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I'm just thinking about showers

Since I broke my foot I've been washing my hair in the tub (I did get a shower stool but I'm pretty clumsy with it and on hair-washing days I've found the ol' tub method to work better.) I can't say I've noticed a huge difference in my hair, but it has got me thinking...

Since teenagerhood, I've always had a frizzy canopy and silky underlayer--had pretty straight, silky hair as a child. I know it was partly just hormones/maturity that changed me, but it's also making me suspicious because that's also when I started to shower regularly and wash my hair daily.

Do you suppose drenching your hair in still water--where there's no water beating down on your canopy--and rinsing in water that has some lingering conditioner in it--could be better for your hair? Kids--who pretty much use this method--always seem to have nicer, healthier hair. Maybe this is partly why?

This frizzed-out, I-didn't-even-know-my-hair-was-curly problem also seems to be sort of a modern development, which I'm sure has more to do with hair-care products than anything else, but maybe it also has something to do with the dramatic increase of showers in homes after WWII?

Should CGers be washing in the tub? Is there already a thread about this somewhere? LOL.
Jessica
Type 2c: coarse, high-density, low porosity (so it would seem)
Avoiding protein and glycerin; going for soft, non-crunchy, frizz-free waves
CO & RO: Tresemme Naturals Moisture
Sealer: Olive oil
Leave-in/Styler: Kinky Curly Knot Today
DT: olive oil and honey

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  • JessiebananaJessiebanana Posts: 940Banned Users
    Perhaps, but I think it has to do with standards of hygiene. It's been a very recent development that the average person could shower everyday.

    Women used to go to salons and get their hair done and that was the only place they really washed their hair. It's why we have iconic images of women sleeping in rollers and scarves.

    Once a week to everyday shampooing is a big leap.
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  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    JessMess wrote: »
    Since I broke my foot I've been washing my hair in the tub (I did get a shower stool but I'm pretty clumsy with it and on hair-washing days I've found the ol' tub method to work better.) I can't say I've noticed a huge difference in my hair, but it has got me thinking...

    Since teenagerhood, I've always had a frizzy canopy and silky underlayer--had pretty straight, silky hair as a child. I know it was partly just hormones/maturity that changed me, but it's also making me suspicious because that's also when I started to shower regularly and wash my hair daily.

    Do you suppose drenching your hair in still water--where there's no water beating down on your canopy--and rinsing in water that has some lingering conditioner in it--could be better for your hair? Kids--who pretty much use this method--always seem to have nicer, healthier hair. Maybe this is partly why?

    This frizzed-out, I-didn't-even-know-my-hair-was-curly problem also seems to be sort of a modern development, which I'm sure has more to do with hair-care products than anything else, but maybe it also has something to do with the dramatic increase of showers in homes after WWII?

    Should CGers be washing in the tub? Is there already a thread about this somewhere? LOL.

    Showering likely has something to do with it, especially if it's just your canopy. sun damage will too, and how often you have brushed/ combed/ heat styled since we are always likely to focus on the sections that show. Do bear in mind that frequent showers may have been the norm in at least younger US citizens for some time that has not been a worldwide thing nor the same amongst all age groups.

    Plenty of childhood photos (including mine and I had no showers, just a weekly bath and a daily hairbrush assault!) or those of Victorian ladies right through to the 1980s (perms or natural) show major frizz. I think it's only become really socially unacceptable in the west since flat irons became mainstream - it has been suggested that Friends, especially Rachel, was the turning point. As we get older many of us want to wear our hair loose, not in a permanent ponytail or braid, maybe that means the issue of 'straight' frizz is more obvious?
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  • JessMessJessMess Posts: 151Registered Users
    Perhaps, but I think it has to do with standards of hygiene. It's been a very recent development that the average person could shower everyday.

    Women used to go to salons and get their hair done and that was the only place they really washed their hair. It's why we have iconic images of women sleeping in rollers and scarves.

    Once a week to everyday shampooing is a big leap.

    I agree--I guess that's sort of what I mean. But you're saying people were also sleeping in rollers and stuff, too, and no doubt that beat the frizzies into submission! :)
    Jessica
    Type 2c: coarse, high-density, low porosity (so it would seem)
    Avoiding protein and glycerin; going for soft, non-crunchy, frizz-free waves
    CO & RO: Tresemme Naturals Moisture
    Sealer: Olive oil
    Leave-in/Styler: Kinky Curly Knot Today
    DT: olive oil and honey
  • Morgan_AdcockMorgan_Adcock Posts: 2,573Registered Users
    I think the frequency of washing, which changed as showers became more common played a large part in it.

    Prior to that, IME it was more common for people who washed their own hair or their children's hair to wash it in the sink than the bathtub. Though many of the same things apply, the water would have been cleaner. It was also independent of the rest of their bathing schedule.

    Women frequently only had their hair washed in salons, when they went for their weekly or bi-weekly wash and set. Teenagers, and grown women who didn't have regular salon appointments were more likely to set their hair up in a full head of rollers (possibly with a pin curl in front of each ear, and/or for their bangs, just like in the salon, but less likely to use "setting lotion." Once the hair was combed out, liberal applications of hairspray followed. Between sets, they'd sleep with their hair covered with nets, and their bangs taped down – très enchanté.

    When blow dryers arrived, it became possible to wrap your hair around a (round) brush, section by section, and really get some traction on it, pulling curl out of all but the ends, if you so chose, but it had to be done pretty much daily because of the weird things which happen to curly hair when it's slept on, and I suspect that contributed to the popularity of washing hair daily in the shower.
    Peace,
    Morgan

    Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
    CGing since July 2008
  • JessMessJessMess Posts: 151Registered Users
    This is all very interesting hair history!
    Jessica
    Type 2c: coarse, high-density, low porosity (so it would seem)
    Avoiding protein and glycerin; going for soft, non-crunchy, frizz-free waves
    CO & RO: Tresemme Naturals Moisture
    Sealer: Olive oil
    Leave-in/Styler: Kinky Curly Knot Today
    DT: olive oil and honey
  • heyhoheyho Posts: 55Registered Users
    JessMess wrote: »
    I can't say I've noticed a huge difference in my hair, but it has got me thinking...

    I think if you've been doing it but haven't noticed a huge difference, then you may already have an answer to some of your questions... :D
  • JessMessJessMess Posts: 151Registered Users
    Well, it's only been like twice! I just broke my foot last week.
    Jessica
    Type 2c: coarse, high-density, low porosity (so it would seem)
    Avoiding protein and glycerin; going for soft, non-crunchy, frizz-free waves
    CO & RO: Tresemme Naturals Moisture
    Sealer: Olive oil
    Leave-in/Styler: Kinky Curly Knot Today
    DT: olive oil and honey
  • JessiebananaJessiebanana Posts: 940Banned Users
    I'm only 25 and my mom washed my hair in the sink. She use a attachment though, so it had a similar effect to a shower. My mom was born at the start of the 50s though.
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  • heyhoheyho Posts: 55Registered Users
    JessMess wrote: »
    Well, it's only been like twice! I just broke my foot last week.

    Ahhhh, okay. Keep us posted over the next few weeks, will be interesting to see!
  • wavydazewavydaze Posts: 2,061Registered Users
    Reading the CG handbook opened my eyes to the "straightening" effect of the shower head. Generally my underlayers are curlier, but when I tried doing everything in the shower upside down, it became inverse and my canopy became the curliest and my underlayers became straighter. I think washing your hair in still water could prevent some of the "shower head straightening" effect. It makes total sense why a shower head, especially a stronger one, down on your locks would make a difference, especially if you're using hot water.... don't know why I never thought about that before reading the book.
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  • JessMessJessMess Posts: 151Registered Users
    So yesterday I did a DT with olive oil and honey and then co-washed in the tub. GREAT results, and I have no doubt it's partly because rinsing in the tub left a very diluted, evenly distributed film of the DT on my hair (and my skin, too, which is...weird but still moisturizing too, I guess!)
    Jessica
    Type 2c: coarse, high-density, low porosity (so it would seem)
    Avoiding protein and glycerin; going for soft, non-crunchy, frizz-free waves
    CO & RO: Tresemme Naturals Moisture
    Sealer: Olive oil
    Leave-in/Styler: Kinky Curly Knot Today
    DT: olive oil and honey
  • AabidaAabida Posts: 55Registered Users
    Sorry about the broken foot. It must've hurt! Hope you recover well and soon.

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