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The Body Shop Products

I'm curious about them. They're readily available in store here and not that expensive so I'd love to hear your opinion. Below are all the products available that I believe are CG. Curious to see what you think about the ingredients and whether you regard them as natural because I'm not quite sure (I'm getting better and better at identifying ingredients but I'm not quite there yet).

As for my specific hair needs, no SLS, no silicones, preferably no polyquats (and I know that they are in there so hope to hear about other people's experiences) and it should not be too heavy as my hair gets weighed down easily. Proteins are preferred.

Rainforest Moisture Shampoo

Aqua, Sucrose, Disodium Cocoyl Glutamate, Lauryl Betaine, Laureth-5 Carboxylic Acid, Mel, PEG-55 Propylene Glycol Oleate, Propylene Glycol, Sodium Chloride, Glycerin, Parfum, Polyglyceryl-4 Caprate, Sodium Benzoate, Sucrose Laurate, Isopropyl Alcohol, Polyquaternium-6, Salicylic Acid, Citric Acid, Schinziophyton Rautanenii Kernel Oil, Pentaclethra Macroloba Seed Oil, Sodium Hydroxide, Tocopherol.

Rainforest Moisture Conditioner

Aqua, Cetearyl Alcohol, Distearoylethyl Hydroxyethylmonium Methosulfate, Cocos Nucifera Oil, Orbignya Oleifera Seed Oil, Citric Acid, Cetyl Esters, Sodium Benzoate, Parfum, Hydroxypropyl Guar, Schinziophyton Rautanenii Kernel Oil, Salicylic Acid, Mel, Pentaclethra Macroloba Seed Oil, Tocopherol.

Rainforest Shine Shampoo

Aqua, Sucrose, Disodium Cocoyl Glutamate, Lauryl Betaine, Laureth-5 Carboxylic Acid, PEG-55 Propylene Glycol Oleate, Propylene Glycol, Sodium Chloride, Glycerin, Parfum, Polyglyceryl-4 Caprate, Sodium Benzoate, Sucrose Laurate, Isopropyl Alcohol, Polyquaternium-6, Salicylic Acid, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Geraniol, Camelina Sativa Seed Oil, Citric Acid, Olea Europaea Fruit Oil, Pentaclethra Macroloba Seed Oil, Sodium Hydroxide, Tocopherol.

Rainforest Shine Conditioner

Aqua, Glyceryl Stearate, Cetearyl Alcohol, Distearoylethyl Hydroxyethylmonium Methosulfate, Glycerin, Sodium Benzoate, Parfum, Hydroxypropyl Guar, Salicylic Acid, Camelina Sativa Seed Oil, Olea Europaea Fruit Oil, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Pentaclethra Macroloba Seed Oil, Citric Acid, Tocopherol.

Rainforest Radiance Shampoo

Aqua (Solvent/Diluent), Sucrose (Depilatory Agent), Disodium Cocoyl Glutamate (Surfactant), Lauryl Betaine (Surfactant), Laureth-5 Carboxylic Acid (Surfactant - Cleansing Agent), Sodium Chloride (Viscosity Modifier), PEG-55 Propylene Glycol Oleate (Surfactant), Propylene Glycol (Humectant), Polyglyceryl-4 Caprate (Skin-Conditioning Agent), Glycerin (Humectant), Parfum (Fragrance), Sucrose Laurate (Skin-Conditioning Agent), Sodium Benzoate (Preservative), Isopropyl Alcohol (Solvent), Polyquaternium-6 (Conditioner), Salicylic Acid (Preservative/Hair Conditioner), Citric Acid (pH Adjuster), Pentaclethra Macroloba Seed Oil (Skin-Conditioning Agent), Vaccinium Myrtillus Fruit Extract (Skin-Conditioning Agent), Ethylhexyl Methoxycinnamate (Sunscreen), Linum Usitatissimum Seed Oil (Fragrance Ingredient), Sodium Hydroxide (pH Adjuster), Tocopherol (Antioxidant).

Rainforest Radiance Condtioner

Aqua (Solvent/Diluent), Cetearyl Alcohol (Emulsifier), Glyceryl Stearate (Emulsifier), Distearoylethyl Hydroxyethylmonium Methosulfate (Antistatic Agent), Glycine Soja Oil (Emollient/Skin Conditioner), Polyglyceryl-4 Caprate (Skin-Conditioning Agent), Glycerin (Humectant), Parfum (Fragrance), Sodium Benzoate (Preservative), Sucrose Laurate (Skin-Conditioning Agent), Hydroxypropyl Guar (Emulsion stabilizer, Viscocity increasing agent), Linum Usitatissimum Seed Oil (Fragrance Ingredient), Salicylic Acid (Preservative/Hair Conditioner), Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice (Skin Conditioning Agent), Ethylhexyl Methoxycinnamate (Sunscreen), Pentaclethra Macroloba Seed Oil (Skin-Conditioning Agent), Citric Acid (pH Adjuster), Vaccinium Myrtillus Fruit Extract (Skin-Conditioning Agent), Tocopherol (Antioxidant).

Rainforest Balance Shampoo

Aqua, Sucrose, Disodium Cocoyl Glutamate, Lauryl Betaine, Laureth-5 Carboxylic Acid, Propylene Glycol, PEG-55 Propylene Glycol Oleate, Sodium Chloride, Glycerin, Polyglyceryl-4 Caprate, Parfum, Sucrose Laurate, Sodium Benzoate, Isopropyl Alcohol, Salicylic Acid, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Fucus Vesiculosus Extract, Alcohol, Citric Acid, Pentaclethra Macroloba Seed Oil, Lamium Album Extract, Sodium Hydroxide, Tocopherol.

Rainforest Balance Conditioner

Aqua, Kaolin, Glyceryl Stearate, Cetearyl Alcohol, Distearoylethyl Hydroxyethylmonium Methosulfate, Glycerin, Simmondsia Chinensis Seed Oil, Parfum, Hydroxypropyl Guar, Propylene Glycol, Fucus Vesiculosus Extract, Salicylic Acid, Sodium Benzoate, Pentaclethra Macroloba Seed Oil, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Alcohol, Citric Acid, Lamium Album Extract, Sodium Hydroxide, Tocopherol.

Purely based on the ingredients, I think I'd prefer the Rainforest Balance line. However, seeing that I cannot identify so many ingredients makes me think it's perhaps not as natural as I'd like.
F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Petal Fresh Organics Rosemary & Mint Volumizing Shampoo
Protein: Colorful Neutral Protein Filler
Detangler/RO: KCKT (winter) or Curl Junkie Beauticurls Argan & Olive Oil (summer)
Styling: KCCC

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Comments

  • Aqua_LilyAqua_Lily Posts: 557Registered Users
    oooh The Body Shop! I LOVE the Rainforest Moisture conditioner. It might even be one of my top products. Though, I think it's too heavy for you!

    I also have the Rainforest Moisture hair butter! Which is totally great too! And I have a mini of the Rainforest Moisture shampoo, which I haven't tried out yet but will.

    (Btw, why do you want ingredients to be natural..? There are natural ingredients that are bad for the hair (like isopropyl alcohol), and non-natural ingredients that are good for the hair...)
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    Current length: tailbone
    Goal length: mid-thigh (wet)
    3A/2C M iii med por, high elast

    HGs:
    Clarify: Nivea
    Lo-poo: Nature's Gate
    CW: Elvive Volume Collagen
    RO: EO Keratin, Desert Essence Raspberry

    LI: Elvive volume collagen, KCKT
    Seal: Grapeseed oil
    Gel: Studioline

    PT: EO Keratin co
    DT: RO+oils
    Hairgrowth stim.: JBCO+EVCO


    www.iherb.com 5-10$ discount code:
    VHT541 Many natural hair products! :D
  • LauraimesLauraimes Posts: 880Registered Users
    I guess there's not even really a rational idea behind me wanting to use natural products... I've been all natural for quite a few years now. Maybe it's coming from my food philosophy: I want to eat real food, so no additives etc.

    However, natural products are so expensive and difficult to get that I'm looking for alternatives like Dr. Organic and the Body Shop.
    F - LP - HD - NE
    Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
    Hairtype 2c

    Low poo: Petal Fresh Organics Rosemary & Mint Volumizing Shampoo
    Protein: Colorful Neutral Protein Filler
    Detangler/RO: KCKT (winter) or Curl Junkie Beauticurls Argan & Olive Oil (summer)
    Styling: KCCC

    Beauty Is Not a Number
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    Body Shop haven't been natural for many years, that's just marketing.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • NelekeNeleke Posts: 456Registered Users
    I like the Rainforest Radiance Shampoo.
    It gives a lot of lather and you can do a looong time with just one bottle (I used to use a bottle of shampoo every 3 weeks or so... now I'm using that shampoo almost every wash since the beginning of March and the bottle is almost empty and it was the small bottle of 6,5€ not the big bottle)

    I personally do not like the rainforest radiance conditioner since it was too thick and I had problems squeezing it out of the bottle.
    2c: fine texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity, normal-high density
    CG since March 8th 2013
    Low Poo: Rainforest Radiance shampoo
    Conditioner: Yes to Cucumbers
    Styler: BRHG, Garnier Fructis Gel
    PT: Gliss Kur Repair & Volume

    iherb.com: get a 5$ discount on orders under 40$ or a 10$ discount on orders over 40$ when you order for your first order by using the following discount code: CFH441
  • kleinehexekleinehexe Posts: 80Registered Users
    There is salt in a few of those products. I thought salt was drying to hair.
  • JessiebananaJessiebanana Posts: 940Banned Users
    kleinehexe wrote: »
    There is salt in a few of those products. I thought salt was drying to hair.

    It is for me. A lot of wavies like salt for the curl enhancing properties.
    3C/Fine to Medium/Low Porosity/High Density

    :love5:MoistureMoistureMoisture:love5:

    Low Poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo
    RO/DC: DB Pumpkin Seed Curl Moisturizing Conditioner
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: Queen Helene Sculpturing Gel & Glaze

    No Salts, No Waxes, No Butters, No Heavy Oils
    No ACV, No Saponified Oils, Protein Sensitive
  • kleinehexekleinehexe Posts: 80Registered Users
    So if my hair is not dry and is low porosity (that's my guess) will salt harm it? Is this one of those things I just need to try?
  • LauraimesLauraimes Posts: 880Registered Users
    Firefox, I figured it would me marketing. Would you use the Body Shop products?

    Neleke, question for you: what do you think about the cottonseed curl booster? I checked our shop yesterday and saw they had it in stock whereas it's not on the website.

    With regards to the salt: I think it's something you have to try. It probably depends on both your hair and routine whether you like it or not.
    F - LP - HD - NE
    Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
    Hairtype 2c

    Low poo: Petal Fresh Organics Rosemary & Mint Volumizing Shampoo
    Protein: Colorful Neutral Protein Filler
    Detangler/RO: KCKT (winter) or Curl Junkie Beauticurls Argan & Olive Oil (summer)
    Styling: KCCC

    Beauty Is Not a Number
  • wavydazewavydaze Posts: 2,061Registered Users
    Hi there!

    I've tried the Rainforest Moisture line:

    Shampoo:
    hated.

    Conditioner:
    liked

    Hair Butter:
    liked

    Rainforest Radiance Condish:
    liked


    The conditioners were nice and gave me a good amount of clumpage, I don't know what ingredients contribute to clumpage. If I'm traveling somewhere and I happen to run out of my usual products I would buy these (Body Shop seems ubiquitous). The shampoo was drying on me though.
    2bc/ f / ii. low porosity roots + normal-high porosity shaft where bleached. normal elasticity.

    Currently using:
    Poo: Earthbath Oatmeal & Aloe
    RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: UFD CM, CJ PP
    PT: CJ Repair Me

    :thumright: hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
    :angry8: guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
    Neutral on cones.

    iherb discount code: CFN646
  • turquoisecurlsturquoisecurls Posts: 134Registered Users
    I tried the cottonseed curl booster before ever hearing about CG. I did not like it then, it just sat on my highly porous hair and never soaked in.
    2c/3a cg 01/10/13

    Hair Properties: low( first 4 inches) / high porosity, medium density, fine/medium texture Climate : hot humid summer, coastal GA

    Co-wash: Suave Naturals Coconut / Everlasting Sunshine, V05
    Rinse out :Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture, VO5 ocean refresh
    LI: SMCHM ,SMCS, JCRR,
    Gel: La Looks sport, Volumax mega gel,Biosilk Rock Hard gel my HG

    Love ACV , pedaheh's gelatin treatment
    My hair hates everything Deva curl and Curl Keeper,
  • wavydazewavydaze Posts: 2,061Registered Users
    Oh yeah, also I don't like the smell of the Moisture line (the Radiance is better) but performance trumps smell for me in hair products (unless the smell is just awful and/or lingers).
    2bc/ f / ii. low porosity roots + normal-high porosity shaft where bleached. normal elasticity.

    Currently using:
    Poo: Earthbath Oatmeal & Aloe
    RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: UFD CM, CJ PP
    PT: CJ Repair Me

    :thumright: hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
    :angry8: guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
    Neutral on cones.

    iherb discount code: CFN646
  • brownsugar1516brownsugar1516 Posts: 60Registered Users
    There's a groupon $20 for $10

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  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    Lauraimes wrote: »
    Firefox, I figured it would me marketing. Would you use the Body Shop products?

    Neleke, question for you: what do you think about the cottonseed curl booster? I checked our shop yesterday and saw they had it in stock whereas it's not on the website.

    With regards to the salt: I think it's something you have to try. It probably depends on both your hair and routine whether you like it or not.

    I actually would use certain items: I bought the Cottonseed Curl Booster after my hair guru Neleke mentioned it but haven't used it much yet. I would try the Rainforest Moisture conditioner if I didn't already have a MAHOOSIVE stash of conditioners! Might be a bit rich for you tho, I have high porosity. Not anti the shampoos, I just don't use them.

    The salt is quite possibly just there as a thickener not in sufficient quantities to be drying. It is used for that purpose in shampoos.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • JessiebananaJessiebanana Posts: 940Banned Users
    That banana conditioner smells wonderful. I almost bought it on the spot.

    The moisture conditioner is the only one that's aloe free, so it's the only rainforest one I could be tempted to try.
    3C/Fine to Medium/Low Porosity/High Density

    :love5:MoistureMoistureMoisture:love5:

    Low Poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo
    RO/DC: DB Pumpkin Seed Curl Moisturizing Conditioner
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: Queen Helene Sculpturing Gel & Glaze

    No Salts, No Waxes, No Butters, No Heavy Oils
    No ACV, No Saponified Oils, Protein Sensitive
  • WavyRooWavyRoo Posts: 195Registered Users
    There's a Body Shop in my mall - guess where I'm going today! PJ wins again...
    2C normal/high porosity?, medium/coarse texture, lower density
    Cleanse: Pura D'Or every week or two, Yes to Cukes
    Conditioner: VO5 Kiwi Lime (LOVE!), Tresemme Naturals, YTC
    DT: GVP Conditioning Balm w/ coconut oil
    LI: a touch of JCTS
    Products: my HG is Tresemme Bouncy Curls Defining Gel mixed with a touch of BRHG over a little flax seed gel, SM Souflee/Milk for 2nd day hair, occasionally Bioterra Curling Creme and Gel
    Modified CG since November 2012- finally found what works! :)
  • WavyRooWavyRoo Posts: 195Registered Users
    AND a groupon! OMG. Rapture.
    2C normal/high porosity?, medium/coarse texture, lower density
    Cleanse: Pura D'Or every week or two, Yes to Cukes
    Conditioner: VO5 Kiwi Lime (LOVE!), Tresemme Naturals, YTC
    DT: GVP Conditioning Balm w/ coconut oil
    LI: a touch of JCTS
    Products: my HG is Tresemme Bouncy Curls Defining Gel mixed with a touch of BRHG over a little flax seed gel, SM Souflee/Milk for 2nd day hair, occasionally Bioterra Curling Creme and Gel
    Modified CG since November 2012- finally found what works! :)
  • JessiebananaJessiebanana Posts: 940Banned Users
    Lauraimes wrote: »
    I guess there's not even really a rational idea behind me wanting to use natural products... I've been all natural for quite a few years now. Maybe it's coming from my food philosophy: I want to eat real food, so no additives etc.

    However, natural products are so expensive and difficult to get that I'm looking for alternatives like Dr. Organic and the Body Shop.

    I think you have to be really careful about only using natural ingredients topically. When people think of natural ingredients I think they're most referring to whole ingredients.

    I am the hugest whole/real food person, in terms of what I consume, because I our bodies were designed to pull out and break down food into usable proteins, vitamins, sugars, etc. and I think processed foods interfere with that and can give us a "high" on things we don't need.

    With that said hair and skin are very different. Our hair doesn't have the ability to break down proteins, extract glycerin, and oils. These ingredients are derived from natural products (well glycerin can be synthetic), but they are listed by their chemical component name and it took some unnatural processes to make it happen. We have to make whole ingredients useful to our skin and hair, if we don't we'd be better off eating it.

    I think it's one thing to avoid harmful ingredients and opt for gentler ones. Processed or synthetic ingredients can be a lot more concentrated, making them more harmful, but we shouldn't be afraid of them as a whole. Also, not all natural things are the bees knees. You wouldn't go swim in a sulfur lake, or a lava flow, or rub a toxin excreting frog or poison oak on your face and they're all naturally occurring. Many botanical ingredients are very potent and irritating to the skin.
    3C/Fine to Medium/Low Porosity/High Density

    :love5:MoistureMoistureMoisture:love5:

    Low Poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo
    RO/DC: DB Pumpkin Seed Curl Moisturizing Conditioner
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: Queen Helene Sculpturing Gel & Glaze

    No Salts, No Waxes, No Butters, No Heavy Oils
    No ACV, No Saponified Oils, Protein Sensitive
  • LauraimesLauraimes Posts: 880Registered Users
    Jessiebanana, thank you so much. You have given me some food for thought, and I really appreciate that! I definitely share your views with regards to food and I'm curious to hear more about the products you choose for hair/skin care, and more specifically, why. Getting insights in someone else's considerations may help me to review my own views. I'm open to change my current ideas and learn new things/approach it from a different angle.
    F - LP - HD - NE
    Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
    Hairtype 2c

    Low poo: Petal Fresh Organics Rosemary & Mint Volumizing Shampoo
    Protein: Colorful Neutral Protein Filler
    Detangler/RO: KCKT (winter) or Curl Junkie Beauticurls Argan & Olive Oil (summer)
    Styling: KCCC

    Beauty Is Not a Number
  • SmilingElephantSmilingElephant Posts: 666Registered Users
    WavyRoo wrote: »
    There's a Body Shop in my mall - guess where I'm going today! PJ wins again...

    DITTO!!! I posted in the other Body Shop thread....but this is what i got today...i rarely shop in the Body Shop but i HAD to go especially with a groupon!:

    -Wooden Comb that i hear so many rave about
    -Banana Conditioner bc i love everything bananas!
    -2 mini body scrubs

    I can't wait to try my comb on my hair in the morning!!:blob2:
    2yrs 7 months post relaxer/2 years and 11 months natural

    Cleanse: SM Moisture Retention or Suave Naturals shampoos
    Co-Wash: Suave Naturals, L'Oreal EverCreme or EverCurl
    RO/Detangler: Tresseme Naturals:nemo:, GVPCB
    Leave-In: SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie, TN, GVPCB
    Styler: EcoStyler, GF Pure Clean gel, KCCC

    Just discovering my hair likes protein! :dontknow:

    :wav:
  • NelekeNeleke Posts: 456Registered Users
    about the cotton seed curl booster: I think I like it...
    I didn't have bad experiences with it yet, but I didn't use it the last 3 weeks or so because I'm experimenting with KCCC...

    I did have great results using it on dry hair though! So it might have good 2nd day hair performance.

    I am a bit afraid to use it though since it has 2 polyquats (37 and 72 or something like that) and I am afraid of using any polyquat and MO although I don't think I had bad results using them earlier (I'm just afraid of ingredients that give people bad results... paranoia I guess)

    I would say: try one bottle and you will know if you like it or not?
    I liked it but the polyquats scare me... (probably for no reason though, I'm just in a "scared of a lot of ingredients"-period I think)
    2c: fine texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity, normal-high density
    CG since March 8th 2013
    Low Poo: Rainforest Radiance shampoo
    Conditioner: Yes to Cucumbers
    Styler: BRHG, Garnier Fructis Gel
    PT: Gliss Kur Repair & Volume

    iherb.com: get a 5$ discount on orders under 40$ or a 10$ discount on orders over 40$ when you order for your first order by using the following discount code: CFH441
  • wavydazewavydaze Posts: 2,061Registered Users
    I just wanted to post my thoughts on natural products. I completely agree with Jessiebanana that it is erroneous to conflate "natural" with "safe." On a chemical level, molecules are molecules anyway, and if an ingredient "sounds chemical-y" it doesn't mean it's bad for you or your hair fatty alcohols being a good example.

    That being said, I do like to run my products and ingredients by Skin Deep, and I'll spend time on the site discovering new companies as well. Skin Deep® Cosmetics Database | Environmental Working Group Interestingly, the small natural boutiques that have a health and eco-conscious approach often score the best. Generally these kinds of companies tend to avoid putting things like parabens and DMDM hydantoin in their products. I'm talking about the companies that are dedicated to their cause, not the greenwashing types.

    Bigger companies can certainly make safe products, but often I run into situations like this one: I just bought the CeraVe cleanser and lotion which I've been using on my face, and i really like it, think it's helping with my acne, except it has parabens in it. The product scored well on the site, except for the parabens. This really annoys me, I don't really want to use something that is good for my skin but ultimately bad for my body.

    If you're using something on your skin or hair that is actually edible like FSG (would probably taste bad) there's no way that it could worse for you than a store-bought gel (unless of course, you're allergic to flax or it's gone bad).
    A well-formulated health-oriented store-bought gel shouldn't be a problem however. You have to dig a little bit, run some searches and make the best decision based on all the literature available at the time of purchase. In the long run, we may find that even more ingredients are possibly problematic, even the ones deemed safe at one point. This gives some people the attitude of "well I'll just use whatever anyway." I disagree with this. If an ingredient has links to cancer I don't see any reason why I would continue using it. If other ingredients are deemed not as safe in the future, then I'll stop using those as well.
    2bc/ f / ii. low porosity roots + normal-high porosity shaft where bleached. normal elasticity.

    Currently using:
    Poo: Earthbath Oatmeal & Aloe
    RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: UFD CM, CJ PP
    PT: CJ Repair Me

    :thumright: hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
    :angry8: guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
    Neutral on cones.

    iherb discount code: CFN646
  • JessiebananaJessiebanana Posts: 940Banned Users
    Neleke wrote: »
    about the cotton seed curl booster: I think I like it...
    I didn't have bad experiences with it yet, but I didn't use it the last 3 weeks or so because I'm experimenting with KCCC...

    I did have great results using it on dry hair though! So it might have good 2nd day hair performance.

    I am a bit afraid to use it though since it has 2 polyquats (37 and 72 or something like that) and I am afraid of using any polyquat and MO although I don't think I had bad results using them earlier (I'm just afraid of ingredients that give people bad results... paranoia I guess)

    I would say: try one bottle and you will know if you like it or not?
    I liked it but the polyquats scare me... (probably for no reason though, I'm just in a "scared of a lot of ingredients"-period I think)

    Okay, there is no point in being afraid of something you've already purchased. Second, not all polyquats are the same and lastly a large number of people have no issues with polyquats. Those of us who've had issues come on here to share our experiences in the hopes they may help someone who is having unexplainable problems with their hair...not to scare the living daylights out of people.

    Even if you did, simply clarify and don't use them again. It really isn't worth worrying about. I promise.
    3C/Fine to Medium/Low Porosity/High Density

    :love5:MoistureMoistureMoisture:love5:

    Low Poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo
    RO/DC: DB Pumpkin Seed Curl Moisturizing Conditioner
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: Queen Helene Sculpturing Gel & Glaze

    No Salts, No Waxes, No Butters, No Heavy Oils
    No ACV, No Saponified Oils, Protein Sensitive
  • turquoisecurlsturquoisecurls Posts: 134Registered Users
    Thank you for the link wavydaze! I just bought a natures gate shampoo today and I checked it there, what an eye opener! If I buy a run of the mill hair product like suave I don't expect a good score, but a "natural" product , I would expect more!
    2c/3a cg 01/10/13

    Hair Properties: low( first 4 inches) / high porosity, medium density, fine/medium texture Climate : hot humid summer, coastal GA

    Co-wash: Suave Naturals Coconut / Everlasting Sunshine, V05
    Rinse out :Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture, VO5 ocean refresh
    LI: SMCHM ,SMCS, JCRR,
    Gel: La Looks sport, Volumax mega gel,Biosilk Rock Hard gel my HG

    Love ACV , pedaheh's gelatin treatment
    My hair hates everything Deva curl and Curl Keeper,
  • laura1982laura1982 Posts: 69Registered Users
    I love the curl cream, I use the shampoo mixed with a little of my own condish and seems to work ok. Not that taken o the rainforest conditioners but would like to try the banana one...

    My body shop did trial sizes of the shampoo and condish so I've tried most of them.

    In terms of commercial products I like the body shop range better than treseme naturals....
    :)
  • wavydazewavydaze Posts: 2,061Registered Users
    Thank you for the link wavydaze! I just bought a natures gate shampoo today and I checked it there, what an eye opener! If I buy a run of the mill hair product like suave I don't expect a good score, but a "natural" product , I would expect more!

    Which NG shampoo was it and what ingredients were the biggest offenders? I think NG is one of the better brands out there but it may depend on specific product. I really like their conditioners! I just did a search on them and it seems most of them get a 4 from Skin Deep with the biggest offender being fragrance. I think a score of 4 is okay, but of course if I find a similar condish with a score of 0 or 1 then I'll switch to that one!
    2bc/ f / ii. low porosity roots + normal-high porosity shaft where bleached. normal elasticity.

    Currently using:
    Poo: Earthbath Oatmeal & Aloe
    RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: UFD CM, CJ PP
    PT: CJ Repair Me

    :thumright: hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
    :angry8: guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
    Neutral on cones.

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  • LauraimesLauraimes Posts: 880Registered Users
    Neleke, I'm with Jessiebanana. If you don't experience any problems, then don't be afraid to use it. So many people here can't use glycerin and stay away from it whereas I rarely get any frizz from glycerin. I'm not afraid to use it because I know I don't get the bad reaction most people get.

    Also, I think you hear so many negative things about polyquats because people only bring it up when they have problems with them, and not when everything's fine. Most people probably don't experience any problems with polyquats but we don't notice because it's not out there on the boards.

    Wavydaze, thank you so much for your contribution and sharing your views as well as the Skin Deep Cosmetic Database. I'm going to run some products in the database as soon as I'm done typing this post!

    Laura1982, what curl cream are you talking about? Is the Cottonseed curl booster a cream? Please tell me more about it!

    I'm so happy with all the responses. Please keep them coming!

    By the way, the Cottonseed Curl Booster is just €6,- now. Bit scared of the polyquats though because they have caused problems for me in the past. Oh what to do, what to do.
    F - LP - HD - NE
    Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
    Hairtype 2c

    Low poo: Petal Fresh Organics Rosemary & Mint Volumizing Shampoo
    Protein: Colorful Neutral Protein Filler
    Detangler/RO: KCKT (winter) or Curl Junkie Beauticurls Argan & Olive Oil (summer)
    Styling: KCCC

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  • laura1982laura1982 Posts: 69Registered Users
    Yes - it's the cottonseed curl booster - I have fine hair, 2b/c, normal porisity so anything heavy or rich doesn't work for me. The curl cream is light weight, not greasy, seems to reduce frizz (although I don't get much) and has a light hold. I'm not sure about clumping as I finger twist.... I tend to apply it when my hair is quite wet, plop then twist...
    HTH :)
  • kleinehexekleinehexe Posts: 80Registered Users
    I love the Skin Deep site. I never buy a sunscreen without checking there first.

    That said there are products I use even if they score badly. For example my Paula's Choice products. I have not ever ever found anything that has helped my acne and complexion as much as her products. So I look at the ingredients and weight the risks vs. benefits.
  • NelekeNeleke Posts: 456Registered Users
    I would just try one bottle of the curl booster.

    Jessiebanana & Lauraimes: I will try not to be afraid again... but it's just that I easily get frizz, and I don't need more of that (I'm also avoiding humectants now, but that's also because our dews are around 65 now). I think I am scared that my hair will gradually get worse, not at once, and that I won't be able to notice myself what the thing causing the bad results would be... I guess that's why I trying to avoid almost everything people have problems with, although that seems to be quite impossible.

    I promise I will use the curl booster tomorrow :p. (I've had 2-3 weeks of KCCC experimenting, so now I can use another thing again without experimenting too much).
    2c: fine texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity, normal-high density
    CG since March 8th 2013
    Low Poo: Rainforest Radiance shampoo
    Conditioner: Yes to Cucumbers
    Styler: BRHG, Garnier Fructis Gel
    PT: Gliss Kur Repair & Volume

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  • LauraimesLauraimes Posts: 880Registered Users
    Laura1982, sounds very promising! My hair also gets weighed down easily so I could definitely benefit from something that is lightweight. I always apply product on really wet hair, then plop. I don't twist but clumping is not really a major thing for me. It's nice when it clumps but if I get less clumps, I get more volume which is just as nice. Do you use it alone or with other products? I'm asking because layering doesn't work for me, so I use one styling product at a time.

    Neleke, being scared is definitely not helping your hair journey. Notice that polyquats usually don't result in frizz unless your hair is wet. I remember I used a gel that had them and whenever it rained, I got massive frizz, but never when wet. That's why I think you shouldn't worry about frizz, especially not if you don't experience any other problems (like build-up - that's the main reason for me to avoid polyquats).

    By avoiding everything that other people have problems with is quite a difficult task indeed, and what's worse is that you might even miss out on some ingredients that might work wonders for you! I think you'll notice what changes your hair soon enough if you don't experiment too much and observe your hair closely.

    And you don't have to promise us anything ;) How's KCCC working out for you? It's been on my list since forever so I'm curious.
    F - LP - HD - NE
    Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
    Hairtype 2c

    Low poo: Petal Fresh Organics Rosemary & Mint Volumizing Shampoo
    Protein: Colorful Neutral Protein Filler
    Detangler/RO: KCKT (winter) or Curl Junkie Beauticurls Argan & Olive Oil (summer)
    Styling: KCCC

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