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Sulfate and Silicone Free Shampoos?

RezuaRezua Posts: 18Registered Users
Are there any shampoos that are both Sulfate and Silicone Free?


If you needed a shampoo and it only had one of those qualities not both.which one would be better to go with?

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3B (Medium-Porosity,Texture & Density)

Wash:
Giovanni Tea Tree Shampoo
Giovanni Tea Tree Conditioner
Leave-In:
Giovanni Direct Leave In Conditioner

Comments

  • LauraimesLauraimes Posts: 880Registered Users
    To begin with, shampoos usually don't contain silicones so you needn't worry about that. That being said, you won't find a shampoo that contains both. Sulfates in shampoos are really common thought because it's a cheap ingredient and thus repeatedly used in the cosmetic industry.

    I avoid products with silicones and sulfates, but if I had to pick, I'd go for silicones because they are removable with milder surfactants than sulfates.

    This list might help you, as it has only CG friendly products on it: http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/general-discussion-about-curly-hair/147483-cg-friendly-product-list.html
    F - LP - HD - NE
    Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
    Hairtype 2c

    Low poo: Petal Fresh Organics Rosemary & Mint Volumizing Shampoo
    Protein: Colorful Neutral Protein Filler
    Detangler/RO: KCKT (winter) or Curl Junkie Beauticurls Argan & Olive Oil (summer)
    Styling: KCCC

    Beauty Is Not a Number
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    Many commercial shampoos contain silicones. If I could choose only one I'd pick sulphate free, these surfactants are damaging to both skin and hair. Silicones are not damaging as such there is just the risk of them building up or weighing hair down.

    Many of the shampoos in the Curl Mart are Curly Girl friendly, also there are selectors for both sulphate and silicone free in the reviews section, it's well worth exploring the whole site and using the advanced search function when you have a question about the basics.
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    Curly Hair Products for Healthy, No Frizz Curls | CurlMart

    The only reason I would 'need' a shampoo is if I developed seborrhoeic dermatitis or a similar scalp complaint, if I did I would use either Regenepure (ketoconazole) or Komaza Care Moja shampoo (pH 4.5, various scalp friendly ingredients).
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    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • sKorpio1190sKorpio1190 Posts: 1,862Registered Users
    Taliah waajid herbal hair wash

    normal porosity/texture/elasticity
    Medium texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity :shock:
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    All the Shea moisture poos, deva low poo, yes to_ poos, kiss my face, loreal evercurl cleansing conditioner (their poos have cones), jessicurl cleansing cream, curl junkie gentle poo...
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • LauraimesLauraimes Posts: 880Registered Users
    I've never noticed any sulfate poo having cones so this really comes as a surprise! Maybe because I haven't used one for years :-)
    F - LP - HD - NE
    Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
    Hairtype 2c

    Low poo: Petal Fresh Organics Rosemary & Mint Volumizing Shampoo
    Protein: Colorful Neutral Protein Filler
    Detangler/RO: KCKT (winter) or Curl Junkie Beauticurls Argan & Olive Oil (summer)
    Styling: KCCC

    Beauty Is Not a Number
  • Corrina777Corrina777 Posts: 3,193Registered Users
    Lauraimes wrote: »
    I've never noticed any sulfate poo having cones so this really comes as a surprise! Maybe because I haven't used one for years :-)

    Silicones are added to shampoo (both sulfate and sulfate-free) to lessen the dry, stripped feeling. It can be frustrating to have to always check labels, but sadly, that's what it pretty much comes down too, especially since so many companies love to re-formulate.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    3a/f/iii
    Modified CG since 11/5/11
    CLEANSE: CJ Daily Fix, DevaCare No-Poo, CHS Treatment Shampoo
    RO: SS Caitlin's Conditioner, CJ Beauticurls Strengthening
    LI: SS Repairing Protein Treatment, CHS Silk Leave-In
    STYLE: Re:Coil, Curl Keeper, Deva Ultra Defining Gel, Curls Rock Amplifier,Sweet Curls Elixirs Okra Gel and Hard Hold Gel, SS Curl Enhancing Jelly and Firm Hold Gel
  • LauraimesLauraimes Posts: 880Registered Users
    Corrina777 wrote: »
    Lauraimes wrote: »
    I've never noticed any sulfate poo having cones so this really comes as a surprise! Maybe because I haven't used one for years :-)

    Silicones are added to shampoo (both sulfate and sulfate-free) to lessen the dry, stripped feeling. It can be frustrating to have to always check labels, but sadly, that's what it pretty much comes down too, especially since so many companies love to re-formulate.

    I always check the labels and do my research before buying anything. Perhaps it's even a good thing we have so little readily available in store here, because it forces you (at least, this goes for me) to think about it more carefully with all the additional shipping costs/taxes.
    F - LP - HD - NE
    Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
    Hairtype 2c

    Low poo: Petal Fresh Organics Rosemary & Mint Volumizing Shampoo
    Protein: Colorful Neutral Protein Filler
    Detangler/RO: KCKT (winter) or Curl Junkie Beauticurls Argan & Olive Oil (summer)
    Styling: KCCC

    Beauty Is Not a Number
  • wavydazewavydaze Posts: 2,061Registered Users
    There's tons of great low-poos (sulfate free shampoos) available pretty widely, and they're silicone free as well. I'm currently using Giovanni TTTT (Tea Tree Triple Treat) and I love it! The 50/50 shampoo is great too.

    To answer your second question, I would choose a low-poo with silicones (though I haven't come across any) over a sulfate shampoo any day. Sulfates really mess up my scalp and dry out my hair like nobody's business. Silicones on the other hand can also be broken down w coco-betaine, which is a common surfactant in low-poos. Below is a link on which surfactants break down which silicones.

    What's the Scoop on Silicones?
    2bc/ f / ii. low porosity roots + normal-high porosity shaft where bleached. normal elasticity.

    Currently using:
    Poo: Earthbath Oatmeal & Aloe
    RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: UFD CM, CJ PP
    PT: CJ Repair Me

    :thumright: hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
    :angry8: guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
    Neutral on cones.

    iherb discount code: CFN646
  • squiggles37squiggles37 Posts: 1Registered Users
    i know this thread is almost a year old but i just had to post my findings case others are finding this thread in their search results for sulfate and silicone free shampoos!

    so far, these are the only shampoos that i've been able to find that are both sulfate and silicone free:

    - giovanni 50:50 balanced hydrating-clarifying shampoo
    - redken nature's rescue refreshing detox shampoo (discontinued now but you can still find on amazon)
    - living proof perfect hair day shampoo
    - living proof full shampoo
    - living proof frizz shampoo
    - living proof restore shampoo

    the redken detox and giovanni 50:50 shampoos are clarifying shampoos, so they shouldn't be used too often or else they will dry out the hair/scalp.
  • wavydazewavydaze Posts: 2,061Registered Users
    I wouldn't say Giovanni 50:50 is truly clarifying (I would use a sulfate shampoo to clarify in most cases), it's a milder shampoo, but it depends on what you need. It's not as mild as CJ Gentle Cleansing poo.

    Some lines to consider (Drugstore):
    - Almost all Giovanni poos are sulfate and silicone free
    - YesTo line
    - Renpure line
    - SheaMoisture (these don't break down cones fyi)

    - Curl Junkie Gentle Cleansing
    - Jessicurl's shampoo
    - Sevi shampoos
    - Komaza Care
    - BROO

    ...I'm blanking, but I know there's a TON of them

    Plus a lot of natural/semi-natural brands have silicone-free low-poos like Alba Botanica, Jason, Nature's Gate, etc.
    2bc/ f / ii. low porosity roots + normal-high porosity shaft where bleached. normal elasticity.

    Currently using:
    Poo: Earthbath Oatmeal & Aloe
    RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: UFD CM, CJ PP
    PT: CJ Repair Me

    :thumright: hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
    :angry8: guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
    Neutral on cones.

    iherb discount code: CFN646