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Having trouble with 2nd day hair. tips?

Hi

I've got fine hair. 3a/b-ish. chin length curls.
I sleep on a silksatin pillow case, and have tried the pineapple method. I really can't touch it too much because then my curls get out of shape. Even a gentle pineapple doesn't really work. I have tried using a scarf to protect my hair, but I find it a very unpleasant feeling.

And I don't like washing (or thoroughly wetting) my hair every morning.

that's why I need some tips. Do I have to put anything in my hair before pineapple-ing.

Thank you for your help! :)
3a/b cherub curls, normal porosity, low/medium density. medium/fine width.
CG since September 2012
and curly-hairlover since forever.

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  • anonymous_134725anonymous_134725 Posts: 22Registered Users
    Anyone please?
    3a/b cherub curls, normal porosity, low/medium density. medium/fine width.
    CG since September 2012
    and curly-hairlover since forever.
  • anonymous_133347anonymous_133347 Posts: 1,426Registered Users
    I'm beginning to think I might be unusual with my luck with second day hair (seeing as how many women complain about how they can't get it) but oh well. Here goes. I sleep on a silk pillowcase too. But I can't stand pineappling. I'm sure it's my imagination but I swear it gives me a headache. It just feels funny. So what I do is sweep my hair up over my head so I'm not laying on it. When I wake up in the morning my curls often seem fuzzy, wavy and bent out of shape in many places. That's no problem. I part my hair into two sides, left and right. I wet my palms with water from the sink and sweep down each side gently. I don't soak my hair. I'm talking a slight dampening. Then I typically take a dime size of leave in conditioner and sweep it over the body of my hair (between my palms) for a bit of slip. I do this on each side. I like to use Shea Moisture's Curl & Shine milk or Kinky Curly Knot today for this but you could use anything probably. Some watered down rinseout as well. So yes, smooth down. Then I gently, very gently, finger comb between ringlets, curls, waves, and pieces of hair that have gotten tangled or are overlapping or that have just plain come apart. The water and pinch of conidtioner helps the clumps reform somewhat and puts my hair back in order so it's laying as it should. More vertical, less horizontal with tangles and/or frizz. Then I take a bit of refreshing product, typically a dime size again, then I smooth on and scrunch up. For this I like to use gellies or curl creams, I guess. FSG, SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie, Kinky Curly Knot Today. Just smooth on and over the body of your hair. Scrunch up. Presto! Unfrizzy curls, looking as good if not better than the first day. Also, since I've only dampened my hair very slightly it is always dry in fifteen minutes or less. Again, I realize this is just me. I'm porous so my hair is not easily weighed down and I can add product back in. And my curl pattern, while loose, is strong enough that it can be resuscitated with a modicum of effort. I'm talking five minutes tops. Maybe three. And I also think the weather has a lot to do with it. I don't have to deal with humidity so my hair is very predictable. I hope this helps you. I realize it won't work for everyone but it's tried and true for me. I can get to four day hair with this routine.
    3A - C, HP, ME, HD. (Coarse, High Porosity, Medium Elasticity, High Density.)

    CG since Nov. 2012

    Poos: SM Moisture Retention + Yucca Baobab, TJ's Tea Tree Tingle
    Condish: TJ 'sTea Tree Tingle*, SM Moisture Retention* + Curl & Shine + Yucca Baobab, Yes to Blueberries
    Stylers: KCKT*, SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie* + Curl & Style Milk*, KCCC*, FSG*, CJ Pattern Pusha, Curl Keeper
    Sealers: Jojoba* or Grapeseed* oil

    * = HG

  • FloridaCurlyFloridaCurly Posts: 21Registered Users
    My routine is somewhat similar to dusalocks. I have a chin length bob so I don't section out my hair. I rub a pea-size amount of SM Curl & Shine milk (I couldn't use this per directions because it weighed my hair down but it works great this way - and I get to use up the product!) in my hands and spray two pumps of SS Protein Spray (my hair loves protein), rub my hands together, smooth down canopy, and then gently rake through my curls. I end up with wavier hair, think beach waves, but I like the look and I particularly like not having to totally restyle my hair. I do this for third day hair too. I live in a humid climate with dews now in the 70's and it's still working!
    2C/Fine Texture/Normal Porosity/Normal Elasticity/Very Humid Climate
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    Waterlily716 on YouTube has some good videos on second day hair.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • anonymous_134725anonymous_134725 Posts: 22Registered Users
    thank you dusalock and floridacurly. I will try your methods. I hope they will work for me.

    Firefox, I know :) I'm a fan of her videos <3

    Only I hope I will find a leave-in conditioner. I live belgium (in europe)
    the only one I came across so far was a leave in by Yes To.
    3a/b cherub curls, normal porosity, low/medium density. medium/fine width.
    CG since September 2012
    and curly-hairlover since forever.
  • frizzinflafrizzinfla Posts: 190Registered Users
    FloridaCurly - Thanks for the tip re SM milk. It's too heavy and over-conditioning when I use as recommended, but will try using it on second day hair.
  • FloridaCurlyFloridaCurly Posts: 21Registered Users
    frizzinfla wrote: »
    FloridaCurly - Thanks for the tip re SM milk. It's too heavy and over-conditioning when I use as recommended, but will try using it on second day hair.

    Frizzinfla - you are welcome! I really use very little of the SM milk. You have longer hair than me so you could probably use a bit more. The amount I use very thinly coats my hands (after I'm done with my hair I rub my hands together like putting on hand lotion - makes my hands soft and they smell good.) From our usernames we are both Florida girls and that can wreak havoc on our hair. I have trouble using glycerin in the summer so that is why I use the SM milk because there is no glycerin in it.
    2C/Fine Texture/Normal Porosity/Normal Elasticity/Very Humid Climate
  • FrizzBgoneFrizzBgone Posts: 2,678Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I've had a lot of luck lately with 2nd and 3rd day hair. I only do 3rd day hair on the weekends or if I don't have time to do my hair. While my hair is passable for 3rd day, I don't like the feel of it.

    My hair length is a longer bob. I pull my hair up in a pineapple; not all of it is pulled up. My hair is too short to get all of it up. I sleep on a silk pillowcase. I tried satin pillowcase at first, but it didn't work for me. Satin is a synthetic fibre and it makes me sweat. Silk, on the other hand, is a natural fibre. I don't swear and my hair is much better.

    Before going to bed I scrunch in a product. It seems to protect my hair from getting frizzy overnight. I've tried several different products. Lately my favourite is Komaza Coconut Hair Pudding. I scrunch some in to the hair I have pulled up. Whatever is left in my hands, I scrunch in to the hair that was too short to pull up.

    The next morning I take out the scrunchie and shake my hair out. I scrunch in some Komaza Califia Moisturizing Cream. It prevents frizz from forming through the day.


    Sent from my iPhone using CurlTalk
    Type: 3a fine & dense,with normal porosity, terrible product junkie
    ROUTINE: LI, enhancer, gel, plop with Curlease towel, serum product (either CIAB or Gel-les'c), clip & diffuse.
    Too many favourite products to list ... I finally have my routine that works and alot of products to choose from. My product stash is huge, but well loved !!!
  • hiplengthcurlshiplengthcurls Posts: 29Registered Users
    On my wash day I leave on a deep conditioner by Giovanni then do the loc method, then for second day hair I just spray with water and/or watered down Giovanni, and I put the Giovanni hard hold styling gel on, this gel lifts my curls up and makes my hair come to life. It would otherwise droop and I would have to finger comb. If I feel like my hair is getting dry then I would do the loc method again, and When I do that I always finger comb for even distribution. For me, I have two options, finger combing and/or gel. Finger combing reshape a my curls and gets the products to adhere to my strands without dry spots. But even then I have to follow up with gel because my hair gets flat.


    Charlotte Quevedo - YouTube

    Hi

    I've got fine hair. 3a/b-ish. chin length curls.
    I sleep on a silksatin pillow case, and have tried the pineapple method. I really can't touch it too much because then my curls get out of shape. Even a gentle pineapple doesn't really work. I have tried using a scarf to protect my hair, but I find it a very unpleasant feeling.

    And I don't like washing (or thoroughly wetting) my hair every morning.

    that's why I need some tips. Do I have to put anything in my hair before pineapple-ing.

    Thank you for your help! :)
  • anonymous_134725anonymous_134725 Posts: 22Registered Users
    I haven't really heard of the loc method but tried something like that first made my hair wet, then put oil on it and then conditioner. And then gel. Have had a few compliments that it looked so good. It pretty much recovered my hair and made it a lot less dry.
    3a/b cherub curls, normal porosity, low/medium density. medium/fine width.
    CG since September 2012
    and curly-hairlover since forever.
  • CurlyInTheFogCurlyInTheFog Posts: 876Registered Users
    I'm using the SM Milk thinned with quite a bit of water, with a little oil added. This seems to be working pretty well. My main issue is that with clipping my hair up during the day, I lose curl in the front but not the back, so the front is very loose and the back is very curly. Still figuring that one out. Has anyone used just a bit of KCCC, maybe thinned with water, to scrunch up curls next day?

    ETA: It's probably about a pea-sized amount of the SM and a drop or two of oil. My hair is about BSL wet and very thick.
    3a/b, F, normal porosity

    Suave conditioner, LAL gel
  • SamanthascurlzSamanthascurlz Posts: 1,082Registered Users
    Have you tried a little coconut oil? I use that on second day hair.
    CG, High Porosity, Fine, Low Density, Medium Elasticity
    Suave, V05, GF Go clean gel, ACV rinses, CO, and Gelatine PT.
    [URL="[url=http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/members/samanthascurlz-albums-evolvement-my-hair.html]Curls[/url]"][/url]Curls
  • megglemeggle Posts: 10Registered Users
    What is the loc method?
    3a/2c, medium thickness, medium density, medium porosity (I think! :))


    Cleanser: Deva No-Poo
    Conditioner: Deva OneCondition
    Leave-in: KCKT
    Stylers: Spiral Solutions Firm Hold Gel/Spiral Solutions Shapely Spirals (formerly Curl Enhancing Jelly)

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • CurlyInTheFogCurlyInTheFog Posts: 876Registered Users
    meggle wrote: »
    What is the loc method?

    If you google "loc method," lots of info will come up. Basically, it's laying Liquid (water), Oil, Cream to help seal in moisture. What I want to know is if it works as well if you mix all three together, which is what I'm doing now (water, oil, SM Milk). Too much manipulation doesn't seem to make my hair too happy, so doing something three times may not work all that well.
    3a/b, F, normal porosity

    Suave conditioner, LAL gel
  • SamanthascurlzSamanthascurlz Posts: 1,082Registered Users
    I am wondering if this LOC method takes in the PH of products and the actual moisturizers of products. I need to do more research. It seems it is a lot more sealing. But this is very interesting.
    CG, High Porosity, Fine, Low Density, Medium Elasticity
    Suave, V05, GF Go clean gel, ACV rinses, CO, and Gelatine PT.
    [URL="[url=http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/members/samanthascurlz-albums-evolvement-my-hair.html]Curls[/url]"][/url]Curls

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