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Something seriously wrong with my hair!

I DON'T WANT TO GO TO A RELAXER FOR HELP AGAIN. But I don't know what else to do. So to start from the beginning, I wore weaves for about 2.5 years to grow it out. Once I was all natural I stopped. But my hair is so dry! I thought it was the weaves but my hair is literally irreversibly DRY. No matter what I do to it it's DRY. It rejects all product, I think even water! This is why I thought my hair was low porosity but when I run my fingers through a strand of hair, there is TONS of resistance! And it feels sort of squeaky, and DRY, and brittle and UGH. I put a strand into a glass of water and once I completely submerged the strand in water (using my finger) it sank. I tried the Aphogee Protein Treatment once, it didnt do anything of course (considering my hair rejects EVERYTHING.) I tried the DIY yogurt deep co, I tried the Egg/Mayo deep co, I tried drugstore/beauty supply deep co, I tried the roux porosity conditioner, i even tried the baking soda treatment and NOTHING WORKED. Why does my hair feels like this :( It should feel like cotton-so soft and luscious. But it just feels like straw! Even oils don't do a thing. Organic Olive Oil, Castor Oil, Coconut Oil, they dont do anything! I tried shea moisture anti-breakage deep co and curl enhancing smoothie and yet again, NO long term difference. My hair feels like crap and products like shea moisture conceal it for a few seconds and my hair is back to "normal." I deep co with a plastic cap and heat too! And I sleep with a satin bonnet! I've NEVER straightened my hair, so it cant be heat damage. I'm just about all natural (except a TINY bit on the ends) and like 21 months post relaxer. If my hair grew the way it should it should be about 10.5 inches long, but it's only about 6 inches long :( I'm really trying to grow my hair out, BUT I NEED TO GET IT HEALTHY FIRST. Any tips on how I do that? Thank you!

UPDATE: I have used the As I Am Coconut Cowash and deep conditioned with Coconut Oil and Honey (This was all I had that was moisturizing and not protein). And I sealed with Shea Moisture Curl Enhancing Smootie (There was still some coconut oil on my hair so I put the smoothie on top of that). My hair STILL had a LOT of resistance and had that plastic/squeaky feeling when I rubbed it! My hair dried really fast (or at least had that DRY feeling really fast) and I forget if that means I have High or Low Porosity. The Cowash detangled my hair but my Bentonite Clay Wash DEFINITELY defines and detangles much more! I'm going to continue with the Cowash once a week to see if anything changes and my moisture problem is solved. I still need a better deep conditioner and Leave-in though. Any more tips? Thank you!
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  • Nessa31787Nessa31787 Posts: 42Registered Users
    I don't know too much bc I'm still learning myself how to properly take care of my hair but I suffered from extreme dry hair too and I noticed the only things that seemed to help are steam treatments and cowashing. See if you can find a salon and get steam treatments done a few times and see if it helps any. That's what I did before I bought a steamer to do it at home and it made a huge difference. And I use As I Am cowash every 2-3 days and that has helped too.
  • NewlyNaturalGNewlyNaturalG Posts: 50Registered Users
    Nessa31787 wrote: »
    I don't know too much bc I'm still learning myself how to properly take care of my hair but I suffered from extreme dry hair too and I noticed the only things that seemed to help are steam treatments and cowashing. See if you can find a salon and get steam treatments done a few times and see if it helps any. That's what I did before I bought a steamer to do it at home and it made a huge difference. And I use As I Am cowash every 2-3 days and that has helped too.

    I use heat on my hair during deep conditioning and that doesn't do a thing so I'm not sure if I'll bother going to a salon for steam treatments. And co-washing I'm considering. I actually might get the coconut co-washing thing. Is that a good product?
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    What is your daily & weekly routine now?
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • Oats22Oats22 Posts: 48Registered Users
    What shampoo are you using? You should try using one that doesn't have any sulfates, and/or try conditioner washing your hair. Sulfates strip the hair--some people can use them without much issue, but if I use it, my hair feels brittle and hard and snaps.
    Last Relaxer: July 6th, 2012, approx 1:30pm.
    12 months/52.2 weeks/365 days transitioning!



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  • NewlyNaturalGNewlyNaturalG Posts: 50Registered Users
    chloe92us wrote: »
    What is your daily & weekly routine now?
    Oats22 wrote: »
    What shampoo are you using? You should try using one that doesn't have any sulfates, and/or try conditioner washing your hair. Sulfates strip the hair--some people can use them without much issue, but if I use it, my hair feels brittle and hard and snaps.

    Every two weeks I wash my hair with bentonite clay mixed with apple cider vinegar. Then I deep co using mayo,honey, and olive oil (i don't use egg anymore because it leaves stuff on my hair). then I moisturize with shea moisture curl enhancing smoothie and seal with coconut oil. Of course all of this is done in vein, considering none of it does anything. :/ And the problem is dryness AND just like idk the way my hair "naturally" feels. It feels like PLASTIC.
  • Oats22Oats22 Posts: 48Registered Users
    Have you tried the curly girl method? I'm not fully natural yet, over 9 months into transitioning, but the CG method has been great for both my natural hair and permed ends. I've heard that the CG method has brought some people's hair from being completely dry to soft and moisturized, and minimized breakage. People often try it out for 6 weeks (bc, the first couple weeks can tend to seem bad, but then it gets really good) to see if it'll work for them.
    Last Relaxer: July 6th, 2012, approx 1:30pm.
    12 months/52.2 weeks/365 days transitioning!



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    "Right now I'm wearing a 'Darn-I-Went-To-Bed-Without-A-Scarf' and later I'm gonna try a 'Salvage-This-And-Try-To-Look-Presentable.'"
  • NewlyNaturalGNewlyNaturalG Posts: 50Registered Users
    Oats22 wrote: »
    Have you tried the curly girl method? I'm not fully natural yet, over 9 months into transitioning, but the CG method has been great for both my natural hair and permed ends. I've heard that the CG method has brought some people's hair from being completely dry to soft and moisturized, and minimized breakage. People often try it out for 6 weeks (bc, the first couple weeks can tend to seem bad, but then it gets really good) to see if it'll work for them.
    Hmm what EXACTLY is the curly girl method? I'm a little confused. I thought it was when you don't use sulfate shampoos?
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users

    Every two weeks I wash my hair with bentonite clay mixed with apple cider vinegar. Then I deep co using mayo,honey, and olive oil (i don't use egg anymore because it leaves stuff on my hair). then I moisturize with shea moisture curl enhancing smoothie and seal with coconut oil.

    I would suggest you find a good full conditioner to use as a leave-in (shea moisture restorative, for example) and then seal it in with oil...under the smoothie. The smoothie isn't really designed to be a moisturizer, it's more of a styling product that can also provide moisture....

    I also just wanted to add that not all hair is soft naturally. If your texture is very coarse, it will probably never be soft like you want. Do you know your hair properties? Coarse hair doesn't bend easily and feels wiry, like a pubic hair (sorry for the comparison). My gray hairs are coarse and that's what they feel like. Part of the natural journey is accepting what you have been given and working with it as best you can.

    What do you do between washes? Are you not wetting your hair during this time at all? If so, 2 weeks is a long time for your hair to go without additional moisture (I must be missing something here, so I'm sorry if I sound dense!).
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • NewlyNaturalGNewlyNaturalG Posts: 50Registered Users
    chloe92us wrote: »

    Every two weeks I wash my hair with bentonite clay mixed with apple cider vinegar. Then I deep co using mayo,honey, and olive oil (i don't use egg anymore because it leaves stuff on my hair). then I moisturize with shea moisture curl enhancing smoothie and seal with coconut oil.

    I would suggest you find a good full conditioner to use as a leave-in (shea moisture restorative, for example) and then seal it in with oil...under the smoothie. The smoothie isn't really designed to be a moisturizer, it's more of a styling product that can also provide moisture....

    What do you do between washes? Are you not wetting your hair during this time at all? If so, 2 weeks is a long time for your hair to go without additional moisture (I must be missing something here, so I'm sorry if I sound dense!).
    But that's the thing, I cannot find a full conditioner because nothing works! My biggest problem is that my hair doesn't take products. I think once I can solve that problem life will be easier haha. And I don't moisturize too often between washes to be honest. But that's only because I know my hair won't change at all so I guess I lose motivation to moisturize my hair.
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    Nothing will work miracles with one use....it's all about consistently providing the moisture to your hair. I think you should try wetting it every few days, not washing, but massaging your scalp to remove build up, and "washing" with conditioner only. Then after you turn off the water, put more condish in, seal with oil, then add your smoothie.

    If you're so frustrated that you're considering going back to relaxers, it's worth a shot....right!!!!???? You have nothing to lose, and everything to gain.

    My hair would be drier than the Sahara if left to its own devices for 2 weeks!!! Of course, my scalp would be an oil slick, but that's another story.
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    Here's something to inspire you. CG is about eliminating sulfates and silicones (which you're already doing), but the main point to it is learning that conditioner is your best friend, you need to embrace your friend and have a visit every couple days!

    http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/general-discussion-about-curly-hair/47609-post-your-before-after-cg-pics.html
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • Nessa31787Nessa31787 Posts: 42Registered Users
    Nessa31787 wrote: »
    I don't know too much bc I'm still learning myself how to properly take care of my hair but I suffered from extreme dry hair too and I noticed the only things that seemed to help are steam treatments and cowashing. See if you can find a salon and get steam treatments done a few times and see if it helps any. That's what I did before I bought a steamer to do it at home and it made a huge difference. And I use As I Am cowash every 2-3 days and that has helped too.

    I use heat on my hair during deep conditioning and that doesn't do a thing so I'm not sure if I'll bother going to a salon for steam treatments. And co-washing I'm considering. I actually might get the coconut co-washing thing. Is that a good product?

    I think the coconut cowash works really good it doesn't have any sulfates or silicones and it helps prevent buildup in my hair between shampoos.

    And steamers are different from just applying heat when deep conditioning because it helps penetrate the hair shaft with water instead of dry heat. I know deep conditioners didn't do much for my hair when it was relaxed nor when I was natural with or without heat. It wasn't until I started getting steam treatments that I actually saw a difference with moisture in my hair. I mean its worth a shot seeing as how nothing else has seemed to work and salons typically charge between $20-$40 to get it done.

    I hope you find something that works because i know first hand how horrible dry hair can be. I was at my wits end quite a few times dealing with how brittle and rough my hair was that I too thought only going back to a relaxer would help me manage my hair and not leave it so dry, but I'm glad I didn't.

    Don't give up though I'm sure your solution is out there :)
  • Nessa31787Nessa31787 Posts: 42Registered Users
    chloe92us wrote: »
    Nothing will work miracles with one use....it's all about consistently providing the moisture to your hair. I think you should try wetting it every few days, not washing, but massaging your scalp to remove build up, and "washing" with conditioner only. Then after you turn off the water, put more condish in, seal with oil, then add your smoothie.

    If you're so frustrated that you're considering going back to relaxers, it's worth a shot....right!!!!???? You have nothing to lose, and everything to gain.

    My hair would be drier than the Sahara if left to its own devices for 2 weeks!!! Of course, my scalp would be an oil slick, but that's another story.

    That's so true when I would go longer than a few days without doing anything to my hair it would be murder lol! Great point!
  • LuuuuucyLuuuuucy Posts: 146Registered Users
    I agree with the others. If you're not wetting and adding moisture in that two week time frame, your hair is going to be very unhappy. Also, what you're deep conditioning with is more than just conditioner- it's a protein treatment. My hair doesn't love a lot of protein treatments, I only use them when I absolutely need to, if my hair seems really really limp. If your hair is dry and coarse, it could be protein sensitive- and it sounds like you're using lots of protein and not enough straight up conditioning moisture to counteract it.

    When I first started the cg method, I was having to wet my hair daily, and it was a little (okay, a lot) cumbersome BUT there was a major difference in the moisture level of my hair. It was softer, smoother, and I had a lot less tangles. My hair didn't seem as "angry" and unmanageable as I'd always thought it was.

    If it was me, I would start off with a serious deep conditioning treatment- something overnight or at least a half hour with heat- then I'd cowash daily or at least every other day for a week or two and see how you're doing.
    Curly work in progress
    2C with some 3A if all the stars align
    Low porosity, medium to low density and fine
    No sulfates since 2009
    CG since 2013

    In my stash:
    Shampoos and conditioners- Tresemme Naturals Low Poo, Tresemme Naturals Moisturizing Aloe, Suave Naturals Coconut
    Leave Ins- Kinky Curly Knot Today
    Stylers- KCCC, AG Recoil, KY Lubricant (yup), SM Curl Milk
    Gels- Ecostyler, Biosilk RHG
    Mousse- Devacurl Uplifting Foam, Suave Captivating Curls
  • NewlyNaturalGNewlyNaturalG Posts: 50Registered Users
    chloe92us wrote: »
    Nothing will work miracles with one use....it's all about consistently providing the moisture to your hair. I think you should try wetting it every few days, not washing, but massaging your scalp to remove build up, and "washing" with conditioner only. Then after you turn off the water, put more condish in, seal with oil, then add your smoothie.

    If you're so frustrated that you're considering going back to relaxers, it's worth a shot....right!!!!???? You have nothing to lose, and everything to gain.

    My hair would be drier than the Sahara if left to its own devices for 2 weeks!!! Of course, my scalp would be an oil slick, but that's another story.
    chloe92us wrote: »
    Here's something to inspire you. CG is about eliminating sulfates and silicones (which you're already doing), but the main point to it is learning that conditioner is your best friend, you need to embrace your friend and have a visit every couple days!

    http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/general-discussion-about-curly-hair/47609-post-your-before-after-cg-pics.html
    You're right. I've never been consist with my hare care. I think it was because I sort of gave up. But what do I have to lose? I think I'll try the co-washing only method and stop using bentonite clay [for my hair]. I'm thinking of my "shampoo" being the I am Me Coconut Cowash. And I'm thinking of trying the Aussie Moist 3-minute miracle because I've really only heard good things about it. However I'm not sure if the ingredients are healthy for my hair, I'll have to check first. I think I should get a leave-in conditioner too, I have no idea which one though. I'm also thinking of trying hairfinity pills because my diet is also very bad and I know I'm not getting the vitamins and nutrients needed for healthy hair.
  • NewlyNaturalGNewlyNaturalG Posts: 50Registered Users
    Nessa31787 wrote: »
    Nessa31787 wrote: »
    I don't know too much bc I'm still learning myself how to properly take care of my hair but I suffered from extreme dry hair too and I noticed the only things that seemed to help are steam treatments and cowashing. See if you can find a salon and get steam treatments done a few times and see if it helps any. That's what I did before I bought a steamer to do it at home and it made a huge difference. And I use As I Am cowash every 2-3 days and that has helped too.

    I use heat on my hair during deep conditioning and that doesn't do a thing so I'm not sure if I'll bother going to a salon for steam treatments. And co-washing I'm considering. I actually might get the coconut co-washing thing. Is that a good product?

    I think the coconut cowash works really good it doesn't have any sulfates or silicones and it helps prevent buildup in my hair between shampoos.

    And steamers are different from just applying heat when deep conditioning because it helps penetrate the hair shaft with water instead of dry heat. I know deep conditioners didn't do much for my hair when it was relaxed nor when I was natural with or without heat. It wasn't until I started getting steam treatments that I actually saw a difference with moisture in my hair. I mean its worth a shot seeing as how nothing else has seemed to work and salons typically charge between $20-$40 to get it done.

    I hope you find something that works because i know first hand how horrible dry hair can be. I was at my wits end quite a few times dealing with how brittle and rough my hair was that I too thought only going back to a relaxer would help me manage my hair and not leave it so dry, but I'm glad I didn't.

    Don't give up though I'm sure your solution is out there :)
    I wanted to save up for a Heautiful Hair Steamer but I found my dryer and thought that'd be okay. And after a few weeks of trying this CG method I'll see if I still need the professional help. I still might get a steamer of my own though. Thank you! I also heard hairfinity pills do wonders for some peoples hair so I'm considering that too!
  • NewlyNaturalGNewlyNaturalG Posts: 50Registered Users
    Luuuuucy wrote: »
    I agree with the others. If you're not wetting and adding moisture in that two week time frame, your hair is going to be very unhappy. Also, what you're deep conditioning with is more than just conditioner- it's a protein treatment. My hair doesn't love a lot of protein treatments, I only use them when I absolutely need to, if my hair seems really really limp. If your hair is dry and coarse, it could be protein sensitive- and it sounds like you're using lots of protein and not enough straight up conditioning moisture to counteract it.

    When I first started the cg method, I was having to wet my hair daily, and it was a little (okay, a lot) cumbersome BUT there was a major difference in the moisture level of my hair. It was softer, smoother, and I had a lot less tangles. My hair didn't seem as "angry" and unmanageable as I'd always thought it was.

    If it was me, I would start off with a serious deep conditioning treatment- something overnight or at least a half hour with heat- then I'd cowash daily or at least every other day for a week or two and see how you're doing.
    I have 4b-4c hair so I don't think cowashing EVERY day is the best idea for my type. That's why I do it once every two weeks. So I don't know are you saying I should soak my hair in just plain old water and it'll get better?
    And my hair doesn't accept deep conditioning treatments so I would know a product I could use to give my hair a serious deep treatment :/
  • LuuuuucyLuuuuucy Posts: 146Registered Users
    Well, no, I'm not saying that just plain water soaking would help. Why do you think cowashing daily would be bad on your hair exactly? If you have dry coarse hair, it needs more moisture. To do that, you're going to need to condition it a lot more often than its currently getting. I have low porosity hair that is resistant to deep conditioning too, but I've found that the daily lighter conditioning helps it, as does steam deep conditioning. I don't have a steamer, but I wrap a hot, wet towel around it for about thirty minutes.

    Basically the bottom line is with your hair being dry and unmanageable, it needs more moisture and it just sounds like your current routine isn't giving it quite the moisture it needs. Hair loses moisture, so a daily cowash (which is just a daily condition basically) would help dramatically.
    Curly work in progress
    2C with some 3A if all the stars align
    Low porosity, medium to low density and fine
    No sulfates since 2009
    CG since 2013

    In my stash:
    Shampoos and conditioners- Tresemme Naturals Low Poo, Tresemme Naturals Moisturizing Aloe, Suave Naturals Coconut
    Leave Ins- Kinky Curly Knot Today
    Stylers- KCCC, AG Recoil, KY Lubricant (yup), SM Curl Milk
    Gels- Ecostyler, Biosilk RHG
    Mousse- Devacurl Uplifting Foam, Suave Captivating Curls
  • LuuuuucyLuuuuucy Posts: 146Registered Users
    As for deep treatments, with dry hair, have you tried any oils? An overnight olive oil, coconut oil, or avocado oil treatment might be just what your hair wants, rather than protein.
    Curly work in progress
    2C with some 3A if all the stars align
    Low porosity, medium to low density and fine
    No sulfates since 2009
    CG since 2013

    In my stash:
    Shampoos and conditioners- Tresemme Naturals Low Poo, Tresemme Naturals Moisturizing Aloe, Suave Naturals Coconut
    Leave Ins- Kinky Curly Knot Today
    Stylers- KCCC, AG Recoil, KY Lubricant (yup), SM Curl Milk
    Gels- Ecostyler, Biosilk RHG
    Mousse- Devacurl Uplifting Foam, Suave Captivating Curls
  • Nessa31787Nessa31787 Posts: 42Registered Users
    Nessa31787 wrote: »

    I use heat on my hair during deep conditioning and that doesn't do a thing so I'm not sure if I'll bother going to a salon for steam treatments. And co-washing I'm considering. I actually might get the coconut co-washing thing. Is that a good product?

    I think the coconut cowash works really good it doesn't have any sulfates or silicones and it helps prevent buildup in my hair between shampoos.

    And steamers are different from just applying heat when deep conditioning because it helps penetrate the hair shaft with water instead of dry heat. I know deep conditioners didn't do much for my hair when it was relaxed nor when I was natural with or without heat. It wasn't until I started getting steam treatments that I actually saw a difference with moisture in my hair. I mean its worth a shot seeing as how nothing else has seemed to work and salons typically charge between $20-$40 to get it done.

    I hope you find something that works because i know first hand how horrible dry hair can be. I was at my wits end quite a few times dealing with how brittle and rough my hair was that I too thought only going back to a relaxer would help me manage my hair and not leave it so dry, but I'm glad I didn't.

    Don't give up though I'm sure your solution is out there :)
    I wanted to save up for a Heautiful Hair Steamer but I found my dryer and thought that'd be okay. And after a few weeks of trying this CG method I'll see if I still need the professional help. I still might get a steamer of my own though. Thank you! I also heard hairfinity pills do wonders for some peoples hair so I'm considering that too!

    Yea hair pills do work. I was taking nutralite for hair skin and nails and they did help my hair grow faster. Biotin supplements work too if you want to go a generic route. And there are homemade ways you can do steam treatments here's a link if you want to experiment.

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.curlynikki.com%2F2012%2F08%2Fhow-to-steam-natural-hair-without.html%3Fm%3D1" class="Popup
  • NewlyNaturalGNewlyNaturalG Posts: 50Registered Users
    Luuuuucy wrote: »
    Well, no, I'm not saying that just plain water soaking would help. Why do you think cowashing daily would be bad on your hair exactly? If you have dry coarse hair, it needs more moisture. To do that, you're going to need to condition it a lot more often than its currently getting. I have low porosity hair that is resistant to deep conditioning too, but I've found that the daily lighter conditioning helps it, as does steam deep conditioning. I don't have a steamer, but I wrap a hot, wet towel around it for about thirty minutes.

    Basically the bottom line is with your hair being dry and unmanageable, it needs more moisture and it just sounds like your current routine isn't giving it quite the moisture it needs. Hair loses moisture, so a daily cowash (which is just a daily condition basically) would help dramatically.
    Luuuuucy wrote: »
    As for deep treatments, with dry hair, have you tried any oils? An overnight olive oil, coconut oil, or avocado oil treatment might be just what your hair wants, rather than protein.
    Co washing is also suppose to cleanse the hair from dirt and build up as well, right? But because my 4b-4c hair doesn't build up as quickly as say a 2a-2b head of hair would, co-washing might get rid of the natural oils I need instead. And oils don't work for me really, My hair rejects everything it seems. Do you think daily co-washing will make my hair not feel like plastic and will help it receive product? I'm still not sure if I even have low porosity hair because my hair does sink when I completely submerge it in water. However, I do notice that there are like bubbles that form around my hair strand. I'm not too sure what that means. I heard that happens in low porosity hair. Also, what co-washing product would you recommend?
  • NewlyNaturalGNewlyNaturalG Posts: 50Registered Users
    Nessa31787 wrote: »
    Yea hair pills do work. I was taking nutralite for hair skin and nails and they did help my hair grow faster. Biotin supplements work too if you want to go a generic route. And there are homemade ways you can do steam treatments here's a link if you want to experiment.

    How To Steam Natural Hair Without a Steamer | Curly Nikki | Natural Hair Styles and Natural Hair Care
    Hmm have you tried hairfinity pills? I'm really considering those.
  • LuuuuucyLuuuuucy Posts: 146Registered Users
    Cowashing will remove dirt but it won't strip the natural oils. That's really the whole point. You don't have to scrub the roots, but you need more moisture and a daily condition will help that.

    All I'm saying is that with dry hair, you're going to add more moisture than once very few weeks, and in addition, you are cruelly not using conditioner of any kind right now, you're just using a protein treatment. You need a lot of moisture to balance it out, that's actually working against you and making it worse.

    I've not tried hairfinity, but I personally would try a few simple measures to add moisture before the expense of the pills. It really sounds from your description and your routine that your hair is just very dry.
    Curly work in progress
    2C with some 3A if all the stars align
    Low porosity, medium to low density and fine
    No sulfates since 2009
    CG since 2013

    In my stash:
    Shampoos and conditioners- Tresemme Naturals Low Poo, Tresemme Naturals Moisturizing Aloe, Suave Naturals Coconut
    Leave Ins- Kinky Curly Knot Today
    Stylers- KCCC, AG Recoil, KY Lubricant (yup), SM Curl Milk
    Gels- Ecostyler, Biosilk RHG
    Mousse- Devacurl Uplifting Foam, Suave Captivating Curls
  • Nessa31787Nessa31787 Posts: 42Registered Users
    Nessa31787 wrote: »
    Yea hair pills do work. I was taking nutralite for hair skin and nails and they did help my hair grow faster. Biotin supplements work too if you want to go a generic route. And there are homemade ways you can do steam treatments here's a link if you want to experiment.

    How To Steam Natural Hair Without a Steamer | Curly Nikki | Natural Hair Styles and Natural Hair Care
    Hmm have you tried hairfinity pills? I'm really considering those.

    No I haven't tried the hairfinity but I read pretty good reviews.
  • NewlyNaturalGNewlyNaturalG Posts: 50Registered Users
    Luuuuucy wrote: »
    Cowashing will remove dirt but it won't strip the natural oils. That's really the whole point. You don't have to scrub the roots, but you need more moisture and a daily condition will help that.

    All I'm saying is that with dry hair, you're going to add more moisture than once very few weeks, and in addition, you are cruelly not using conditioner of any kind right now, you're just using a protein treatment. You need a lot of moisture to balance it out, that's actually working against you and making it worse.

    I've not tried hairfinity, but I personally would try a few simple measures to add moisture before the expense of the pills. It really sounds from your description and your routine that your hair is just very dry.
    So dryness could cause my hair hair to have that squeaky feeling too? As well as a lot of resistance and my hair not being able to accept product?
  • LuuuuucyLuuuuucy Posts: 146Registered Users
    When you say it doesn't accept product, what do you mean? Have you messed around with a lot of different ways, ie, soaking wet, damp, changing the types f products you use?
    As for not accepting treatments, lots of hair doesn't like oil so that doesn't surprise me. I can only use a few drops of a handful of oils- my hair rejects most of them.
    And like someone said earlier, I see results you're going to have to really use a routine repeatedly. I didn't notice a difference until I had been conditioning almost daily and deep conditioning twice a week for about a month. Then my hair calmed down.
    No matter what your hair type, your current routine just doesn't sound like its getting enough (or any) moisture. It's getting protein, but not good moisture. Even if your hair isn't protein sensitive, without a good moisture balance, it's going to eventually build up and make your hair a little angry.
    Curly work in progress
    2C with some 3A if all the stars align
    Low porosity, medium to low density and fine
    No sulfates since 2009
    CG since 2013

    In my stash:
    Shampoos and conditioners- Tresemme Naturals Low Poo, Tresemme Naturals Moisturizing Aloe, Suave Naturals Coconut
    Leave Ins- Kinky Curly Knot Today
    Stylers- KCCC, AG Recoil, KY Lubricant (yup), SM Curl Milk
    Gels- Ecostyler, Biosilk RHG
    Mousse- Devacurl Uplifting Foam, Suave Captivating Curls
  • NewlyNaturalGNewlyNaturalG Posts: 50Registered Users
    Luuuuucy wrote: »
    When you say it doesn't accept product, what do you mean? Have you messed around with a lot of different ways, ie, soaking wet, damp, changing the types f products you use?
    As for not accepting treatments, lots of hair doesn't like oil so that doesn't surprise me. I can only use a few drops of a handful of oils- my hair rejects most of them.
    And like someone said earlier, I see results you're going to have to really use a routine repeatedly. I didn't notice a difference until I had been conditioning almost daily and deep conditioning twice a week for about a month. Then my hair calmed down.
    No matter what your hair type, your current routine just doesn't sound like its getting enough (or any) moisture. It's getting protein, but not good moisture. Even if your hair isn't protein sensitive, without a good moisture balance, it's going to eventually build up and make your hair a little angry.
    Like, nothing works on my hair. Product don't really work. I'm going to use the CG method for a month and hopefully I'll see results. I'm going to cowash with As I Am Coconut Cowash. I will also deep condition with Aussie's 3 minute miracle. I've never used these products but I've heard good things about them though I'm pretty sure they contain bad things like silicons and such.
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    3 min miracle has silicone, so if you're going to Sally's to get the as I am cowash, get GVP Conditioning Balm instead.
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • LuuuuucyLuuuuucy Posts: 146Registered Users
    Yeah, report back! I think you'll see a big improvement after cowashing and deep conditioning at least weekly. I second GVP balm over the Aussie. I used it last night overnight and it's my new fave!
    Curly work in progress
    2C with some 3A if all the stars align
    Low porosity, medium to low density and fine
    No sulfates since 2009
    CG since 2013

    In my stash:
    Shampoos and conditioners- Tresemme Naturals Low Poo, Tresemme Naturals Moisturizing Aloe, Suave Naturals Coconut
    Leave Ins- Kinky Curly Knot Today
    Stylers- KCCC, AG Recoil, KY Lubricant (yup), SM Curl Milk
    Gels- Ecostyler, Biosilk RHG
    Mousse- Devacurl Uplifting Foam, Suave Captivating Curls
  • anonymous_133347anonymous_133347 Posts: 1,426Registered Users
    NewlyNatural, I think going CG is your best route. My hair was the driest thing ever before going CG. Also helpful might be this video series:

    ♡♡♡Structure of Hair - Part 1 The Basics - YouTube

    ♡♡♡Structure of Hair Part 2 - pH Balance Basics - YouTube

    ♡♡♡Structure of Hair Part 3 -Are you taking your hair on a pH roller coaster ride? - YouTube

    ♡♡♡Structure of Hair Part 4 - Using pH Balance Properly for Hair-Care - YouTube

    Which I stumbled on early in my CG journey and really enlightened me. (I love me some science.) It might sound funny but I do check the PH balance of my products (also the ingredients to ensure they're sulfate/silicone free) and as such my hair has been very predictable. Also, if you haven't checked out livecurlylivefree and read everything on the site yet I recommend it. The key to getting the hang of your hair is reading as much as you can:

    Live Curly Live Free - Home


    You could send your hair in for an analysis if you want to be certain of your properties. I did and it helped. It turns out I have coarse hair which was a surprise. I assumed I was medium texture. But it makes sense. I always have to be one step ahead of my hair to keep it moisturized. The arid climate does not help. So what I do is I co-wash every other day or every third day. Depends on my exercise schedule but usually it's on day on, one day off. (You can definitely go longer between co-washes. I realize we have completely different curl patterns but if you're coarse. . .) Once a week I use a low poo on the scalp and I go with Shea Moisture products there bc they're the gentlest shampoos you can find. (Oh and As I am coconut Co-wash is amazing though. I highly recommend that.) Before I wash I tend to glide some oil over my curls to protect them. I recommend coconut or avocado oil for this. Olive is great too though. Also, you probably need to add moisture into your hair daily if not every other day. Every day when I wake up I wet my hair with a bit of water and smooth on some leave in conditioner in order to refresh. That keeps my hair hydrated and these days I'm good to go. Speaking of hydration, the hair vitamins and pills are probably great, but be sure you're getting enough water. 8 servings of at least 8 ounces a day. I second FSG as a natural styling product to keep your curls defined and your hair hydrated. Here is a fabulous video I found on that recently:

    FLAX SEED GEL - Increase The Hold, Shine and Shelf Life - YouTube

    Best of luck! I know it's a lot of information.
    3A - C, HP, ME, HD. (Coarse, High Porosity, Medium Elasticity, High Density.)

    CG since Nov. 2012

    Poos: SM Moisture Retention + Yucca Baobab, TJ's Tea Tree Tingle
    Condish: TJ 'sTea Tree Tingle*, SM Moisture Retention* + Curl & Shine + Yucca Baobab, Yes to Blueberries
    Stylers: KCKT*, SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie* + Curl & Style Milk*, KCCC*, FSG*, CJ Pattern Pusha, Curl Keeper
    Sealers: Jojoba* or Grapeseed* oil

    * = HG

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