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Is Kinky Curly really that worth it?

SarxhSarxh Posts: 114Registered Users
I live in Canada and if you're Canadian and curly you know how hard and annoying it is to get some of the more popular products because of either a. It being non existent here or b. it costing a fortune to ship here. I hear soooo much raving about the KK products, specifically the leave in and the custard. Are these really worth while products? I'm still trying to see if I can get lucky and find them here, as I found Curly Hair Solutions products in a beauty supply store close by so I was surprised. I didn't get a thorough look around the store so it might be there for all I know but I'm doubting it. I don't think Sally's carries it either. Why are the products so hyped? And what does the custard do? Is it like a gel? Beautiful Textures has a custard and some people say its a good dupe (found at Sally's).

Oh and if anyone might know a good dupe for the custard or leave in share that as well please!
Hair Type: 3a/3b, dark brown, blonde highlights, normal - high porosity, fine - medium strands
Low Poo: Live Clean Moisturizing Shampoo (lowpoo)
Condish: Aussie Moist or Tresemee Naturals
Leave In: Giovanni DLI or Garnier Fructis Sleek and Shine LI
Styling: Curls Rock Amplifier, Pantene Curl Defining Mousse (HG)
My hair loves protein!:love5:
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  • kaykrekaykre Posts: 314Registered Users
    The custard is great. The leave in is just okay... It detangles well but it's not really that moisturizing.

    KCCC is very different from any jelly or custard I've tried. For me, it's a curl enhancer and a gel.
    2A/B. Mix of fine, medium, and coarse (mostly medium). Dense. Mix of normal and high porosity.
    Dry climate.

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  • wavydazewavydaze Posts: 2,061Registered Users
    depends on your climate IMO. It doesn't hold up well in humidity.

    I actually prefer FSG over KCCC. I think it's really great for those with high density, coarse hair and tighter curl patterns... who live in dry or moderate climates. I think it's tricksy for wavies. hope this helps.
    2bc/ f / ii. low porosity roots + normal-high porosity shaft where bleached. normal elasticity.

    Currently using:
    Poo: Earthbath Oatmeal & Aloe
    RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: UFD CM, CJ PP
    PT: CJ Repair Me

    :thumright: hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
    :angry8: guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
    Neutral on cones.

    iherb discount code: CFN646
  • CurlyInTheFogCurlyInTheFog Posts: 876Registered Users
    I use it combined with BRHG. It gives me great curl definition, frizz control, and decent hold, but since I need a hard hold I add the BRHG. Our dews are generally fairly moderate, but can reach into the 60s (actually are in the mid-60s next couple of days) and KCCC will still work decently for me. I haven't tried it in dews over 70 though. Many people really love it, but some who try it hate it, so YMMV!
    3a/b, F, normal porosity

    Suave conditioner, LAL gel
  • StarmieStarmie Posts: 6,682Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    I really like the leave-in but hate KCCC. I splashed out and had some shipped over and, for me, it was a total waste of money. I bought it before I discovered my hair hates aloe. It also hates gel generally so not sure why I bought it! Sucked in by the hype (again).
    I think iherb sells it and they have good shipping prices (very cheap to Australia anyway, I presume it would be cheap to Canada too).
    3b in South Australia.
  • SarxhSarxh Posts: 114Registered Users
    Oh wow, iherb ships to Canada for only 4 bucks! (the cheapest option at least) that's awesome, they also have real techniques brushes which I've been wanting to try for ages :P thanks so much, I think I'll try KCCC out for myself, although I know if I get hooked it's gonna be pricey product to keep buying. One concern I have though, is it really heavy on the hair? I have easily weighed down hair. Also, should I apply it in sections, or just comb it through with my fingers, or just scrunch it in? I live in Ontario close to Toronto, and the summer has really died down now and it's already starting to feel like fall. Super cold and windy the other day. I don't know too much about dew points but they don't get very high here either.
    Hair Type: 3a/3b, dark brown, blonde highlights, normal - high porosity, fine - medium strands
    Low Poo: Live Clean Moisturizing Shampoo (lowpoo)
    Condish: Aussie Moist or Tresemee Naturals
    Leave In: Giovanni DLI or Garnier Fructis Sleek and Shine LI
    Styling: Curls Rock Amplifier, Pantene Curl Defining Mousse (HG)
    My hair loves protein!:love5:
  • alslgirl2002alslgirl2002 Posts: 210Registered Users
    I tried both extensively, but found the custard to be producty in my hair although I liked the curl definition. Both products do not work well with my highly frizz prone hair and high dew area. I moved on to an oil-based leave in since the KCKT has humectants. I have tried FSG and Jessicurl's Pattern Pusha and liked them better as they are less producty, although there is a bit of trade off with less clumping and a little less curl enhancement with the PP. Keep in mind however, for me, any product used in large quanitities on my hair tends to feel producty.
    Type 2B - 3A
    Med-High Porosity (partial highlights), medium & corse mixed textures

    CG Day 1: May 16, 2013

    Poo: CJ Daily Fix Cleansing Condish (as needed)
    CO: Tresemme Naturals Vibrantly Smooth Condish
    RO&LI: CJ Beauticurls Argan & Olive Oil Daily Hair Condish
    Styling: CJ Pattern Pusha or FSG, TRESemme Flawless Curls - Bouncy Curls Defining Gel, Giovanni LANaturals HardHold Gel (canopy only)
    DT: CJ Curl Rehab, Coconut oil, SS Repairing PT

    Techniques: Scrunch-n-pump, tshirt wrap
  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    I've only used KCCC so I cannot comment on the other products. If I use it as my main product of the day, yes, it can feel producty until it's dry and I totally SOTC, and it can take forever to dry.

    However, I do love a little of it scrunched in a little ways into diffusing a la the Smasters method to tighten up my curl. That consistently works great for me.



    Typically, I
    • comb in a bit of curl cream like CJCCC, regular or lite (for me, just three fingers lightly dipped and rubbed between my hands)
    • then some actual CG gel (KCCC isn't a real gel) like LALSG or BRHG, HESMU (nickel size of BRHG, quarter to half dollar size of the other two or most other gels)
    • rewet with a spray bottle (SuperSoaker method but less messy than at the sink. Works just as well for me)
    • comb thru w/a fine-toothed comb or Denman brush (the latter seemed to be causing me some breakage, so I switched to a comb). For some reason, doing one or the other does make a difference in the final quality of my curls.
    • scrunch in to get it curling, first with bare hands then with something like a Curlease, flour sack, old t-shirt, paper towels, etc. - just not terrycloth toweling
    • diffuse maybe five minutes (I do upside down)
    • then I dip 3 fingers into KCCC up to about the first joint, rub hands together and scrunch thru hair
    • continue diffusing for a couple of minutes, and mine noticeably curls right up better than pre-KCCC
    • flip upright and clip the top for a while
    • air dry
    • SOTC when fully dry - it can be hard to w/KCCC if it isn't, plus it's the best way to prevent frizz anyway
    Using just this bit as described above, an 8 oz. jar lasts me a long time. I'd estimate the last one was a year or close to it. Sounds involved, but from start all the wy down to the last two takes me maybe 10 minutes.

    I get mine at Target now, if you happen to have them in Canada. BTW, CHS is in Toronto, so I'd be surprised if you weren't able to find it in Canada.

    HTH
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

    www.fotki.com/auntnett
  • SarxhSarxh Posts: 114Registered Users
    WurlyLox wrote: »
    I've only used KCCC so I cannot comment on the other products. If I use it as my main product of the day, yes, it can feel producty until it's dry and I totally SOTC, and it can take forever to dry.

    However, I do love a little of it scrunched in a little ways into diffusing a la the Smasters method to tighten up my curl. That consistently works great for me.



    Typically, I
    • comb in a bit of curl cream like CJCCC, regular or lite (for me, just three fingers lightly dipped and rubbed between my hands)
    • then some actual CG gel (KCCC isn't a real gel) like LALSG or BRHG, HESMU (nickel size of BRHG, quarter to half dollar size of the other two or most other gels)
    • rewet with a spray bottle (SuperSoaker method but less messy than at the sink. Works just as well for me)
    • comb thru w/a fine-toothed comb or Denman brush (the latter seemed to be causing me some breakage, so I switched to a comb). For some reason, doing one or the other does make a difference in the final quality of my curls.
    • scrunch in to get it curling, first with bare hands then with something like a Curlease, flour sack, old t-shirt, paper towels, etc. - just not terrycloth toweling
    • diffuse maybe five minutes (I do upside down)
    • then I dip 3 fingers into KCCC up to about the first joint, rub hands together and scrunch thru hair
    • continue diffusing for a couple of minutes, and mine noticeably curls right up better than pre-KCCC
    • flip upright and clip the top for a while
    • air dry
    • SOTC when fully dry - it can be hard to w/KCCC if it isn't, plus it's the best way to prevent frizz anyway
    Using just this bit as described above, an 8 oz. jar lasts me a long time. I'd estimate the last one was a year or close to it. Sounds involved, but from start all the wy down to the last two takes me maybe 10 minutes.

    I get mine at Target now, if you happen to have them in Canada. BTW, CHS is in Toronto, so I'd be surprised if you weren't able to find it in Canada.

    HTH

    They just opened Target in Canada - replaced all the Zellers - do you think I'd be able to find it? And thank you so so much for sharing your method with me, super helpful :) my hair isn't that long either so hopefully it'll last me since it is pricier
    Hair Type: 3a/3b, dark brown, blonde highlights, normal - high porosity, fine - medium strands
    Low Poo: Live Clean Moisturizing Shampoo (lowpoo)
    Condish: Aussie Moist or Tresemee Naturals
    Leave In: Giovanni DLI or Garnier Fructis Sleek and Shine LI
    Styling: Curls Rock Amplifier, Pantene Curl Defining Mousse (HG)
    My hair loves protein!:love5:
  • SarxhSarxh Posts: 114Registered Users
    Just called into the Target closest to me and asked if they carried any kinky curly products, the lady said no without a pause but not in a rude way, she said "oh I know we don't carry that I've been asked before" but I'm not sure if she just didn't want to check and was kind of politely waving me off or not lol. Either way I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't have it, and if they did I know it'd be over priced like everything else in Canada's Targets. With shipping its only $21 to order on iherb so I think that's just what I'm gonna do.
    Hair Type: 3a/3b, dark brown, blonde highlights, normal - high porosity, fine - medium strands
    Low Poo: Live Clean Moisturizing Shampoo (lowpoo)
    Condish: Aussie Moist or Tresemee Naturals
    Leave In: Giovanni DLI or Garnier Fructis Sleek and Shine LI
    Styling: Curls Rock Amplifier, Pantene Curl Defining Mousse (HG)
    My hair loves protein!:love5:
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    For me, it's not that great. I have it, I've used it, and just don't reach for it very often. It's not that it's bad- it's just that I have other things that work a lot better for me. But....I do believe it's one of those products you just have to try. So many people LOVE it.
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    (whew, I thought the above was lost - system went crazy and didn't seem to save it after I'd typed all that!)

    Well, if you're ever there anyway you might look and compare prices if they have it. In the US it's not on the regular haircare aisle, but all the curly specialty products are where the organic hair and skin products and unique make-up lines are - e.g., Welleda, Giovanni, Pixie, Sonia Kashuk, Elf, etc. A row or two over from the regular shampoos, etc.

    BTW, my hair's longer than my avatar, bra band length when curly, way below when straight or wet, and that's still enough KCCC to make a difference.

    Good Luck!
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

    www.fotki.com/auntnett
  • Marci PieMarci Pie Posts: 622Registered Users
    In my opinion NO! Plus it is so expensive. I looked like a poodle after using it. I get great results with my homemade flax seed or okra gel.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    3b, Medium-Coarse (slight coarse charactericstics), Normal porosity & Low elasticity per Curl Wizard Profile.
    Low-poo: Nourish Shampoo
    Co-wash: Suave, Vo5, HE, Aussie Moist
    Deep Conditioner: GVP Conditioning Balm
    Leave-in: Nourish Conditioner (Trader Joe's)
    Stylers: LA Looks Sports, Coconut Oil, Almond Oil, Jojoba Oil.
    Methods: Wet plop or pineapple at night, diffuse in the morning. Scrunch w/joboba, coconut or almond oil.
  • bliss611bliss611 Posts: 238Registered Users
    Sarxh wrote: »
    I live in Canada and if you're Canadian and curly you know how hard and annoying it is to get some of the more popular products because of either a. It being non existent here or b. it costing a fortune to ship here. I hear soooo much raving about the KK products, specifically the leave in and the custard. Are these really worth while products? I'm still trying to see if I can get lucky and find them here, as I found Curly Hair Solutions products in a beauty supply store close by so I was surprised. I didn't get a thorough look around the store so it might be there for all I know but I'm doubting it. I don't think Sally's carries it either. Why are the products so hyped? And what does the custard do? Is it like a gel? Beautiful Textures has a custard and some people say its a good dupe (found at Sally's).

    Oh and if anyone might know a good dupe for the custard or leave in share that as well please!

    Funny but I absolutely hated KCCC. I do use KCKT for detangling. So, it's popular but not for everyone. :)
    3B curls
    Medium texture
    Normal elasticity
    High porosity
  • curlicious13curlicious13 Posts: 1,632Registered Users
    The kccc was used on my hair & I didn't like the custard cuz it flaked in my hair.
  • anonymous_133347anonymous_133347 Posts: 1,426Registered Users
    I apply my KCCC same as I do any other product. Sweep down and scrunch up. Remember--a little goes a long way. (You can easily spread a dab of it on your palm though.) And I highly recommend trying FSG first. It's cheap, it's customizable, and it doesn't easily weigh wavies or fine haired curlies down.
    3A - C, HP, ME, HD. (Coarse, High Porosity, Medium Elasticity, High Density.)

    CG since Nov. 2012

    Poos: SM Moisture Retention + Yucca Baobab, TJ's Tea Tree Tingle
    Condish: TJ 'sTea Tree Tingle*, SM Moisture Retention* + Curl & Shine + Yucca Baobab, Yes to Blueberries
    Stylers: KCKT*, SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie* + Curl & Style Milk*, KCCC*, FSG*, CJ Pattern Pusha, Curl Keeper
    Sealers: Jojoba* or Grapeseed* oil

    * = HG

  • romigjamromigjam Posts: 219Registered Users
    I'll admit, when I was first starting out CG, I hated KCCC and KCKT. They didn't have enough moisture and didn't have enough hold, and my curls just went limp. Now that I have a handle on my protein/moisture balance, and know a routine that works for me, I decided to revisit it.

    Target just recently became a superstore in my town, and they JUST got Kinky Curly, I know, I've been looking at that aisle for four years :lol: Since I'm in Michigan, maybe it'll make it's way up to our next door neighbors lol.

    So yeah I finally found it, used it as a curl enhancing jelly, not as my only gel, with Volumax mega hold on top, and I was impressed. My hair did end up fluffy and a little undefined at the end of the day, but it was still curling at the roots, so I just need to tweak the routine a bit. I'm happy I can put another on-ground gel into my stash, but I won't go running to the stores when I run out. I am a fan of Kiss My Face Upper Management Gel as a curl enhancing jelly, and it is a lot cheaper, and also sold on iHerb.
    2bc3a
    CG since December '09
    loo-poo: Kiss My Face Everywhere Shampoo
    cowash: Suave Naturals, CJ DF
    rinse out: TN
    leave-in: CJHBLI, CJSL, SMRC
    stylers: (rotating) CJAF, CCCC, SMCS, Ecostyler, KMFUM
    DT: CJCR
    PT:CJRM

    love oils, avocado and castor oil are my favorite

    Iherb discount code TSW857
  • curlytwirlykatecurlytwirlykate Posts: 142Registered Users
    The Targets in Canada seem to have much less product diversity -- there are a TON of products from the American Targets that we just don't get up here.

    A few months ago, I found a small supplier of KC and indulged in the leave in ad the custard. The leave-in is useless for me, but the Custard is kinda cool. My profile pic is what happens when I use the custard; great clumping, awesome shine and definition, but I get about half the shrinkage as usual and half the curl!!! I go from a solid 3A to a 2C/2B. So if I'm going for a looser curl, I totally reach for it. BUT it takes forever to dry. Three hours longer than if I use my regular styling products. Sigh!

    Let us know how it works, Sarxh!
    3A/2C | fine | high-po length, low-po roots | medium density | shoulder-length

    Shower Time!
    Treat: EVCO
    Co-Wash: DE Unscented Condish with added lavender and tea tree EOs
    Condish: DE Coconut Condish with added local honey

    Styling
    After Shower: Homemade FSG with added gelatine

    + bi-weekly protein DIY treatments (gelatin and egg yolk)
    + mindful nutrition
  • frankcescafrankcesca Posts: 26Registered Users
    Is KC still selling their travel kits in N. America? I'm in Germany and just ordered one from curlyemporium in the UK. It's a trial-size way to try out KT, CC, the shampoo and the Spiral Spritz.

    Personally, KCCC just reset my definition of HG. I thought my CJ/Jessicurl/Curl Keeper/BRHG/whateverelse cocktail was as good as I was gonna get, short of making my own FSG. And then KCCC just swooped in and gave me crunch-free hold, clumps, definition and curls that hold for three days easy without even TRYING. I put CJ CCCC Lite underneath and sometimes BRHG on top for max hold. This is only the 4th time I've used it so I'm still figuring out a routine, but I am totally sold.

    YMMV, which is why I really suggest looking around for one of their travel kits. And if they stopped making them... they should really, really start again. ;)
    2c, med-coarse, dense, high-med elasticity and still working out my porosity. Living in hard-water Germany.

    Still learning the HGs. Latest faves:
    Washing with KC Come Clean or CJ Daily Fix
    Conditioner Deva OneC, Darcy's Pumpkin Seed
    Goin' Deep: CJ Curl Rehab
    Loving a good prepoo with coconut oil
    Styling with CJ CCCC Lite, KCCC, BRHG, and a spray gel (Fructis, JC Gelebration)

    Second-third-day savers: Curl Fuel overnight and KCSS in the morning!
  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    Yeah, KCCC without another gel does usually lose some definition for me by day's end, but with a little of something else for hold I can easily go 3 days, often 5 or more. Strangely, I get that kind of hold with the KCCC and the other products, but not with it alone or with them alone. However, I use it, it makes my hair more curly, not less like curlytwirlykate, but everyone's different.

    Frankcesca's cocktail of CJCC lite and BRHG (or LALSG) is my most common combo with it, usually with just a bit of KCCC as described earlier.

    Have never had any flaking from it, as someone described, even when I used a lot more of it - sticky, maybe, until absolutely dry, but not flaky.
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

    www.fotki.com/auntnett
  • RytokaRytoka Posts: 309Registered Users
    KCCC is a big no from me. I'm glad I finally ran out so I don't feel like I have to keep trying with it lol. It just doesn't have enough hold, maybe those with a stronger curl pattern have better luck? For me it's ok for the first part of the day but by the end of the day it's fluffy and frizzy with no definition. ;( guess I just get to stick with the cheap Volumax mega. Super hard hold but SOTC's wonderful :) all day hold is huge for me
    Katie
    2C/3a, Medium Texture, Normal porosity, High Density, Normal Elasticity (so says the LCLF Hair analysis)
    Co Wash: As I am
    RO: Yes To Carrots / Ion
    LI: Biotera / Samy Big Curls Defining Cream
    Gel: FSG, Volumax (Original and Mega)
    Color: Henna
    Tools: Diffusing
    :thumright:
  • CurlyInTheFogCurlyInTheFog Posts: 876Registered Users
    Rytoka wrote: »
    KCCC is a big no from me. I'm glad I finally ran out so I don't feel like I have to keep trying with it lol. It just doesn't have enough hold, maybe those with a stronger curl pattern have better luck? For me it's ok for the first part of the day but by the end of the day it's fluffy and frizzy with no definition. ;( guess I just get to stick with the cheap Volumax mega. Super hard hold but SOTC's wonderful :) all day hold is huge for me

    All day hold is big for me, too, because of the wind here. I definitely can't get it with KCCC alone, but I can't get the results I get with KCCC + BRHG with anything else (including BRHG alone or combined with something else). SS CHJ + FHG is a close second, and I'm still experimenting with that, but KCCC/BRHG are easier to get so still #1 on my list. I imagine KCCC has enough hold for some, but I don't think it's really meant to have great hold.
    3a/b, F, normal porosity

    Suave conditioner, LAL gel
  • WavyRooWavyRoo Posts: 195Registered Users
    My favorite way to use it is half way through my pixie diffusing. I think it's a pretty common method here- cant remember what it's called (I get a little confused between super soaker, ice queen, pixie diffuse, etc!). But I use Bioterra cream, then Bioterra gel mixed with a bit of hard hold like LALSG or BRHG in soaking hair. Then I plop for 10, then pixie diffuse for about 1 minutes per section, 5 sections. Then I scrunch in a pretty decent amount of KCCC. I pixie for another minute per section, and my waves spring up into curls. There is a ton of shrinkage which I really like! There is literally an inch difference between the sections I've diffused and the ones I haven't once I get the KCCC on. I then let it air dry the rest of the way and SOTC. It holds up beautifully for me and I get second or third day hair 70% of the time.
    2C normal/high porosity?, medium/coarse texture, lower density
    Cleanse: Pura D'Or every week or two, Yes to Cukes
    Conditioner: VO5 Kiwi Lime (LOVE!), Tresemme Naturals, YTC
    DT: GVP Conditioning Balm w/ coconut oil
    LI: a touch of JCTS
    Products: my HG is Tresemme Bouncy Curls Defining Gel mixed with a touch of BRHG over a little flax seed gel, SM Souflee/Milk for 2nd day hair, occasionally Bioterra Curling Creme and Gel
    Modified CG since November 2012- finally found what works! :)
  • SereneCurlsSereneCurls Posts: 1,145Registered Users
    I'm waiting now for my iherb order and I'll have kckt and kccc. I'm curious about what the results will be.
    3a, dense, fairly coarse, normal porosity and elasticity, just below shoulder
    Low poo: Giovanni 50 50
    Co-wash: aia, suave coconut, salon care
    R O: Tresume Naturals, gvpcb
    L I: KCKT, gvpcb
    Stylers: cjpp, re : coil, kccc, brhg
    Oils: coconut, argan
    Experimenting with: curls rock amplifier, pantene mousse
  • wavydazewavydaze Posts: 2,061Registered Users
    Wavyroo I think it's called the smasters method!
    2bc/ f / ii. low porosity roots + normal-high porosity shaft where bleached. normal elasticity.

    Currently using:
    Poo: Earthbath Oatmeal & Aloe
    RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: UFD CM, CJ PP
    PT: CJ Repair Me

    :thumright: hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
    :angry8: guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
    Neutral on cones.

    iherb discount code: CFN646
  • WavyRooWavyRoo Posts: 195Registered Users
    That's it wavydaze! That was driving me crazy.

    So I like the smasters method:)
    2C normal/high porosity?, medium/coarse texture, lower density
    Cleanse: Pura D'Or every week or two, Yes to Cukes
    Conditioner: VO5 Kiwi Lime (LOVE!), Tresemme Naturals, YTC
    DT: GVP Conditioning Balm w/ coconut oil
    LI: a touch of JCTS
    Products: my HG is Tresemme Bouncy Curls Defining Gel mixed with a touch of BRHG over a little flax seed gel, SM Souflee/Milk for 2nd day hair, occasionally Bioterra Curling Creme and Gel
    Modified CG since November 2012- finally found what works! :)
  • CurlyInTheFogCurlyInTheFog Posts: 876Registered Users
    I smasters with it, too (that just looks totally wrong grammatically)--KCCC with just a dab of BRHG. Great shrinkage, which I like.
    3a/b, F, normal porosity

    Suave conditioner, LAL gel
  • itsKelCeeEeeitsKelCeeEee Posts: 1,084Registered Users
    (Excuse the short answer, I swear it's validated)

    No.
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    Big Chop: 11/25/09
    Cottony/fluffy, medium/coarse, high density & porosity
    SL - APL - BSB - BSL - MBL - WL - HL
  • anonymous_133347anonymous_133347 Posts: 1,426Registered Users
    I don't know if anybody can definitively answer this question for you. For one person, it might be absolutely worth it and a total HG. For another, it's just a waste of money. I'll tell you something though--when I really want to try something I almost need to try it. It's like an itch that can't be scratched. Might be worth it just to spare yourself the fear of "the one that got away".
    3A - C, HP, ME, HD. (Coarse, High Porosity, Medium Elasticity, High Density.)

    CG since Nov. 2012

    Poos: SM Moisture Retention + Yucca Baobab, TJ's Tea Tree Tingle
    Condish: TJ 'sTea Tree Tingle*, SM Moisture Retention* + Curl & Shine + Yucca Baobab, Yes to Blueberries
    Stylers: KCKT*, SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie* + Curl & Style Milk*, KCCC*, FSG*, CJ Pattern Pusha, Curl Keeper
    Sealers: Jojoba* or Grapeseed* oil

    * = HG

  • SpiralliSpiralli Posts: 3,654Registered Users Curl Virtuoso
    I love KCKT. It's a HG leave-in for me and I have repurchased it every time I've run out since first trying it years ago. For thin/fine hair, it's lightweight, excellent detangler, and doesn't weigh my hair down. I alternate it with another LI that I like, depending on whether i am co-washing that day or not.

    KCCC was good, but hard to figure out the right amount/mix for my hair. Also, seemed like it made my slow-drying hair take even longer to dry.
    Location: Texas
    Type: 3b/3c (i), below shoulder length.
    CO wash: A-O GPB LYY, Desert Essence Coconut, Oribe Silverati
    Leave-ins: Curl Junkie Beauti-Curls, KCKT, cno overnight
    Styling: BRHG, MGA Sculpting Gel, A-O Mandarin Magic Gel, LOTD AVG, LALSG, CJ Pattern Pusha
    DT: Curl Junkie Deep Fix, Briogeo Don't Despair Repair!
  • curlytwirlykatecurlytwirlykate Posts: 142Registered Users
    dusalocks wrote: »
    I don't know if anybody can definitively answer this question for you. For one person, it might be absolutely worth it and a total HG. For another, it's just a waste of money. I'll tell you something though--when I really want to try something I almost need to try it. It's like an itch that can't be scratched. Might be worth it just to spare yourself the fear of "the one that got away".

    YES!
    3A/2C | fine | high-po length, low-po roots | medium density | shoulder-length

    Shower Time!
    Treat: EVCO
    Co-Wash: DE Unscented Condish with added lavender and tea tree EOs
    Condish: DE Coconut Condish with added local honey

    Styling
    After Shower: Homemade FSG with added gelatine

    + bi-weekly protein DIY treatments (gelatin and egg yolk)
    + mindful nutrition
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