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Does anyone prefer to style upright instead of upside down?

NelekeNeleke Posts: 456Registered Users
Hi curlies!

I'ver been having trouble with styling my hair.

My hair is ok when I'm still showering, but then I have to get my hair upside down and for some reason it doesn't want to go upside down without having water streaming over it and so on, just flipping it over doesn't seem to work.
I keep messing up my hair when I'm styling it and when wet it seems to be a mess (after SOTCing it look okish).
I have tried plopping which works okish but not great. (have tried for 5 minutes, 15 minutes, half an hour, more than one hour, more than 2)
I have also treid diffusing (for 5-10 minutes) which works ok as well but not great.

So I was wondering if it would be an idea to style my hair upright instead of upside down. However: would I still be able to plop or diffuse?
Are there any curlies who prefer doing everything upright?
Does anyone have some useful ideas for me to try for styling my hair?
2c: fine texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity, normal-high density
CG since March 8th 2013
Low Poo: Rainforest Radiance shampoo
Conditioner: Yes to Cucumbers
Styler: BRHG, Garnier Fructis Gel
PT: Gliss Kur Repair & Volume

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Comments

  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    Flipping over without water can make many people get tangly hair or break up clumps, I wash my hair upside down so have more of a problem if I turn right way up when only partially dry! Some chuck a cup of water over their head when upside down, some comb products through which makes hair line up nicely again but probably works best for those with a strong curl pattern.

    I'm not a fan of plopping the standard way, my straighter back really likes to be air dried or diffused from wet to get any sort of decent wave or curl. Currently experimenting with 'modified plopping' into a shower cap to support the curl and let the products settle into wet hair, then scrunching out the excess water with a flour sack towel.

    Nothing stopping you applying products and styling the right way up just leaning to each side, as long as you are happy with the amount of root lift you get and are confident you can spread products evenly that way.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • LynaeaLynaea Posts: 394Registered Users
    When I apply product upside down the clumps form in the wrong 'groups' so when I turn right side up the clumps fall apart. I apply product right side up and do one last dry with microfiber towel upside down then plop. As long as the clumps form right side up they tend to stay together for the plop. I have a hair journal in the low porosity board with more in depth info on what I've been doing. HTH
    :nemo: 2A / F / MD / LP / ?E / BSL --- CG since Dec. 2012 :nemo:

    This is what I'm happiest with right now.
    Co-wash: CJ DailyFix
    Lo-poo: DermOrganic low-poo
    RO: SS Caitlin's co
    Leave-in: SheScentIt Okra Repair condish
    PT: SS Caitlin's + SS PT
    Stylers: Volumax Mega Gel, Max Green Styling Gel, DermOrganics Spray Gel
    Techniques: Plopping & Pixie Diffusing.
    :thumbdown: glycerin, honey, oils & butters :thumright: Protein!
  • awelcomeawelcome Posts: 167Registered Users
    I am still trying to figure out a way to get good results every time, but I definitely can't style upside down. Like you said my hair doesn't just fall when I flip over and instead starts to pull apart clumps, make tangles, etc. I can carefully pull individual clumps downward in certain places or lightly shake my head side to side to help them settle downward, but I can't decide if that really is better since then after my plop the angle my hair tries to sit is all awkward.

    I do like to plop, so I am hoping not to have to give that step up, but so far I haven't found a way to keep this from happen at least a little. I do apply product in the shower (after I turned the water off) right-side up, and sort of just lean to the sides and rake a little from underneath to unslick my hair from the side of my head and distribute product better. I tried rewetting my hair when flipping and that made even more tangled mess. To get it to lay smoothly downward I have to completely wash, rinse and apply product upside down but that again makes my hair lay awkwardly later.

    I have the best luck with not trying to get my hair to fall downward everywhere but I at least try to make the roots on the top fall down a little so I don't end up with a really flat top.
    My Hair:
    2c
    Fine, low porosity, med/high density
    BSL - going for mid back to waist

    HG: currently
    just washing with a low poo that contains protein (Alba Naturals Coconut) and using Suave Naturals Coconut as both a RO and LI. No stylers right now, but this gives me pretty good curl, definition, low-ish frizz, and it feels and looks good. Also an occasional PT (liking the Palmer's Coconut Oil Formula which has cones) seems to be key for me.

    Modified CG since February 2013

  • awelcomeawelcome Posts: 167Registered Users
    oh I wanted to add.... I usually apply product to very wet hair, so then when I am done I flip and take another t-shirt other than the one I am going to plop with and use that to carefully blot (not scrunch) extra water out of my hair and that does help some of it to fall downward in a good way.
    My Hair:
    2c
    Fine, low porosity, med/high density
    BSL - going for mid back to waist

    HG: currently
    just washing with a low poo that contains protein (Alba Naturals Coconut) and using Suave Naturals Coconut as both a RO and LI. No stylers right now, but this gives me pretty good curl, definition, low-ish frizz, and it feels and looks good. Also an occasional PT (liking the Palmer's Coconut Oil Formula which has cones) seems to be key for me.

    Modified CG since February 2013

  • KatMackKatMack Posts: 60Registered Users
    I'm odd. If I diffuse then I apply more product and apply them upside down before i even get out of the shower then blot dry and diffuse to get the most natural looking curls. If I air dry I can't apply product upside down, it gives me really odd clumps, especially in the back. So If I let my hair air dry I use a lot less product and apply right side up, scrunch with a old t shirt, still right side up and plop for like 30 min before letting it air dry. It's two totally different looks. Diffusing gives me a much tighter curl and air drying gives me looser waves but less frizz so I alternate between the two.
    KAT
    ~Curly, Runner, Self-confessed Nerd~
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    2a no product/2b-c styled
    Low Porosity, Fine
    No poo-SM
    Co wash-VO5 kiwi lime*
    Rinse out- ION EC
    Leave in - Giovanni Direct then SM smoothie (ends only)
    Stylers-SM souffle topped with BRHG*

    Hair hates: glycerin (high dews here in TX)
    Hair likes: Coconut Oil*, protein

    *=HG
  • SamanthascurlzSamanthascurlz Posts: 1,082Registered Users
    When I first was natural I was religiously flipping my head over after the shower to add my gel and LI. However I got very bad crown frizz. I decided a few months ago to stop doing that and just tilt my head to the left and add product and then to the right. I still get clumps but not excessive crown frizz. It works a lot better!

    Sent from my SPH-D710VMUB using CurlTalk App
    CG, High Porosity, Fine, Low Density, Medium Elasticity
    Suave, V05, GF Go clean gel, ACV rinses, CO, and Gelatine PT.
    [URL="[url=http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/members/samanthascurlz-albums-evolvement-my-hair.html]Curls[/url]"][/url]Curls
  • JessiebananaJessiebanana Posts: 940Banned Users
    Upright for me. I don't need or want the extra volume and part of styling for me is smoothing my crown.
    3C/Fine to Medium/Low Porosity/High Density

    :love5:MoistureMoistureMoisture:love5:

    Low Poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo
    RO/DC: DB Pumpkin Seed Curl Moisturizing Conditioner
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: Queen Helene Sculpturing Gel & Glaze

    No Salts, No Waxes, No Butters, No Heavy Oils
    No ACV, No Saponified Oils, Protein Sensitive
  • LynaeaLynaea Posts: 394Registered Users
    When I first was natural I was religiously flipping my head over after the shower to add my gel and LI. However I got very bad crown frizz. I decided a few months ago to stop doing that and just tilt my head to the left and add product and then to the right. I still get clumps but not excessive crown frizz. It works a lot better!

    I also get this if I do too much styling upside down, for me it is all the new growth/baby hairs that dry 'up' if they don't get smoothed into clumps heading the right direction :occasion8:

    And as Jessie says, smoothing those hairs down while drying is important. I use the diffuser pointed down over my head at the end of drying to help smooth my canopy a bit and also use wet hands to re smooth escapees if necessary.
    :nemo: 2A / F / MD / LP / ?E / BSL --- CG since Dec. 2012 :nemo:

    This is what I'm happiest with right now.
    Co-wash: CJ DailyFix
    Lo-poo: DermOrganic low-poo
    RO: SS Caitlin's co
    Leave-in: SheScentIt Okra Repair condish
    PT: SS Caitlin's + SS PT
    Stylers: Volumax Mega Gel, Max Green Styling Gel, DermOrganics Spray Gel
    Techniques: Plopping & Pixie Diffusing.
    :thumbdown: glycerin, honey, oils & butters :thumright: Protein!
  • StarmieStarmie Posts: 6,762Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    I can't do anything upside down, my hair just doesn't fall down at all once I'm upright again, it looks like a bird's nest stuck on my head with bits hanging off it!
    I do everything right way up and just tip my head left, right and backwards as I apply products, blot with a towel and diffuse. I have no root curl and have long accepted my flat-top, I guess this would be a deal-breaker for some.
    3b in South Australia.
  • JessiebananaJessiebanana Posts: 940Banned Users
    Starmie wrote: »
    I can't do anything upside down, my hair just doesn't fall down at all once I'm upright again, it looks like a bird's nest stuck on my head with bits hanging off it!
    I do everything right way up and just tip my head left, right and backwards as I apply products, blot with a towel and diffuse. I have no root curl and have long accepted my flat-top, I guess this would be a deal-breaker for some.

    Thanks for the mental image :laughing8:!
    3C/Fine to Medium/Low Porosity/High Density

    :love5:MoistureMoistureMoisture:love5:

    Low Poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo
    RO/DC: DB Pumpkin Seed Curl Moisturizing Conditioner
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: Queen Helene Sculpturing Gel & Glaze

    No Salts, No Waxes, No Butters, No Heavy Oils
    No ACV, No Saponified Oils, Protein Sensitive
  • PookarinaPookarina Posts: 69Registered Users
    I rinse out my condish upside down for the last cold rinse and then I squeeze as much water as I can out, and I put in my CurlKeeper upside down.
    Then I wrap it regular for a few moments while I dry off and then I start to apply product right side up.
    I don't plop cause it made my hair funny.
    I do tip to the sides while diffusing but I don't take it to all the way dry.

    Not everyone's hair likes to be styled upside down so don't worry, just do what works for you.

    There are NO rules!
  • NelekeNeleke Posts: 456Registered Users
    Yesterday I had a EVOO-honeyDT, I styled upside down and my hair looked really good.
    I am going to try it right way up too though... wonder if that would avoid bird's nest. (I had that happening A LOT)
    2c: fine texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity, normal-high density
    CG since March 8th 2013
    Low Poo: Rainforest Radiance shampoo
    Conditioner: Yes to Cucumbers
    Styler: BRHG, Garnier Fructis Gel
    PT: Gliss Kur Repair & Volume

    iherb.com: get a 5$ discount on orders under 40$ or a 10$ discount on orders over 40$ when you order for your first order by using the following discount code: CFH441
  • awelcomeawelcome Posts: 167Registered Users
    Just to see if anything had changed I tried raking my hair downward when I was putting my LI in so it all fell properly downward. It looked ok when it was wet, but now the top later is pretty straight in the back and quite frizzy.
    My Hair:
    2c
    Fine, low porosity, med/high density
    BSL - going for mid back to waist

    HG: currently
    just washing with a low poo that contains protein (Alba Naturals Coconut) and using Suave Naturals Coconut as both a RO and LI. No stylers right now, but this gives me pretty good curl, definition, low-ish frizz, and it feels and looks good. Also an occasional PT (liking the Palmer's Coconut Oil Formula which has cones) seems to be key for me.

    Modified CG since February 2013

  • SamanthascurlzSamanthascurlz Posts: 1,082Registered Users
    Starmie wrote: »
    I can't do anything upside down, my hair just doesn't fall down at all once I'm upright again, it looks like a bird's nest stuck on my head with bits hanging off it!
    I do everything right way up and just tip my head left, right and backwards as I apply products, blot with a towel and diffuse. I have no root curl and have long accepted my flat-top, I guess this would be a deal-breaker for some.

    I do the exact same thing! Do you think that maybe to help give a little root lift you could try the duck clips while diffusing?
    CG, High Porosity, Fine, Low Density, Medium Elasticity
    Suave, V05, GF Go clean gel, ACV rinses, CO, and Gelatine PT.
    [URL="[url=http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/members/samanthascurlz-albums-evolvement-my-hair.html]Curls[/url]"][/url]Curls
  • StarmieStarmie Posts: 6,762Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Starmie wrote: »
    I can't do anything upside down, my hair just doesn't fall down at all once I'm upright again, it looks like a bird's nest stuck on my head with bits hanging off it!
    I do everything right way up and just tip my head left, right and backwards as I apply products, blot with a towel and diffuse. I have no root curl and have long accepted my flat-top, I guess this would be a deal-breaker for some.

    Thanks for the mental image :laughing8:!

    You're welcome!
    I never put pics of myself online otherwise I'd show you what it looks like, it really is weird. I have to part my hair - can't fathom how people 'just let the hair fall' as mine just doesn't!
    3b in South Australia.
  • StarmieStarmie Posts: 6,762Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Starmie wrote: »
    I can't do anything upside down, my hair just doesn't fall down at all once I'm upright again, it looks like a bird's nest stuck on my head with bits hanging off it!
    I do everything right way up and just tip my head left, right and backwards as I apply products, blot with a towel and diffuse. I have no root curl and have long accepted my flat-top, I guess this would be a deal-breaker for some.

    I do the exact same thing! Do you think that maybe to help give a little root lift you could try the duck clips while diffusing?

    I did try with the clips once upon a time and did have some success but it looked strange to me, I think I'd just got so used to the straightness. I also have a fringe that I straighten and it's easier to blend it into the rest of my hair with the flat top going on.
    I'm over fighting with my hair, I have a good level of acceptance for what it is and what it can do so I've just about given up trying to get it to do what it rebels against!
    I'm 50 and have to say it's been a long time coming!
    3b in South Australia.
  • hambo02hambo02 Posts: 480Registered Users
    i apply upside down and right side up. I get frizz though. I noticed if I just apply or scrunch tilting my head to left and right and i get better hair. But I've been getting alot of frizz when I scrunch so I let the plopping do alot of that now. I use to part my hair to the side for a long time but I've been getting bored with it and how short it looks and it's a huge frizz ball if it isn't done right. so today I parted it in the middle. so far it looks good and my hair looks less short.
  • YoshimiYoshimi Posts: 237Registered Users
    I have to smooth on product with my head right way up to deal with crown frizz, then flip my head and supersoak before applying more product to the lengths. Then I plop and either diffuse upside down and to the sides, or shake it back into place to air dry.

    Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using CurlTalk App
    2C, Medium thickness, Low posity
    Recovering from a year of keratin and bleach with CG

    Routine

    Low Poo, Condition, Leave in, Curl cream, Supersoak, Gel, Diffuse on high heat, with minimal lift to encourage waves and reduce frizz, Dry on cool with nozzle down to smooth hair and finish drying,Shine Serum

    Weekly gelatin protien treatments.

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