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More than one porosity

Is it possible to have more than one porosity type? I did the water test on two strands. One had been highlighted with about two inches of growth. Yes, I need to do something about that but thankfully curly hair covers roots well. The other hair was from around my neck and wasn't colored. The colored part of the first strand sank and the root section floated. The one from my neck is still floating. Does coloring hair change porosity and how do you maintain and care for hair with two diff porosities? Help!

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  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    The hair float test is notoriously unreliable. But, yes, coloring does affect porosity, and it is possible to have more than one type of hair on your head. New growth, for example, is different from damaged old growth.
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • curlytwirlykatecurlytwirlykate Posts: 142Registered Users
    The question is, how does one successfully work with more than one porosity? My roots are virgin, LOW porosity. They dry within ten minutes after a shower! There's about three inches of that, and then BAM! High porosity! 3+ hours of drying time in my super fine hair! Styling products that work great for the roots don't work well on the length. Products that are great on the length just sit on my roots!

    :banghead:
    3A/2C | fine | high-po length, low-po roots | medium density | shoulder-length

    Shower Time!
    Treat: EVCO
    Co-Wash: DE Unscented Condish with added lavender and tea tree EOs
    Condish: DE Coconut Condish with added local honey

    Styling
    After Shower: Homemade FSG with added gelatine

    + bi-weekly protein DIY treatments (gelatin and egg yolk)
    + mindful nutrition
  • curlyhead77curlyhead77 Posts: 27Registered Users
    EXACTLY CTK!!! It's hard to condition and style!
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    The question is, how does one successfully work with more than one porosity? My roots are virgin, LOW porosity. They dry within ten minutes after a shower! There's about three inches of that, and then BAM! High porosity! 3+ hours of drying time in my super fine hair! Styling products that work great for the roots don't work well on the length. Products that are great on the length just sit on my roots!

    :banghead:

    Actually, you have the porosity thing reversed. Low porosity hair takes a LONG time to dry because the cuticle is "tight." Highly porous hair "gives up" moisture easily. So, your length should dry faster if it's porous and your roots slowly because they are low porosity.

    The attributes of absorbing product are correct--your porous length absorbs quickly and it sits on your roots for a long time.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • curlytwirlykatecurlytwirlykate Posts: 142Registered Users
    kathymack wrote: »
    The question is, how does one successfully work with more than one porosity? My roots are virgin, LOW porosity. They dry within ten minutes after a shower! There's about three inches of that, and then BAM! High porosity! 3+ hours of drying time in my super fine hair! Styling products that work great for the roots don't work well on the length. Products that are great on the length just sit on my roots!

    :banghead:

    Actually, you have the porosity thing reversed. Low porosity hair takes a LONG time to dry because the cuticle is "tight." Highly porous hair "gives up" moisture easily. So, your length should dry faster if it's porous and your roots slowly because they are low porosity.

    The attributes of absorbing product are correct--your porous length absorbs quickly and it sits on your roots for a long time.

    Oops!

    So... why would my overly-processed lengths (which really do seem to be highly porous) take forever to dry? And why do my virgin roots dry in a flash? I clearly don't have this porous thing down ;)

    Regardless, I still don't know how to work with both effectively. Always learning, I guess!
    3A/2C | fine | high-po length, low-po roots | medium density | shoulder-length

    Shower Time!
    Treat: EVCO
    Co-Wash: DE Unscented Condish with added lavender and tea tree EOs
    Condish: DE Coconut Condish with added local honey

    Styling
    After Shower: Homemade FSG with added gelatine

    + bi-weekly protein DIY treatments (gelatin and egg yolk)
    + mindful nutrition
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Kate,it's probably more likely that the ends take longer to dry because they have more product on them, and your roots have less....
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • curlytwirlykatecurlytwirlykate Posts: 142Registered Users
    chloe92us wrote: »
    Kate,it's probably more likely that the ends take longer to dry because they have more product on them, and your roots have less....

    That was my original thought, too... so then I clarified and went a few days without product (because I need to know, right? ;)).

    Same thing! What I think is happening, though, is that my roots aren't taking much water in to begin with. I've noticed that even in the shower, they tend to feel dry. My showers are usually under three minutes (really utilitarian), but today I decided to sit under the showerhead until my roots really felt soaked. Took much longer than that.
    3A/2C | fine | high-po length, low-po roots | medium density | shoulder-length

    Shower Time!
    Treat: EVCO
    Co-Wash: DE Unscented Condish with added lavender and tea tree EOs
    Condish: DE Coconut Condish with added local honey

    Styling
    After Shower: Homemade FSG with added gelatine

    + bi-weekly protein DIY treatments (gelatin and egg yolk)
    + mindful nutrition
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Lol, "hard to get wet" is another sign of low porosity! ;)
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • curlytwirlykatecurlytwirlykate Posts: 142Registered Users
    Ah! So I DO have low porosity roots! Thanks for helping me figure that one out, ladies.

    And curlyhead77 -- very sorry for derailing your thread!!
    3A/2C | fine | high-po length, low-po roots | medium density | shoulder-length

    Shower Time!
    Treat: EVCO
    Co-Wash: DE Unscented Condish with added lavender and tea tree EOs
    Condish: DE Coconut Condish with added local honey

    Styling
    After Shower: Homemade FSG with added gelatine

    + bi-weekly protein DIY treatments (gelatin and egg yolk)
    + mindful nutrition
  • JessMessJessMess Posts: 151Registered Users
    I am sure that it is possible to have multiple porosity types on your head--hair is supposed to increase in porosity when it is damaged.

    For myself, I certainly notice that my somewhat fried canopy dries a lot faster than the underlayer (though to some degree that's true of everybody--the canopy is exposed to air, after all); however, even it seems to retain low-porosity characteristics: still pretty slow to dry, tough to get it to absorb products. It sounds to me like your hair may be lo-po through and through, but it behaves differently based on whether it's "virgin" lo-po or "damaged" lo-po.

    Slow-drying ends would make sense. Your hair is holding onto all that water instead of releasing it into the air--it's just gravity that a disproportionate amount of that water ends up in the tips. My roots are always dry way, way, way before my ends.

    Re. your roots, are you a co-washer? Working on your technique may help get them saturated in the shower. You're supposed to vigorously massage your scalp/roots with the pads of your fingers. With the right co-wash, that should lift the cuticle to get both water and moisture in.
    Jessica
    Type 2c: coarse, high-density, low porosity (so it would seem)
    Avoiding protein and glycerin; going for soft, non-crunchy, frizz-free waves
    CO & RO: Tresemme Naturals Moisture
    Sealer: Olive oil
    Leave-in/Styler: Kinky Curly Knot Today
    DT: olive oil and honey
  • curlytwirlykatecurlytwirlykate Posts: 142Registered Users
    JessMess wrote: »
    It sounds to me like your hair may be lo-po through and through, but it behaves differently based on whether it's "virgin" lo-po or "damaged" lo-po.

    ...

    Re. your roots, are you a co-washer? Working on your technique may help get them saturated in the shower. You're supposed to vigorously massage your scalp/roots with the pads of your fingers. With the right co-wash, that should lift the cuticle to get both water and moisture in.

    Thanks for the feedback, Jess! According to the analysis I just had done (just had the phone interview yesterday!), my roots ARE low-po, and my length/tips are high-po. So... there we go.

    And yes, I am a cowasher. I co-wash pretty much daily, and will spend much of my 3-minute shower massaging with my finger pads. It works great, but the hair doesn't really absorb much (water, condish, product... whatever!). But the virgin hair doesn't really have an issue, either. It feels great and moisturized always, regardless of if I've co-washed or not, or if I've saturated the hair or not! It's a good problem to have... I expect that my hair will be rather low-maintenance when it's all virgin.

    What I'd love is for the lighter products which work great on my roots to work well throughout! But after experimenting for a few days, I think I finally found it! I tried a homemade FSG -- which hasn't worked well for me in the past, but I made it really thin and added gelatine. It's AMAZING so far!

    Thanks for the help, all!
    3A/2C | fine | high-po length, low-po roots | medium density | shoulder-length

    Shower Time!
    Treat: EVCO
    Co-Wash: DE Unscented Condish with added lavender and tea tree EOs
    Condish: DE Coconut Condish with added local honey

    Styling
    After Shower: Homemade FSG with added gelatine

    + bi-weekly protein DIY treatments (gelatin and egg yolk)
    + mindful nutrition
  • curlyhead77curlyhead77 Posts: 27Registered Users
    No problem at all! We are all here to help E/O and sometimes I get lots of it from reading other convos. ;). My roots take forever to dry as does the underneath layers. Sometime the more I try to figure out, the more I end up confused.

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