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KCCC: Do or don't for fine/low porosity curly?

I'm trying to find a new styling product because I'm almost out of CJ CQ and that hasn't enough hold for me and I think my hair is not too fond of the polyquats, so I'm looking for something new. I'm considering getting KCCC, and have done my research, but seeing that there are so many different experiences, I'd love to hear more specific stories.

What I'm most curious about:
- Does it provide some hold? 'Cause I could definitely use some.
- Does it help to define your curls?
- How do low porosity curlies feel about KCCC? Does it sit on top of your hair or does it do quite well?
- How about fine curlies? Does it way down or is it a rather light product?

By comparison, my hair hates oils and they weigh it down. My hair is okay with CJ CQ, but it has not enough hold and I get build-up from the polyquats. My hair hates CJ CCCL (which is too bad. I wanted to love it, but it just doesn't work for me).

I have to order it tomorrow because delivery takes a few weeks and I think CQ will last me only a few weeks.

I know it's difficult to really determine whether I will love or hate KCCC, but I think these questions (or rather, the answers) will definitely help to get an idea of how this stuff works.
F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Petal Fresh Organics Rosemary & Mint Volumizing Shampoo
Protein: Colorful Neutral Protein Filler
Detangler/RO: KCKT (winter) or Curl Junkie Beauticurls Argan & Olive Oil (summer)
Styling: KCCC

Beauty Is Not a Number
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  • New_to_CurlzNew_to_Curlz Posts: 115Registered Users
    I love it.
    It does provide hold and curl definition for my fine, low porosity waves.
    It can feel coated if I use too much but I only use a little. I also like to use it on soaking wet hair and then comb it through or rake with my fingers. If I do a quick cold rinse after, it gives me good clumps and distributes the KCCC.

    Hope that helps :)
    Fine texture
    Low/ Med porosity
    Med density

    Wash: SM MR, GTTT
    RO: SM MR, GTTT
    LI: SM CSM or SM MR
    Styling:AVG, KCCC, Volumax MEGA (HG), Joico Curl Definer
  • KatMackKatMack Posts: 60Registered Users
    I'm fine and low porosity as well and kccc is by far one of my favorite products. There is a learning curve with it, and a little goes a long way. one jar lasts forever. I feel like that in itself helps my waves since there's so little product in my hair, it doesn't weigh it down. That being said I don't use it by itself i use it almost like a curl enhancer. Some people think the hold is strong and use it alone, some do not. For me I use maybe a dimes worth biosilk gellee over it on day one for more hold especially if I diffuse. As to your other concerns, I don't believe it has oils in it, and i know it doesn't have polyquats but it does have aloe which bothers some curlies. HTH
    KAT
    ~Curly, Runner, Self-confessed Nerd~
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    2a no product/2b-c styled
    Low Porosity, Fine
    No poo-SM
    Co wash-VO5 kiwi lime*
    Rinse out- ION EC
    Leave in - Giovanni Direct then SM smoothie (ends only)
    Stylers-SM souffle topped with BRHG*

    Hair hates: glycerin (high dews here in TX)
    Hair likes: Coconut Oil*, protein

    *=HG
  • angelicakangelicak Posts: 127Registered Users
    I'm interested in KCCC too, I'm fine and low po so I can't wait to see others answers :)
    CG since: 2/9/2013
    HAIR: 2a/b with nearly straight hair at neck, flat on top, low porosity, medium density, fine, medium length
    Currently using:
    Low Poo/No Poo: SM YB, Malibu C Hardwater Wellness (every other day)
    Rinse Out: Malibu C Hardwater Wellness Conditioner
    Leave In: SM Coconut Hibiscus Curl and Style Milk
    Gel: Volumax (Sally's)
    PT: gelatin!
    DT: Curls Unleashed NR

    Love diffusing.:p
    Always learning!
  • claudine191claudine191 Posts: 8,220Registered Users
    It was a waste of time and money for me.

    I'm fine haired and possibly high porosity (I don't know how to fisure it out once and for all).
  • LauraimesLauraimes Posts: 880Registered Users
    Thanks for the answers so far! Sounds very promising :-) Curious to hear more.

    Claudine, why was it a waste of money for you? With regards to porosity: I discovered my hair has low porosity because it doesn't absorb anything. For example, when I spray water on my hair to re-wet it, I see all these beads of water just sit on it. The same goes for many other things (oils in particular). It just sits on my hair. I did the slide test as well but found it very difficult to determine my hair's porosity that way.
    F - LP - HD - NE
    Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
    Hairtype 2c

    Low poo: Petal Fresh Organics Rosemary & Mint Volumizing Shampoo
    Protein: Colorful Neutral Protein Filler
    Detangler/RO: KCKT (winter) or Curl Junkie Beauticurls Argan & Olive Oil (summer)
    Styling: KCCC

    Beauty Is Not a Number
  • claudine191claudine191 Posts: 8,220Registered Users
    Oh, that's helpful to know! Thank you.

    My hair soaks very easily. In fact, this explains why I hate being out in the rain; my hair starts dripping down my face and neck almost immediately.

    As for KCCC, it soaked into my hair to the extent that it literally took about 14 hours to dry.
  • CurlyJulie81CurlyJulie81 Posts: 110Registered Users
    I'm a pretty high porosity girl, but baby fine curls and KCCC works great for me, even with a leave in underneath. :)
    3a/b fine, high porosity, medium density. Mod- CG

    Sulfate-free Shampoo: SheaMoisture Curl and Shine shampoo with Epsom salts.
    Co-wash: TRESemme Naturals,
    Leave in: TN Radiant volume, KCKT, YTC pampering conditioner
    Summer styler: LA Looks Spiked Gel(summer only)
    Seal: Argan Oil/Macademia Oil
    Winter styler: KCCC, AIF, Beyond the Zone Noodlehead curling creme(not CG)
    DT: GVPCB, coconut oil
    PT: GVP Hair Reconstructor
    osWchwy.jpg?1Embracing my curls.:love7:
  • LauraimesLauraimes Posts: 880Registered Users
    Wow Julie! Your curls look amazing. And I'm surprised to hear so many positive responses. I just might order some today... (it's lunchtime here, I know many of you will probably be sleeping right now).
    F - LP - HD - NE
    Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
    Hairtype 2c

    Low poo: Petal Fresh Organics Rosemary & Mint Volumizing Shampoo
    Protein: Colorful Neutral Protein Filler
    Detangler/RO: KCKT (winter) or Curl Junkie Beauticurls Argan & Olive Oil (summer)
    Styling: KCCC

    Beauty Is Not a Number
  • LauraimesLauraimes Posts: 880Registered Users
    Anyone else who'd like to share her experiences?

    Someone suggested I'd try Pattern Pusha and after having done my research, I'm not sure. People seem to like Pattern Pusha, but prefer KCCC over it (generally speaking). There were also a lot of comparisons to the Ecostylers. It seems that these are more readily available in the Netherlands for way less money (€25,- for 8 oz KCCC vs. €3,95 for any Ecostyler 16 oz) but I'm not sure about the Ecostyler. Obviously I should get one without oils, but what holds me back is that people say Ecostylers weigh your hair down more than KCCC does. My hair already weighs down very easily so that's why I'm guessing the Ecostyler might not be right for me. If anyone has some experiences in this regard, please let me know.
    F - LP - HD - NE
    Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
    Hairtype 2c

    Low poo: Petal Fresh Organics Rosemary & Mint Volumizing Shampoo
    Protein: Colorful Neutral Protein Filler
    Detangler/RO: KCKT (winter) or Curl Junkie Beauticurls Argan & Olive Oil (summer)
    Styling: KCCC

    Beauty Is Not a Number
  • shellyRN07swavyshellyRN07swavy Posts: 309Registered Users
    I like more volume to my hair, and could NOT use KCCC. It made my hair feel very product-like and weighed down(like it just sat on top of my hair). It also took a few hours to dry with diffusing and several hours if air drying. I just dont have that much time. I use to use CJ PPgel for slip. But it had no hold for me and it elongated my waves. Not something I want. Never tried ecostyler. You might be better trying Biosilk rock hard gelee. Im still using okra gel, but barely getting 2nd day hair with the Florida weather. Might try out biosilk RHG again.hmmm.
    2b/c CG since 8/12
    I have low porosity and fine/med texture. Easily weighed down and VERY frizzy crown, with straighter under layers

    Low-poo:TJ TTT, CJ GCS
    LI/RO/DC: CK Satin Roots,Sevi Pumpkin, SSI Okra reconstructor, CJ SAC,CJ RM
    Stylers: AG Recoil, JC SS
    Jellies: CK Coil Jam, Okra gel(HG)
    Gel: JC CC, Ouidad H&H gel, Ouidad moisture lock gel

    Hair loves moisture:love3: protein.
    MUST Pixie diffuse.

    My hair dose NOT like oils, butters or polyquats:twisted: Or glycerin in high dews
  • LauraimesLauraimes Posts: 880Registered Users
    Hmm, quite the opposite of what I want. Lots of people talk about shrinkage which would actually be fine with me.

    I'll do some research on BRHG because I've seen that a lot of people use that.

    Thanks for your reply, Shelly!
    F - LP - HD - NE
    Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
    Hairtype 2c

    Low poo: Petal Fresh Organics Rosemary & Mint Volumizing Shampoo
    Protein: Colorful Neutral Protein Filler
    Detangler/RO: KCKT (winter) or Curl Junkie Beauticurls Argan & Olive Oil (summer)
    Styling: KCCC

    Beauty Is Not a Number
  • shellyRN07swavyshellyRN07swavy Posts: 309Registered Users
    If you are looking for hold, then CJ PPgel in my opinion is a med/soft hold gel. CJ curl queen is a medium while Biosilk is definitely a hard. The new deva gel (ultra defining) is a hard hold gel I heard. Not sure if you can get samples of those. If you want to pay for the samples and shipping, I could send you some(of the Biosilk, CJ PPgel and Deva gel)to try. :) How are you liking the AO GPB conditioner?
    2b/c CG since 8/12
    I have low porosity and fine/med texture. Easily weighed down and VERY frizzy crown, with straighter under layers

    Low-poo:TJ TTT, CJ GCS
    LI/RO/DC: CK Satin Roots,Sevi Pumpkin, SSI Okra reconstructor, CJ SAC,CJ RM
    Stylers: AG Recoil, JC SS
    Jellies: CK Coil Jam, Okra gel(HG)
    Gel: JC CC, Ouidad H&H gel, Ouidad moisture lock gel

    Hair loves moisture:love3: protein.
    MUST Pixie diffuse.

    My hair dose NOT like oils, butters or polyquats:twisted: Or glycerin in high dews
  • LauraimesLauraimes Posts: 880Registered Users
    Hi Shelly!

    I'm not sure about CJ PP. I got a PM this week from someone who wanted to swap it but after doing some research, I'm not entirely convinced if that's the right product for me. I'm a bit wary when it comes to CJ now that I've had almost all products not really working for me. Also, I have CQ and it's okay, but lacks hold so I think I want something with a stronger hold.

    I haven't had much time since your reply to research BRHG, but I've seen it a lot on the forum and most people seem to love it and use it over KCCC. I'll have to look into it when I come back from uni later today (having breakfast right now, 07:41 am here), but I'm pretty enthusiastic and though pricey, it's quite easy to get, especially compared to the other products. I just might want to try them both.

    Thanks for the kind offer! It's tempting but I know shipping to the Netherlands is expensive, so I'd better get full size products then.

    So far I'm liking AO GPB. I had a pretty okay hair day yesterday for a first day (posted a picture in this topic http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/protein-craving/156161-2c-3a-fine-low-por-want-try-pt-4.html#post2167843) and I'm curious to see how today goes. It's still trying and I have to leave for uni now (which sucks because my hair looks terrible when I ride my bike while it's still wet) and it rains (which is a good thing when my hair is already dry...). We'll see, keep you posted!
    F - LP - HD - NE
    Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
    Hairtype 2c

    Low poo: Petal Fresh Organics Rosemary & Mint Volumizing Shampoo
    Protein: Colorful Neutral Protein Filler
    Detangler/RO: KCKT (winter) or Curl Junkie Beauticurls Argan & Olive Oil (summer)
    Styling: KCCC

    Beauty Is Not a Number
  • PomegranateCurlPomegranateCurl Posts: 212Registered Users
    Lauraimes wrote: »
    There were also a lot of comparisons to the Ecostylers. It seems that these are more readily available in the Netherlands for way less money (€25,- for 8 oz KCCC vs. €3,95 for any Ecostyler 16 oz) but I'm not sure about the Ecostyler.

    KCCC is a lot cheaper on iherb.com. Kinky-Curly, Original Curling Custard, Natural Styling Gel, 8 oz - iHerb.com It costs $16.99 USD for the 8oz. You can also use my coupon!
  • LauraimesLauraimes Posts: 880Registered Users
    Hi PomegranateGirl! I know, I intend to order it via iHerb. Shipping is only $4,- over there (without track & trace though and it takes a few weeks). Thanks for the tip though! I don't think I can use your code since I'm already registered as a customer, but I'm not sure. With regards to KCCC, do you have any pros or cons?

    Shelly, you never guess. I did my research on BRHG and discovered that it's not only easy to order it on a Dutch webshop, but I can even get it in store. I couldn't believe that, but I went there and asked them for a sample. I can't wait to try it! Hope it works for me, would be great to be able to get something right from the store instead of having to order online and wait for weeks :-D

    Now I'm just wondering... I probably won't wash my hair until upcoming Tuesday. Shall I just try it tomorrow without any of my other styling products or wait until Tuesday? I'm a bit impatient but washing my hair before that will kill my curls. I'm also wondering how much I will have to use, so if you have any tips, please let me know.

    Anyone else who can chime in or can tell me more about KCCC, please reply :-)
    F - LP - HD - NE
    Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
    Hairtype 2c

    Low poo: Petal Fresh Organics Rosemary & Mint Volumizing Shampoo
    Protein: Colorful Neutral Protein Filler
    Detangler/RO: KCKT (winter) or Curl Junkie Beauticurls Argan & Olive Oil (summer)
    Styling: KCCC

    Beauty Is Not a Number
  • sKorpio1190sKorpio1190 Posts: 1,862Registered Users
    It has a lot of hold for me. Too much. It leaves my hair hard and crunchy and I can't scrunch it out. It defines my hair well but I don't like that hard as a rock feeling. I have fine, low porosity hair. I use Shea moisture curling soufflé instead in tiny amounts
    Medium texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity :shock:
  • LauraimesLauraimes Posts: 880Registered Users
    I've looked at the SheaMoisture Curling Souffle as well. I'm very tempted because it sounds wonderful, but it has shea butter in it (heavy, I was told) and several oils. I don't dare take the risk because my hair weighs down easily. Is it heavy? What do you think about the souffle?

    In general: I'm wondering whether KCCC works for curlies with longer hair. I haven't really given it much thought but can anyone comment?
    F - LP - HD - NE
    Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
    Hairtype 2c

    Low poo: Petal Fresh Organics Rosemary & Mint Volumizing Shampoo
    Protein: Colorful Neutral Protein Filler
    Detangler/RO: KCKT (winter) or Curl Junkie Beauticurls Argan & Olive Oil (summer)
    Styling: KCCC

    Beauty Is Not a Number
  • KatMackKatMack Posts: 60Registered Users
    My hair gets easily weighed down and I personally prefer the sheamoisture soufflé. (Note, my hair loves coconut oil) I feel like I get more definition with it, it turns my waves into almost curls, and I also use a tiny amount. If you use more than a tiny amount, at least for me and my fiancee, it does turn out to have a gross, hard/oily feeling.

    Also I can work with the soufflé more while its wet, it lets me scrunch, rake, and mess with my hair more. Kccc has almost a flash drying effect with me that I don't love. Once I put it in my hair I can't rake to reform curls if any get weird on me without more water. I don't like that part but I still get fabulous curls with it.

    i like thatI can even overnight plop using the souffle, i think its because i can manipulate my hair more while its drying when i use it.I can sort of make it work with kccc but not as predictable results.

    I love both and I don't think you would go wrong trying either one. Also I second the brhg suggestion, that stuff is amazing. I use it over everything.
    KAT
    ~Curly, Runner, Self-confessed Nerd~
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    2a no product/2b-c styled
    Low Porosity, Fine
    No poo-SM
    Co wash-VO5 kiwi lime*
    Rinse out- ION EC
    Leave in - Giovanni Direct then SM smoothie (ends only)
    Stylers-SM souffle topped with BRHG*

    Hair hates: glycerin (high dews here in TX)
    Hair likes: Coconut Oil*, protein

    *=HG
  • sKorpio1190sKorpio1190 Posts: 1,862Registered Users
    Lauraimes wrote: »
    I've looked at the SheaMoisture Curling Souffle as well. I'm very tempted because it sounds wonderful, but it has shea butter in it (heavy, I was told) and several oils. I don't dare take the risk because my hair weighs down easily. Is it heavy? What do you think about the souffle?

    In general: I'm wondering whether KCCC works for curlies with longer hair. I haven't really given it much thought but can anyone comment?

    It is heavy if u use too much. I use about a teaspoon or so for my hair. I don't need much with it since the oil makes it distribute easily
    Medium texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity :shock:
  • LauraimesLauraimes Posts: 880Registered Users
    Oh you make me so curious about the souffle! Do you use anything under the souffle? I know most people have to use a leave-in under KCCC, but I actually prefer using as few products as possible. Seeing that the souffle has many moisturising ingredients (if I'm not mistaken), it should moisturise as well.

    I tried the tiniest amount of BRHG today and I have massive crunch and no clumps. I used it over CQ and I must say that CQ isn't the best choice for my hair, but at least it used to give me some clumps. I'll see what happens when I just use BRHG after I've washed my hair, when it's all clean and productless.
    F - LP - HD - NE
    Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
    Hairtype 2c

    Low poo: Petal Fresh Organics Rosemary & Mint Volumizing Shampoo
    Protein: Colorful Neutral Protein Filler
    Detangler/RO: KCKT (winter) or Curl Junkie Beauticurls Argan & Olive Oil (summer)
    Styling: KCCC

    Beauty Is Not a Number
  • sKorpio1190sKorpio1190 Posts: 1,862Registered Users
    Lauraimes wrote: »
    Oh you make me so curious about the souffle! Do you use anything under the souffle? I know most people have to use a leave-in under KCCC, but I actually prefer using as few products as possible. Seeing that the souffle has many moisturising ingredients (if I'm not mistaken), it should moisturise as well.

    I tried the tiniest amount of BRHG today and I have massive crunch and no clumps. I used it over CQ and I must say that CQ isn't the best choice for my hair, but at least it used to give me some clumps. I'll see what happens when I just use BRHG after I've washed my hair, when it's all clean and productless.

    Nope. I use the soufflé alone. I can't use more than one product in my hair because its weighed down so easily
    Medium texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity :shock:
  • LauraimesLauraimes Posts: 880Registered Users
    Sounds like my hair, sKorpio. What are your properties?
    F - LP - HD - NE
    Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
    Hairtype 2c

    Low poo: Petal Fresh Organics Rosemary & Mint Volumizing Shampoo
    Protein: Colorful Neutral Protein Filler
    Detangler/RO: KCKT (winter) or Curl Junkie Beauticurls Argan & Olive Oil (summer)
    Styling: KCCC

    Beauty Is Not a Number
  • sKorpio1190sKorpio1190 Posts: 1,862Registered Users
    Lauraimes wrote: »
    Sounds like my hair, sKorpio. What are your properties?

    Lately soufflé is making my top layers stringy and hard :-/ and I'm normal porosity and elasticity and medium texture
    Medium texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity :shock:
  • awelcomeawelcome Posts: 167Registered Users
    I am still really on the fence about trying either KCCC or the souffle too. I have fine, low porosity hair as well and so far haven't found any HG's for my hair. I feel like I am getting there with the low poos and RO's I am using, and I have been using those as a LI as well in small amounts and my hair is soft and healthy looking, but now I need to find the right stylers because my curls need definition, hold and some frizz control. I like soft curls, and so far haven't ever loved gels, but I am afraid to try either of those two curl enhancers because they seem like they might weigh my curls down and I know most people then put a gel over them. So many things to think about lol.
    My Hair:
    2c
    Fine, low porosity, med/high density
    BSL - going for mid back to waist

    HG: currently
    just washing with a low poo that contains protein (Alba Naturals Coconut) and using Suave Naturals Coconut as both a RO and LI. No stylers right now, but this gives me pretty good curl, definition, low-ish frizz, and it feels and looks good. Also an occasional PT (liking the Palmer's Coconut Oil Formula which has cones) seems to be key for me.

    Modified CG since February 2013

  • LauraimesLauraimes Posts: 880Registered Users
    It's quite a challenge to discover what works for your hair, isn't it?

    I'm still not sure which one I want to use. The Soufflé is much more expensive and more difficult to get for me (I live in the Netherlands) than KCCC.

    However, I'm going to try some homemade FSG first. Got some flaxseeds today and who knows, it might just be what I'm looking for :)

    Btw, I prefer using just one styling products. Otherwise my hair just feels coated and it gets weighed down so easily.
    F - LP - HD - NE
    Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
    Hairtype 2c

    Low poo: Petal Fresh Organics Rosemary & Mint Volumizing Shampoo
    Protein: Colorful Neutral Protein Filler
    Detangler/RO: KCKT (winter) or Curl Junkie Beauticurls Argan & Olive Oil (summer)
    Styling: KCCC

    Beauty Is Not a Number
  • awelcomeawelcome Posts: 167Registered Users
    I was considering trying my own FSG or Okra gel first too, but after researching all the things I would need to get started (which admittedly would save in the long run if it was a product I used again and again) seemed pricey for a MAYBE. I am thinking I may order one from BB first to try out.
    My Hair:
    2c
    Fine, low porosity, med/high density
    BSL - going for mid back to waist

    HG: currently
    just washing with a low poo that contains protein (Alba Naturals Coconut) and using Suave Naturals Coconut as both a RO and LI. No stylers right now, but this gives me pretty good curl, definition, low-ish frizz, and it feels and looks good. Also an occasional PT (liking the Palmer's Coconut Oil Formula which has cones) seems to be key for me.

    Modified CG since February 2013

  • LauraimesLauraimes Posts: 880Registered Users
    It seemed to be really cheap for me. I paid €1.69 for 500 grams of flaxseeds. I don't have any additives yet, I figured it would be best to try it all natural before adjusting the recipe.

    What's BB?
    F - LP - HD - NE
    Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
    Hairtype 2c

    Low poo: Petal Fresh Organics Rosemary & Mint Volumizing Shampoo
    Protein: Colorful Neutral Protein Filler
    Detangler/RO: KCKT (winter) or Curl Junkie Beauticurls Argan & Olive Oil (summer)
    Styling: KCCC

    Beauty Is Not a Number
  • awelcomeawelcome Posts: 167Registered Users
    The botticelli botanicals one. I know the flax seeds were fairly cheap, but all the additives seemed to add up. I would try to make my own if I thought my hair liked it though.

    Another thing I wondered about/wanted to look more into was the curl junkie coffeecoco curling creme. It sounds like it might offer moisture and definition and work for some people as a one product type thing, but I haven't started looking into that one much yet.

    Right off the bat I saw it had polyquats which I am trying to avoid for a bit to see if it helps me.
    My Hair:
    2c
    Fine, low porosity, med/high density
    BSL - going for mid back to waist

    HG: currently
    just washing with a low poo that contains protein (Alba Naturals Coconut) and using Suave Naturals Coconut as both a RO and LI. No stylers right now, but this gives me pretty good curl, definition, low-ish frizz, and it feels and looks good. Also an occasional PT (liking the Palmer's Coconut Oil Formula which has cones) seems to be key for me.

    Modified CG since February 2013

  • LauraimesLauraimes Posts: 880Registered Users
    I have CJ CCCL, but I put it up on the swap board today because it doesn't work for me. It contains a lot of oils and they just sit in my hair because it is low porous, and the fact that my hair is fine leads to being weighed down. It does moisturise though. I'm a tad sad that it doesn't work for me because it smells delicious and I like the consistency.

    I know that some other people with the same properties do like it though. You might want to ask rapunzel4ever about her experiences with CJ CCCL.
    F - LP - HD - NE
    Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
    Hairtype 2c

    Low poo: Petal Fresh Organics Rosemary & Mint Volumizing Shampoo
    Protein: Colorful Neutral Protein Filler
    Detangler/RO: KCKT (winter) or Curl Junkie Beauticurls Argan & Olive Oil (summer)
    Styling: KCCC

    Beauty Is Not a Number
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    awelcome wrote: »
    The botticelli botanicals one. I know the flax seeds were fairly cheap, but all the additives seemed to add up. I would try to make my own if I thought my hair liked it though.

    I bought my okra gel from BB and got the large size, so with shipping I think it was $31?

    I just purchased all my supplies to make more batches, and if you keep it simple it's not much more.

    For her foolproof formula, she only adds grape seed oil (but you could use any oil you have on hand except coconut), agave nectar (you can get this at the grocery store), flax seeds or okra (grocery), thickener (I used xanthan gum which you can get at a health food store), and preservative- This is the one that's harder to get! Lotion crafters.com is where I got mine. They have a $12 minimum purchase and shipping was around $7. All in all, I think I spent around $30 to buy the things I didn't already have!
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
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