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Gray Curlies Forum, please?

MyrnaMyrna Posts: 2,332Registered Users Curl Neophyte
SEveral of us were talking here and expressed interest in a "Gray Curlies" forum. The thread in Over 40 is not exactly what we had in mind. Are there others who would like this, and could administration please pay attention to this post so that you might create a forum for gray curlies?
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  • rbbrbb Posts: 4,083Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    +1

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  • CurlyGrey3CurlyGrey3 Posts: 508Registered Users
    There have been several younger graying members who said that they would never have looked in over 40 for their issues if they hadn't been pointed there. I think renaming over 40 to gray would suit the needs of the forum better.

    Which is needed more here? Info for grays of all ages or issues for over 40s other then gray hair? I think it's clearly the former.
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  • MyrnaMyrna Posts: 2,332Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I dont know the answer to that, but I do think that one's needs as one goes gray are somewhat different if one is younger - I do think there is a need for this thread. I hope more members will comment!
  • sheilacurlsheilacurl Posts: 1,240Registered Users
    A name change for the Over 40 is a good idea. I've been going gray since my teens but I'm definitely not ready to stop dying my hair any time soon. Besides going through lots of hair dye, what else would there be to discuss about having gray hair?
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  • MyrnaMyrna Posts: 2,332Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Well, Sheila, the fact that you ask the question that way indicates a real need for such a group. Going gray has as many issues as "going curly". It is a huge decision, for those of us who feel ready to stop dyeing our hair; it is not an easy decision for many of us; and for those of us with dark, dyed hair, especially, transitioning over to gray is a tricky, difficult and scary process. Ah but then, you are young...and are not ready to stop dyeing your hair....
  • sheilacurlsheilacurl Posts: 1,240Registered Users
    I see, so it's more like a gray hair support group? What about changing the name of the 'Coloring Your Hair' thread to include '& Gray Hair Support?
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  • rbbrbb Posts: 4,083Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    sheilacurl wrote: »
    I see, so it's more like a gray hair support group? What about changing the name of the 'Coloring Your Hair' thread to include '& Gray Hair Support?

    it's more than a support group. it's just like all the other forums as we are not only giving support but exchanging information. ie, the very long thread about a going grey journey has pages and pages and pages of info. who wants to plow thru all that for a specific idea? if we had a forum, then we could have separate threads about all the different aspects of having grey, curly hair.

    why do we have to have either over 40 or a grey,curly forum? why not both? and let the grey questions be brought to the grey forum? there are other things in the over 40 forum.

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  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    I'm in favour of re naming the existing 'Over 40' board to be more inclusive of younger greys. We already have way too many boards and not all over 40s are bothered about their greys or want to 'transition'. I don't see the logic in menopausal hair issues being separated from greying hair, menopause is not a health issue as such it's normal.

    Quite a few boards could be amalgamated TBH, might make it easier for people to access existing threads and use the appropriate board.
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  • MyrnaMyrna Posts: 2,332Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I agree with rbb, and frankly dont understand the resistance from administration. If you think there are too many forums, get rid of one that is underused or not appropriate for here, like maybe "Celebs Hair" - who gives a rip? we can find that information elsewhere. I agree that it is very cumbersome to plow through hundreds of posts in the gray thread. I like recipes, too, but maybe that is a thread that can go bye bye; I think going gray is a very important potential thread.
  • SpiralliSpiralli Posts: 3,654Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    rbb wrote: »

    why do we have to have either over 40 or a grey,curly forum? why not both? and let the grey questions be brought to the grey forum? there are other things in the over 40 forum.

    I vote for keeping the Over 40 Forum named as is. I go there a lot because I think that hormones, life stage/age perceptions etc. play a part in some of the issues posted there and younger members may not have those issues.

    And I'd like to see a Gray/Curly forum too, like the Coloring forum.
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  • maydewmaydew Posts: 51Registered Users
    Yes please. I need all the help I can get. We want to be natural and have our curls as healthy as possible! :sunny:
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  • LotsawavesLotsawaves Posts: 8,660Registered Users
    I think we should keep the "Over 40" forum for advice on skin care, dating, clothing, hormones, exercising, etc. There's more to getting older then just gray hair, unfortunately.

    I would like to see a forum for gray hair, but not just for those people who are no longer covering their gray, but also how to cover the gray in order for it to look more natural. What products, highlighting, etc. Hair dyes and bleaches work differently on gray hair just as product works differently on curly hair. It could be a forum for "Gray Curlies."
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  • MyrnaMyrna Posts: 2,332Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I second the motion.
  • SystemSystem Posts: 39,059 Administrator
    I feel like we have 10 million sections here on the NC.com forums. I'm pretty tech saavy and it is hard for me to find information. I thought it was great when NC streamlined the all the type 3 sub groups into 1, and the type 4 sub groups into 1. Why not just have a sticky thread in the 'Colouring Your Hair' forum that specifically relates to grey hair of all ages?
  • starznthingsstarznthings Posts: 49Registered Users
    I really wish there would be a forum called Gray Is A Part of Life. I also feel that those who think there is nothing to discuss regarding gray hair other than dye will one day "really need" a Gray forum. No disrespect intended. I don't feel it is a "support group" either. I have to admit, that annoyed me. Two years ago I would have passed out at the thought of not coloring my hair anymore. Now things have changed. I think the Over 40 forum should remain as it is. If we can have three forums about Porosity, surely we can have a forum about Gray.
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  • rbbrbb Posts: 4,083Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    I really wish there would be a forum called Gray Is A Part of Life. I also feel that those who think there is nothing to discuss regarding gray hair other than dye will one day "really need" a Gray forum. No disrespect intended. I also don't feel it is a "support group" either. I have to admit, that annoyed me. Two years ago I would have passed out at the thought of not coloring my hair anymore. Now things have changed. I think the Over 40 forum should remain as it is. If we can have three forums about Porosity, surely we can have a forum about Gray.

    my thoughts exactly. it's like stylists totally disregarding curly hair, like 'who wants curly hair??' and now..... with all the baby boomers, and more importantly, all the younger women who are electing to allow their gray to come in without coloring, they are missing a very large audience. putting curly & gray together is unique.

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  • starznthingsstarznthings Posts: 49Registered Users
    rbb wrote: »
    I really wish there would be a forum called Gray Is A Part of Life. I also feel that those who think there is nothing to discuss regarding gray hair other than dye will one day "really need" a Gray forum. No disrespect intended. I also don't feel it is a "support group" either. I have to admit, that annoyed me. Two years ago I would have passed out at the thought of not coloring my hair anymore. Now things have changed. I think the Over 40 forum should remain as it is. If we can have three forums about Porosity, surely we can have a forum about Gray.

    my thoughts exactly. it's like stylists totally disregarding curly hair, like 'who wants curly hair??' and now..... with all the baby boomers, and more importantly, all the younger women who are electing to allow their gray to come in without coloring, they are missing a very large audience. putting curly & gray together is unique.
    putting curly & gray together is unique.<--- ain't that the truth! :angel10:
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  • MyrnaMyrna Posts: 2,332Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I agree and wonder why there has been no yea or nay from the site administrators on this important issue. Hello??
  • sheilacurlsheilacurl Posts: 1,240Registered Users
    I really wish there would be a forum called Gray Is A Part of Life. I also feel that those who think there is nothing to discuss regarding gray hair other than dye will one day "really need" a Gray forum. No disrespect intended. I don't feel it is a "support group" either. I have to admit, that annoyed me. Two years ago I would have passed out at the thought of not coloring my hair anymore. Now things have changed. I think the Over 40 forum should remain as it is. If we can have three forums about Porosity, surely we can have a forum about Gray.

    Wow, I didn't mean for the term "support group" to annoy, offend or upset anyone. I think of this site as a support group for people with curly hair and sharing issues and solutions for the problems and bonuses associated with having curly hair. When a bunch of people get together to help each other out and give advice, I guess that's what I thought a support group did?

    That would be a great title for the forum though, "Gray is a Part of Life", it's been a part of mine for half of it, lol.

    However, I don't wish it upon anyone that doesn't understand the need for such a forum that "they will one day "really need" a Gray forum". It sounds like I wouldn't be welcome there anyways because I'm not ready to go grey yet. Sorry Myrna, but that's the vibe I'm getting.
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  • starznthingsstarznthings Posts: 49Registered Users
    sheilacurl wrote: »
    I really wish there would be a forum called Gray Is A Part of Life. I also feel that those who think there is nothing to discuss regarding gray hair other than dye will one day "really need" a Gray forum. No disrespect intended. I don't feel it is a "support group" either. I have to admit, that annoyed me. Two years ago I would have passed out at the thought of not coloring my hair anymore. Now things have changed. I think the Over 40 forum should remain as it is. If we can have three forums about Porosity, surely we can have a forum about Gray.

    Wow, I didn't mean for the term "support group" to annoy, offend or upset anyone. I think of this site as a support group for people with curly hair and sharing issues and solutions for the problems and bonuses associated with having curly hair. When a bunch of people get together to help each other out and give advice, I guess that's what I thought a support group did?

    That would be a great title for the forum though, "Gray is a Part of Life", it's been a part of mine for half of it, lol.

    However, I don't wish it upon anyone that doesn't understand the need for such a forum that "they will one day "really need" a Gray forum". It sounds like I wouldn't be welcome there anyways because I'm not ready to go grey yet. Sorry Myrna, but that's the vibe I'm getting.

    Dear sheilacurl,
    I am sorry I felt annoyed -- maybe I do need a support group! lol...that would be one good section in a gray forum. You're right also when you say that a bunch of people getting together and giving advice is a support group. To be honest, I think I was just feeling grouchy yesterday, and when I read what you wrote, I misinterpreted it. What I said about really needing a gray forum, I meant there's more to it than just dye, which is what I think Myrna was trying to say. Oh my, I'm positive no one here wishes gray hair on anyone (unless the person wants to be gray). In fact, I hope they find a reversal pill for gray because I love love love hair color. It's just not practical for me anymore. Friends? :love2::love2::love2::love2:
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  • curlygoinggraycurlygoinggray Posts: 69Registered Users
    I just found this thread using the search method.
    I am all in favor of a curly grey thread, section or whatever it is called.
    I have a hard time getting any answers to my questions and everyone just says look at the sig lines and see who has the same hair properties and what they are using.

    That DOESN'T WORK. By doing that, I have to see if they color their hair or if it is natural. And when you google natural, it has NOTHING to do with Natural Virgin Hair!!!!! Very Frustrating!!!

    Some people that don't color their hair, don't use some products that other curlies do. For example, acv (apple cider vinegar), I only use white vinegar as acv has been reported to stain gray hair. We have to use special measures or make our own products because we can't use "purple shampoos and conditioners". Most are full of sulfate and silicones. Some grays won't use heat appliances as they can yellow the gray, which has to eventually be CUT off. I tend to stay away from diffusers and my hard hat dryer. Our properties are not a one size fits all, just as it is not for all the other curlies.
    I have spent hours and hours on naturallycurly googling everything about gray hair and curls. I have gotten SO frustrated, I won't come back for months at a time.

    I currently belong to many sites: the Silver Sisters Cafe Grey (very few of them know anything about naturally curly hair and products, British Curlies (there is no category I fit into), The Long Hair Community (a few threads on people giving up the dye and growing hair long, a curly thread but no gray and curly thread, atleast I haven't found one yet), and the fb wavy community (I'm not entirely thrilled with that site either).

    Seems at this point that people who let their natural "grey" grow in are being discriminated against. It is not the norm and we know that.

    At this point I will just keep googling and figure out what curly gray people should do for their hair.:cry:
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  • sheilacurlsheilacurl Posts: 1,240Registered Users
    No worries, starznthings :D
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  • atx_eveatx_eve Posts: 278Moderators
    *slides into the thread*

    We've been working on recruiting more contributors for NC and gray curlies is one of our most requested categories to beef up!

    What I'll do is look through the forum organization and if/when I find a fit for a thread like that, I'll report back.
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  • rbbrbb Posts: 4,083Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    eve -- i don't understand what you are saying????

    if you look in the over 40 forum you will finds LOTS of threads appropriate to a gray curlies forum. the 'our grey journey diary' is one that has tons of info. if there had been a forum, this would have been divided into many specific threads.

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  • SystemSystem Posts: 39,059 Administrator
    Perhaps it would be better if you send the links to Eve so she doesn't have to go looking for them.

    Keep mind, there was quite a bit of consolidation earlier this year per members request, which is why there maybe a hesitancy to open another forum.
  • rbbrbb Posts: 4,083Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    Guide63 wrote: »
    Perhaps it would be better if you send the links to Eve so she doesn't have to go looking for them.

    Keep mind, there was quite a bit of consolidation earlier this year per members request, which is why there maybe a hesitancy to open another forum.

    the thread i was speaking about is this one:
    Our Gray Journey Diary

    on the first page of the 'over 40' forum alone there are many, many threads about gray curly hair. i do not know how to copy these in a quick way. it's not about locating them. they are right there, all with "gray" in the name of the thread. i just don't know how to gather them all to stick in one post here. maybe others can offer help.

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  • Geek_ChicGeek_Chic Posts: 1,255Registered Users
    Any of the following would be appropriate in a gray curlies forum:

    http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/over-40/104470-our-gray-journey-diary.html
    http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/over-40/162484-another-going-gray-question.html
    http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/over-40/161617-how-do-you-find-colorist-will-help-you-go-gray-gracefully.html
    http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/over-40/123759-you-embracing-running-away-your-gray-hair.html
    http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/over-40/156427-gray-hair-co-wash.html
    http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/over-40/129976-graying-curlies-how-often-do-you-co-wash-shampoo-your-hair.html

    Rbb, if you copy the link in the address bar for a given thread and paste it into a reply, nc.com will automatically make it a hyperlink with the correct thread title (as above), or if you're on the main page of a forum, you can right click the thread title link and choose "Copy Link" and paste it into a reply.
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  • rbbrbb Posts: 4,083Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    geek_chic, thanks! i already know to do that, but what i mean is you have to go back and forth, doing each one separately. time consuming. is there a way to gather up several, then dump them into a post?

    (i know there are many more threads in the over 40 forum that are about gray hair, yours are a great start, but there are older ones.)

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  • Geek_ChicGeek_Chic Posts: 1,255Registered Users
    What I typically do if I'm copying several links is open up a text editor like Notepad. I'll switch between browser and text editor using Ctrl-Tab. Copy the link, Ctrl-Tab to switch to Notepad, paste link, Ctrl-Tab to switch back to browser. (That's the repetitive part). Once done, in Notepad, hit Ctrl-A to Select All, and then copy, and paste into your reply. It really takes less time to do than it does to explain.
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    Clarifying: Suave Essentials Strawberry
    Low Poo: Renpure Luxurious Argan Oil
    CO: Suave Essentials Strawberry, V05 Kiwi Lime
    RO /LI: Tresemme Perfectly (un)Done, Cure Care, V05 Kiwi Lime Squeeze, Suave Essentials Strawberry, Renpure Brazilian Keratin (old formula)
    Stylers: LALSG, AIF, HETT, Suave Professionals Firm Control
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  • rbbrbb Posts: 4,083Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    Geek_Chic wrote: »
    What I typically do if I'm copying several links is open up a text editor like Notepad. I'll switch between browser and text editor using Ctrl-Tab. Copy the link, Ctrl-Tab to switch to Notepad, paste link, Ctrl-Tab to switch back to browser. (That's the repetitive part). Once done, in Notepad, hit Ctrl-A to Select All, and then copy, and paste into your reply. It really takes less time to do than it does to explain.

    thanks! that is what i was thinking about, but did not know how to get there. i will bookmark this!

    3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity :-(
    washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
    leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
    styling: cj aloe fix gel, cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab.
    sealants - jane carter nourish & shine
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