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Best leave in conditioner?

randi.foorrandi.foor Posts: 7Registered Users
in Trying a Shampoo-Free Method?
Ok, so from what I've gathered, (new to CG) you need 3 different conditioners if you want to go no poo. One that conditions, one that cleanses, and one you leave in. All free of cones and all that other bad stuff. Right now I am using a vegan conditioner called Nature's Gate and I'm guessing I need two more. I think I'm going to go with V05 for a clarifying one, but what are some good leave ins?

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  • rmc2rmc2 Posts: 349Registered Users
    A good cleaning and detangling conditioner is Trader's Joe Tea Tree Tingle Conditioner. About $4 and silicone free. No sulfate of course since conditioners do not have sulfate.
  • curlicious13curlicious13 Posts: 1,632Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I love Jane Cater's leave in spray detangle. It protects the hair from the sun too.
  • KiraSavannahKiraSavannah Posts: 423Registered Users
    I use tresemme as s conditioner and leave in sometime or use Shea Moisture smoothie

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    CG/LOC Method's 3b/3c hair SL-Curly/ Goal-MBL Curly:)
    Weekly Poo/Low Poo: some Shea M Poo.
    Weekly Deep Treat-Dermorganic Intensive Hair Masque
    Bi-Weekly RO:Tresseme Naturals - V.Smooth/N.Moisture
    Daily Leave in:Shea Moisture Extra Moisture Detangler
    Daily Oil: Olive Oil & Conut Oil Mix
    Daily Styler: Shea Moisture Curl & Style Milk
  • pamm3lapamm3la Posts: 70Registered Users
    Kinky curly knot today

    Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch using CurlTalk App
    3B/3C Recovering from heat damaged :/... almost like transitioning because most of my hair is straight it won't curl, thsi is due to sooo many years of using heat without stoping.

    Braid out and twist out are my staple styles right now! Not using heat since December 2011. Still experimenting with products!
  • SistapopdemcurlSistapopdemcurl Posts: 225Registered Users
    Koils by nature
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Choose your products based on the ingredients and your hair properties, KCKT is a detangler not a true conditioner so will work for some and not others. Plenty of curlies only use two conditioners, they use the same one for rinse out and leave in, or sometimes cleanse and leave in.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • Karen7Karen7 Posts: 14Registered Users
    Jane Cater's leave, smell good and very nice too my hair.
  • AabidaAabida Posts: 55Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Koils by nature shealoe leave in. Amazing!

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  • JoJoFreeJoJoFree Posts: 110Registered Users
    My Boo Oyin Hair Dew.
  • SamanthascurlzSamanthascurlz Posts: 1,082Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I really like TN aloe vera and avocado as a detangler and leave-in. How many conditioners you use is up to you. Just make sure you have a co-wash/low poo (whatever you choose) that actually rids of build-up- ingredients wise.
    CG, High Porosity, Fine, Low Density, Medium Elasticity
    Suave, V05, GF Go clean gel, ACV rinses, CO, and Gelatine PT.
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  • curlicious13curlicious13 Posts: 1,632Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I'm glad I'm reading this thread because I found out that the Jane Cater revitalizing leave in conditioner isn't a leave in at all. So I'll be checking some of these out.
  • crimsonshedemoncrimsonshedemon Posts: 2,098Registered Users
    I love shescentit's coco creme leave in and they're 25% off right now
  • Janicke31Janicke31 Posts: 53Registered Users
    crimsonshedemon wrote: »
    I love shescentit's coco creme leave in and they're 25% off right now

    where is this sale?


    Sent from my HUAWEI-M931 using CurlTalk App
    2b, Fine, Low density, Normal porosity.

    Currently using but not sure if i'm loving:

    Lo-poo: SM yucca
    Co-wash: Suave Naturals Coconut
    LI: SM yucca Milk, Suave Naturals Coconut
    Gel: LA Looks Mega Hold (Green), LA Looks NutraCurl with Avocado

    Sometimes I pixie diffuse, Always towel turban, Finally stopped touching while wet :oops:, Always SOTC, lose curl definition and get frizzy after a few hours.

    Live in Miami where it's really HUMID:pukel:
  • pinkwolfpinkwolf Posts: 430Registered Users Curl Novice
    +1 Kinky Curly Knot Today
    *Natural 3C/TWA* :toothy7:
     Wash: BS/ACV, ABS, KC Come Clean
    Conditioner: Garnier WB Honey Treasures    , Garnier WB Apple & Green Tea
    Pre-Poo: Oils & Honey Mix
    DC: Garnier WB Honey Treasures Mask, SM 10-N-1
    PT: Super Mayo Deep Conditioning Treatment
    Styler:     KCCC
     Leave-In: KCKT
    Moisturizer:     Whipped Shea Butter
    Oil/Sealant:     EVCO, Jojoba
  • wavydazewavydaze Posts: 2,065Registered Users Curl Novice
    randi.foor wrote: »
    Ok, so from what I've gathered, (new to CG) you need 3 different conditioners if you want to go no poo. One that conditions, one that cleanses, and one you leave in. All free of cones and all that other bad stuff. Right now I am using a vegan conditioner called Nature's Gate and I'm guessing I need two more. I think I'm going to go with V05 for a clarifying one, but what are some good leave ins?

    People have been quick to respond with their favorite leave-in.... but just because that leave-in works for them DOES NOT mean it's going to work for you.

    Have you figured out your hair properties? What are the dew points like in your city?

    Some use the same conditioner, or 2 conditioners, or 3.... depending on their individual needs.
    2bc/ f / ii. low porosity roots + normal-high porosity shaft where bleached. normal elasticity.

    Currently using:
    Poo: Earthbath Oatmeal & Aloe
    RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: UFD CM, CJ PP
    PT: CJ Repair Me

    :thumright: hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
    :angry8: guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
    Neutral on cones.

    iherb discount code: CFN646
  • CurlyInTheFogCurlyInTheFog Posts: 876Registered Users
    I wash with Trader Joe's Tea Tree Tingle, RO with Tresemme Naturals, and use either SheaMoisture Milk or KCKT as a leave-in, depending on what I think my hair needs. KCKT isn't really a very moisturizing leave-in, but generally I don't need much extra moisture. I could get away with just using Tresemme for everything, but I think I get better results using different products.
    3a/b, F, normal porosity

    Suave conditioner, LAL gel
  • starznthingsstarznthings Posts: 49Registered Users
    rmc2 wrote: »
    A good cleaning and detangling conditioner is Trader's Joe Tea Tree Tingle Conditioner. About $4 and silicone free. No sulfate of course since conditioners do not have sulfate.

    Hi. I need a quick reply. I have 3A hair. Today I went totally off my routine and my hair was a huge ugly frizzy flat mess. My question is, when you use Trader Joe's Tea Tree Tingle Conditioner, do you also use it as a leave in? Then do you still use gel? The reason I ask, is my husband could drive me to Trader Joe's tonite, and I could pick it up and try it. Thanks so much....
    Once upon a time, on a clear moonlit night, I counted all the stars in the sky. :love10: :sleepy2:
  • rmc2rmc2 Posts: 349Registered Users
    Best only as rinse out. I think using as leave in or gel may irritate your scalp.
  • CurlyInTheFogCurlyInTheFog Posts: 876Registered Users
    Not really. You could only use one, but use it twice--once for washing (rinse out) and then again for conditioning (rinse out or leave in). Most people use more than one because they like something lighter for washing and then heavier for conditioning, but if you find something you like that will work for both, use it!

    On the TJ's TTT, I've never tried it as a leave in. If you have a sensitive scalp, I think it would be best rinsed out.

    ETA: Conditioners don't clarify. I don't know why they put "clarifying" on the label, except maybe it's to indicate that it's supposed to go with the clarifying shampoo.
    3a/b, F, normal porosity

    Suave conditioner, LAL gel
  • starznthingsstarznthings Posts: 49Registered Users
    rmc2 wrote: »
    Best only as rinse out. I think using as leave in or gel may irritate your scalp.

    Thanks rmc2! I don't know how to multi-quote, so I will have to quote things one at a time. :confused1: I do have a sensitive scalp, so I'm really glad you mentioned that. I didn't get to Trader Joe's last night anyway, so now I can think about it. Thank you for replying so quickly!
    Once upon a time, on a clear moonlit night, I counted all the stars in the sky. :love10: :sleepy2:
  • starznthingsstarznthings Posts: 49Registered Users
    rmc2 wrote: »
    Best only as rinse out. I think using as leave in or gel may irritate your scalp.
    CurlyInTheFog wrote: »
    I wash with Trader Joe's Tea Tree Tingle, RO with Tresemme Naturals, and use either SheaMoisture Milk or KCKT as a leave-in, depending on what I think my hair needs. KCKT isn't really a very moisturizing leave-in, but generally I don't need much extra moisture. I could get away with just using Tresemme for everything, but I think I get better results using different products.

    Hi CurlyInTheFog, thanks for your quick reply also. As I said, I don't know how to multi-quote. I think I might like to pick up the TJTTT, because sometimes I feel like my hair needs a switch for washing. My hair is on the dry side...do you find it to be a strong shampoo? Also, I am prone to seborheic dermatitis (well, can't find spellcheck either...). Do you think the tea trea oil would help with that if I used it every so often? If you don't know, that's okay too.
    Once upon a time, on a clear moonlit night, I counted all the stars in the sky. :love10: :sleepy2:
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Starznthings: Tea tree oil can be effective if used in dilute form regularly on mild seborrhoeic dermatitis (UK spelling!). You may find some of the other oils and extracts in the Trader Joe's irritating tho, the tingle is a sign of mild irritation. Also the shampoo contains olefin sulfonate which can be stripping/ irritating.
    http://www.thenaturalhavenbloom.com/2012/06/are-sulfate-free-shampoos-really.html

    Your entire routine is relevant, aim to use super gentle products at pH 4.5 to 5.5 to respect the skin barrier/ protective acid mantle/ beneficial flora. You probably already know to cleanse regularly. Options for sulphate free shampoos include
    Best Hair Loss Treatments | Hair Growth Treatment | Treatment For Hair Growth (contains ketoconazole, same as in Nizoral)
    Products - Komaza Care (pH 4.5 gentle scalp friendly ingredients)
    Neutrogena T/Sal Therapeutic Shampoo Ulta.com - Cosmetics, Fragrance, Salon and Beauty Gifts (salicylic acid, harsher so perhaps better for more severe SD)

    Also review your diet, aim for as anti inflammatory nutrient dense as possible - over time that can make a huge difference alongside a gentle routine by altering the amount and composition of your sebum, strengthening the skin barrier, reducing systemic inflammation.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • starznthingsstarznthings Posts: 49Registered Users
    Firefox7275 wrote: »
    Starznthings: Tea tree oil can be effective if used in dilute form regularly on mild seborrhoeic dermatitis (UK spelling!). You may find some of the other oils and extracts in the Trader Joe's irritating tho, the tingle is a sign of mild irritation. Also the shampoo contains cwhich can be stripping/ irritating.
    THE NATURAL HAVEN: Are sulfate free shampoos really gentler?

    Your entire routine is relevant, aim to use super gentle products at pH 4.5 to 5.5 to respect the skin barrier/ protective acid mantle/ beneficial flora. You probably already know to cleanse regularly. Options for sulphate free shampoos include
    Best Hair Loss Treatments | Hair Growth Treatment | Treatment For Hair Growth (contains ketoconazole, same as in Nizoral)
    Products - Komaza Care (pH 4.5 gentle scalp friendly ingredients)
    Neutrogena T/Sal Therapeutic Shampoo Ulta.com - Cosmetics, Fragrance, Salon and Beauty Gifts (salicylic acid, harsher so perhaps better for more severe SD)

    Also review your diet, aim for as anti inflammatory nutrient dense as possible - over time that can make a huge difference alongside a gentle routine by altering the amount and composition of your sebum, strengthening the skin barrier, reducing systemic inflammation.

    Firefox7275, There's alot of info you gave me. I think I have a book on anti inflammatory nutrient dense foods...and I do notice that stress is a huge facor in the seborrhoeic dermatitis (that's probably the US spelling also....). I had to use the Neutrogena T/Sal and Nizoral stuff a few years ago, but it hasn't been that bad since then. I didn't know about olefin sulfonate being irritating/stripping, so I need to check my ingredients on a few things. I will also look into the Komaza Care. Thanks for all you input. :thumright:
    Once upon a time, on a clear moonlit night, I counted all the stars in the sky. :love10: :sleepy2:
  • TartNTangyTartNTangy Posts: 53Registered Users
    I have used Trader Joe's TTT, Tresemme, VO5 vanilla mint and kiwi lime, TJ's Nourish Spa, and a couple others. I honestly prefer TJ's Nourish spa for cleansing. I don't need as much as VO5 to cleanse, and it has awesome slip, just as good if not better than Tresemme. Its cheap (2.99) and natural.

    For leave ins, KCKT was waay too light and I got some frizzies when applying. Satin Roots leave in is much better in my opinion. Its actually light, but at the same time provides enough moisture for my med-thick hair.

    If you have Low-Med porosity and medium thick hair, look into these products. (For comparison: have 2B hair and can use mild protein treatments once every few months, its hard to over moisturize my hair.)

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    -2b waist-length hair (ringlets in the front and canopy, straighter under-layer)
    -Dense head of med-coarse strands
    -Low     porosity
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    starznthings wrote: »
    Firefox7275, There's alot of info you gave me. I think I have a book on anti inflammatory nutrient dense foods...and I do notice that stress is a huge facor in the seborrhoeic dermatitis (that's probably the US spelling also....). I had to use the Neutrogena T/Sal and Nizoral stuff a few years ago, but it hasn't been that bad since then. I didn't know about olefin sulfonate being irritating/stripping, so I need to check my ingredients on a few things. I will also look into the Komaza Care. Thanks for all you input. :thumright:

    You are welcome: stress is indeed a huge issue in various forms of dermatitis. Stress is pro inflammatory, affects sleep quality, increases our need for all sorts of nutrients, and often dulls the appetite or causes cravings for sugary rubbish. It's a disastrous combination.

    Best self care for stress: get your 10,000 steps each and every day, more intense formal exercise three to four times a week if you are able, pretty much the same as an anti inflammatory diet especially the oily fish, also magnesium rich foods for example chia, ground flax, pumpkin seeds, and yummy cocoa powder! I do this for a living and am prone to stress/ anxiety so let me know if I can help further on that in the future.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • anonymous_166474anonymous_166474 Posts: 70Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    My hair loves giovanni direct leave in and it is cheap with great ingredients. www.swansonvitamins.com
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Kosher Curls
    mostly 3b curls
    Low Porosity
    fine, medium, coarse
    medium to high density
    Products: Giovanni direct leave in and olive or argan oil eco styler.

    LONG: 10"+ (armpit to waist length)
  • CGSince2002CGSince2002 Posts: 1,073Banned Users
    It is not really true that 3 COs are needed to make CG work, at least for most; more than one is usually just an individual choice.

    The original book only says that the CO should contain 1) a mild surfactant (i.e., quaternary ammonium salts such as cetrimonium chloride), this is important as contrary to popular belief not all COs contain a surfactant and some may be better than others. 2) protein (but some prefer to avoid this), 3) emollients, and 4) humectants. So if the CO qualifies in all points it should be enough.

    What may have initiated the trend towards several COs is the fact that many years ago a lot of people began with a pricey CO and in order to save money added a cheap one for co-washing, so a lot of newbies probably thought that was the way to do it. I myself used two to stretch my organic RO and eventually I didn't rinse it out at all so I would not waste it (and it did wonders for my hair that way!). Many people with healthy fine hair don't even need a LI, or like me most of the time, have enough with not completely rinsing out their RO.

    So, if you have a quality and complete CO see first how you do with that one alone, the whole point of CG is to simplify one's hair care routine and narrow down the products to 2 if possible (a CO & a gel). However, those that manufacture curly hair products will encourage people to use more... and some PJs end up collecting a gazillion bottles and jars in their unrealistic hope that a "miracle" formula is going to even change their hair type...
    Joined Curltalk 1st time in early '02 shortly after starting CG. I'm a non-practicing Cosmetologist.
    Hair: color-treated, mostly 3A.
    CO-wash: VO5 K&L
    RO: SpaHaus Salon w/OO, VO5 Shea Cashmere, W.R. Trop. Coconut, Daily Defense Moisturizing & others.
    LI: Beautiful Curls w/Shea Butter & C.O., Hollywood Beauty OO Creme, VO5 K&L, Aveda Be Curly Curl Enhancer.
    Gels: LAL Wet Look, ORS Lock & Twist.
    Oils: Jojoba, EVCO & Africa's Best Ultimate Herbal Oil
  • chippingnutchippingnut Posts: 2Registered Users
    My top 3 best leave in conditioner for natural hair are as follows:

    -As I Am Naturally Leave-In Conditioner
    -Kinky Curly Knot Today mixed with Castor Oil and Jojoba Oil
    -Shea Moisture Shea Butter Leave In Conditioner

    they all smells great and makes my hair really moisturize

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