New here - controlling frizz question!

gretagirlgretagirl Posts: 5Registered Users
After years of pulling out the curl and half-straightening, I am trying to embrace my ringlets. Yesterday, I ordered some Curl Junkie products, conditioned with Suave Naturals, added some JessieCurl Rockin' Ringlets and a bit of Ouidad Climate and Humidity Gel, and let dry naturally before bedtime. Put my shoulder-length hair (not quite dry) into a loose octopus before bedtime, and woke with curlier ringlets than I realized I had. Shook them out, pinned back sides with a flexi-8 and I was good to go!

A couple of things. First, I was rather shocked that I lost about 4 inches. My hair is about chin length now so I am going to have to seriously grow it out -- I expected to lose some length but not this much!!

Also, the curls are well-defined (3a/3b), but I have some frizz on the top of my head. I was afraid to touch or mess with it too much for fear of make the frizz worse. Does anyone have a suggestions for this? Once the hair is dry, is there a fix for this??

Thanks so much -- am happy to join you all!

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  • curlicious13curlicious13 Posts: 1,632Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I don't know if you're silicone free or conditioner washing, but I do know that the suave naturals line has silicones in them. If you continue to use that conditioner, you will need to buy the suave clarifying shampoo to get rid of the silicones that have built up. Or do a apple cider vinegar rinse which i would cautiously use. Apple cider vinegar can be REALLY drying to the hair & make it shed. The silicone build up is causing you frizz. Also, hydrate you hair as well. If your hair isn't hydrated, it will separate (frizz). Silicones will only temporarily help this & may only help for like a day or two. Coconut, olive, caster, & jojoba oils are really good to add to your deep conditioner on wash day or a hydrating mist with a plastic cap at night. Hope this helps.
  • gretagirlgretagirl Posts: 5Registered Users
    I don't know if you're silicone free or conditioner washing, but I do know that the suave naturals line has silicones in them. If you continue to use that conditioner, you will need to buy the suave clarifying shampoo to get rid of the silicones that have built up. Or do a apple cider vinegar rinse which i would cautiously use. Apple cider vinegar can be REALLY drying to the hair & make it shed. The silicone build up is causing you frizz. Also, hydrate you hair as well. If your hair isn't hydrated, it will separate (frizz). Silicones will only temporarily help this & may only help for like a day or two. Coconut, olive, caster, & jojoba oils are really good to add to your deep conditioner on wash day or a hydrating mist with a plastic cap at night. Hope this helps.

    Thank you! My plan is to co-wash, and I thought I was using something appropriate until the curl junkie arrives! I think I have a sample jessicurl leftover so I may be able to make do in the meantime without buying something else. I guess I will have to expect frizz during the transition, no?!
  • mollymmollym Posts: 31Registered Users
    As far as I know, the Suave Naturals conditioners have no silicone in them (I live in the US). I cowash with them sometimes and never get buildup, though they're not quite moisturizing enough to use as a rinse out or leave in.

    I had A LOT of frizz for 3 or 4 months after I started CG. Deep treatments with moisturizing conditioners and oils helped a ton, as well as finding a good gel.
    CG since July 2012!
    3a; mediumish porosity, medium/coarse, high density
    Cleansers: Suave Naturals, VO5, SM shea butter shampoo, TJ TTT shampoo
    Conditioners: GVPCB, Tresemme Naturals, TJ TTT
    Stylers: LALS, La Bella gel, SM curl milk, coconut/olive oil
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Here are the ingredients for the Suave Naturals Coconut that's really popular around here:

    Water (Aqua), Cetearyl Alcohol, Cetrimonium Chloride, Potassium Chloride, Fragrance (Parfum), Distearyldimonium Chloride, Disodium EDTA, Glycerin, 2 Bromo 2 Nitropropane 3, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone, Propylene Glycol, Silk Amino Acid, Honey/Mel, Nettle (Urtica Dioica) Extract, Rosmarinus Officinalis (Rosemary) Extract, Cocos Nucifera (Coconut) Extract

    As I thought--no silicones (the "one" ingredients are preservatives.)

    The best way to choose ingredients is by hair properties. Here's a link to help you with yours Curly Hair Basics | Live Curly Live Free Once you determine your properties, look for others with hair like yours and see what they use. It's a good place to start.

    It's usually difficult to fix your hair once it has dried. Some things that help fine and/or porous hair is protein.

    A lot of the US is having unusually hot/humid weather. If you don't know what you're doing in these really high dewpoints, you're bound to get a lot of frizz. Best thing you can do is read and learn.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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  • gretagirlgretagirl Posts: 5Registered Users
    Thanks, ladies -- and thank you for looking up the suave ingredients! I wrapped in honey and olive oil last night, which really helped with the frizz today. Hair is almost too curly and defined -- am not used to the look!!! Am trying not to give into the urge to straighten. Just wish it were four or five inches longer curly . . . I need patience ...
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Suave naturals doesn't have silicones, but the Ouidad heat & humidity gel does. If you intend to strictly cowash, you'll need to use a shampoo with coco betaine or sulphates to remove the cones before you "start" the CG method.

    Lots of curlies use some silicones in their styling products, so it's up to you to decide the extent you follow the method. Just understand if you do want to continue to use cones, you have to shampoo. But a low poo with coco betaine will remove them without having to use sulphates.

    What CJ stuff did you order? I LOVE her stuff!!!!

    Another key for frizz control is moisture balance. If you live in a humid area, you want to make sure your hair is well conditioned so it doesn't try to "borrow" moisture from the air causing frizz. Usually upping the use of protein helps as well. Make sure every strand of hair is covered with product, so application technique is very important. I use an obscene amount of product. This isn't the rule for everyone, but it is for me. Sealing with oils can help as well.
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • gretagirlgretagirl Posts: 5Registered Users
    chloe92us wrote: »
    Suave naturals doesn't have silicones, but the Ouidad heat & humidity gel does. If you intend to strictly cowash, you'll need to use a shampoo with coco betaine or sulphates to remove the cones before you "start" the CG method.

    Lots of curlies use some silicones in their styling products, so it's up to you to decide the extent you follow the method. Just understand if you do want to continue to use cones, you have to shampoo. But a low poo with coco betaine will remove them without having to use sulphates.

    What CJ stuff did you order? I LOVE her stuff!!!!

    Another key for frizz control is moisture balance. If you live in a humid area, you want to make sure your hair is well conditioned so it doesn't try to "borrow" moisture from the air causing frizz. Usually upping the use of protein helps as well. Make sure every strand of hair is covered with product, so application technique is very important. I use an obscene amount of product. This isn't the rule for everyone, but it is for me. Sealing with oils can help as well.

    Thanks, Chloe! I went a little crazy with the CJ. ;-) Daily Fix Cleansing Hair Conditioner, Gentle Cleansing Shampoo, Curls in a Bottle, Deep Fix, BeautiCurls LeaveIn. I had tried some samples, and hopefully my hair will feel spoiled with the haul! I have been using a mix of JessiCurl and Ouidad -- JessiCurl works better for me but am not a fan of the scents.
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I have all but the deep fix- that's next on my list! I am totally obsessed with the daily fix...AMAZING stuff!!!!
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • gretagirlgretagirl Posts: 5Registered Users
    chloe92us wrote: »
    I have all but the deep fix- that's next on my list! I am totally obsessed with the daily fix...AMAZING stuff!!!!

    Good to know! I got the shipping notice today so I will be waiting impatiently ... I love new products!

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