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CJ Beauticurls Strengthener Conditioner vs Spiral Solutions Caitlin Conditioner

My hair profile is fine/normal/normal and I have 3B hair

Both of these conditioners were on my hair profile. If you have my hair type and have tried either of these can you give me your thoughts?

Thanks!

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  • wavydazewavydaze Posts: 2,061Registered Users
    Good timing! I also have SS & CJ tabs open trying to figure out the same thing! (Also fine, normal, normal!)

    CJ Beauticurls Strengthening Condish

    Ingredients: Water, Cetearyl Alcohol, Behentrimonium Methosulfate, Vegetable Glycerin, Simmondsia Chinensis (Jojoba) Seed Oil, Olea Europaea (Olive) Fruit Oil, Panthenol, Cucurbita Pepo (Pumpkin Seed) Oil, Melissa Officinalis (Melissa) Leaf Extract, Urtica Dioica (Nettle) Leaf Extract, Piperita (Peppermint) Leaf Extract, Equisetum Arvense (Horsetail) Leaf Extract, Yucca Leaf Extract, Keratin Amino Acids, Polyquaternium-7, Lecithin, Fragrance, Phenoxyethanol, Caprylyl Glycol.

    SS Caitlin's Condish

    Ingredients: distilled water, behentrimonium methosulfate (and) cetearyl alcohol, babassu oil, vegetable glycerine, meadowfoam seed oil, stearyl alcohol, avocado oil, hydrolyzed oat protein, hydrolyzed jojoba protein, hydrolyzed silk, panthenol, glyceryl stearate, phenoxyethanol (and) caprylyl glycol (and) sorbic acid, aloe vera powder, essential oil blend, guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, tocopherol, citric acid

    I guess one of the main differences that matters to some is the polyquat 7 in the CJ condish. Otherwise, it may be a matter of which protein your hair responds to better. I'm wondering if the SS is more protein-packed.
    2bc/ f / ii. low porosity roots + normal-high porosity shaft where bleached. normal elasticity.

    Currently using:
    Poo: Earthbath Oatmeal & Aloe
    RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: UFD CM, CJ PP
    PT: CJ Repair Me

    :thumright: hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
    :angry8: guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
    Neutral on cones.

    iherb discount code: CFN646
  • udoknowjacudoknowjac Posts: 243Registered Users
    It is really great timing now since it is on sale. I may just get them both to try out.

    Anyone else have experience with these?
  • JessiebananaJessiebanana Posts: 940Banned Users
    In my experience oat protein isn't as strong, so that maybe why the SS has more than one protein higher up.
    3C/Fine to Medium/Low Porosity/High Density

    :love5:MoistureMoistureMoisture:love5:

    Low Poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo
    RO/DC: DB Pumpkin Seed Curl Moisturizing Conditioner
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: Queen Helene Sculpturing Gel & Glaze

    No Salts, No Waxes, No Butters, No Heavy Oils
    No ACV, No Saponified Oils, Protein Sensitive
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    Looking at the first five ingredients ... babassu oil is rich in lauric acid so can penetrate, the eicosenoic acid in jojoba oil cannot. Also glycerin is higher in the CJ so it's likely slightly heavier on the humectants and lighter on the oils relative to the SS. SS contains hydrolysed protein, CJ only contains amino acids which are too small to adhere and likely to wash away.

    i would choose based on your dew points/ humidity or whether your hair likes protein.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • udoknowjacudoknowjac Posts: 243Registered Users
    Thank you this is all so helpful!

    Firefox - I live in Orlando so the humidity is really high. For example today it was 70% and I think the Dew Point was 74. I am not sure if my hair likes protein or not. My hair genie profile said that I should use protein, my hair is fine/normal/normal according to them. But, I have never looked into using it before. Funny enough I have been doing CG for years but never really looked that detailed into why some products might work and others don't. I just found combos that worked for my hair

    Based on that is one of these products more likely to be better for me?
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    udoknowjac wrote: »
    Thank you this is all so helpful!

    Firefox - I live in Orlando so the humidity is really high. For example today it was 70% and I think the Dew Point was 74. I am not sure if my hair likes protein or not. My hair genie profile said that I should use protein, my hair is fine/normal/normal according to them. But, I have never looked into using it before. Funny enough I have been doing CG for years but never really looked that detailed into why some products might work and others don't. I just found combos that worked for my hair

    Based on that is one of these products more likely to be better for me?

    Do you have any frizz issues? Glycerin for me in Florida gives me trouble in the summer. I probably wouldn't purchase either of these bc the glycerin is so high on the list. I've been eyeing the CJ curl assurance smoothing conditioner and Beauticurls leave in. The CJ product selection guide is here:

    Product Selection Guide
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    udoknowjac wrote: »
    Thank you this is all so helpful!

    Firefox - I live in Orlando so the humidity is really high. For example today it was 70% and I think the Dew Point was 74. I am not sure if my hair likes protein or not. My hair genie profile said that I should use protein, my hair is fine/normal/normal according to them. But, I have never looked into using it before. Funny enough I have been doing CG for years but never really looked that detailed into why some products might work and others don't. I just found combos that worked for my hair

    Based on that is one of these products more likely to be better for me?

    Fine hair does often like protein, so if you aren't aware of a problem I'd be more concerned about the glycerin. Spiral Solutions is potentially better because it looks like more protein, less glycerin and there are several anti humectants/ sealers. BUT Chloe92us is right, glycerin might not work in the current humidity/ dews, I definitely would avoid other humectants if you went for it. Did the hair analysis not give you any other options?
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • wavydazewavydaze Posts: 2,061Registered Users
    Thanks everyone for your input! I think I'm going with the SS Caitlin's condish!

    By the way, for the OP... I'm VERY sensitive to glycerin in high dews, but only if it's in my LI or styling products. Practically all of my ROs have had glycerin and have not bothered me at all. This is common. It depends of course if you're looking for a straight RO or an RO that can be used as an LI as well.
    2bc/ f / ii. low porosity roots + normal-high porosity shaft where bleached. normal elasticity.

    Currently using:
    Poo: Earthbath Oatmeal & Aloe
    RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: UFD CM, CJ PP
    PT: CJ Repair Me

    :thumright: hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
    :angry8: guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
    Neutral on cones.

    iherb discount code: CFN646
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    wavydaze wrote: »
    Thanks everyone for your input! I think I'm going with the SS Caitlin's condish!

    By the way, for the OP... I'm VERY sensitive to glycerin in high dews, but only if it's in my LI or styling products. Practically all of my ROs have had glycerin and have not bothered me at all. This is common. It depends of course if you're looking for a straight RO or an RO that can be used as an LI as well.

    Good point, that's usually true for me as well. I avoid it in my leave ins and stylers. That being said, none of my RO have it that high on the list. There are lots of other conditioners without so much of it.
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • udoknowjacudoknowjac Posts: 243Registered Users
    I am not sure if I have glycerin issues. I have tried CK in the past but honestly cannot remember if it was successful or not. Perhaps like wavydaze I might be better off trying the Spiral Solutions.

    The only other conditioners recommended on my profile was Aquage Healing or Suave Tropical Coconut

    If anyone with my hair type has other suggestions I would appreciate it! These are the only ones I found for my hair type so far
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    udoknowjac wrote: »
    I am not sure if I have glycerin issues. I have tried CK in the past but honestly cannot remember if it was successful or not. Perhaps like wavydaze I might be better off trying the Spiral Solutions.

    The only other conditioners recommended on my profile was Aquage Healing or Suave Tropical Coconut

    If anyone with my hair type has other suggestions I would appreciate it! These are the only ones I found for my hair type so far

    Since you live in Florida, you would probably know if you do. If your hair becomes big, frizzy, and puffy as the day goes on...could be glycerin sensitive.
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!