Suave Naturals for...everything?

Poking around on here, I noticed that a lot of you use Suave Naturals for different things...some co-wash, some rinse-out, some leave-in. Is it possible I can use it for all three? I'm on a really tight budget, so if I can use one bottle for three purposes, that'd save my life right about now! I really want to start CG, but...ya know, money.
Mostly 2C (?), fine and thin, high porosity. Dry climate + hard water. :cry:

Started CG 9/6/13 (gave up)

2nd attempt (mod CG) 2/12/16

Shampoo (if I absolutely have to): VO5 Pomegranate & Grapeseed, diluted 1:1
Low poo: NYM Kinky Moves shampoo
CO wash: VO5 Pomegranate & Grapeseed
RO: GFTN
LI: KCKT
Stylers: KCCC, Curls Unleashed jelly, Vital Care Mega Hold gel, NYM Kinky Moves curl creme, HE TT/TMS mousse

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  • curlicious13curlicious13 Registered Users Posts: 1,632 Curl Neophyte
    You can depending on the dew points in your area. Then just get a good gel.
  • darkqueenedarkqueene Registered Users Posts: 86
    Can you explain that a little? I haven't done this before so I don't know what's good and what's bad. I live in a very hot, dry climate, if that helps..
    Mostly 2C (?), fine and thin, high porosity. Dry climate + hard water. :cry:

    Started CG 9/6/13 (gave up)

    2nd attempt (mod CG) 2/12/16

    Shampoo (if I absolutely have to): VO5 Pomegranate & Grapeseed, diluted 1:1
    Low poo: NYM Kinky Moves shampoo
    CO wash: VO5 Pomegranate & Grapeseed
    RO: GFTN
    LI: KCKT
    Stylers: KCCC, Curls Unleashed jelly, Vital Care Mega Hold gel, NYM Kinky Moves curl creme, HE TT/TMS mousse
  • Geek_ChicGeek_Chic Registered Users Posts: 1,275 Curl Connoisseur
    For my fine hair, I like Suave Naturals (Coconut) as a RO during the summer months. Dewpoints up to almost 80° mean that it's a little heavy and doesn't have enough protein for a summer cowash. I typically use VO5 Kiwi Lime as summer cowash.

    During dryer fall /winter months, I'll use Suave Naturals (Coconut) as a cowash because I need more moisture to combat winter's lower dews (sometimes down in the single digits). I usually need more moisture in my RO's, and Suave doesn't quite provide enough.

    I absolutely hated it as a LI. If I didn't glob on a good handful, it left me with frizz and poof. A handful of LI in my hair left it feeling producty, and if I ran my fingers through it, the Suave flaked. So, I prefer a richer conditioner as LI, either a moisture one that contains some oil(s) to help seal, or a protein one with a bit of oil(s) to help seal.

    The Tropical Coconut has glycerin and propylene glycol, which are humectants. Humectants pull moisture from what is most moist into what is dryest. In terms of hair vs. air, that means humectants can pull moisture out of hair when the air is dry, causing poof /frizz /dryness, and that in humid climates, they can pull too much moisture into the hair, causing poof /frizz. Since you live in a dry climate, you may find Suave Naturals isn't enough moisture for your hair or that Tropical Coconut leaves you with dry frizz due to the humectants it contains. Even in a dry cilmate, you should be ok with humectants in your cowash, low poo, and rinse out conditioner.

    As Curlicious said, some people do use Suave Naturals for all 3. I know a few swear by it for conditioner only styling. It's CG friendly and cheap, so if you try it for all 3 and dislike it, you can play around with what you use it for, without feeling guilty or whatever. Just do some experimenting. The various "flavors" have varying ingredients, so if you don't like one, it's possible another might work better for you.
    CG since 11/2011
    2c /3a F /Mii, low porosity

    Go To Products /Routine:
    Clarifying: Suave Essentials Strawberry
    Low Poo: Renpure Luxurious Argan Oil
    CO: Suave Essentials Strawberry, V05 Kiwi Lime
    RO /LI: Tresemme Perfectly (un)Done, Cure Care, V05 Kiwi Lime Squeeze, Suave Essentials Strawberry, Renpure Brazilian Keratin (old formula)
    Stylers: LALSG, AIF, HETT, Suave Professionals Firm Control
    PT: IAGirl's as needed
  • darkqueenedarkqueene Registered Users Posts: 86
    Thanks :)

    I have a mild coconut allergy, so there's no possibility of my trying that one. I've found derivatives are OK for me if they're low on the ingredient list, but anything with coconut oil or with it in the name, I just stay away.

    When I went to the store just now, they were out of everything but the coconut, of course. My choices were a vo5 scent I hate, White Rain which I've never had good luck with any of, and something I've never heard of but smells really good. I checked out the ingredients and it looks OK, as does what I found in my medicine cabinet earlier, so now I just get to play with them and see if one works better than the other.

    Sent from my Event using CurlTalk App
    Mostly 2C (?), fine and thin, high porosity. Dry climate + hard water. :cry:

    Started CG 9/6/13 (gave up)

    2nd attempt (mod CG) 2/12/16

    Shampoo (if I absolutely have to): VO5 Pomegranate & Grapeseed, diluted 1:1
    Low poo: NYM Kinky Moves shampoo
    CO wash: VO5 Pomegranate & Grapeseed
    RO: GFTN
    LI: KCKT
    Stylers: KCCC, Curls Unleashed jelly, Vital Care Mega Hold gel, NYM Kinky Moves curl creme, HE TT/TMS mousse
  • Geek_ChicGeek_Chic Registered Users Posts: 1,275 Curl Connoisseur
    The only real coconut in the Tropical coconut Suave is "coconut extract" as the last ingredient (so very minute amounts). Of course it's also fragranced to smell like coconut too. Glad you found something though. :)
    CG since 11/2011
    2c /3a F /Mii, low porosity

    Go To Products /Routine:
    Clarifying: Suave Essentials Strawberry
    Low Poo: Renpure Luxurious Argan Oil
    CO: Suave Essentials Strawberry, V05 Kiwi Lime
    RO /LI: Tresemme Perfectly (un)Done, Cure Care, V05 Kiwi Lime Squeeze, Suave Essentials Strawberry, Renpure Brazilian Keratin (old formula)
    Stylers: LALSG, AIF, HETT, Suave Professionals Firm Control
    PT: IAGirl's as needed
  • darkqueenedarkqueene Registered Users Posts: 86
    Thanks, me too!

    Maybe because it's extract and not a coca-something-or-other ..? I can use those, but I've accidentally used the Suave and ended up itching for days :/

    Sent from my Event using CurlTalk App
    Mostly 2C (?), fine and thin, high porosity. Dry climate + hard water. :cry:

    Started CG 9/6/13 (gave up)

    2nd attempt (mod CG) 2/12/16

    Shampoo (if I absolutely have to): VO5 Pomegranate & Grapeseed, diluted 1:1
    Low poo: NYM Kinky Moves shampoo
    CO wash: VO5 Pomegranate & Grapeseed
    RO: GFTN
    LI: KCKT
    Stylers: KCCC, Curls Unleashed jelly, Vital Care Mega Hold gel, NYM Kinky Moves curl creme, HE TT/TMS mousse
  • hambo02hambo02 Registered Users Posts: 480
    i use them as a rinse out and latley I loove them just for my leave in
  • darkqueenedarkqueene Registered Users Posts: 86
    Well, I think I'm having a reaction to one of the new conditioners. When will I learn to stick with what I know I can handle??

    So I'm going to have to low poo tonight and start over. I bought Suave Everlasting Sunshine (wjich i used to use with the shampoo) and Vo5 pomegranate, but I'm not sure which to use for what. I guess I'll just have to try it and find out...

    Sent from my Event using CurlTalk App
    Mostly 2C (?), fine and thin, high porosity. Dry climate + hard water. :cry:

    Started CG 9/6/13 (gave up)

    2nd attempt (mod CG) 2/12/16

    Shampoo (if I absolutely have to): VO5 Pomegranate & Grapeseed, diluted 1:1
    Low poo: NYM Kinky Moves shampoo
    CO wash: VO5 Pomegranate & Grapeseed
    RO: GFTN
    LI: KCKT
    Stylers: KCCC, Curls Unleashed jelly, Vital Care Mega Hold gel, NYM Kinky Moves curl creme, HE TT/TMS mousse
  • jaclyn15jaclyn15 Registered Users Posts: 227
    Suave coconut makes my scalp itch like crazy! Not sure which ingredient does it, but you are not alone!
    My hair: 3b, corkicelli, medium porosity, medium texture, medium/thick density

    Co-wash: DevaCurl NoPoo
    Rinse-out: GVP Conditioning Balm
    Leave-in: KCKT, Suave Naturals Coconut, or my rinse-out!
    Gel: SS FHG (my new HG!!)... I also like HESMU, AIF, CJ CQ, BRHG, CJ PP and the occasional LALSG

    Likes: Plopping!
    Dislikes: Glycerin

    CG and loving it! :hello1:
  • curlicious13curlicious13 Registered Users Posts: 1,632 Curl Neophyte
    Some curlies like tresemme natural conditioner. Try garnier fructis conditioners. The gf conditioners, I don't think have humectants & should be ok for winter as a leave in since you can't use coconut.
  • CurlyGrey3CurlyGrey3 Registered Users Posts: 508 Curl Neophyte
    Suave makes me itchy too. I think it's the preservative. It's a shame because I like them otherwise.
    Salt & pepper wavy mix 2B/2C
    Low to normal porosity, coarse, kinky, normal elasticity
    Current favorites:
    Low poo: Yes To Cukes Color Protection (the no sulfate one)
    Conditioners: Renpure MPHIP, CJ Smoothing Lotion, AB LI, CJ Curl Rehab, CJ Argan/Olive, Darcy's Pumpkin
    Style: FSG, BRHG
    Pre-poo/DT: Conditioner with honey & coconut oil

    iHerb discount code: PNQ285
  • darkqueenedarkqueene Registered Users Posts: 86
    I'm using Suave Naturals Everlasting Sunshine and it seems to be OK. I don't think the preservatives are my problem, it's just the coconut kind that does it, and I've known about that allergy my whole life. My biggest problem with the allergy seems to be finding CG stylers. Every curl cream I look at seems to have it in there! From what I can tell, Organix (the blue one) doesn't, so I'm going to give that a shot this weekend.
    Mostly 2C (?), fine and thin, high porosity. Dry climate + hard water. :cry:

    Started CG 9/6/13 (gave up)

    2nd attempt (mod CG) 2/12/16

    Shampoo (if I absolutely have to): VO5 Pomegranate & Grapeseed, diluted 1:1
    Low poo: NYM Kinky Moves shampoo
    CO wash: VO5 Pomegranate & Grapeseed
    RO: GFTN
    LI: KCKT
    Stylers: KCCC, Curls Unleashed jelly, Vital Care Mega Hold gel, NYM Kinky Moves curl creme, HE TT/TMS mousse
  • anonymous_150263anonymous_150263 Registered Users Posts: 773
    VO5 and Suave have preservatives in them that are known irritants because they are meant to be rinsed out and not left on the skin. I just discovered this after my daughter was complaining of an itchy back where her hair was touching she had a rash... even though she rinsed it was from the VO5 conditioner. We did a spot test to confirm.
  • secret_karmasecret_karma Registered Users Posts: 438
    Yep when I used VO5 as a leave in it made me itch something awful.

    Sent from my SCH-I535 using CurlTalk App
  • CurlyGrey3CurlyGrey3 Registered Users Posts: 508 Curl Neophyte
    Salt & pepper wavy mix 2B/2C
    Low to normal porosity, coarse, kinky, normal elasticity
    Current favorites:
    Low poo: Yes To Cukes Color Protection (the no sulfate one)
    Conditioners: Renpure MPHIP, CJ Smoothing Lotion, AB LI, CJ Curl Rehab, CJ Argan/Olive, Darcy's Pumpkin
    Style: FSG, BRHG
    Pre-poo/DT: Conditioner with honey & coconut oil

    iHerb discount code: PNQ285

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