WWII vet, 88, brutally beaten to death in Spokane, WA

WWII vet, 88, brutally beaten to death in Spokane, Wash. - U.S. News
We're in a world of hurt.
This is very similar to the OK baseball player killing.
We're in a world of hurt.
This is very similar to the OK baseball player killing.
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I am the new Black.
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I don't know what to think about people — of any color.
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TBH, I don't think this had anything to do with Trayvon's murder/Zimmerman's acquittal. Decent, civilized people don't savagely beat elderly people to death, or randomly shoot a passing jogger in the back for kicks. period. Skin color is NEVER an excuse for one's actions.
I am no less enraged when a black person kills a white person without cause as I am when a white person kills a black person.
ETA: It can also be argued that thugs like this (as well as the ones in Oklahoma) cost Trayvon his life, because the image of "criminal black male" associated with their type was projected onto him. You can bet that the right-wing airwaves will be full of people smugly saying, "You see that? How can you blame Zimmerman for fearing for his life?"
The innocent always pay for the deeds of the guilty.
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ETA: As a white woman, I of course cannot directly relate. But as a spouse of a black man for over 30 years, and a mother of a mixed teenager, I feel in many ways that I am 'honorary'. I have experienced a lot of things that most white folks do not, and I feel like I have a certain perspective.
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Yes, that's definitely true - you have direct personal knowledge of this issue, and it has special relevance for you and your child.
My sister-in-law is from Ghana, and my nephew is bi-racial, so I can relate somewhat. He's only 7, so he hasn't yet had to face the stereotyping of young black males, but he's keenly aware of his identity and how others perceive it, especially when he's with his father in public.
OAN: it turns out that the boys who killed the Australian in Oklahoma were NOT all black, as had been reported. One is white, and one is half-white. Not that it makes the murder any less reprehensible, but at least it was not racially motivated.
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But it still could've been racially motivated, depending on which race the kids identify with.
I am the new Black.
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ETA it shows my age that I used the term mixed and not biracial. ;-)
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Too, too true.
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And the one readily available gun that could enable that unbalanced person to do it ... {{shudder}}
Awesome to hear that your daughter is so well-adjusted, popular and happy. Childhood can be tough even without racial and ethnic issues involved, and we all know how mean girls can be! Present company excluded, of course
As far as the OK shooting, the question of the killers' identities just goes to show how arbitrary these label are. What people really mean is color, which can vary widely across generations and within families.
These are their mugshots, so everyone can see what we're talking about:
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Of course, my girl is a teenager and there is always stuff to go through, but I think she handles it well. And yes, concern about the gun culture, which is rampant in AZ, does stay on my mind.
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Agree about the power component. I would suggest that there are probably many layers to this problem.
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I am the new Black.
"Hope the Mail are saving space tomorrow for Samantha Brick's reaction piece on the reactions to her piece about the reactions to her piece." ~ Tweet reposted by Rou.
Probably because the killers were immediately arrested and charged, whereas Zimmerman was allowed to go free after shooting Martin, and was only arrested and (weakly) prosecuted AFTER public outrage forced the Florida governor to do so.And I'd be willing to bet none of these murderers are acquitted, in contrast to the Zimmerman case.
Simply put, it's the sense that justice was not served vis-a-vis Trayvon, whereas it will be for these victims.
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Yep, that's a big part of it. Many people had predicted, as what usually happens, that if Zimmerman had been black he would have been arrested quickly. These cases help to justify that thinking.
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It does seem insane, doesn't it. I am always asking, "what is wrong with people?" Especially with my job :-/ In ways I think it has gotten much worse, and I feel like the world is working in reverse as opposed to going forward. BUT, at times, I also think... It's always been crazy. There is just a large population right now so it seems worse. Perhaps I'm just trying to comfort myself. I do know that people go off easier now. I think so many things in the day to day are so readily available, accessible, do not require much thought, are so easy that people are pushed over the edge quicker. You do see horrible over reactions to simple things that most would 't have thought twice about 15 years ago.
All that aside, is a a sad and horrible story.
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Every person has a unique connection to the Creator that can never be extinguished, and every person has a great soul that can manifest important things in our world. To make a person feel less than they are because of something inside themselves, be it faith, race, or sexual orientation, is the greatest sin of all."
It makes no more since for Trayvon to be judged as a thug based on the actions of these thugs (that just so happen to be black) than it would make for me to assume every white teenager was interested in mass murder because of the Columbine shooting. ...or every Hispanic person was an illegal immigrant.
That type of thinking is what causes racial profiling and is ironically exactly what cost Trayvon his life.
Ass whoopins...,
It was working for us. Why did we stop?
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If parents can come up with a way to steer their kids the right way other than spanking I'm all for it. But whatever they did didn't work at ALL. Perhaps they did NOTHING. I see a lot if that these days.
I see parents in stores and Doctor's offices all the time. Kid all over the place bothering the CRAP out of everyone. And their mom is at her wits end "Jacob, put that down. Put it down, Jacob. Jacob. Put it down Jacob. "
MY mom would say it once. If I didn't she'd hit me. (Not DESTROY me or punch me. Just a lick. No lethal force used.)
And guess what? I would put it down. Sit down. And be quiet until we left.
Now when I got older, she did all the talking and grounding and teaching the finer points of not being a jerk. But only after she had laid that foundation.
Now parents act like they are afraid of their kids.
Because now someone (neighbor, teacher, stranger in the store) is calling the cops if you use a stern tone with your kids, let alone give them a warning tap for misbehaving.
(Corporal punishment is not cruel & unusual punishment, according to the Supreme Court, but schools rarely use it because they're afraid of a lawsuit.)
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