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NEED to find a curl definer...HELP!!!

ailatailat Posts: 9Registered Users
I gathered up the courage to buy the Kinky Curly Curling Custard and I HATE IT!! It leaves my hair all crunchy and not defined like I want and my hair is still frizzy. The only thing I did like about it was the consistency. I have tried the Dark & Lovely Au Naturale Curl Defining Creme Glaze and the Taliah Waajid Curly Curl Cream which I will say both did a good job at eliminating frizz and defining my curls but they are so thick I can't stand it. I'm wondering if I can mix it with water to make it thinner and if it will have the same effect on my hair.

I'm wondering if any girls can give me some insight on some curl definers that are not so thick and will define and my my curls pretty. I like it when my curls are thick and full, something I achieved once before but only because I left a butt load of conditioner in my hair (I know, I know, not good). Any suggestions would be awesome!


Hair Type: 3B/3C, Low Porosity, Medium & Coarse Width, High Density
Pre-Poo: EVOO
Co-Wash: As I Am Coconut Cowash
Conditioner/Detangler: Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture Conditioner
Deep Conditioner: SEARCHING...
Moisturizer: As I Am Double Butter Cream, SheaMoisture Curl & Style Milk
Oil: Organic Coconut Oil

Comments

  • JessiiLeighhJessiiLeighh Posts: 195Registered Users
    Water is the best for clumping curls and my favorite styling product. Apply product to SOAKING wet hair and then scrunch it out with a microfiber towel. You can always separate curls when dry if it's too clumpy. As for a defining product, my favorite is gel. I love devacurl gels, and the light defining gel might be nice to try on your hair. I've often added water to my gels and they work perfectly fine. If you want a cheaper option, try one of the many LA looks gels. Crunch can almost always be scrunched out when dry, but use plenty of leave in to help prevent some stiffness.
    :wav:
    3a, fine/med strand thickness, high density, low porosity
    CG since April 2012
    BC October 2012
    Cleanser: SheaMoisture Manuka Honey or CJ Daily Fix
    RO Conditioner: Mop Top Daily Conditioner
    Leave In: KCKT
    Stylers: Either Raw Curls Spray Gel, Raw Curls Medium Hold Gel, or MopTop Curly Custard, and always topped with Curlisto Control II Gel
    Sealer: Pure Argan Oil
  • curlicious13curlicious13 Posts: 1,632Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I like the cantu curling custard, but depending on your hair type it can weigh down your hair. But my fav styler are oils & gel. I like the curl activating gels.
  • StarmieStarmie Posts: 6,750Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    I like CJ's Curls in a Bottle but it has no hold, I use a bit of mousse on top.
    3b in South Australia.
  • ailatailat Posts: 9Registered Users
    I tried that Cantu curling custard a while ago and it made my hair sooooooo dry. Maybe they've changed the ingredients since then. I don't think I've heard of any of the other products but I will check them out. Thanks!
    Hair Type: 3B/3C, Low Porosity, Medium & Coarse Width, High Density
    Pre-Poo: EVOO
    Co-Wash: As I Am Coconut Cowash
    Conditioner/Detangler: Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture Conditioner
    Deep Conditioner: SEARCHING...
    Moisturizer: As I Am Double Butter Cream, SheaMoisture Curl & Style Milk
    Oil: Organic Coconut Oil
  • Ana021Ana021 Posts: 47Registered Users
    Softee clean and clear protein gel
  • rmc2rmc2 Posts: 349Registered Users
    Ailat I have 4a hair. If your hair is similar to mine, trust me LOL. Try Hawaiian Silky Curl Activator (pink color gel) which sells now for about $5-7 in black hair product mom and pop stores or online. ImageUploadedByCurlTalk1378405829.273002.jpg
  • ailatailat Posts: 9Registered Users
    So when you use a curl defining cream/custard/gel, do you just slather it on or do you put on on frizzy curls to make then more defined? Maybe the way I'm doing it is wrong because I just slather it on.
    Hair Type: 3B/3C, Low Porosity, Medium & Coarse Width, High Density
    Pre-Poo: EVOO
    Co-Wash: As I Am Coconut Cowash
    Conditioner/Detangler: Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture Conditioner
    Deep Conditioner: SEARCHING...
    Moisturizer: As I Am Double Butter Cream, SheaMoisture Curl & Style Milk
    Oil: Organic Coconut Oil
  • curlicious13curlicious13 Posts: 1,632Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Custards you apply them to small sections of your hair from root to tip. If the curls are tighter, use even smaller pieces.
  • rmc2rmc2 Posts: 349Registered Users
    I apply gel on soaking wet hair but my method of applying it (hand prayer method) squeezes some of the water. I put gel on palm and then take a bunch of hair in between palms and slide hands from root to ends. I have 4a shoulder length hair if stretched. It may take about 6-8 sessions of this gel/palm exercise, in others words 6-8 hair sections.
  • CurlySuzeCurlySuze Posts: 7Registered Users
    I was discouraged by the kinky curly knot today. So much so that I'm terrified to try the curling custard! I want to try it so badly too. I actually LOVE the Taliah Waajid Curly Curl CreamIt works WONDERS for my hair.
    3b Curls!
    :queen:
    A Flat Iron Hasn't touched this head since: JULY 2013
    Loves at the moment: Talia Waajid Curly Curl Cream, L'Oreal Evercurl Conditioner, Shea Moisture Smoothie (for fringe and edges) & SM Souffle & Aussie 3 Minute Miracle!
  • multicultcurlymulticultcurly Posts: 5,134Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Leaving lots of conditioner in is a good thing depending on your hair. Your hair is frizzy because it lacks moisture.

    Sent from my HTCEVOV4G using CurlTalk App
    3b/c, medium-coarse, low porosity, high density
    HG: Jessicurl Too Shea and Kinky Curly Curling Custard
    Shampoo: nonsulfate shampoo and Suave Naturals sulfate shampoo when needed
  • wavydazewavydaze Posts: 2,061Registered Users
    ailat wrote: »
    I like it when my curls are thick and full, something I achieved once before but only because I left a butt load of conditioner in my hair (I know, I know, not good).

    Why do you say not good? There's nothing wrong with leaving butt-loads of conditioner in your hair... especially if it has given you great results in the past! If your hair is damaged/porous/dry it may actually really benefit from butt-loads of conditioner. Just make sure you have your protein-moisture balance in check. If you're leaving in lots of conditioner (without protein) and your hair starts getting mushy/limp after a while, incorporate a conditioner with protein or try a PT.

    Many of us do conditioner-only styling. It doesn't work for everyone but if it works for you there's no reason not to stick with it.:flower:
    2bc/ f / ii. low porosity roots + normal-high porosity shaft where bleached. normal elasticity.

    Currently using:
    Poo: Earthbath Oatmeal & Aloe
    RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: UFD CM, CJ PP
    PT: CJ Repair Me

    :thumright: hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
    :angry8: guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
    Neutral on cones.

    iherb discount code: CFN646
  • kcdaudakcdauda Posts: 13Registered Users
    I use trevor sorbie original curly cream its cg friendly and give your curls definition without the crunchiness and like only £5 from department stores I would recommend it highly
  • MirCurlsMirCurls Posts: 2,660Registered Users
    wavydaze wrote: »
    ailat wrote: »
    I like it when my curls are thick and full, something I achieved once before but only because I left a butt load of conditioner in my hair (I know, I know, not good).

    Why do you say not good? There's nothing wrong with leaving butt-loads of conditioner in your hair... especially if it has given you great results in the past! If your hair is damaged/porous/dry it may actually really benefit from butt-loads of conditioner. Just make sure you have your protein-moisture balance in check. If you're leaving in lots of conditioner (without protein) and your hair starts getting mushy/limp after a while, incorporate a conditioner with protein or try a PT.

    Many of us do conditioner-only styling. It doesn't work for everyone but if it works for you there's no reason not to stick with it.:flower:

    big fat curly ditto! I tend to leave a lot of condish in my hair, especially if I'm gonna do SuperSoaker for clumps. I add leave-in ALWAYS. And I add extra leave-in on subsequent days. Today, I have great 3rd day hair, and all I did was add some leave-in condish to revive hair, since I have dry spots. I sometimes have condish only days , which means I will have less-tight curls, hair looks longer and fuller, and dries faster. But when I want definition and hold, I add stuff to make it "sharper" spirals.

    If you like the look of lots of condish, go for it.
    3a3b
    Natural since 11/25/09
    Then: fine, superdry, non-elastic, porous
    Now: medium, dry, elastic, lower porosity, BSL

    Curl Junkie Conditions!
    Eden BW Cleansing Condish Rocks!

    ~CJ Protein Tx
    ; BEE-U-Ti-Ful Deep Condish
    ~SMasters Method; Pixie-curling
    Dumped clumps for VOLUME!

    Marchioness Mir, Magister of Moisturization & Mystic of the Lofty Crown in the Order of the Curly Crusaders
  • AnsleyBirch13AnsleyBirch13 Posts: 180Registered Users
    Eco styler gel! Amazing! Not crunchy, leaves my hair frizz free, and is affordable! You can get it online, at a Sally's beauty supply, or a couple other stores
  • ANaturalJoyANaturalJoy Posts: 19Registered Users
    I part my hair in four sections and take a dollop on the product then finger comb through each section. Some products I've used like Jane Carter's Curl Defining Cream was crunchy at first but my second day hair is always awesome. What I've started doing was after my hair was completely dry, I'd use jojoba oil on the crunchy areas to make them soft and shiny. But there isn't always time for that if your wash n go is really a wash n go.

    I know the struggle is real and can become super frustrating/costly when looking for the best product. Here are some good product reviews that were super helpful for me. I think WonderCurl and Beautiful Textures might work best for you. Check it out
    Products | Tribe Called Curl | The New Curl Order for Natural Hair
  • ashlyndmarieashlyndmarie Posts: 211Registered Users
    Have you tried kinky curly style spritz?? I was looking at that product and it seems light...

    Sent from my SGH-T999 using CurlTalk App
  • BotticelliBritBotticelliBrit Posts: 2,075Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    MirCurls wrote: »
    wavydaze wrote: »
    ailat wrote: »
    I like it when my curls are thick and full, something I achieved once before but only because I left a butt load of conditioner in my hair (I know, I know, not good).

    Why do you say not good? There's nothing wrong with leaving butt-loads of conditioner in your hair... especially if it has given you great results in the past! If your hair is damaged/porous/dry it may actually really benefit from butt-loads of conditioner. Just make sure you have your protein-moisture balance in check. If you're leaving in lots of conditioner (without protein) and your hair starts getting mushy/limp after a while, incorporate a conditioner with protein or try a PT.

    Many of us do conditioner-only styling. It doesn't work for everyone but if it works for you there's no reason not to stick with it.:flower:

    big fat curly ditto! I tend to leave a lot of condish in my hair, especially if I'm gonna do SuperSoaker for clumps. I add leave-in ALWAYS. And I add extra leave-in on subsequent days. Today, I have great 3rd day hair, and all I did was add some leave-in condish to revive hair, since I have dry spots. I sometimes have condish only days , which means I will have less-tight curls, hair looks longer and fuller, and dries faster. But when I want definition and hold, I add stuff to make it "sharper" spirals.

    If you like the look of lots of condish, go for it.

    Yep - agreed! I'm a huge supporter of leaving in conditioner! Lorraine actually encourages it in her book :D
    3B. Med porosity. Med thickness. Med density.

    LP: Shea Moisture (currently JBCO)
    Conditioner/CW: Jason Aloe Vera

    LI: Aunt Jackie's Curls & Coils Quench
    Refreshing: TRESemmé Naturals Aloe Vera & Avocado
    Gel: DevaCurl Ultra Defining Gel
    DC:
    Aunt Jackie's Soft & Sassy Super Duper Softening Conditioner
    Treatments: Coconut oil/Coconut milk

    UK curly. CG since Oct 2013.
    Growing my hair to WL when dry :thumright:
  • 09robiha09robiha Posts: 683Registered Users
    I part my hair in four sections and take a dollop on the product then finger comb through each section. Some products I've used like Jane Carter's Curl Defining Cream was crunchy at first but my second day hair is always awesome. What I've started doing was after my hair was completely dry, I'd use jojoba oil on the crunchy areas to make them soft and shiny. But there isn't always time for that if your wash n go is really a wash n go.

    I know the struggle is real and can become super frustrating/costly when looking for the best product. Here are some good product reviews that were super helpful for me. I think WonderCurl and Beautiful Textures might work best for you. Check it out
    Products | Tribe Called Curl | The New Curl Order for Natural Hair

    I keep a little, tightly sealed dropper bottle of olive oil in my bag for such times! I also keep it in there to moisturise hands etc after I wash them..it works great!
    Mixture of 2c/3a curls, fine to med texture

    :love5: PROTEIN LOVER!!! :love5:

    Wishing my hair would be more like this
    > :angel13:
    and less like this
    > :evil5:

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