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coconut oil and smelly scalp??

hambo02hambo02 Posts: 480Registered Users
I got a question. I loove coconut oil on my scalp and it helps get rid of the flakes and makes it not itchy but when I used it overnight like i dont know if you saw waterlilly716's coconut oil scalp treatment. well I did it like her and when I woke up my scalp smells awful. Like puke???? Needless to say I haven't done it sents. The real question is, when I put coconut oil on my scalp after I shampoo in the morning sometmes, it doesn't smell throughout the day.
Does anyone have this problem or know why it smells bad when I wake up and not during the day??

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  • WeathercurlWeathercurl Posts: 228Registered Users
    I also love coconut oil as a DT. I like the smell of the unrefined, but I do notice a weird smell in my hair on day two and three. I usually put it in at night and wash it out in the morning. It smells fine the first day. By the second day i start noticing a weird smell. It's not horrible but I don't particularly like it either. I tried the refined coconut oil, which doesn't have any scent, and it seems better. My hair feels just as conditioned and I don't get the weird smell in my hair. I don't know why the unrefined seems to turn all funky smelling on me, but I've switched back and fourth several times and I'm not imagining things. Maybe it's like milk going off when it gets old. I'm guessing that something in our body chemistry may react with the coconut oil and we just happen to be unlucky in the way the scent develops on us. Give the refined a try and see what you think.
    2b/2c ( weather permitting - 3a), fine texture but lots of it, colored and highlights, BSL.
    Experimenting w CG since Oct 2012

    Current rotation:
    cowash= TN
    AG Gel Mousse, LA Gel,
    DT = Coconut oil (love)
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    hambo02 wrote: »
    I got a question. I loove coconut oil on my scalp and it helps get rid of the flakes and makes it not itchy but when I used it overnight like i dont know if you saw waterlilly716's coconut oil scalp treatment. well I did it like her and when I woke up my scalp smells awful. Like puke???? Needless to say I haven't done it sents. The real question is, when I put coconut oil on my scalp after I shampoo in the morning sometmes, it doesn't smell throughout the day.
    Does anyone have this problem or know why it smells bad when I wake up and not during the day??

    If you have an itchy and flaky scalp that sometimes smells you would be best to get a formal diagnosis from your family doctor. It's possible you have a yeast overgrowth or bacterial infection that needs addressing.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • hambo02hambo02 Posts: 480Registered Users
    oh wow> thank god I only have it when i use coconut oil but if it ever smells bad when I dont use it Ill see what I can do about the docter. thanks for the replies
  • KorkscrewKorkscrew Posts: 1,834Registered Users
    I agree w/Firefox. If it honestly smells bad to you, it's possible you have some type of infection. Pure coconut oil - if that's what you used - is actually classified as an anti-fungal, so if you have an infection it is doubtful it is due to the coconut oil alone.
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    hambo02 wrote: »
    oh wow> thank god I only have it when i use coconut oil but if it ever smells bad when I dont use it Ill see what I can do about the docter. thanks for the replies

    Pruritis (itching) and flaky scalp are symptoms, they need a formal diagnosis even without the smell. You seem to be assuming the coconut oil is solely causing the smelly scalp instead of being a catalyst or trigger or contributory factor, that seems highly unlikely in such a short time frame.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • hambo02hambo02 Posts: 480Registered Users
    let me tell you something. I did it lastnight and it stunk again but after i washed my hair and it dried my scalp has never felt better and no flakes
  • KorkscrewKorkscrew Posts: 1,834Registered Users
    Have you tried overnight treatments lately with something else, another oil or conditioner? If you haven't, you might want to try that soon and see if the smell comes back. Bacteria and fungus thrive in dark, moist and warm places, and overnight treatments could add up to the perfect storm, so to speak ... so that you may have a mild infections that doesn't make itself obvious until you do treatments.

    If not, I guess you'll just stay away from coconut treatments and hope it's not an underlying infection.
  • hambo02hambo02 Posts: 480Registered Users
    i used grapeseed oil over night and it didnt smell. so i guess its just coconut oi; and also my hair is not wet when I do these scalp treatments.
  • KorkscrewKorkscrew Posts: 1,834Registered Users
    How long ago did you do the overnight grapeseed oil treatment? As for the coconut oil, what brand and how pure?
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    Korkscrew wrote: »
    Bacteria and fungus thrive in dark, moist and warm places, and overnight treatments could add up to the perfect storm, so to speak ... so that you may have a mild infections that doesn't make itself obvious until you do treatments.

    Very well written.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • WeathercurlWeathercurl Posts: 228Registered Users
    I don't have flakes, itching, etc. I just can't use unrefined coconut oil without getting a weird smell developing by the second day. No problem with unrefined, however. I just think my body chemistry and something in the unrefined don't play well together over time.
    2b/2c ( weather permitting - 3a), fine texture but lots of it, colored and highlights, BSL.
    Experimenting w CG since Oct 2012

    Current rotation:
    cowash= TN
    AG Gel Mousse, LA Gel,
    DT = Coconut oil (love)
  • hambo02hambo02 Posts: 480Registered Users
    Korkscrew wrote: »
    How long ago did you do the overnight grapeseed oil treatment? As for the coconut oil, what brand and how pure?

    like a week ago.

    and the coconut oil is from trader joe's. extra virgin. unrefined
  • KorkscrewKorkscrew Posts: 1,834Registered Users
    Yes, that's the key thing I wanted to know: whether or not it's refined. The thing about unrefined is that it really could be that the smell changes over time, in an unpleasant way.

    One way to try and rule out the possibility of infection, versus just a change of smell in the unrefined product, would be to use a refined version of coconut oil next time. Refined coconut oil typically has little to no perceived smell to it. One organic brand that I've used - just the refined version - is "Spectrum".

    If you use a refined version and you still get a strange smell, it still could be that you have a mild infection triggered by the damp, warm overnight use of relatively heavy oil (grapeseed, if I'm correct, is lighter in weight).
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    hambo02 wrote: »
    like a week ago.

    and the coconut oil is from trader joe's. extra virgin. unrefined

    You could try refined if you want to continue to use coconut oil on your hair, that will contain fewer 'impurities' like protein molecules which you might be sensitive to. But rather than blindly self treating it would be best to simply get a formal diagnosis. I like Waterlily716 as a curly 'guru' but she is no dermatologist.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • hambo02hambo02 Posts: 480Registered Users
    Ill try refined
  • KorkscrewKorkscrew Posts: 1,834Registered Users
    Cool! I hope you'll let us know what happened. Hopefully this does the trick ;)
  • hambo02hambo02 Posts: 480Registered Users
    well actually my scalp smelled days after the coconut and cowashes and reg washes so I picked up some t/gel and washed my air with it. it killed whatever it was on my scalp. awful for my hair but my scalp for now is cured. Ill keep doing this once in a while. thanks for the help guys!
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    hambo02 wrote: »
    well actually my scalp smelled days after the coconut and cowashes and reg washes so I picked up some t/gel and washed my air with it. it killed whatever it was on my scalp. awful for my hair but my scalp for now is cured. Ill keep doing this once in a while. thanks for the help guys!

    What was the point of this thread? You totally ignored the advice given and self treated based on a self diagnosis. T-Gel cures nothing.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • KorkscrewKorkscrew Posts: 1,834Registered Users
    I'm glad the gel seemed to help for now, as it must be frustrating to have to deal w/the unpleasant odor, but it sounds like you really should go to your primary care physician if the smell comes back. The one good thing about atypical bodily smells is that they can help signal a need for medical care. Once you take care of the underlying issue that causes the smell, you have a better chance of remaining symptom-free ;)
  • hambo02hambo02 Posts: 480Registered Users
    hambo02 wrote: »
    well actually my scalp smelled days after the coconut and cowashes and reg washes so I picked up some t/gel and washed my air with it. it killed whatever it was on my scalp. awful for my hair but my scalp for now is cured. Ill keep doing this once in a while. thanks for the help guys!

    What was the point of this thread? You totally ignored the advice given and self treated based on a self diagnosis. T-Gel cures nothing.

    haha sorry about that. the oils just made it worse. just ignore this thread now i guess or maybe others will use it if they have the same problem. sorry about that
  • hambo02hambo02 Posts: 480Registered Users
    Korkscrew wrote: »
    I'm glad the gel seemed to help for now, as it must be frustrating to have to deal w/the unpleasant odor, but it sounds like you really should go to your primary care physician if the smell comes back. The one good thing about atypical bodily smells is that they can help signal a need for medical care. Once you take care of the underlying issue that causes the smell, you have a better chance of remaining symptom-free ;)

    thank you!