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Tips for decreasing bulk?

I have very very thick 3b/c hair that's *really* made of s-shaped curly wave things. It seems to be a normal volume immediately after conditioning, and even after air drying. After several hours though, my hair puffs up considerably. There's lots of air between the strands. It's so annoying. Is there anything I can do to decrease the levels of bulk besides allowing my hair to dry in a bun or braids? (That causes the dry time to be 2-3 days for me.) Thanks!
3b/c coarse, porous (I think), and THICK! Mod CG since: 10/11/08
Avoiding humectants and protein!

Comments

  • JessiebananaJessiebanana Posts: 940Banned Users
    curlicarly wrote: »
    I have very very thick 3b/c hair that's *really* made of s-shaped curly wave things. It seems to be a normal volume immediately after conditioning, and even after air drying. After several hours though, my hair puffs up considerably. There's lots of air between the strands. It's so annoying. Is there anything I can do to decrease the levels of bulk besides allowing my hair to dry in a bun or braids? (That causes the dry time to be 2-3 days for me.) Thanks!

    Most people with tightly curly hair need cream or gel styling product to keep down the fluff.
    3C/Fine to Medium/Low Porosity/High Density

    :love5:MoistureMoistureMoisture:love5:

    Low Poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo
    RO/DC: DB Pumpkin Seed Curl Moisturizing Conditioner
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: Queen Helene Sculpturing Gel & Glaze

    No Salts, No Waxes, No Butters, No Heavy Oils
    No ACV, No Saponified Oils, Protein Sensitive
  • multicultcurlymulticultcurly Posts: 5,134Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    curlicarly wrote: »
    I have very very thick 3b/c hair that's *really* made of s-shaped curly wave things. It seems to be a normal volume immediately after conditioning, and even after air drying. After several hours though, my hair puffs up considerably. There's lots of air between the strands. It's so annoying. Is there anything I can do to decrease the levels of bulk besides allowing my hair to dry in a bun or braids? (That causes the dry time to be 2-3 days for me.) Thanks!

    Most people with tightly curly hair need cream or gel styling product to keep down the fluff.

    And/or leave in conditioner.

    Sent from my HTCEVOV4G using CurlTalk App
    3b/c, medium-coarse, low porosity, high density
    HG: Jessicurl Too Shea and Kinky Curly Curling Custard
    Shampoo: nonsulfate shampoo and Suave Naturals sulfate shampoo when needed
  • curlicarlycurlicarly Posts: 242Registered Users
    Yeah, that's my problem. I soak my hair in leave-in conditioner and gel, and it still turns out poofy! I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

    For reference, this is my hair on a "small" day: /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_mdqyygBK2O1qatxwno1_500.jpg" class="Popup

    And this is what my hair looks like wet:
    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_m57i26vIN01qancbe.jpg" class="Popup
    3b/c coarse, porous (I think), and THICK! Mod CG since: 10/11/08
    Avoiding humectants and protein!
  • SamanthascurlzSamanthascurlz Posts: 1,082Registered Users
    curlicarly wrote: »
    Yeah, that's my problem. I soak my hair in leave-in conditioner and gel, and it still turns out poofy! I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

    For reference, this is my hair on a "small" day: /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_mdqyygBK2O1qatxwno1_500.jpg" class="Popup

    And this is what my hair looks like wet:
    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_m57i26vIN01qancbe.jpg" class="Popup

    your hair seems full of volume, beautiful!
    CG, High Porosity, Fine, Low Density, Medium Elasticity
    Suave, V05, GF Go clean gel, ACV rinses, CO, and Gelatine PT.
    [URL="[url=http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/members/samanthascurlz-albums-evolvement-my-hair.html]Curls[/url]"][/url]Curls
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    What is your full routine at present?

    I think it looks pretty, but if you don't like it you need better clumping, which means way more leave in conditioner (especially containing fatty alcohols) and/ or way more styling cream, maybe make your gel into something like an Ecostyler custard by adding oil. Try doubling what you use at present and see how that works. Also be sure everything is around pH 4.5 to 5.5 and you avoid all anionic surfactants not just sulphates which alter the charge on the hair and can contribute to frizz.

    Be sure to consider your dew points/ humidity and hair properties when choosing products: humectants such as glycerin in very high or low dews can give frizz, porous hair may need a lot of coconut oil to make it less porous.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • JessiebananaJessiebanana Posts: 940Banned Users
    curlicarly wrote: »
    Yeah, that's my problem. I soak my hair in leave-in conditioner and gel, and it still turns out poofy! I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

    For reference, this is my hair on a "small" day: /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_mdqyygBK2O1qatxwno1_500.jpg" class="Popup

    And this is what my hair looks like wet:
    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_m57i26vIN01qancbe.jpg" class="Popup

    You could have more curl definition and "smoothness", but that's going to be the size of your hair either way. Most people with tightly curly hair have a lot of volume. Especially if you have finer hair the difference wet versus dry can be very dramatic.
    3C/Fine to Medium/Low Porosity/High Density

    :love5:MoistureMoistureMoisture:love5:

    Low Poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo
    RO/DC: DB Pumpkin Seed Curl Moisturizing Conditioner
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: Queen Helene Sculpturing Gel & Glaze

    No Salts, No Waxes, No Butters, No Heavy Oils
    No ACV, No Saponified Oils, Protein Sensitive
  • curlicarlycurlicarly Posts: 242Registered Users
    What is your full routine at present?

    I think it looks pretty, but if you don't like it you need better clumping, which means way more leave in conditioner (especially containing fatty alcohols) and/ or way more styling cream, maybe make your gel into something like an Ecostyler custard by adding oil. Try doubling what you use at present and see how that works. Also be sure everything is around pH 4.5 to 5.5 and you avoid all anionic surfactants not just sulphates which alter the charge on the hair and can contribute to frizz.

    Be sure to consider your dew points/ humidity and hair properties when choosing products: humectants such as glycerin in very high or low dews can give frizz, porous hair may need a lot of coconut oil to make it less porous.

    These days I've been conditioning with Herbal Essences Hello Hydration (mostly because it's cheap and I use so much.) I use handfuls on handfuls on handfuls of conditioner. -I know it has cones in it. I tried to go completely silicone free a few years back, but I actually missed the slip/fake hydration that cones gave me.
    I partially rinse the conditioner out, scrunch out some water with a t-shirt, seal with coconut oil and then HESMU gel on top.

    I'm actually not sure about my porosity, because it seems to absorb everything I throw at it, but then it takes days to dry. Could I really mix oil and gel together?
    3b/c coarse, porous (I think), and THICK! Mod CG since: 10/11/08
    Avoiding humectants and protein!
  • KiraSavannahKiraSavannah Posts: 423Registered Users
    What shampoo do you use?
    curlicarly wrote: »
    What is your full routine at present?



    Be sure to consider your dew points/ humidity and hair properties when choosing products: humectants such as glycerin in very high or low dews can give frizz, porous hair may need a lot of coconut oil to make it less porous.

    These days I've been conditioning with Herbal Essences Hello Hydration (mostly because it's cheap and I use so much.) I use handfuls on handfuls on handfuls of conditioner. -I know it has cones in it. I tried to go completely silicone free a few years back, but I actually missed the slip/fake hydration that cones gave me.
    I partially rinse the conditioner out, scrunch out some water with a t-shirt, seal with coconut oil and then HESMU gel on top.

    I'm actually not sure about my porosity, because it seems to absorb everything I throw at it, but then it takes days to dry. Could I really mix oil and gel together?



    Sent from my SGH-T999 using CurlTalk App
    CG/LOC Method's 3b/3c hair SL-Curly/ Goal-MBL Curly:)
    Weekly Poo/Low Poo: some Shea M Poo.
    Weekly Deep Treat-Dermorganic Intensive Hair Masque
    Bi-Weekly RO:Tresseme Naturals - V.Smooth/N.Moisture
    Daily Leave in:Shea Moisture Extra Moisture Detangler
    Daily Oil: Olive Oil & Conut Oil Mix
    Daily Styler: Shea Moisture Curl & Style Milk
  • curlicarlycurlicarly Posts: 242Registered Users
    What shampoo do you use?


    Sent from my SGH-T999 using CurlTalk App

    I mostly co-wash, but when I need to shampoo, I'll use HE hello hydration shampoo. (About once a month)
    3b/c coarse, porous (I think), and THICK! Mod CG since: 10/11/08
    Avoiding humectants and protein!
  • JessiebananaJessiebanana Posts: 940Banned Users
    Your hair may be frizzing from the build up of the cones. Cones in and of themselves aren't bad, but if you're only shampoo'ing once a month it becomes a problem. If you really want to keep using this conditioner you might want to switch to a low poo and cleanse your hair more often.
    3C/Fine to Medium/Low Porosity/High Density

    :love5:MoistureMoistureMoisture:love5:

    Low Poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo
    RO/DC: DB Pumpkin Seed Curl Moisturizing Conditioner
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: Queen Helene Sculpturing Gel & Glaze

    No Salts, No Waxes, No Butters, No Heavy Oils
    No ACV, No Saponified Oils, Protein Sensitive
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    curlicarly wrote: »
    These days I've been conditioning with Herbal Essences Hello Hydration (mostly because it's cheap and I use so much.) I use handfuls on handfuls on handfuls of conditioner. -I know it has cones in it. I tried to go completely silicone free a few years back, but I actually missed the slip/fake hydration that cones gave me.
    I partially rinse the conditioner out, scrunch out some water with a t-shirt, seal with coconut oil and then HESMU gel on top.

    I'm actually not sure about my porosity, because it seems to absorb everything I throw at it, but then it takes days to dry. Could I really mix oil and gel together?

    Agree with Jessiebanana build up could be one issue, handfuls of a lightweight yet coney conditioner doesn't work with conditioner only washing. That is surely not your full routine, are you using a leave in conditioner, deep conditioning and protein treating?

    The build up could also be slowing your hair drying, your routine seems focussed on occlusives/ sealants (coconut oil and silicones), it's not clear that this is balanced with emollients, humectants or protein. Silicones do not aid clumping they can increase frizz or cause stringy hair in excess.

    It's up to you whether you use silicones or not, but it seems to me your modified routine is not giving you the hair you seek. For slip use products at pH ~4.5, conditioners containing a behentrimonium high in the ingredients, aloe vera juice if your dew points permit, for clumping plenty of fatty alcohol rich conditioner.

    DIY Ecostyler custard, no reason why you cannot make it with other gels
    Eco Styler Olive Oil Custard - YouTube
    You can also make your own leave in with Kinky Curly Knot Today (Kimmaytube's recipe) which is notorious for slip/ detangling.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • curlicarlycurlicarly Posts: 242Registered Users
    curlicarly wrote: »
    These days I've been conditioning with Herbal Essences Hello Hydration (mostly because it's cheap and I use so much.) I use handfuls on handfuls on handfuls of conditioner. -I know it has cones in it. I tried to go completely silicone free a few years back, but I actually missed the slip/fake hydration that cones gave me.
    I partially rinse the conditioner out, scrunch out some water with a t-shirt, seal with coconut oil and then HESMU gel on top.

    I'm actually not sure about my porosity, because it seems to absorb everything I throw at it, but then it takes days to dry. Could I really mix oil and gel together?

    Agree with Jessiebanana build up could be one issue, handfuls of a lightweight yet coney conditioner doesn't work with conditioner only washing. That is surely not your full routine, are you using a leave in conditioner, deep conditioning and protein treating?

    The build up could also be slowing your hair drying, your routine seems focussed on occlusives/ sealants (coconut oil and silicones), it's not clear that this is balanced with emollients, humectants or protein. Silicones do not aid clumping they can increase frizz or cause stringy hair in excess.

    It's up to you whether you use silicones or not, but it seems to me your modified routine is not giving you the hair you seek. For slip use products at pH ~4.5, conditioners containing a behentrimonium high in the ingredients, aloe vera juice if your dew points permit, for clumping plenty of fatty alcohol rich conditioner.

    DIY Ecostyler custard, no reason why you cannot make it with other gels
    Eco Styler Olive Oil Custard - YouTube
    You can also make your own leave in with Kinky Curly Knot Today (Kimmaytube's recipe) which is notorious for slip/ detangling.

    I do deep condition every now and then, usually with olive oil and honey. I tend to stay away from protein though because it seems like it dries my hair.

    Thanks for the recommendations! Some questions: how can you tell what pH a product is at? And which alcohols are considered fatty? I'm willing to try going cone-free again, I'm just pretty uneducated. Just bought AOHR conditioner to get started.
    3b/c coarse, porous (I think), and THICK! Mod CG since: 10/11/08
    Avoiding humectants and protein!
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    curlicarly wrote: »
    I do deep condition every now and then, usually with olive oil and honey. I tend to stay away from protein though because it seems like it dries my hair.

    Thanks for the recommendations! Some questions: how can you tell what pH a product is at? And which alcohols are considered fatty? I'm willing to try going cone-free again, I'm just pretty uneducated. Just bought AOHR conditioner to get started.

    Try weekly overnight coconut oil soaks to reduce your porosity since you have it to hand. The lauric acid is a smaller molecule than the oleic acid in olive oil so will penetrate better, it's also associated with increased elasticity and is more 'slippy' which can help with clumping.

    Some companies advertise the pH (eg. Komaza Care, As I Am, Dermorganic are 4.5 to 5.5), some are listed on the Natural Haven blog, otherwise purchase some pH test strips. Note that oils don't have a pH only water based products. All conditioners should be slightly acidic but there is a lot of variation
    THE NATURAL HAVEN: pH of Conditioners
    THE NATURAL HAVEN: pH of Shampoo : The Ultimate List!
    THE NATURAL HAVEN: pH of Leave In Conditioners and Styling Aids

    Fatty alcohols are listed in the 'curl chemist' articles here on NC, the whole series is worth a read
    Ingredients Commonly Found in Hair Care Products
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • curlicarlycurlicarly Posts: 242Registered Users
    curlicarly wrote: »
    I do deep condition every now and then, usually with olive oil and honey. I tend to stay away from protein though because it seems like it dries my hair.

    Thanks for the recommendations! Some questions: how can you tell what pH a product is at? And which alcohols are considered fatty? I'm willing to try going cone-free again, I'm just pretty uneducated. Just bought AOHR conditioner to get started.

    Try weekly overnight coconut oil soaks to reduce your porosity since you have it to hand. The lauric acid is a smaller molecule than the oleic acid in olive oil so will penetrate better, it's also associated with increased elasticity and is more 'slippy' which can help with clumping.

    Some companies advertise the pH (eg. Komaza Care, As I Am, Dermorganic are 4.5 to 5.5), some are listed on the Natural Haven blog, otherwise purchase some pH test strips. Note that oils don't have a pH only water based products. All conditioners should be slightly acidic but there is a lot of variation
    THE NATURAL HAVEN: pH of Conditioners
    THE NATURAL HAVEN: pH of Shampoo : The Ultimate List!
    THE NATURAL HAVEN: pH of Leave In Conditioners and Styling Aids

    Fatty alcohols are listed in the 'curl chemist' articles here on NC, the whole series is worth a read
    Ingredients Commonly Found in Hair Care Products

    WOW thank you so much for this wealth of information! I'm so determined to find the right products/methods now.
    3b/c coarse, porous (I think), and THICK! Mod CG since: 10/11/08
    Avoiding humectants and protein!
  • wavydazewavydaze Posts: 2,061Registered Users
    curlicarli... I'll trade some of my flatness for some of your volume! ;)

    I don't worry too much about the pH of my shower products (shampoo, rinse-out conditioner) as long as they are lower than the pH of 7 (the pH of water). I figure I'm rinsing them off with water which is diluting them and raising the pH anyway. It's a good idea however to have leave-in conditioner and styling products be at a "happy pH" of 4.5-5.5. :)
    2bc/ f / ii. low porosity roots + normal-high porosity shaft where bleached. normal elasticity.

    Currently using:
    Poo: Earthbath Oatmeal & Aloe
    RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: UFD CM, CJ PP
    PT: CJ Repair Me

    :thumright: hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
    :angry8: guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
    Neutral on cones.

    iherb discount code: CFN646
  • JessiebananaJessiebanana Posts: 940Banned Users
    I love how every single one on my HGs manages to not be on that list. It's okay though, I'm rocking the ignorance is bliss thing :tongue3:.
    3C/Fine to Medium/Low Porosity/High Density

    :love5:MoistureMoistureMoisture:love5:

    Low Poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo
    RO/DC: DB Pumpkin Seed Curl Moisturizing Conditioner
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: Queen Helene Sculpturing Gel & Glaze

    No Salts, No Waxes, No Butters, No Heavy Oils
    No ACV, No Saponified Oils, Protein Sensitive
  • multicultcurlymulticultcurly Posts: 5,134Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    I also think going with a heavier conditioner than HE would help. Your hair frames your face nicely but as a person with a lot of a natural volume, I understand. Aubrey Organics Honeysuckle Rose may be worth a try.

    Sent from my HTCEVOV4G using CurlTalk App
    3b/c, medium-coarse, low porosity, high density
    HG: Jessicurl Too Shea and Kinky Curly Curling Custard
    Shampoo: nonsulfate shampoo and Suave Naturals sulfate shampoo when needed
  • curlicarlycurlicarly Posts: 242Registered Users
    Thanks guys! I really appreciate your suggestions. Anything you recommend in particular for weather with super high dew points? Atlanta here...
    3b/c coarse, porous (I think), and THICK! Mod CG since: 10/11/08
    Avoiding humectants and protein!
  • KiraSavannahKiraSavannah Posts: 423Registered Users
    Jessiebanana is definitely right, I had bad cone build up,herbal essence shampoo and conditioner both have cones, when going cone free make sure to do the last wash with a cone free poo, like garnier pure clean :)
    curlicarly wrote: »
    What shampoo do you use?


    Sent from my SGH-T999 using CurlTalk App

    I mostly co-wash, but when I need to shampoo, I'll use HE hello hydration shampoo. (About once a month)



    Sent from my SGH-T999 using CurlTalk App
    CG/LOC Method's 3b/3c hair SL-Curly/ Goal-MBL Curly:)
    Weekly Poo/Low Poo: some Shea M Poo.
    Weekly Deep Treat-Dermorganic Intensive Hair Masque
    Bi-Weekly RO:Tresseme Naturals - V.Smooth/N.Moisture
    Daily Leave in:Shea Moisture Extra Moisture Detangler
    Daily Oil: Olive Oil & Conut Oil Mix
    Daily Styler: Shea Moisture Curl & Style Milk
  • aerisleyaerisley Posts: 23Registered Users
    I almost could've sworn I was the OP in this thread! My hair is EXACTLY like this too. I just recently went back to being curly after doing weekly (normally bi-weekly) blow outs, but I went on here and researched what I could before I started within a weekend on a limited budget.

    I've only been using Suave Naturals Coconut to co-wash, and I use V05 Kiwi Lime Clarifying Shampoo about every 3 weeks. About once a week I'll leave in some coconut oil over night, and then use a sulfate-free shampoo before conditioning.

    For styling products, I use SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie, and at one point I was using LA Looks gel (now I use Elasta QP), and I pretty much always use the "Rake and Shake" method. Sometimes to refresh my curls I use a homemade mix with AVG, distilled water, glycerin and essential oil. This last batch I added in some coconut oil too. I still need to get some flaxseed to make my own gel to see how well that works for me.

    My hair has always been full of volume and body, as well as porous and taken ages to dry, even when it was relaxed. I'd be happy with half of the volume I have and not having to load up on products! However, I have to admit I know nothing about dew points and how my hair reacts. If anyone can point me in the right direction regarding that, it would be appreciated!
  • Morgan_AdcockMorgan_Adcock Posts: 2,573Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I think it might be related to your co-washing, and rarely shampooing while using silicones. Hair dries out when silicones aren't removed from your hair, and dry hair does poufs like that.

    Aside from either not using silicones, OR shampooing on a frequent basis, I'd suggest trying Curl Keeper, preferably without the cones.
    Peace,
    Morgan

    Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
    CGing since July 2008
  • SpiralSpunkSpiralSpunk Posts: 243Registered Users
    My hair is like this too it's frizzy and tends to poof even when wet and not using cones. Idk, my hair can also take soooo much conditiiner even though I think it's low porosity.
  • curlicarlycurlicarly Posts: 242Registered Users
    Okay, so update!

    I followed a lot of the tips you guys shared with me: I clarified, started using a good conditioner (shea moisture reconstructive), started leaving a lot more product in, etc. I also made flax seed gel, which I am LOVING, possibly to HG degree.

    I just wanted to share some pictures because I'm so excited about how much my hair is responding to the stuff you recommended.
    ImageUploadedByCurlTalk1373842503.133759.jpg
    Check it out, my hair is DRY. And normal sized!! I'm so happy.
    And in addition, I have way less frizz. So exciting. ImageUploadedByCurlTalk1373842577.631911.jpg

    Yeah. So thanks for your help!!
    3b/c coarse, porous (I think), and THICK! Mod CG since: 10/11/08
    Avoiding humectants and protein!
  • multicultcurlymulticultcurly Posts: 5,134Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Glad something is working for you. Your looks great by the way.

    Sent from my HTCEVOV4G using CurlTalk App
    3b/c, medium-coarse, low porosity, high density
    HG: Jessicurl Too Shea and Kinky Curly Curling Custard
    Shampoo: nonsulfate shampoo and Suave Naturals sulfate shampoo when needed
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    Gorgeous!
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • SamanthascurlzSamanthascurlz Posts: 1,082Registered Users
    Very pretty!! So glad the tips are helping! :)
    CG, High Porosity, Fine, Low Density, Medium Elasticity
    Suave, V05, GF Go clean gel, ACV rinses, CO, and Gelatine PT.
    [URL="[url=http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/members/samanthascurlz-albums-evolvement-my-hair.html]Curls[/url]"][/url]Curls
  • anonymous_133347anonymous_133347 Posts: 1,426Registered Users
    You're beautiful and so is your hair. BTW--my hair looked exactly the same as yours before I gave up cones. It was very big and poofy. Isn't it amazing how quickly the hair transforms once you poo those suckers out?
    3A - C, HP, ME, HD. (Coarse, High Porosity, Medium Elasticity, High Density.)

    CG since Nov. 2012

    Poos: SM Moisture Retention + Yucca Baobab, TJ's Tea Tree Tingle
    Condish: TJ 'sTea Tree Tingle*, SM Moisture Retention* + Curl & Shine + Yucca Baobab, Yes to Blueberries
    Stylers: KCKT*, SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie* + Curl & Style Milk*, KCCC*, FSG*, CJ Pattern Pusha, Curl Keeper
    Sealers: Jojoba* or Grapeseed* oil

    * = HG

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