? that can cause frizz. Mine is texturized and it's hard to do anything about it. Gels help the best for me. I currently love Herbal Essences Set Me Up
  • chupiechupie Posts: 5,270Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    You could in addition to the great advice here try making you mr own flax seed gel (super inexpensive) to put in as a filler when really wet. Also read this post
    By stylist Melissa Stites and try this method if conditioning in the shower:

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thereoncewasacurl.com%2F1%2Fpost%2F2013%2F05%2Fsquish-to-condish.html" class="Popup

    This takes time and trial and error. Also most of your answers will probably be in techniques over getting your exact perfect products.

    Watch YouTube vids by jessicurl and look up Deva 3 step to see similar but slightly varying techniques and try them.

    I've been using the MAP technique and while frizz is not my issue I know some 2c peeps with frizz issues that have really found this helps.

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2Fu6YdZ9eQ5mI" class="Popup

    Practice is almost more if a key than product. I do highly recommend homemade FSG with a gel over it after using that squish to condish method if conditioning in the shower.
  • AlixFallenStarAlixFallenStar Posts: 15Registered Users
    Guys, I don't believe it's due to product build up, because it doesn't frizz when my hair is wet, only dry, and I wash all my hair with TJ's Tea Tree Shampoo once a week. I alternate the rest of the week between low shampoo on just my scalp and co-wash/scalp massage.

    I think I need a better gel, one that gives= a better hold. I have considered flax seed gel, might make my own since my mom uses that for her weight loss hah.
    I also want to try ACV rinse, but I need to get some apple cider vinegar. That might help cleanse my hair in case it is product build up that is causing my frizz, but as I said before, it doesn't seem likely.

    Chupie, I saw your video explaining the MAP method. Seems interesting, and I haven't really thought my techniques could affect my hair. Thanks for the advice. I'll look into other techniques.
    Hair: 2c, maybe a bit 2b
    High Porosity, High Denisty
    Growing out my short asymmetrical bob and side bangs

    Products:
    -Trader Joe's Tea Tree Shampoo and Conditioner
    -Leave- In spray that I made with : 1 tlspn of Suave Cocnut Condish and water
    -Paul Mitchell's Flexible Style Sculpting Serum
    -Herbal Essence Tousle Me Softly Mousse
    -Tec-Italy Final Touch Gel (ingredients are CG friendly)

    Mod CG start: 08/28/2013
  • AlixFallenStarAlixFallenStar Posts: 15Registered Users
    PS: chupie, awesome hair :)
    Hair: 2c, maybe a bit 2b
    High Porosity, High Denisty
    Growing out my short asymmetrical bob and side bangs

    Products:
    -Trader Joe's Tea Tree Shampoo and Conditioner
    -Leave- In spray that I made with : 1 tlspn of Suave Cocnut Condish and water
    -Paul Mitchell's Flexible Style Sculpting Serum
    -Herbal Essence Tousle Me Softly Mousse
    -Tec-Italy Final Touch Gel (ingredients are CG friendly)

    Mod CG start: 08/28/2013
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    I can't find anyone who understands this Curly Girl Method, because every time I ask for help with my frizzy waves, they gives me products with the WORST silicones!
    I've tried this for almost two weeks, and my waves have improved tremedously. The only problem is the FRIZZ, and you know what everyone tells me to buy? SERUMS!!!!
    I've asked and asked here, and you know what, no ones really helped me.
    My mom is upset because she keeps buying so many products for me, but I can't have silicones. She doesn't understand, so she gets exasperated.

    I just wanted help with my frizz, but this is stressing me out too much. I'm about ready to throw in the towel and go back to my salon products and straightener.

    Use a proper leave in conditioner and plenty of it - your spritz is likely largely water and oils not rich in the fatty alcohols and cationic surfactants that denote a 'true' conditioner. High porosity waves and curls can need a lot of 'glueing' together with conditioner. For deep treatments coconut oil reduces porosity over time.

    And patience! It's only been two weeks, you ARE getting results but it will take time to get the techniques and products down, especially if you have heat damaged, porous hair. Check out the stickies on the newbies and general haircare boards.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect