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Sheryl Underwood... Do you think she's sorry

CSICSI Posts: 140Registered Users
For what she said about afro hair on The Talk Show? She couldn't understand why Heidi Klum would save hair clippings of her son's afro hair since Sheryl said nobody wants that.... She said she could see saving long, silky, beautiful hair but not afro hair. Do you think she's sorry? How did those comments make you feel?
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  • multicultcurlymulticultcurly Posts: 5,132Registered Users
    I didn't watch the episode. I have only read her quotes. I don't think she is sorry because she doesn't view what she said as wrong. She is also a comedian, which means she makes jokes about things she views as negative. Other than this site and some open-minded people IRL, many people view nappy hair or hair that isn't visibly curly or naturally more frizz than defined curl as worthless and something to be ashamed of. She just said something that many people feel. Not sure how much outrage she will receive since this is a popular view.

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  • LovemenappyLovemenappy Posts: 332Registered Users
    I don't think that she's sorry or care whether she apologizes. She's ignorant and is entitled to her ignorance.

    Nothing wrong with a fool, just as long as you can identify one when you see one. The woman looks like Wesley Snipes in To Wong Foo Thanks for Everything (drag). I will go with the OPPOSITE of whatever is aesthetically pleasing to her eye.

    A good twist out would be better on her head than that BSS silky synthetic #4 wig ANY day. Girl, was looking like the Predator talking about afro hair being nasty? LOL

    What she said in regard to the whole "nasty" comment was in reference to Heidi (a white woman) saving her kid's shaven afro hair. The comparison that she made to a white childs "silky hair" just showed her stupidity. I'm not tolerant of it because it was around white women, and to me there's nothing worse than an ignorant black woman that likes to speak "on behalf" of other black people amongst non-black people.
  • Audrey610510Audrey610510 Posts: 21Registered Users
    The fact that it's a popular opinion shouldn't change anything. Just because all your neighborhood is racist doesn't make you any less racist(just an example). As a black woman she should use her position to better her community and not bash POC. They laughed because they were confirming her ignorant statement that once again places white people above POC. I was ashamed for her. The other WOC cohost who didn't say anything is just as bad imo b/c she had a chance to turn it into an intelligent conversation.

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  • coracora Posts: 456Registered Users
    Everyone has their opinions and are entitled to them, so I don't care if Sheryl is sorry. She didn't need to apologize for how she felt. However I do feel sorry for her because she either A) believes the hair growing out of her head is nasty and shouldn't be cherished or B)she likes the hair that is growing from her head but is dogging it to pander to people who think black hair is nasty. Either option is sad.

    I do find it ironic that in the background of this controversy we find Heidi Klum (the epitome of white beauty) cherishing the hair Sheryl is convinced has no value.
  • SpiralSpunkSpiralSpunk Posts: 243Registered Users
    I don't think that she's sorry or care whether she apologizes. She's ignorant and is entitled to her ignorance.

    Nothing wrong with a fool, just as long as you can identify one when you see one. The woman looks like Wesley Snipes in To Wong Foo Thanks for Everything (drag). I will go with the OPPOSITE of whatever is aesthetically pleasing to her eye.

    A good twist out would be better on her head than that BSS silky synthetic #4 wig ANY day. Girl, was looking like the Predator talking about afro hair being nasty? LOL

    What she said in regard to the whole "nasty" comment was in reference to Heidi (a white woman) saving her kid's shaven afro hair. The comparison that she made to a white childs "silky hair" just showed her stupidity. I'm not tolerant of it because it was around white women, and to me there's nothing worse than an ignorant black woman that likes to speak "on behalf" of other black people amongst non-black people.
    Rotfl!! You went *in* 😲

    I agree, regardless of how she looks (I don't know who this woman is) if her aesthetic is one that cannot accept anything other than a very stringent "white" ideal (long silky probably blonde) then she's not anyone who I'd ever want or expect a compliment from.

    I agree with your whole post and especially the last paragraph.

    I don't think she's sorry and if she ever apologized it would be phony unless she somehow became enlightened. Which is rare IMO for that kind of ignorance.

    The bad part about it is that I don't think the question was about aesthetics at all was it?Yet she took the opportunity to not only make it about that, but to bash a child's hair.

    It's tradition in a few cultures that I know of to save a child's hair. Nothing to do with it being "pretty" - it's just superstition.
  • KorkscrewKorkscrew Posts: 1,834Registered Users
    Another tacky, ugly comment against curly hair. The attitude and comments are both upsetting but at least we (who've embraced our hair) know that what she said doesn't reflect objective reality; that this is merely one person's negative, socially-oppressed opinion.

    If some others agree with that silly opinion, it's disturbing, but it's truly their loss. One of the greatest joys in life is to have the capacity to see beauty in its many forms. I feel sorry for those who limit themselves from enjoying the full spectrum of beauty.
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  • multicultcurlymulticultcurly Posts: 5,132Registered Users
    I agree that everyone is entitled to her own opinions. It is okay if she doesn't like nappy hair. What isn't okay is that because she doesn't like it, nappy hair is worthless and Heidi Klum is crazy for keeping her children's hair.

    Slightly OT, but did she say anything about Sara Gilbert's hair? After all, Sara has very curly hair and would have been a 3b/c as a teen with a lot of volume.

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  • hippychichippychic Posts: 4,673Registered Users
    no, i don't believe she's sorry. she apologized just like paula deen did...doesn't mean anything. she said what she meant. now being a comedienne is her excuse to some. there is usually some truth even in jest.
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  • adthomasadthomas Posts: 5,525Registered Users
    I never thought she was the sharpest knife in the drawer so I can't be bothered by anything she says. I don't watch the Talk very much. Honestly she looks so uncomfortable and out of place it is painful to watch. Everyone else seems educated while she is just loud and uncouth. Thank the Lord Ms. Taylor is on there so black women don't get typecast yet again. She is a comedian and she is classy.
    lot of Underwood jokes on the show seem scripted to me. I doubt she was speaking off the cuff. She wants to fit in so badly I fully expect her at any moment to dance a little gig for them in her tap shoes.
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  • newseasonnewseason Posts: 98Registered Users
    adthomas wrote: »
    I never thought she was the sharpest knife in the drawer so I can't be bothered by anything she says. I don't watch the Talk very much. Honestly she looks so uncomfortable and out of place it is painful to watch. Everyone else seems educated while she is just loud and uncouth. Thank the Lord Ms. Taylor is on there so black women don't get typecast yet again. She is a comedian and she is classy.
    lot of Underwood jokes on the show seem scripted to me. I doubt she was speaking off the cuff. She wants to fit in so badly I fully expect her at any moment to dance a little gig for them in her tap shoes.


    LOL!!! So true. I agree that she is so out of place, watching her contribute to a conversation is like watching a car wreck. Her comments are loud and obnoxious. I thought it is so sad this woman has to insult herself (I'm sure she probably has the hair she described), her own people, and her guest's (Heidi klum) own children to try to be relevant. So sad. Now she's put her foot in it because she has offended the people who supported her initially.
  • auntcurlyauntcurly Posts: 234Registered Users
    adthomas wrote: »
    I never thought she was the sharpest knife in the drawer so I can't be bothered by anything she says. I don't watch the Talk very much. Honestly she looks so uncomfortable and out of place it is painful to watch. Everyone else seems educated while she is just loud and uncouth. Thank the Lord Ms. Taylor is on there so black women don't get typecast yet again. She is a comedian and she is classy.
    lot of Underwood jokes on the show seem scripted to me. I doubt she was speaking off the cuff. She wants to fit in so badly I fully expect her at any moment to dance a little gig for them in her tap shoes.


    Has anybody noticed that media likes to project this type of black woman? Why? She offers nothing to the equation and on top of that, she is filled with a negative consciousness.

    I cannot stand this woman. These latest comments further proved why? Lost in this is that "she challenged a mother about keeping her beloved child's locks." Just the fact that Klum as a mother wanted a keepsake of sons/daughter from childhood, should have warmed everyone's heart. Hair texture should not have even been on the table. Who brought it? This was only supposed to be about a mother's love for her children. Shame on her self-hating attitudes for ruining that moment.
  • adthomasadthomas Posts: 5,525Registered Users
    auntcurly wrote: »
    adthomas wrote: »
    I never thought she was the sharpest knife in the drawer so I can't be bothered by anything she says. I don't watch the Talk very much. Honestly she looks so uncomfortable and out of place it is painful to watch. Everyone else seems educated while she is just loud and uncouth. Thank the Lord Ms. Taylor is on there so black women don't get typecast yet again. She is a comedian and she is classy.
    lot of Underwood jokes on the show seem scripted to me. I doubt she was speaking off the cuff. She wants to fit in so badly I fully expect her at any moment to dance a little gig for them in her tap shoes.


    Has anybody noticed that media likes to project this type of black woman? Why? She offers nothing to the equation and on top of that, she is filled with a negative consciousness.

    I cannot stand this woman. These latest comments further proved why? Lost in this is that "she challenged a mother about keeping her beloved child's locks." Just the fact that Klum as a mother wanted a keepsake of sons/daughter from childhood, should have warmed everyone's heart. Hair texture should not have even been on the table. Who brought it? This was only supposed to be about a mother's love for her children. Shame on her self-hating attitudes for ruining that moment.

    I went back and watched the clip. The question Sharon asked after reading about Heidi and her kids was what are the unusual things the other cohosts save. Sheryl then took it upon herself to take the conversation in a different direction and go into her spill about afro hair. I could kind of understand if someone asked her opinion of kinky hair and she said she didn't like it. But she wasn't asked. I think more people were insulted that when Sara chimed in she saves her kids' hair, Sheryl said it was okay because it was smooth and silky. she also called afro texture hair "nasty.":angry3:

    A lot of people think Sheryl is getting too much flack for this 'one' incident but it's not just about these remarks to me. The general way she acts on the show rubs me wrong. Like you said she behaves like a stereotype of black women.
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  • multicultcurlymulticultcurly Posts: 5,132Registered Users
    She is a stereotype. The problem is that there aren't many representations of black women in the media, and the few that exist are usually stereotypes, instead of allowing black women to be seen as individuals.

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  • KorkscrewKorkscrew Posts: 1,834Registered Users
    Multi, I don't disagree for a second but this does seem to be slowly changing (painfully slowly, of course).
  • Lady_CreoleLady_Creole Posts: 400Registered Users
    auntcurly wrote: »
    adthomas wrote: »
    I never thought she was the sharpest knife in the drawer so I can't be bothered by anything she says. I don't watch the Talk very much. Honestly she looks so uncomfortable and out of place it is painful to watch. Everyone else seems educated while she is just loud and uncouth. Thank the Lord Ms. Taylor is on there so black women don't get typecast yet again. She is a comedian and she is classy.
    lot of Underwood jokes on the show seem scripted to me. I doubt she was speaking off the cuff. She wants to fit in so badly I fully expect her at any moment to dance a little gig for them in her tap shoes.


    Has anybody noticed that media likes to project this type of black woman? Why? She offers nothing to the equation and on top of that, she is filled with a negative consciousness.

    I cannot stand this woman. These latest comments further proved why? Lost in this is that "she challenged a mother about keeping her beloved child's locks." Just the fact that Klum as a mother wanted a keepsake of sons/daughter from childhood, should have warmed everyone's heart. Hair texture should not have even been on the table. Who brought it? This was only supposed to be about a mother's love for her children. Shame on her self-hating attitudes for ruining that moment.

    I agree with SO many comments on this situation. She went "way" off topic to voice her negativity against one of the characteristics of her own people and even tried to "stay" there when her co-hosts tried to re-direct back on topic. Finally Marie Osmond took over the conversation and ended it.

    I felt the others laughed because in confirmed there beliefs about "black hair" or because they were embarrassed by her "classless racial comment" and they were on nation wide television and felt they couldn't do anything else. Personally, I would have walked off...it would have had to be re-taped...smh!

    No, I don't believe her apology because she tried to justify and excuse herself later:

    Sheryl Underwood Explains What She Really Meant By The 'Nappy Hair' Joke - YouTube

    She says she doesn't cuss because children may hear, well...what about the children who heard that hair comment??? She starts going into all other areas to get away from her damaging comment...smh!

    I am done with her...
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  • Lady_CreoleLady_Creole Posts: 400Registered Users
    I posted a link to ABC so requests can be made that she apologize on the show where she made the comment, [see below]:

    Sheryl Underwood..."afro hair is nasty"...

    Please complete the form and send it in. This is the only way these situations will stop.

    Every time I think about what she said I get upset, [not as much as when I first heard it but still...].

    Out of five granddaughters, I have one with "4" hair, and so does many of my grandsons. One complains because his hair is not like his dad's, [3a] and my hair. He took hair after his mom, who wears weaves all the time.

    If he had heard that comment, he would have been devastated, [after all my comments which has been causing him to appreciate his "brand of curls"...even 4's have curls, they are just smaller]. I cannot protect him from every ignorant comment however what I can do, I will.

    If she had made a comment regarding "gays" their whole community would be in a public uproar so "community"...what will you do?

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  • ashlyndmarieashlyndmarie Posts: 211Registered Users
    I'm probably going to the be the only one with this unpopular opinion....but..after quickly skimming through the comments...

    I don't know much about or care to know Sheryl Underwood. I watched the clip of her saying saving afro hair is nasty. She issued an apology and whether she is insincere about it or not I'm not going to waste energy trying to berate people for having their opinion.

    When I have kids I will do everything in my power to instill a healthy, secure self-esteem and tell them their hair is beautiful. But I won't go around trying to censor others. At the end of the day this world is ugly and you can't stop others from making comments or feeling how they feel about afro hair, curly hair, short people, fat people etc etc the list goes on. All I can do is build them up and ensure i did my part.

    I think all the petitioning and complaints won't do any good, personally I would be wasting my blood pressure because guess what? She will ALWAYS think afro hair is nasty. And even worse, she might publically verbalize it again in a different forum! Then what? Should she be fired for verbalizing it? Complete nonsense.

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  • DaniGirl88DaniGirl88 Posts: 1,583Registered Users
    I'm probably going to the be the only one with this unpopular opinion....but..after quickly skimming through the comments...

    I don't know much about or care to know Sheryl Underwood. I watched the clip of her saying saving afro hair is nasty. She issued an apology and whether she is insincere about it or not I'm not going to waste energy trying to berate people for having their opinion.

    When I have kids I will do everything in my power to instill a healthy, secure self-esteem and tell them their hair is beautiful. But I won't go around trying to censor others. At the end of the day this world is ugly and you can't stop others from making comments or feeling how they feel about afro hair, curly hair, short people, fat people etc etc the list goes on. All I can do is build them up and ensure i did my part.

    I think all the petitioning and complaints won't do any good, personally I would be wasting my blood pressure because guess what? She will ALWAYS think afro hair is nasty. And even worse, she might publically verbalize it again in a different forum! Then what? Should she be fired for verbalizing it? Complete nonsense.

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    I agree. Unfortunately you can't stop the negative chatter about hair, body type, race, etc. It will always be there. It is unfortunate, but true.

    I think the best way to counteract this is to make people aware of the positive aspects of natural hair. Like you said, counteract the negative by teaching the positive and building it up. Everyone is allowed to voice their opinion, even if it is offensive to some.
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  • OldschoolbabeOldschoolbabe Posts: 39Registered Users
    I agree with you. Do I find afro hair nasty? No, I'm loving my natural hair BUT other do not have to share my love. She have her opinion that I dont agree.

    Sometimes I think we in the natural hair community are overly sensitive. We get upset if someone dare ask about how a darker skin lady can have 3b hair. Frankly before i went natural i wouldn't have understood either. If ANYONE say ANYTHING negative about our natural hair we post it here and go on and on and on......but its ok for us to say derogatory comments about our sisters that use relaxers.




    I'm probably going to the be the only one with this unpopular opinion....but..after quickly skimming through the comments...

    I don't know much about or care to know Sheryl Underwood. I watched the clip of her saying saving afro hair is nasty. She issued an apology and whether she is insincere about it or not I'm not going to waste energy trying to berate people for having their opinion.

    When I have kids I will do everything in my power to instill a healthy, secure self-esteem and tell them their hair is beautiful. But I won't go around trying to censor others. At the end of the day this world is ugly and you can't stop others from making comments or feeling how they feel about afro hair, curly hair, short people, fat people etc etc the list goes on. All I can do is build them up and ensure i did my part.

    I think all the petitioning and complaints won't do any good, personally I would be wasting my blood pressure because guess what? She will ALWAYS think afro hair is nasty. And even worse, she might publically verbalize it again in a different forum! Then what? Should she be fired for verbalizing it? Complete nonsense.

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  • DaniGirl88DaniGirl88 Posts: 1,583Registered Users
    I agree with you. Do I find afro hair nasty? No, I'm loving my natural hair BUT other do not have to share my love. She have her opinion that I dont agree.

    Sometimes I think we in the natural hair community are overly sensitive. We get upset if someone dare ask about how a darker skin lady can have 3b hair. Frankly before i went natural i wouldn't have understood either. If ANYONE say ANYTHING negative about our natural hair we post it here and go on and on and on......but its ok for us to say derogatory comments about our sisters that use relaxers.




    I'm probably going to the be the only one with this unpopular opinion....but..after quickly skimming through the comments...

    I don't know much about or care to know Sheryl Underwood. I watched the clip of her saying saving afro hair is nasty. She issued an apology and whether she is insincere about it or not I'm not going to waste energy trying to berate people for having their opinion.

    When I have kids I will do everything in my power to instill a healthy, secure self-esteem and tell them their hair is beautiful. But I won't go around trying to censor others. At the end of the day this world is ugly and you can't stop others from making comments or feeling how they feel about afro hair, curly hair, short people, fat people etc etc the list goes on. All I can do is build them up and ensure i did my part.

    I think all the petitioning and complaints won't do any good, personally I would be wasting my blood pressure because guess what? She will ALWAYS think afro hair is nasty. And even worse, she might publically verbalize it again in a different forum! Then what? Should she be fired for verbalizing it? Complete nonsense.

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    I would agree to an extent. I think, like with everything, there are certain words that are triggers for people on this site. While one person may say something that they don't mean as offensive, it can be construed as such by other members. Same as in reality. Some people are very vocal about their feelings/what they find as offensive, while others (such as myself) are offended but less vocal about it. As I've said before, this medium (online forum) is poor when it comes to communication. The lack of nonverbal cues makes it hard to interpret the exact meaning of a person's post.
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  • adthomasadthomas Posts: 5,525Registered Users
    From what I have read from comments most people feel it is not as WHAT she said as WHO she said it to. Sheryl is entitled to her own opinion. No dispute from me there. But she is also a public person who went on a largely white audience show and said "afro hair is nasty". She is also entitled to do that but keep in mind seeing white women giggling over an "afro hair is nasty" joke is going to piss some people off to the highest power. Now I have seen Sheryl standup videos and I will tell you the audience is a sea of chocolate. Here is a woman who Black people are the main ones who support her. Old people say "don't bite the hand that feeds you" so her to clown and embarrass black folks like that was stupid and that is why she backtracked. If she had said the same thing on Tom Joyner people might be mad but not the same sting.It's like this. I have a cousin who is lazy and while I can call her lazy and my family can call her lazy if chick down the street says it then she's getting told off.

    I say if sheryl said what she meant and meant what she said why apologize? Because Sheryl likes to eat and pay rent that's why. Because she knows one day this Talk gig is going to be up and she is going to need to ask da hood with the nasty afro hair to buy tickets to her shows. Notice she went on a radio show with a black target audience to apologize. I feel If she is just voicing her opinion she should either not apologize or go back in front of those same white people she was giggling with and say how sorry she is. Frankly I don't care her humor but I def wouldn't take a free ticket to her show now.
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  • DaniGirl88DaniGirl88 Posts: 1,583Registered Users
    adthomas wrote: »
    From what I have read from comments most people feel it is not as WHAT she said as WHO she said it to. Sheryl is entitled to her own opinion. No dispute from me there. But she is also a public person who went on a largely white audience show and said "afro hair is nasty". She is also entitled to do that but keep in mind seeing white women giggling over an "afro hair is nasty" joke is going to piss some people off to the highest power. Now I have seen Sheryl standup videos and I will tell you the audience is a sea of chocolate. Here is a woman who Black people are the main ones who support her. Old people say "don't bite the hand that feeds you" so her to clown and embarrass black folks like that was stupid and that is why she backtracked. If she had said the same thing on Tom Joyner people might be mad but not the same sting.It's like this. I have a cousin who is lazy and while I can call her lazy and my family can call her lazy if chick down the street says it then she's getting told off.

    I say if sheryl said what she meant and meant what she said why apologize? Because Sheryl likes to eat and pay rent that's why. Because she knows one day this Talk gig is going to be up and she is going to need to ask da hood with the nasty afro hair to buy tickets to her shows. Notice she went on a radio show with a black target audience to apologize. I feel If she is just voicing her opinion she should either not apologize or go back in front of those same white people she was giggling with and say how sorry she is. Frankly I don't care her humor but I def wouldn't take a free ticket to her show now.

    I would also agree with this to an extent. Regardless of whether or not she meant it, I feel like she apologized just to save face. Like you said, she is a public figure and people tend to scrutinize them based on their opinions and beliefs. I don't necessarily think it is right, but it happens. Therefore, I think she apologized so that she doesn't get fired/lose out on money/lose as much of her target audience. I agree that she shouldn't have said it like she did. I don't really even know who she is, but I didn't find it funny.
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  • ashlyndmarieashlyndmarie Posts: 211Registered Users
    Yes yes I totally get where you are coming from! Naturals can be too sensitive...let them do whatever...and I'll do whatever.
    I agree with you. Do I find afro hair nasty? No, I'm loving my natural hair BUT other do not have to share my love. She have her opinion that I dont agree.

    Sometimes I think we in the natural hair community are overly sensitive. We get upset if someone dare ask about how a darker skin lady can have 3b hair. Frankly before i went natural i wouldn't have understood either. If ANYONE say ANYTHING negative about our natural hair we post it here and go on and on and on......but its ok for us to say derogatory comments about our sisters that use relaxers.




    I'm probably going to the be the only one with this unpopular opinion....but..after quickly skimming through the comments...

    I don't know much about or care to know Sheryl Underwood. I watched the clip of her saying saving afro hair is nasty. She issued an apology and whether she is insincere about it or not I'm not going to waste energy trying to berate people for having their opinion.

    When I have kids I will do everything in my power to instill a healthy, secure self-esteem and tell them their hair is beautiful. But I won't go around trying to censor others. At the end of the day this world is ugly and you can't stop others from making comments or feeling how they feel about afro hair, curly hair, short people, fat people etc etc the list goes on. All I can do is build them up and ensure i did my part.

    I think all the petitioning and complaints won't do any good, personally I would be wasting my blood pressure because guess what? She will ALWAYS think afro hair is nasty. And even worse, she might publically verbalize it again in a different forum! Then what? Should she be fired for verbalizing it? Complete nonsense.

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  • Lady_CreoleLady_Creole Posts: 400Registered Users
    Yes yes I totally get where you are coming from! Naturals can be too sensitive...let them do whatever...and I'll do whatever.
    I agree with you. Do I find afro hair nasty? No, I'm loving my natural hair BUT other do not have to share my love. She have her opinion that I dont agree.

    Sometimes I think we in the natural hair community are overly sensitive. We get upset if someone dare ask about how a darker skin lady can have 3b hair. Frankly before i went natural i wouldn't have understood either. If ANYONE say ANYTHING negative about our natural hair we post it here and go on and on and on......but its ok for us to say derogatory comments about our sisters that use relaxers.
    I'm probably going to the be the only one with this unpopular opinion....but..after quickly skimming through the comments...

    I don't know much about or care to know Sheryl Underwood. I watched the clip of her saying saving afro hair is nasty. She issued an apology and whether she is insincere about it or not I'm not going to waste energy trying to berate people for having their opinion.

    When I have kids I will do everything in my power to instill a healthy, secure self-esteem and tell them their hair is beautiful. But I won't go around trying to censor others. At the end of the day this world is ugly and you can't stop others from making comments or feeling how they feel about afro hair, curly hair, short people, fat people etc etc the list goes on. All I can do is build them up and ensure i did my part.

    I think all the petitioning and complaints won't do any good, personally I would be wasting my blood pressure because guess what? She will ALWAYS think afro hair is nasty. And even worse, she might publically verbalize it again in a different forum! Then what? Should she be fired for verbalizing it? Complete nonsense.

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    I don't make derogatory comments about women who relax their hair, I used to relax mine. Just because I went natural doesn't mean everyone should. I don't like weaves or wigs however if others want to wear them...that is their business and their finances. I don't eat meat, a personal lifestyle choice which has improved my health and does my body good...do I "preach" it to others, no! I still cook meat on holidays for my children and grandchildren. I do no insult people regarding their choices.

    If she just stated that she didn't like afro hair that would have been a "self hating" statement because she would be speaking regarding her OWN hair to which I have heard many say on this board regard their own hair regardless the type. However for her to say "afro hair is nasty and no one wants it"...now that is insulting.

    If you, [whoever you may be], choose not to address that then that is your chose however do not attempt to minimize how others may feel about it.

    Many will not address anything, nothing is important because it does not directly affect them. They do not care until the situation hits home, then they want everyone to run to their aid.

    I remember this poem [below] and so I speak...
    First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—
    because I was not a communist;
    Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
    because I was not a socialist;
    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
    because I was not a trade unionist;
    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
    because I was not a Jew;
    Then they came for me—
    and there was no one left to speak out for me.”

    Martin Niemöller

    So "do you", and I will "do me"...Blessings!
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  • Lady_CreoleLady_Creole Posts: 400Registered Users
    adthomas wrote: »
    From what I have read from comments most people feel it is not as WHAT she said as WHO she said it to. Sheryl is entitled to her own opinion. No dispute from me there. But she is also a public person who went on a largely white audience show and said "afro hair is nasty". She is also entitled to do that but keep in mind seeing white women giggling over an "afro hair is nasty" joke is going to piss some people off to the highest power. Now I have seen Sheryl standup videos and I will tell you the audience is a sea of chocolate. Here is a woman who Black people are the main ones who support her. Old people say "don't bite the hand that feeds you" so her to clown and embarrass black folks like that was stupid and that is why she backtracked. If she had said the same thing on Tom Joyner people might be mad but not the same sting.It's like this. I have a cousin who is lazy and while I can call her lazy and my family can call her lazy if chick down the street says it then she's getting told off.

    I say if sheryl said what she meant and meant what she said why apologize? Because Sheryl likes to eat and pay rent that's why. Because she knows one day this Talk gig is going to be up and she is going to need to ask da hood with the nasty afro hair to buy tickets to her shows. Notice she went on a radio show with a black target audience to apologize. I feel If she is just voicing her opinion she should either not apologize or go back in front of those same white people she was giggling with and say how sorry she is. Frankly I don't care her humor but I def wouldn't take a free ticket to her show now.

    Exactly...
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  • adthomasadthomas Posts: 5,525Registered Users
    DaniGirl88 wrote: »
    I would agree to an extent. I think, like with everything, there are certain words that are triggers for people on this site. While one person may say something that they don't mean as offensive, it can be construed as such by other members. Same as in reality. Some people are very vocal about their feelings/what they find as offensive, while others (such as myself) are offended but less vocal about it. As I've said before, this medium (online forum) is poor when it comes to communication. The lack of nonverbal cues makes it hard to interpret the exact meaning of a person's post.

    That is very true that words on a page cannot always fully give the author's intent because the reader can't see expressions or body language ect. So you would think knowing that people would put more thought into what they type. I am one of those who will sometimes tell people if I don't like something they wrote. However, sometimes I don't and instead I chose to ignore their posts completely. Silence on the boards says a lot. I will say most of the time when someone posts in 4 and they get NO responses it's because they wrote something a lot of people thought was distasteful. If the poster doesn't realize what they said was offensive and no one says anything then how can it ever be open to discussion to clear the air and move on. Rather the poster feels ignored and doesn't understand why. If someone doesn't like what's written it doesn't necessarily mean they hate you or have a grudge against you. members disagree about stuff all the time. It's not a big deal to me. Different opinions is the whole point of having the conversation.
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  • adthomasadthomas Posts: 5,525Registered Users

    Sometimes I think we in the natural hair community are overly sensitive. We get upset if someone dare ask about how a darker skin lady can have 3b hair. Frankly before i went natural i wouldn't have understood either.

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    You've peaked my curiosity. Why wouldn't you have understood how a darker woman could have 3b hair?
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  • BluebloodBlueblood Posts: 1,748Registered Users
    Lady_Creole if you were 100% West African and had 3b hair, and you had lived most of your life with people around you telling you you had either done "something" to your hair and you were lying that it was natural, or you were lying about your background wouldn't you be "sensitive"?

    One of my SILs', who is also one of my cousins'*, has had to put up with that for 45 years. Most of the commentators are Black folks and a few of them have mixed ancestry.

    *Some of my siblings are half siblings so while I'm blood related to people they aren't necessarily.
  • OldschoolbabeOldschoolbabe Posts: 39Registered Users
    If I saw a darker skin women with beautiful curly hair I would not have understood. I didn't realize until I stated my own hair journey that there are different hair types. I would have assumedi she would have had a coily texture hair. I didn't realize that my own hair was curly. I grew up being taught that unless you are mixed with something the hair is "nappy". Now i know better.
    adthomas wrote: »

    Sometimes I think we in the natural hair community are overly sensitive. We get upset if someone dare ask about how a darker skin lady can have 3b hair. Frankly before i went natural i wouldn't have understood either.

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    You've peaked my curiosity. Why wouldn't you have understood how a darker woman could have 3b hair?



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