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RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
Thirty-two students...most of them girls...got in big trouble at school for "twerking" in a video...that booty shaking dance move. They were suspended, can't go to prom, and are banned from graduation ceremonies.

32 Students Suspended & Banned From Prom For "Twerking" Video (PHOTO) | Global Grind


Maybe it's just me, but this punishment seems disproportionately harsh, probably because it was girls being sexual, and we must crush sexual behavior in girls, at all costs.

Slut shaming at it's finest.
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    Crap...the video was banned from youtube. I saw it, and, while the song lyrics were really offensive, I didn't think the dancing was anything more than mildly obscene. You can catch news coverage of it with bits of the video on most sites, but not the actual video. Here's one:

    'Twerking' Video Gets Students Suspended | Twerking | Fox Nation
  • annabananaliseannabananalise Posts: 1,913Registered Users
    That's so stupid. They're prob jealous that those girls can twerk and they can't.

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    oop just watched the video tho. that's some weak twerking.
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  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 19,237Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    I didn't even know what twerk meant. Back to my cave.
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  • CurlyCurliesCurlyCurlies Posts: 1,641Registered Users
    That's a youtube fail for the kids. Maybe they'll think twice about what they decide to put out into the world in the future. It's one thing to twerk...in the mirror/@ a party/for your boyfriend/etc. It's something entirely different to do it on school grounds, with school property, & then broadcast it for the whole world to see.

    I know kids don't really think like this, but the punishment factor seems to go up when embarrassment is involved. And I'm not a teacher or a parent, but I hope to never be put in a position where I have to comment on my student's or child's twerking ability.
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  • cyndicyndi Posts: 3,341Registered Users
    All over the news here. I guess they broke a school rule, but the punishment does not fit the "crime" at all.
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  • sKorpio1190sKorpio1190 Posts: 1,862Registered Users
    Thirty-two students...most of them girls...got in big trouble at school for "twerking" in a video...that booty shaking dance move. They were suspended, can't go to prom, and are banned from graduation ceremonies.

    32 Students Suspended & Banned From Prom For "Twerking" Video (PHOTO) | Global Grind


    Maybe it's just me, but this punishment seems disproportionately harsh, probably because it was girls being sexual, and we must crush sexual behavior in girls, at all costs.

    Slut shaming at it's finest.

    They're in high school and they skipped a class to make a video of themselves shaking their asses. I think the punishment was appropriate. Tolerating crap like this is the problem in the first place
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  • Jess the MessJess the Mess Posts: 5,844Registered Users
    The suspension is fine IMO. They filmed on school grounds with school equipment. I think banning them from prom and graduation activities/ceremonies is waaaaay too harsh.

    I have to agree with RCW on this one. I don't think boys who made a similar video would be treated that way.
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  • medussamedussa Posts: 12,993Registered Users
    I didn't even know what twerk meant. Back to my cave.

    I didn't know it was called that until someone sent me a video of some actress/singer doing it.

    Surprise!
  • crimsonshedemoncrimsonshedemon Posts: 2,098Registered Users
    Banning them from prom and graduation is ridiculous. They should be punished for ditching class, using school property, etc, but this is crazy.
  • curlypearlcurlypearl Posts: 11,970Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Can anyone see this video? If they deserve to go to prom and be in the graduation ceremonies, I don't see what doing any type of dancing, however "obscene" has to do with it. Punishment not aligning with "crime."
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  • CGNYCCGNYC Posts: 4,937Registered Users
    It's tacky and vulgar but if they just HAD to do it, they should've done it on their own time, with their own phones, and left the school name out of it. They broke a bunch of rules. They can deal with the consequences.
  • sKorpio1190sKorpio1190 Posts: 1,862Registered Users
    CGNYC wrote: »
    It's tacky and vulgar but if they just HAD to do it, they should've done it on their own time, with their own phones, and left the school name out of it. They broke a bunch of rules. They can deal with the consequences.

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  • CurlyCanadianCurlyCanadian Posts: 10,771Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    I think in the grand scheme of things the punishment is not that big a deal (well, maybe graduation), but the lesson they'll take from this is huge.
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  • sKorpio1190sKorpio1190 Posts: 1,862Registered Users
    I think in the grand scheme of things the punishment is not that big a deal (well, maybe graduation), but the lesson they'll take from this is huge.

    +1
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  • PoPo Posts: 2,607Registered Users
    I agree with whoever said that a suspension would be appropriate. Banning them from prom and graduation is over the top. Especially graduation! The ceremony isn't for them; it's for their families.
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  • ursulaursula Posts: 1,461Registered Users
    Yeah, this is absurd. I agree that suspension is defensible, but I can't believe they were banned from prom and graduation for dancing (even if they did skip school and use school equipment to do it). Somehow I don't think the punishment would be the same if they had filmed themselves ballroom dancing!
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  • CurlyCanadianCurlyCanadian Posts: 10,771Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    ursula wrote: »
    Somehow I don't think the punishment would be the same if they had filmed themselves ballroom dancing!

    That's a really good point! Had they done a fun flash mob, or an acapella that went viral, the school would be praising there great students.
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  • JosephineJosephine Posts: 14,175Registered Users
    The suspension is fine IMO. They filmed on school grounds with school equipment. I think banning them from prom and graduation activities/ceremonies is waaaaay too harsh.

    I have to agree with RCW on this one. I don't think boys who made a similar video would be treated that way.

    I agree. Wasn't the twist and other dances considered scandalous too back in the day?
  • theliothelio Posts: 5,374Registered Users
    So that's twerking!!! If you need me, i will be in the cave with jeep.
  • murrrcatmurrrcat Posts: 9,596Registered Users
    That's hardcore twerking. And I thought people only did that twerking for laughs.

    We can blame Miley Cyrus for doing the *** in a unicorn suit, she deemed it appropriate to twerk your life away....all girls love her. (or maybe just I do)

    Miley cyrus - **** - YouTube



    They're being a bit dramatic.
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  • murrrcatmurrrcat Posts: 9,596Registered Users
    *** is a bad word?

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  • theliothelio Posts: 5,374Registered Users
    it can be. but not the way you used it.
  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    ursula wrote: »
    Somehow I don't think the punishment would be the same if they had filmed themselves ballroom dancing!



    Exactly. These students are being punished based on content, and the school needs to acknowledge that. If they had made an unauthorized video on school time with school equipment depicting ballroom dancing, or lip-synching to Call Me Maybe, there would have been very few repercussions. Also, I think they are being punished so severely because they are mostly girls. If boys had made this video, hardly anyone would have cared. But, because it was girls being sexual, we must stomp it out. This is slut-shaming. And this is part of our Culture of Rape. The school is getting away with it because a lot of people think "they deserve what they got". Sounds like rape culture to me.
  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 19,237Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    I've been thinking about this whole thing and just not sure how I feel about it all. The actual dance is ugly and vulgar and quite weird when done upside down against a wall (don't get it). That said, every generation has some stupid thing that they 'do'.

    I would be ashamed if any of these were my kids. But then, I notice that most girls go to the prom nowadays dressed like low class call girls so I'm guessing modern day parents don't really care about such things.

    I do see reason for some sort of punishment for using school equipment, school grounds, school time, to film this. I think some sort of community service would have been in order.

    Other than that, I would just like to bleach my eyes out from seeing the video. I find actual porn far less gross than that video.
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  • juanabjuanab Posts: 4,037Registered Users
    It cuts both ways.

    Harlem Shake Spoof Lands Titusville HS Baseball Team in hot water

    Most were later re-instated. Here is hoping that will happen in the twerking situation as well.

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  • CurlyCurliesCurlyCurlies Posts: 1,641Registered Users
    While I do agree that there is a double standard when it comes to sexualized dance moves, I don't think that is *all* that is going on here.

    1. There is a question of appropriateness. School is not (or shouldn't be) the time to display your bumping and grinding/booty popping skills. Period. You're there to learn and to socialize with peers. Sex & sexualized activity/dancing should be done on your own time.

    2. The school assumes responsibility for these students from the time they walk on the grounds/get on the school bus. It's a big deal admin. wise for those students to have been unaccounted for. If they had used that time to, IDK, have UNO tournament they would still likely be in trouble. (Not as much trouble...granted).

    I would feel differently if these were, say, college kids making a video. But college students are afforded a lot more freedom than their younger counterparts.
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  • medussamedussa Posts: 12,993Registered Users
    ursula wrote: »
    Somehow I don't think the punishment would be the same if they had filmed themselves ballroom dancing!

    If boys had made this video, hardly anyone would have cared.

    Hmmm, I wonder. I really didn't think I'd get any hits, but I googled "guys twerking," and apparently boys twerk too. :shock:

    Not sure if this is safe for work. Nothing is showing but oh my…
  • sKorpio1190sKorpio1190 Posts: 1,862Registered Users
    ursula wrote: »
    Yeah, this is absurd. I agree that suspension is defensible, but I can't believe they were banned from prom and graduation for dancing (even if they did skip school and use school equipment to do it). Somehow I don't think the punishment would be the same if they had filmed themselves ballroom dancing!

    Are you kidding me?? Ur gonna compare ballroom dancing to shaking ur ass in the air? U gotta be kidding me
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  • murrrcatmurrrcat Posts: 9,596Registered Users
    it's like zumba.
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  • mrspoppersmrspoppers Posts: 7,223Registered Users
    I read a couple other articles about this and I do think the punishment for the dancers was too extreme. My understanding is that the guy with the camera said he was making a video for a school class. He went into the 6th period journalism class and asked if anyone wanted to twerk for his school project. These kids said yes and left class.

    The dancers didn't ask more questions about how and where their dance video would be used, so everyone was surprised when the kid then added the explicit music and put the video on youtube. It was the combo of the dancing AND the music that put the video over the top.

    I think it's fairly safe to say the kid was authorized to use the camera. And it probably wasn't technically "cutting class" for the kids to participate. They put classes like journalism/media and yearbook at the end of the day because they're electives and kids are allowed to come and go to take pictures and such.

    In my opinion, the kid that made the video should have had a more severe punishment than the dancers. The dancers should be punished in some way but to take away both prom and graduation is too much. I'd take away prom and leave it at that. Or maybe have the kids do special projects about the sexual objectification of women in order to earn the right to graduation.
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