Suave Naturals for...everything?

darkqueene

Poking around on here, I noticed that a lot of you use Suave Naturals for different things...some co-wash, some rinse-out, some leave-in. Is it possible I can use it for all three? I'm on a really tight budget, so if I can use one bottle for three purposes, that'd save my life right about now! I really want to start CG, but...ya know, money.

curlicious13

You can depending on the dew points in your area. Then just get a good gel.

darkqueene

Can you explain that a little? I haven't done this before so I don't know what's good and what's bad. I live in a very hot, dry climate, if that helps..

Geek_Chic

For my fine hair, I like Suave Naturals (Coconut) as a RO during the summer months. Dewpoints up to almost 80° mean that it's a little heavy and doesn't have enough protein for a summer cowash. I typically use VO5 Kiwi Lime as summer cowash.

During dryer fall /winter months, I'll use Suave Naturals (Coconut) as a cowash because I need more moisture to combat winter's lower dews (sometimes down in the single digits). I usually need more moisture in my RO's, and Suave doesn't quite provide enough.

I absolutely hated it as a LI. If I didn't glob on a good handful, it left me with frizz and poof. A handful of LI in my hair left it feeling producty, and if I ran my fingers through it, the Suave flaked. So, I prefer a richer conditioner as LI, either a moisture one that contains some oil(s) to help seal, or a protein one with a bit of oil(s) to help seal.

The Tropical Coconut has glycerin and propylene glycol, which are humectants. Humectants pull moisture from what is most moist into what is dryest. In terms of hair vs. air, that means humectants can pull moisture out of hair when the air is dry, causing poof /frizz /dryness, and that in humid climates, they can pull too much moisture into the hair, causing poof /frizz. Since you live in a dry climate, you may find Suave Naturals isn't enough moisture for your hair or that Tropical Coconut leaves you with dry frizz due to the humectants it contains. Even in a dry cilmate, you should be ok with humectants in your cowash, low poo, and rinse out conditioner.

As Curlicious said, some people do use Suave Naturals for all 3. I know a few swear by it for conditioner only styling. It's CG friendly and cheap, so if you try it for all 3 and dislike it, you can play around with what you use it for, without feeling guilty or whatever. Just do some experimenting. The various "flavors" have varying ingredients, so if you don't like one, it's possible another might work better for you.

darkqueene

Thanks

I have a mild coconut allergy, so there's no possibility of my trying that one. I've found derivatives are OK for me if they're low on the ingredient list, but anything with coconut oil or with it in the name, I just stay away.

When I went to the store just now, they were out of everything but the coconut, of course. My choices were a vo5 scent I hate, White Rain which I've never had good luck with any of, and something I've never heard of but smells really good. I checked out the ingredients and it looks OK, as does what I found in my medicine cabinet earlier, so now I just get to play with them and see if one works better than the other.

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Geek_Chic

The only real coconut in the Tropical coconut Suave is "coconut extract" as the last ingredient (so very minute amounts). Of course it's also fragranced to smell like coconut too. Glad you found something though.

darkqueene

Thanks, me too!

Maybe because it's extract and not a coca-something-or-other ..? I can use those, but I've accidentally used the Suave and ended up itching for days

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hambo02

i use them as a rinse out and latley I loove them just for my leave in

darkqueene

Well, I think I'm having a reaction to one of the new conditioners. When will I learn to stick with what I know I can handle??

So I'm going to have to low poo tonight and start over. I bought Suave Everlasting Sunshine (wjich i used to use with the shampoo) and Vo5 pomegranate, but I'm not sure which to use for what. I guess I'll just have to try it and find out...

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jaclyn15

Suave coconut makes my scalp itch like crazy! Not sure which ingredient does it, but you are not alone!

curlicious13

Some curlies like tresemme natural conditioner. Try garnier fructis conditioners. The gf conditioners, I don't think have humectants & should be ok for winter as a leave in since you can't use coconut.

CurlyGrey3

Suave makes me itchy too. I think it's the preservative. It's a shame because I like them otherwise.

darkqueene

I'm using Suave Naturals Everlasting Sunshine and it seems to be OK. I don't think the preservatives are my problem, it's just the coconut kind that does it, and I've known about that allergy my whole life. My biggest problem with the allergy seems to be finding CG stylers. Every curl cream I look at seems to have it in there! From what I can tell, Organix (the blue one) doesn't, so I'm going to give that a shot this weekend.

anonymous_150263

VO5 and Suave have preservatives in them that are known irritants because they are meant to be rinsed out and not left on the skin. I just discovered this after my daughter was complaining of an itchy back where her hair was touching she had a rash... even though she rinsed it was from the VO5 conditioner. We did a spot test to confirm.

secret_karma

Yep when I used VO5 as a leave in it made me itch something awful.

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CurlyGrey3

This one is a known irritant

http://www.nyrnaturalnews.com/chemicals-2/2013/07/cosmetic-preservatives-could-cause-eczema-and-more-experts-warn/