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Okra gel....it's THAT good!!!!

chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
I have waited 6 weeks for my okra gel ("Mudd") from Botticelli Botanicals on etsy (ridiculous wait time, I know). But, this stuff is soooo good!!!!!! I used it over my leave-in, and slathered a bunch on until it felt like seaweed. I topped with a little dab of HETT gel, because I didn't know how the hold would be. Omg, I can't say enough about how fabulous my hair looked and felt today!!!!! Clumps, volume, frizz reduction, hold....I had IT ALL. I did notice it took longer to dry, and I also had to SOTC, but I am thrilled!

For next time, I either need to figure out how to make this myself, or be sure to order it 6 weeks before I need it again. I'll be studying the recipe posts again!
2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
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  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    Yey, but without photos it didn't happen!
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    I'm really loving the okra gel these days, too. It's much easier to make then FSG because it's easier to strain.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • shellyRN07swavyshellyRN07swavy Posts: 309Registered Users
    I love the okra gel also!. I have made my own, but need to tweak the recipe some with the summer months in FL coming soon. UGH But I guess thats what makes it fun. When people ask what I use in my hair, I get to say my own gel!!!
    How cool is that!! :wav:
    I started with BB additives and Kathymacks recipe, which is an awesome starting point. I added some marshmallow root to mine, and had great slip which I loved. The hold is a little off and seeing if agave nectar or honeyquat is better for my hair. I’m also trying it with AVG and I bought some sucragel of Kathymack, which gives amazing shine to my hair. So the possibilities are endless.
    2b/c CG since 8/12
    I have low porosity and fine/med texture. Easily weighed down and VERY frizzy crown, with straighter under layers

    Low-poo:TJ TTT, CJ GCS
    LI/RO/DC: CK Satin Roots,Sevi Pumpkin, SSI Okra reconstructor, CJ SAC,CJ RM
    Stylers: AG Recoil, JC SS
    Jellies: CK Coil Jam, Okra gel(HG)
    Gel: JC CC, Ouidad H&H gel, Ouidad moisture lock gel

    Hair loves moisture:love3: protein.
    MUST Pixie diffuse.

    My hair dose NOT like oils, butters or polyquats:twisted: Or glycerin in high dews
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    I used it again today and had another amazing hair day! I can't believe how it holds up! I'm wondering how long this will last- I bought the 16 oz size and keep it in the fridge. But since I rotate products I only use it 1-2x a week. Should I freeze some?
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    chloe92us wrote: »
    I used it again today and had another amazing hair day! I can't believe how it holds up! I'm wondering how long this will last- I bought the 16 oz size and keep it in the fridge. But since I rotate products I only use it 1-2x a week. Should I freeze some?

    If it has preservative in it, you shouldn't have to freeze it.

    I make large batches and freeze it in four ounce portions--even though I do add preservative. I just feel better doing that. While it's my current favorite product, I only use it once in 5 days, if that. I "save" it for special occasions, so it's not always the fifth day.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • CurlsnswirlsCurlsnswirls Posts: 865Registered Users
    I don't refrigerate my Mudd either and I've had it for a very long time with no problems.
  • ECCurlyECCurly Posts: 285Registered Users
    Did you get the Foolproof or do a custom? My PJ is curious.

    Sent from my XT907 using CurlTalk App
    VERY fine 2B/3A hair
    Chin-length - growing it out...again.
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    I got the foolproof.
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    I'm bumping this because I'm just completely smitten with this stuff.

    I ordered all my supplies online this week to DIY some FSG and okra gel this weekend.

    Kathy- I hope you pop in on this....I am a little confused about the honeyquat. I ordered some, but I'm not sure if I use in instead of agave or in addition to it? What exactly does it do? I know it's a humectant but does it also help with hold?

    Here is what I have on hand/ ordered:
    Citric acid (used to reduce pH)
    Pottasium Sorbate (preservative)
    EcoMulse (emulsifier- not sure I'm going to need this...)
    Honeyquat (would I use this instead of Agave, or can I use both?)
    Xanthan Gum (thickener)
    Agave Nectar (for hold and shine)
    Marshmallow Root (for slip and thickener?)
    Grapeseed oil (it is mixed with Vit E oil)

    Wish me luck! If I can get some good results from my experimenting, I may have a very large amount of products on the swap board next week, lol. Just kidding! :laughing5:
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    Here's an old thread on honeyquat vs glycerin http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/4/105990-honeyquat-vs-glycerin.html If you read through, you'll get the idea. It's a replacement for other humectants you might use.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    Thanks. I have been avoiding glycerin, so may save the honeyquat for when the dews moderate again here (in November).

    For now, I think I'll just add:

    potassium sorbate
    citric acid
    agave
    xanthan gum
    grapeseed oil
    fragrance oil
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    chloe92us wrote: »
    Thanks. I have been avoiding glycerin, so may save the honeyquat for when the dews moderate again here (in November).

    For now, I think I'll just add:

    potassium sorbate
    citric acid
    agave
    xanthan gum
    grapeseed oil
    fragrance oil

    I'd add the honeyquat, instead of the agave, for the reasons in the thread I linked.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • BlackAngelPlayahBlackAngelPlayah Posts: 1,419Registered Users
    Why ain't no pictures?

    I speak English..

    Engrish is just more fun. :p
    :afro:FroZen:afro:
  • sonnysonny Posts: 467Registered Users
    Where is the okra recipe? I looked on the recipe forum but didnt see it.
    We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the vitriolic words and actions of the bad people, but for the appalling silence of the good people. ~.Martin Luther King Jr
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    sonny wrote: »
    Where is the okra recipe? I looked on the recipe forum but didnt see it.

    In the "okra gel, who's gone crazy" thread, there are some tips. But the same add ins can be used in FSG OR okra gel.

    Here's one that shows details about the amount of okra to water ratio, although I think I'm going to use 6 pieces and 2 cups of water.

    DIY Okra (Ochro) Hair Gel | caribbeancurls
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • shellyRN07swavyshellyRN07swavy Posts: 309Registered Users
    To me it seems like honeyquat is for adding moisture not really hold. I haven't tried to interchange agave nectar with honeyquat yet. I think ill experiment with it during "winter time"(that's a laugh living in FL) rather than summer here. I have made couple successful batches so far with recipe as follows 2 tblsp of Marshmallow root with 4c of distilled water and 1 full cup of horizontal sliced okra. Low boil for 30-40mins. This yield 2cups of okra gel. I then add kathymack' s portions for the preservatives and 1/4+1/8tsp of agave nectar, 1/4tsp mag flakes, 1/2 tsp of sucragel. Too chicken to try grapeseed oil..lol


    Sent from my SCH-I535 using CurlTalk App
    2b/c CG since 8/12
    I have low porosity and fine/med texture. Easily weighed down and VERY frizzy crown, with straighter under layers

    Low-poo:TJ TTT, CJ GCS
    LI/RO/DC: CK Satin Roots,Sevi Pumpkin, SSI Okra reconstructor, CJ SAC,CJ RM
    Stylers: AG Recoil, JC SS
    Jellies: CK Coil Jam, Okra gel(HG)
    Gel: JC CC, Ouidad H&H gel, Ouidad moisture lock gel

    Hair loves moisture:love3: protein.
    MUST Pixie diffuse.

    My hair dose NOT like oils, butters or polyquats:twisted: Or glycerin in high dews
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    Why ain't no pictures?
    :p

    You asked for it!

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    hair front 3 by chloe92us, on Flickr


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    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    OK now I am sorry I requested photos, I am officially green with envy at your beautiful curls right up to the roots.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    OK now I am sorry I requested photos, I am officially green with envy at your beautiful curls right up to the roots.

    Aww, thanks. I never had root curl this much until I cut it short! Here's my "before CG" pic for reference! Yuck! I can't believe I went out like this- it doesn't even look curly, just straight up frizzy.

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    And when it was longer, after CG, but still not much root curl...

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    And then after my first chop...root curl! (But before I found my HG...okra gel! Note frizz- this was before I SOTC. :))
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    And then the photos posted above from today....lots of root curl and chin length now.

    The only reason I had long hair was because my hair "turned" curly 7 years ago when I was pregnant and I had no idea how to care for it, so it was in a ponytail 24/7 for 6 years and longer = better ponytail. I always wore my hair short before I became pregnant. Now that I have a handle on things, I will keep it short because I feel it suits my personality and lifestyle better.
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    chloe92us wrote: »

    Aww, thanks. I never had root curl this much until I cut it short! Here's my "before CG" pic for reference! Yuck! I can't believe I went out like this- it doesn't even look curly, just straight up frizzy.

    The only reason I had long hair was because my hair "turned" curly 7 years ago when I was pregnant and I had no idea how to care for it, so it was in a ponytail 24/7 for 6 years and longer = better ponytail. I always wore my hair short before I became pregnant. Now that I have a handle on things, I will keep it short because I feel it suits my personality and lifestyle better.

    You are giving me hope, I am an ex-24/7 ponytail girl!
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    You are giving me hope, I am an ex-24/7 ponytail girl!

    I'm still trying to figure out where my "before" pic even came from! The only thing I can think is my BFF had been pressuring me to lose the pony, and I may have sent her a pic to show her what the alternative was, lol.

    My pony was with me all the time, from sleeping to formal events. :sad7:
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    chloe92us wrote: »
    You are giving me hope, I am an ex-24/7 ponytail girl!

    I'm still trying to figure out where my "before" pic even came from! The only thing I can think is my BFF had been pressuring me to lose the pony, and I may have sent her a pic to show her what the alternative was, lol.

    My pony was with me all the time, from sleeping to formal events. :sad7:

    I slept in and went out with my ponytail too! Only quit because my hair got so damaged, partly colour treating but partly brushing when wet into the ponytail. I had breaks all at the back where the band sat and around the face.

    I joined the Long Hair Community to get ideas on growing out healthy hair and realised I had to go cold turkey on the hair elastics. From there I saw the 'before and after CG' thread here on NC .... was like a lightbulb, people with 'straight' frizzy/ poufy hair just like ME!!

    Why did you give up your ponytail and love your curls?
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • shellyRN07swavyshellyRN07swavy Posts: 309Registered Users
    WOW!!!! I'm completely jealous!!!! Very AWESOME hair. Glad u r lovong the okra gel.

    Sent from my SCH-I535 using CurlTalk App
    2b/c CG since 8/12
    I have low porosity and fine/med texture. Easily weighed down and VERY frizzy crown, with straighter under layers

    Low-poo:TJ TTT, CJ GCS
    LI/RO/DC: CK Satin Roots,Sevi Pumpkin, SSI Okra reconstructor, CJ SAC,CJ RM
    Stylers: AG Recoil, JC SS
    Jellies: CK Coil Jam, Okra gel(HG)
    Gel: JC CC, Ouidad H&H gel, Ouidad moisture lock gel

    Hair loves moisture:love3: protein.
    MUST Pixie diffuse.

    My hair dose NOT like oils, butters or polyquats:twisted: Or glycerin in high dews
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    Why did you give up your ponytail and love your curls?

    I realized when I had to do a photo shoot for my business, that the pony looked completely unprofessional and i needed to step it up. I actually wore my hair down that day and it was the best I could do at the time (i had NO idea how to "do" my hair). That's when I started searching out how to take care of it. I guess this should be my "official" pre-CG photo, but the first one I posted is more dramatic, lol. Anyway, it was dry & damaged i had to pull all the crown hairs back in a clip. Here's that photo:

    8747219319_0b83d0aeb2_n.jpg
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • JessiebananaJessiebanana Posts: 940Banned Users
    chloe92us wrote: »
    Why did you give up your ponytail and love your curls?

    I finally realized when I had to do a photo shoot for my business, that I looked completely unprofessional and needed to step it up. I actually wore my hair down that day and it was the best I could do at the time (and was still horrible). That's when I started searching out how to take care of it. I guess this should be my "official" pre-CG photo, but the first one I posted is more dramatic, lol. Here's that photo:

    8747219319_0b83d0aeb2_n.jpg

    Uh...I like your hair in this photo. :scratch:
    3C/Fine to Medium/Low Porosity/High Density

    :love5:MoistureMoistureMoisture:love5:

    Low Poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo
    RO/DC: DB Pumpkin Seed Curl Moisturizing Conditioner
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: Queen Helene Sculpturing Gel & Glaze

    No Salts, No Waxes, No Butters, No Heavy Oils
    No ACV, No Saponified Oils, Protein Sensitive
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    Uh...I like your hair in this photo. :scratch:

    You're sweet- I think my instagram doctoring makes it look better than in it did in reality. Notice all the hair on my crown was pinned back because it was totally out of control!
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • Curly SaraCurly Sara Posts: 183Registered Users
    kathymack wrote: »
    chloe92us wrote: »
    I used it again today and had another amazing hair day! I can't believe how it holds up! I'm wondering how long this will last- I bought the 16 oz size and keep it in the fridge. But since I rotate products I only use it 1-2x a week. Should I freeze some?

    If it has preservative in it, you shouldn't have to freeze it.

    I make large batches and freeze it in four ounce portions--even though I do add preservative. I just feel better doing that. While it's my current favorite product, I only use it once in 5 days, if that. I "save" it for special occasions, so it's not always the fifth day.

    Im curiose!! How do you make okra gel and which preservstives do you add? And do you keep the gel in the refrigerater after making it?
    Hair type/properties:
    3c hair, high porosity, mediumdensity, low elasticity, fine hair.

    Curly hair routine/regime:
    Combine the modified cg-method (low poo) and a modified tightly curly method.
    -Condition and leave in: Aubrey Organics, Giovanni Barzilian keratin and argan oil
    -Sealer: shea butter, Argan, olive and coconutoil
    -Gel: homemade flaxseed gel, Kinky curly custard, Queen Helene Curl royal shaping creme.
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    Curly Sara wrote: »

    Im curiose!! How do you make okra gel and which preservstives do you add? And do you keep the gel in the refrigerater after making it?

    Here is how ShellyRN does it:
    " I have made couple successful batches so far with recipe as follows: 2 tblsp of Marshmallow root with 4c of distilled water and 1 full cup of horizontal sliced okra. Low boil for 30-40mins. This yield 2cups of okra gel. I then add kathymack' s portions for the preservatives and 1/4+1/8tsp of agave nectar, 1/4tsp mag flakes, 1/2 tsp of sucragel. Too chicken to try grapeseed oil..lol"

    A few of the preservatives you can use are potassium sorbate, Germall, or Optiphen available here:

    Preservatives - Lotioncrafter - Premium Ingredients for Personal Care Products

    I will keep most of mine in the fridge or freezer, but probably keep small portions out that I will be able to use up in a week or two.
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • CurlsnswirlsCurlsnswirls Posts: 865Registered Users
    chloe92us wrote: »
    Why ain't no pictures?
    :p

    You asked for it!

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    Wow, your hair is gorgeous!!
  • chupiechupie Posts: 5,270Registered Users Curl Neophyte
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