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So excited! Made a perfect batch of okra gel today!

chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
Edited 8/20/13 to update with my favorite, basic recipe.

I added 2 Cups frozen sliced okra to a pot of 3 1/2 cups water and 2 T marshmallow root (optional). Cooked on med-low for 45 mins (slow boil), stirring occasionally.

I strained the liquid with a mesh strainer and added 1/2 t of xanthan gum to thicken, and mixed with an immersion blender. If you want it thicker, add more slowly. I like mine more runny.

This yielded about 1 1/2-2 cups, though I didn't measure it....

I let it cool a few minutes, then whisked in these add-ins;

1/4 t citric acid (to reduce PH- available at health food stores)
1/2 t agave nectar (for hold- available @ grocery store, in the sugar aisle- you may need more or less, so you'll have to play with the amount)
1/2 t grape seed oil (any oil will work)
8 drops of vanilla fragrance oil (you can use any fragrance or essential oil for scent)

**ADD PRESERVATIVE (IF DESIRED)- PLEASE USE PACKAGE INSTRUCTIONS OR CONSULT THE WEB FOR DIRECTIONS. Each one is different. Potassium sorbate, for example, should be added to the gel at 60 degrees OR LESS (so refrigerated for a few minutes first) and also should be disolved in a solution before adding. I have also ordered Germall Plus as a more well-rounded preservative to use next time. Refrigeration is required without using a preservative!

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2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
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  • CurlsnswirlsCurlsnswirls Posts: 865Registered Users
    Wow so detailed, thank you!! I really want to make some okra gel myself. I will try your recipe first. Only I will add more agave (if I can find mine) or use honey and I have some Optiphen I will use to preserve. Thanks again!!
  • KarimaKarima Posts: 36Registered Users
    Wow that sounds so complicated! Are there any easier ways to make it? I would like to try it, but I have no idea where I could get many of those ingredients. I live in holland and have for example never heard of marshmallow root. Ive put it trough a translator but still do t have a clue of what it could be. Can't really find it on the internet either. What are the essential ingredients I would need for it?
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    Karima wrote: »
    Wow that sounds so complicated! Are there any easier ways to make it? I would like to try it, but I have no idea where I could get many of those ingredients. I live in holland and have for example never heard of marshmallow root. Ive put it trough a translator but still do t have a clue of what it could be. Can't really find it on the internet either. What are the essential ingredients I would need for it?

    Frozen okra
    Water
    Thickener (xanthan gum, guar gum, cornstarch)
    Oil (grape seed, jojoba, sweet almond, etc)
    Agave nectar or honey
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • KarimaKarima Posts: 36Registered Users
    Thank you very much, will shop for those this week and give it a try =)

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  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    I purchased most of the ingredients from www.iherb.com

    The potassium sorbate I ordered from www.lotioncrafters.com
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • RytokaRytoka Posts: 309Registered Users
    I am so trying this this weekend. Gotta go shipping ;)
    Katie
    2C/3a, Medium Texture, Normal porosity, High Density, Normal Elasticity (so says the LCLF Hair analysis)
    Co Wash: As I am
    RO: Yes To Carrots / Ion
    LI: Biotera / Samy Big Curls Defining Cream
    Gel: FSG, Volumax (Original and Mega)
    Color: Henna
    Tools: Diffusing
    :thumright:
  • RytokaRytoka Posts: 309Registered Users
    Decided to do a basic version because I was too impatient to wait to go to the store ;) liking it so far but waiting for it to dry all the way. Topped it with some gvplsg and hesmu because I am visiting an old friend and want to make sure it's not frizzing lol. May try it alone tomorrow. It came out pretty runny so will have to boil the next batch a bit longer. Picking up a thickener today too. Corn starch didn't do much. Think I can find marshmallow at whole foods?
    Katie
    2C/3a, Medium Texture, Normal porosity, High Density, Normal Elasticity (so says the LCLF Hair analysis)
    Co Wash: As I am
    RO: Yes To Carrots / Ion
    LI: Biotera / Samy Big Curls Defining Cream
    Gel: FSG, Volumax (Original and Mega)
    Color: Henna
    Tools: Diffusing
    :thumright:
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    I think with okra gel, you HAVE to use a thickener, it just doesn't get as thick as FSG no matter how long you boil it. At least, that's what I've gathered from the posts I've read here. I'm not sure about MR @ whole foods- I don't have one here. Plus, I love online shopping, so if I can order it online I don't bother looking for it on the ground, lol.
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • RytokaRytoka Posts: 309Registered Users
    Looked on I herb and all I saw was a pound bag. Seems like a lot. Does the liquid work or maybe the capsules?
    Katie
    2C/3a, Medium Texture, Normal porosity, High Density, Normal Elasticity (so says the LCLF Hair analysis)
    Co Wash: As I am
    RO: Yes To Carrots / Ion
    LI: Biotera / Samy Big Curls Defining Cream
    Gel: FSG, Volumax (Original and Mega)
    Color: Henna
    Tools: Diffusing
    :thumright:
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    Rytoka wrote: »
    Looked on I herb and all I saw was a pound bag. Seems like a lot. Does the liquid work or maybe the capsules?

    I don't know about the liquid or capsules, but yes it's a big bag!
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    Rytoka wrote: »
    Looked on I herb and all I saw was a pound bag. Seems like a lot. Does the liquid work or maybe the capsules?

    I'd only use the herb. Here's a place you can order smaller amounts Bulk Organic Herbs and Spices You can get some other things, too.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    Kathy- do you have any tips for us?
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    chloe92us wrote: »
    Kathy- do you have any tips for us?

    My new favorite ingredient to add to okra gel and FSG http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/general-discussion-about-curly-hair/154501-whos-tried-sugragel.html
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • TartNTangyTartNTangy Posts: 53Registered Users
    This thread is very helpful, thank you!

    Does anyone know if adding a thickener will give the gel more hold? I started with 1/2 teaspoon of agave nectar but it wasn't enough. Last time I used 1 tablespoon and it made some of my hair sticky.
    -2b waist-length hair (ringlets in the front and canopy, straighter under-layer)
    -Dense head of med-coarse strands
    -Low
    porosity
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    I have read that thickeners DO help with hold too. I think the 1/2 teaspoon of agave I used isn't enough. For my next batch I think I'll use 1 teaspoon, I loosely based my measurements on Kathy Mack's FSG recipe, but she adds those amounts for EACH CUP of finished gel, before ingredients, so I probably should have doubled mine although it works just fine.
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • TartNTangyTartNTangy Posts: 53Registered Users
    Great, thanks! :D
    And to Kathy too, as she's been helping me with my okra gel recipe.
    -2b waist-length hair (ringlets in the front and canopy, straighter under-layer)
    -Dense head of med-coarse strands
    -Low
    porosity
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    TartNTangy wrote: »
    Great, thanks! :D
    And to Kathy too, as she's been helping me with my okra gel recipe.

    If you come up with a good one, please post it!

    I added more agave to my batch today and it is holding better. I changed my recipe above.
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • RytokaRytoka Posts: 309Registered Users
    I got some xantham gum this weekend but all I could find for marshmallow was the capsules. Gave it a shot anyway. Just broke open a couple in the water with the okra. Seemed to work fine but I just got globs in the gel from the xantham gum. I don't have an immersion blender to break those up (on my wish list for sure lol) I am going to try to strain the clumps out and give it a shot. Any ideas how to get it in there without having chunks? I even tried to dissolve it in water first and still lumpy
    Katie
    2C/3a, Medium Texture, Normal porosity, High Density, Normal Elasticity (so says the LCLF Hair analysis)
    Co Wash: As I am
    RO: Yes To Carrots / Ion
    LI: Biotera / Samy Big Curls Defining Cream
    Gel: FSG, Volumax (Original and Mega)
    Color: Henna
    Tools: Diffusing
    :thumright:
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    Rytoka wrote: »
    I got some xantham gum this weekend but all I could find for marshmallow was the capsules. Gave it a shot anyway. Just broke open a couple in the water with the okra. Seemed to work fine but I just got globs in the gel from the xantham gum. I don't have an immersion blender to break those up (on my wish list for sure lol) I am going to try to strain the clumps out and give it a shot. Any ideas how to get it in there without having chunks? I even tried to dissolve it in water first and still lumpy

    This is exactly how I've ruined multiple batches of FSG and okra gel. Xanthan, IMHO, is hard to use.

    One time, I got it to work by adding it as soon as I strained the liquid, while still really hot. I had my hubby sprinkle it in really lightly while I whisked like a crazy woman. But I still had to re-strain; there were a few little clumps.

    The immersion blender works best so far. This last batch, I blended right after I strained and added the xanthan gum, while hot. THEN added the rest of my ingredients. This helped a lot with the air bubbles/ foam from the blender.

    Do you have a hand mixer? Like the one with two wisks with a handle you turn?

    Or a regular blender?

    I'm going to experiment with adding some of it while its still in the pot boiling and see if that works. Although it may make it difficult to strain.

    Yea, I tried to mix it water first and ended up with one big blob!
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • RytokaRytoka Posts: 309Registered Users
    Might try the hand blender next time. Or just tell my DH I must have an immersion blender for this, I just have to!! ;)
    Katie
    2C/3a, Medium Texture, Normal porosity, High Density, Normal Elasticity (so says the LCLF Hair analysis)
    Co Wash: As I am
    RO: Yes To Carrots / Ion
    LI: Biotera / Samy Big Curls Defining Cream
    Gel: FSG, Volumax (Original and Mega)
    Color: Henna
    Tools: Diffusing
    :thumright:
  • TartNTangyTartNTangy Posts: 53Registered Users
    Of course, Chloe! I'd be more than happy to be a contributor to the community that has help me achieve the hair I have today. I will post as soon as I have made another batch.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using CurlTalk App
    -2b waist-length hair (ringlets in the front and canopy, straighter under-layer)
    -Dense head of med-coarse strands
    -Low
    porosity
  • RytokaRytoka Posts: 309Registered Users
    Pretty pleased with the okra! Next time I think I will add Epsom to see how it works too! I have used it in FSG with mixed results, should I add it to the water while boiling or after straining.
    This is just the okra gel with nothing on top.
    ImageUploadedByCurlTalk1370962775.534734.jpg
    Please ignore the odd look. I hate taking selfies but I'm at work and the mirror isn't big enough to take pics of the back ;)
    Katie
    2C/3a, Medium Texture, Normal porosity, High Density, Normal Elasticity (so says the LCLF Hair analysis)
    Co Wash: As I am
    RO: Yes To Carrots / Ion
    LI: Biotera / Samy Big Curls Defining Cream
    Gel: FSG, Volumax (Original and Mega)
    Color: Henna
    Tools: Diffusing
    :thumright:
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    Looks great! I added the salt after the mixture had cooled for a few minutes, but was still warm.
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • RytokaRytoka Posts: 309Registered Users
    Did it dissolve pretty easily??
    Katie
    2C/3a, Medium Texture, Normal porosity, High Density, Normal Elasticity (so says the LCLF Hair analysis)
    Co Wash: As I am
    RO: Yes To Carrots / Ion
    LI: Biotera / Samy Big Curls Defining Cream
    Gel: FSG, Volumax (Original and Mega)
    Color: Henna
    Tools: Diffusing
    :thumright:
  • pixiepixie Posts: 140Registered Users
    I made my first batch today. I used fresh okra, xanthum gum, citric acid, agave nectar and sweet almond oil. Mines quite liquidy ?? Not to keen on the scent either :( But I added some lavender eo, so this has helped a bit. I will try it tomorrow, finders crossed it works :)
    2a/f//ii (fia)
    Normal elasticity, Normal porosity, Fine texture
    Low poo L'oreal eversleek,
    Co wash Keracare
    RO Tresemme Naturals, DB pumpkinseed, Giovanni 2chic a&o
    Stylers BRHG, Volumax Mega gel, Darcy's Botanicals ccg, Paul Mitchell sculpting foam, FSG, Camille Rose Curl Maker, Keracare Custard
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    pixie wrote: »
    I made my first batch today. I used fresh okra, xanthum gum, citric acid, agave nectar and sweet almond oil. Mines quite liquidy ?? Not to keen on the scent either :( But I added some lavender eo, so this has helped a bit. I will try it tomorrow, finders crossed it works :)

    I like mine to be more liquidy than other gels- similar to like a sculpting gel would be. But if you like it thicker, more xanthan gum would help I think.
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • pixiepixie Posts: 140Registered Users
    chloe92us wrote: »
    pixie wrote: »
    I made my first batch today. I used fresh okra, xanthum gum, citric acid, agave nectar and sweet almond oil. Mines quite liquidy ?? Not to keen on the scent either :( But I added some lavender eo, so this has helped a bit. I will try it tomorrow, finders crossed it works :)

    I like mine to be more liquidy than other gels- similar to like a sculpting gel would be. But if you like it thicker, more xanthan gum would help I think.

    I will try it out, if I think its a bit runny I will add for xanthan gum next time.
    Thank you :)
    2a/f//ii (fia)
    Normal elasticity, Normal porosity, Fine texture
    Low poo L'oreal eversleek,
    Co wash Keracare
    RO Tresemme Naturals, DB pumpkinseed, Giovanni 2chic a&o
    Stylers BRHG, Volumax Mega gel, Darcy's Botanicals ccg, Paul Mitchell sculpting foam, FSG, Camille Rose Curl Maker, Keracare Custard
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    Rytoka wrote: »
    Did it dissolve pretty easily??

    It seems to have....?
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • RytokaRytoka Posts: 309Registered Users
    Just wasn't sure if I should try to dissolve it in some warm water first :) you never know. Wasn't an issue with FSG because it was added while boiling. Thanks for your help :)
    Katie
    2C/3a, Medium Texture, Normal porosity, High Density, Normal Elasticity (so says the LCLF Hair analysis)
    Co Wash: As I am
    RO: Yes To Carrots / Ion
    LI: Biotera / Samy Big Curls Defining Cream
    Gel: FSG, Volumax (Original and Mega)
    Color: Henna
    Tools: Diffusing
    :thumright:
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    Rytoka wrote: »
    Just wasn't sure if I should try to dissolve it in some warm water first :) you never know. Wasn't an issue with FSG because it was added while boiling. Thanks for your help :)

    Katie- If you are experienced in making FSG, I would just add the things as you did before. If adding it to the boiling mix is better, I will definitely try it next time! I am fairly new to this and have just been experimenting a lot.

    Basically- if you know a better way, please let ME know! lol.
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
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