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Looking for a store brand clarifying poo

I need to start from square one, and just realized that my clarifying poo has polyquats. I don't know if that's the source of any of my issues, but I figure if I'm going to clarify, I might as well see if polyquats are a contributing factor. I plan to do a PT and DT tonight so I need to be able to pick the poo up at the grocery store tonight. Thanks!
Type 2B - 3A
Med-High Porosity (partial highlights), medium & corse mixed textures

CG Day 1: May 16, 2013

Poo: CJ Daily Fix Cleansing Condish (as needed)
CO: Tresemme Naturals Vibrantly Smooth Condish
RO&LI: CJ Beauticurls Argan & Olive Oil Daily Hair Condish
Styling: CJ Pattern Pusha or FSG, TRESemme Flawless Curls - Bouncy Curls Defining Gel, Giovanni LANaturals HardHold Gel (canopy only)
DT: CJ Curl Rehab, Coconut oil, SS Repairing PT

Techniques: Scrunch-n-pump, tshirt wrap

Comments

  • CurlyGrey3CurlyGrey3 Posts: 508Registered Users
    I'm looking for the same thing. I bought the Suave Daily Clarifying shampoo at lunch and I thought I had scanned for polyquats, but all the online listings say it has polyquat 10. :confused4:
    Salt & pepper wavy mix 2B/2C
    Low to normal porosity, coarse, kinky, normal elasticity
    Current favorites:
    Low poo: Yes To Cukes Color Protection (the no sulfate one)
    Conditioners: Renpure MPHIP, CJ Smoothing Lotion, AB LI, CJ Curl Rehab, CJ Argan/Olive, Darcy's Pumpkin
    Style: FSG, BRHG
    Pre-poo/DT: Conditioner with honey & coconut oil

    iHerb discount code: PNQ285
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    For a more gentle clarifier, what about Yes to Blueberries?

    Water, Sodium Coco Sulfate, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Xanthan Gum, Vaccinium Angustifolium (Blueberry) Fruit Extract, Stearyl Dihydroxypropyldimonium Oligosaccharides, Lupine Amino Acids, Trifolium Pratense (Clover) Flower Extract, Helianthus Annuus (Sunflower) Extract, Daucus Carota Sativa (Carrot) Seed Oil (Certified Organic Ingredient), Ipomoea Batatas Root Lees Extract, Cetyl Alcohol, Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, Fragrance (100% Natural Fragrance), Citric Acid, Phenoxyethanol

    For harsh clarifiers:

    How about the Neutrogena shampoo- anti residue formula?

    Neutrogena Shampoo, Anti-Residue Formula | drugstore.com

    Water, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Sodium Chloride, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Glycerin, PEG 40 Hydrogenated Castor Oil, Citric Acid, DMDM Hydantoin, Fragrance

    OR Prell Classic

    Water, Ammonium Lauryl Sulfate, Ammonium Laureth Sulfate, Cocamide DEA, Ammonium Xylenesulfonate, Fragrance, Sodium Phosphate, Disodium Phosphate, EDTA, Benzophenone-2, Sodium Chloride, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone, D&C Green No. 8, FD&C Blue No. 1.
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • alslgirl2002alslgirl2002 Posts: 210Registered Users
    Thanks Chloe! If I understand correctly, you need a sulfate to remove polyquats so the Yes to Blueberries won't do the trick, but the other two will.
    Type 2B - 3A
    Med-High Porosity (partial highlights), medium & corse mixed textures

    CG Day 1: May 16, 2013

    Poo: CJ Daily Fix Cleansing Condish (as needed)
    CO: Tresemme Naturals Vibrantly Smooth Condish
    RO&LI: CJ Beauticurls Argan & Olive Oil Daily Hair Condish
    Styling: CJ Pattern Pusha or FSG, TRESemme Flawless Curls - Bouncy Curls Defining Gel, Giovanni LANaturals HardHold Gel (canopy only)
    DT: CJ Curl Rehab, Coconut oil, SS Repairing PT

    Techniques: Scrunch-n-pump, tshirt wrap
  • CurlyGrey3CurlyGrey3 Posts: 508Registered Users
    Thanks. Is it EDTA that removes mineral buildup? Or is that something else?
    Salt & pepper wavy mix 2B/2C
    Low to normal porosity, coarse, kinky, normal elasticity
    Current favorites:
    Low poo: Yes To Cukes Color Protection (the no sulfate one)
    Conditioners: Renpure MPHIP, CJ Smoothing Lotion, AB LI, CJ Curl Rehab, CJ Argan/Olive, Darcy's Pumpkin
    Style: FSG, BRHG
    Pre-poo/DT: Conditioner with honey & coconut oil

    iHerb discount code: PNQ285
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    CurlyGrey3 wrote: »
    Thanks. Is it EDTA that removes mineral buildup? Or is that something else?


    Yes, EDTA.
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • curlicious13curlicious13 Posts: 1,632Registered Users
    Make sure that whatever shampoo you use says clarifying on it. According to my natural stylist, the clarifying poo is different than a regular poo. If you get a regular poo, it won't clarify your scalp because chemically that's not what a regular poo is designed to do. So yes to blueberries won't work but the suave poo & the Giovanni clarifying poo will get the job done. That's what my stylist recommended to me.
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    Make sure that whatever shampoo you use says clarifying on it. According to my natural stylist, the clarifying poo is different than a regular poo. If you get a regular poo, it won't clarify your scalp because chemically that's not what a regular poo is designed to do. So yes to blueberries won't work but the suave poo & the Giovanni clarifying poo will get the job done. That's what my stylist recommended to me.

    I can't see any logic in your stylist's claim, we aren't talking about regular shampoos here, since regular shampoos contain ingredients that are intended to be adhere to hair and can build up but Curly Girls avoid those anyway.

    There is nothing that will build up in the Yes to Blueberries and the second ingredient is a a sulphate surfactant so I strongly suspect it will clarify just fine. Having said that I'd choose the Giovanni because it's sulphate free and low on anionics.
    Giovanni, 50:50 Balanced Hydrating-Clarifying Shampoo, 8.5 fl oz (250 ml) - iHerb.com

    Why would a scalp need clarifying? Scalp sheds skin cells all the time anyway so is not likely to suffer product build up as hair can. Scalps can get sebum or skin cell build up if there is a sensitivity or skin disorder, but harsh commercial shampoos are not the solution to that, they are likely to worsen the problem.

    Thanks Chloe! If I understand correctly, you need a sulfate to remove polyquats so the Yes to Blueberries won't do the trick, but the other two will.

    The second ingredient in the Yes to Blueberries is a sulphate surfactant.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • BRoberts0107BRoberts0107 Posts: 21Registered Users
    A quick Google search revealed that Polyquaternium-10 is easily soluble in water. Some polyquats will build up, but not this one.
    Beth Started CG May 22, 2013
    2C low porosity(?), high density, medium-coarse
    Summer dew points: 65 - 75F
    • No-poo: Suave Naturals
    • RO: Matrix Total Results Moisture
    • LI/Sealer: SheaMoisture C&H Style Milk
    • Style: AG Re:coil and Biolage Gelee
    My daily CG journal: www.curlygirlresolution.blogspot.com
  • SamanthascurlzSamanthascurlz Posts: 1,082Registered Users
    Make sure that whatever shampoo you use says clarifying on it. According to my natural stylist, the clarifying poo is different than a regular poo. If you get a regular poo, it won't clarify your scalp because chemically that's not what a regular poo is designed to do. So yes to blueberries won't work but the suave poo & the Giovanni clarifying poo will get the job done. That's what my stylist recommended to me.

    I can't see any logic in your stylist's claim, we aren't talking about regular shampoos here, since regular shampoos contain ingredients that are intended to be adhere to hair and can build up but Curly Girls avoid those anyway.

    There is nothing that will build up in the Yes to Blueberries and the second ingredient is a a sulphate surfactant so I strongly suspect it will clarify just fine. Having said that I'd choose the Giovanni because it's sulphate free and low on anionics.
    Giovanni, 50:50 Balanced Hydrating-Clarifying Shampoo, 8.5 fl oz (250 ml) - iHerb.com

    Why would a scalp need clarifying? Scalp sheds skin cells all the time anyway so is not likely to suffer product build up as hair can. Scalps can get sebum or skin cell build up if there is a sensitivity or skin disorder, but harsh commercial shampoos are not the solution to that, they are likely to worsen the problem.

    Thanks Chloe! If I understand correctly, you need a sulfate to remove polyquats so the Yes to Blueberries won't do the trick, but the other two will.

    The second ingredient in the Yes to Blueberries is a sulphate surfactant.

    LOL I was going to say, too, how Yes to Blueberries has a surfactant! Then I saw your comment and it reassured me lol.
    CG, High Porosity, Fine, Low Density, Medium Elasticity
    Suave, V05, GF Go clean gel, ACV rinses, CO, and Gelatine PT.
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  • CurlyGrey3CurlyGrey3 Posts: 508Registered Users
    Suave Naturals Daily Clarifying does not have a polyquat.
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    Salt & pepper wavy mix 2B/2C
    Low to normal porosity, coarse, kinky, normal elasticity
    Current favorites:
    Low poo: Yes To Cukes Color Protection (the no sulfate one)
    Conditioners: Renpure MPHIP, CJ Smoothing Lotion, AB LI, CJ Curl Rehab, CJ Argan/Olive, Darcy's Pumpkin
    Style: FSG, BRHG
    Pre-poo/DT: Conditioner with honey & coconut oil

    iHerb discount code: PNQ285
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    A quick Google search revealed that Polyquaternium-10 is easily soluble in water. Some polyquats will build up, but not this one.

    Unfortunately, that hasn't been my experience. I've need to use a stronger surfactant to remove it.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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  • alslgirl2002alslgirl2002 Posts: 210Registered Users
    Thanks everyone. I ended up getting the Giovanni clarifying poo. Tonight I am clarifying then doing a PT and a DT. Tomorrow I am going to try out conditioner only styling since everything else I own has polyquats and/or humectants.
    Type 2B - 3A
    Med-High Porosity (partial highlights), medium & corse mixed textures

    CG Day 1: May 16, 2013

    Poo: CJ Daily Fix Cleansing Condish (as needed)
    CO: Tresemme Naturals Vibrantly Smooth Condish
    RO&LI: CJ Beauticurls Argan & Olive Oil Daily Hair Condish
    Styling: CJ Pattern Pusha or FSG, TRESemme Flawless Curls - Bouncy Curls Defining Gel, Giovanni LANaturals HardHold Gel (canopy only)
    DT: CJ Curl Rehab, Coconut oil, SS Repairing PT

    Techniques: Scrunch-n-pump, tshirt wrap
  • greencup13greencup13 Posts: 596Registered Users
    I used pure and clean garnier
    3A 3B mix
    Colored treated
    Combo Low and High porosity
    Medium coarse texture

    Goosefootprints hair analysis
    Co-wash- As I Am Co-wash
    RO-GVPCB[/COLOR
    LI- As I Am leave in,
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    Style- la looks sport gel