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Shea Moisture Question

It is that time of year for me to begin my big year purchase. I often use my taxes and make a big purchase from Curl Mart and other places to hopefully last me the entire year.

With that being said, I love CJ but it is expensive. I have never tried SM products, but I'm very curious about them after reading some CJ reviews.

My problem is that my hair Coconut Oil sensitive. It LOVES it as a treatment, but on everyday p[products it will make my hair too stringy, greasy, or the wet look. (Although the curling is to die for.) Regardless I can't go to work with hair that looks greasy and dirty.

Are SM products heavy with the Coconut Oil? Should I try it or save myself the trouble?
CG Since 2010
Hair Attributes: Mixed 2 with 3A undergrowth & no root curl.
Fine, Thin, Easily Manipulated, Easily Styled, Easy to Frizz, and Easy to damage.

Favorites: CJ Daily Fix, CJ Rehab, Anything Spiral Solutions, Darcy Botanicals Pumpkin Seed

New Goals To restore my hair after dying it twice in two weeks. Learning more about products found in the stores to fit my tight budget. I'm still working on trying to grow out my hair.

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  • sheilacurlsheilacurl Posts: 1,240Registered Users
    MY hair is fine and thin too! I rotate the SheaMoisture Moisture Retention Shampoo into my routine a couple times a week. I bought it based on all of the rave reviews. I still can't decide if it's too heavy for my hair or not. I guess I should pair it with a lighter conditioner instead of the CJ ones that I have. It's definitely not stripping though, that's partly why I can't decide if it's for me. My scalp still feels a little oily after I use it.

    I've had a few not-so-great experiences with the Soufflé but I guess it's a lot like KCCC, as in it's a finicky product and it's very easy to over do it.

    Now would be a great time to try that line of products as they are Buy 1 get one 50% off at CVS and Walgreens. If you don't like them, just return them for a refund or exchange them for a different one :D
    Upper Michigan Dews
    3a ~ Fine ~ High Porosity ~ Normal Density

    NoPoo: JC Cleansing Cream
    Rinse Outs: SS:PRT, CJ Repair Me, CJ Argan
    Detangler: KCKT
    Leave-in: CJ Repair me
    Stylers: UFDCM, BRHG
    Refreshers: Batiste (dry shampoo) on the roots & UFDCM everywhere else

    iHerb Discount Code: SAF007

  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    I normally use really rich products. I think the SM Coconut & Hibiscus products are heavy rather than rich, if you get the difference. It sits on my hair. You could try some of the other lines they have. After I tried a few products, I was done--no interest in trying others.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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  • anonymous_133347anonymous_133347 Posts: 1,426Registered Users
    If you're going to experiment with Shea Moisture and your hair is finicky with coconut oil I wouldn't recommend buying it online. (Does curlmart sell it? :scratch:) Get it from Walgreens so you can return it if your hair doesn't like it. And maybe get one of the kits I think they have. I'm pretty sure coconut oil is in virtually every product. Yucca line, moisture retention, and of course coconut & hibiscus. And I'm a Shea Moisture addict so I'd know. It's usually one the first five to ten ingredients listed too so it's high up on the formulation. That said, maybe your hair will surprise you.
    3A - C, HP, ME, HD. (Coarse, High Porosity, Medium Elasticity, High Density.)

    CG since Nov. 2012

    Poos: SM Moisture Retention + Yucca Baobab, TJ's Tea Tree Tingle
    Condish: TJ 'sTea Tree Tingle*, SM Moisture Retention* + Curl & Shine + Yucca Baobab, Yes to Blueberries
    Stylers: KCKT*, SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie* + Curl & Style Milk*, KCCC*, FSG*, CJ Pattern Pusha, Curl Keeper
    Sealers: Jojoba* or Grapeseed* oil

    * = HG

  • deja_vudeja_vu Posts: 30Registered Users
    I only use the black line, especially the purification mask and the spritz. The shampoo and conditioner does nothing for me. My hair is finicky with coconut oil, too, and shea butter so i can only use products for treatments or washing.

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  • anonymous_133347anonymous_133347 Posts: 1,426Registered Users
    Oh right. The black line. Hmm. I don't use that one because of the salicylic acid. Honestly why is that in there? I know people with dry scalp often go to use that line. Talk about contraindications.
    3A - C, HP, ME, HD. (Coarse, High Porosity, Medium Elasticity, High Density.)

    CG since Nov. 2012

    Poos: SM Moisture Retention + Yucca Baobab, TJ's Tea Tree Tingle
    Condish: TJ 'sTea Tree Tingle*, SM Moisture Retention* + Curl & Shine + Yucca Baobab, Yes to Blueberries
    Stylers: KCKT*, SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie* + Curl & Style Milk*, KCCC*, FSG*, CJ Pattern Pusha, Curl Keeper
    Sealers: Jojoba* or Grapeseed* oil

    * = HG

  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    I have the smoothie, the curl hold & shine spray (use quite a bit as a refresher) and also use one of the baby head to toe washes as a low poo (LOVE!). The smoothie makes my hair feel producty, like coated and kind of tangly? I used it in the beginning and my hair really did LOOK good with it, I just didn't like the way it felt.

    However, I LOVE their ingredients lists, and the smells of all of their stuff so I am determined to keep trying.

    Has anyone used the products designed for FINE HAIR? I believe they have the dark green label? I am so tempted to try them.
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • DepressedCurlsDepressedCurls Posts: 836Registered Users
    dusalocks wrote: »
    Oh right. The black line. Hmm. I don't use that one because of the salicylic acid. Honestly why is that in there? I know people with dry scalp often go to use that line. Talk about contraindications.

    The black line also targets psoriasis, which salicylic acid supposedly helps. But it didn't help me at all. Just a good mask as a detangler and conditioner and good shampoo, not so much for scalp issues. I love the yucca as well. The milk is a nice light leave in if you're hesitant the coconut and hibiscus one will be too heavy. I love the coconut and hibiscus one though, more moisturizing and smells better in my opinion. I think you should buy a kit and atleast try it.

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  • juanabjuanab Posts: 4,037Registered Users
    Salicylic acid in this instance is to help with dandruff. It has been very effective for me in combating my dandruff.

    texture - medium/fine, porosity - low/normal, elasticity - normal
    co-wash - NaturelleGrow Coconut Water or Marshmallow Root, Slippery Elm Bark & Blue Malva Cleansing Conditioners
    LI - KCKT mixed w/ SM C & H Curl & Style Milk
    DC - NG Mango & Coconut H2O or Chamomile/Brdck Root
    Gel - SM souffle (winter), KCCC (summer) or CR Naturals Aloe Whipped Butter Gel (year round)
    Sealers - Virgin Coconut Oil, Avocado butter, Aloe butter
    Ayurvedic treatments - Jamila Henna, Sukesh, Aloe Vera Powder, Hibiscus Powder
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  • anonymous_133347anonymous_133347 Posts: 1,426Registered Users
    Yes but dandruff and dry scalp are two different things and sometimes people mistake one for the other. Also not to go off on tangent but my brother had a case of acne when he was in high school. I did a lot of research into the subject at the time because common drugstore products designed for acne, most of which contain salicylic acid, tended to make the problem much worse. It would dry out his skin causing more oil to rise to the surface causing more breakouts. That's why it's an iffy ingredient for me and I wish it wasn't in there so I could try that line too. As someone whose skin is relatively normal but always on the dry side, for me the key to preventing dry skin (and I guess this would extend to my scalp too) has always been a bit of oil and moisture.
    3A - C, HP, ME, HD. (Coarse, High Porosity, Medium Elasticity, High Density.)

    CG since Nov. 2012

    Poos: SM Moisture Retention + Yucca Baobab, TJ's Tea Tree Tingle
    Condish: TJ 'sTea Tree Tingle*, SM Moisture Retention* + Curl & Shine + Yucca Baobab, Yes to Blueberries
    Stylers: KCKT*, SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie* + Curl & Style Milk*, KCCC*, FSG*, CJ Pattern Pusha, Curl Keeper
    Sealers: Jojoba* or Grapeseed* oil

    * = HG

  • anonymous_133347anonymous_133347 Posts: 1,426Registered Users
    chloe92us wrote: »

    Has anyone used the products designed for FINE HAIR? I believe they have the dark green label? I am so tempted to try them.

    I have the shampoo and conditioner from this line and really like both. I love the smell actually. I find the shampoo more cleansing than the moisture retention one and both products rather volumizing. They also don't dry me out even though I'm coarse haired because even though they contain vegetable protein they leave the hair very soft and frizz free. I use the shampoo once every two weeks, the conditioner once a week. My friend uses the milk. She has fine hair and it gives her angled bob instant body. Oh and I got my mother the milk as well and it can make her hair which starts out feeling like hay when she neglects it turn to silk. I don't think it does much for curl enhancement though like the Coconut & Hibiscus styling products.
    3A - C, HP, ME, HD. (Coarse, High Porosity, Medium Elasticity, High Density.)

    CG since Nov. 2012

    Poos: SM Moisture Retention + Yucca Baobab, TJ's Tea Tree Tingle
    Condish: TJ 'sTea Tree Tingle*, SM Moisture Retention* + Curl & Shine + Yucca Baobab, Yes to Blueberries
    Stylers: KCKT*, SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie* + Curl & Style Milk*, KCCC*, FSG*, CJ Pattern Pusha, Curl Keeper
    Sealers: Jojoba* or Grapeseed* oil

    * = HG

  • MyrnaMyrna Posts: 2,332Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    WHAT product for fine hair? can anyone put up a pic and say where you get it? sometimes products for fine hair work well for me, although my hair is not fine.
  • deja_vudeja_vu Posts: 30Registered Users
    I have psoriasis btw, and the black line helped. But its drying if used often (because of the clay in it) so you have to deep condition or do a hot oil treatment after it.

    I dont use it any more though, i use TheraNeem now because I can go longer without washing my hair or the psoriasis acting up.

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  • juanabjuanab Posts: 4,037Registered Users
    Myrna wrote: »
    WHAT product for fine hair? can anyone put up a pic and say where you get it? sometimes products for fine hair work well for me, although my hair is not fine.

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    I believe you can get them at Walgreens or Target.

    texture - medium/fine, porosity - low/normal, elasticity - normal
    co-wash - NaturelleGrow Coconut Water or Marshmallow Root, Slippery Elm Bark & Blue Malva Cleansing Conditioners
    LI - KCKT mixed w/ SM C & H Curl & Style Milk
    DC - NG Mango & Coconut H2O or Chamomile/Brdck Root
    Gel - SM souffle (winter), KCCC (summer) or CR Naturals Aloe Whipped Butter Gel (year round)
    Sealers - Virgin Coconut Oil, Avocado butter, Aloe butter
    Ayurvedic treatments - Jamila Henna, Sukesh, Aloe Vera Powder, Hibiscus Powder
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  • DepressedCurlsDepressedCurls Posts: 836Registered Users
    I use the shampoo, love and it does add volume and i used the milk and loveddddd it and can say it helped with volume as well. Still a favorite of mine, I'll be switching back to it soon. I like alternation.

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  • SusieQinSusieQin Posts: 212Registered Users
    I was really looking at the Green line for the thin and fine hair. Not everything has the coconut oil so high on the list. I wonder how long that sale may last lol. Is it only Walgreens and cvs? Was target on that sale wagon too?
    CG Since 2010
    Hair Attributes: Mixed 2 with 3A undergrowth & no root curl.
    Fine, Thin, Easily Manipulated, Easily Styled, Easy to Frizz, and Easy to damage.

    Favorites: CJ Daily Fix, CJ Rehab, Anything Spiral Solutions, Darcy Botanicals Pumpkin Seed

    New Goals To restore my hair after dying it twice in two weeks. Learning more about products found in the stores to fit my tight budget. I'm still working on trying to grow out my hair.
  • SusieQinSusieQin Posts: 212Registered Users
    I think I'll go ahead and buy a few of the products this weekend. I can experiment
    CG Since 2010
    Hair Attributes: Mixed 2 with 3A undergrowth & no root curl.
    Fine, Thin, Easily Manipulated, Easily Styled, Easy to Frizz, and Easy to damage.

    Favorites: CJ Daily Fix, CJ Rehab, Anything Spiral Solutions, Darcy Botanicals Pumpkin Seed

    New Goals To restore my hair after dying it twice in two weeks. Learning more about products found in the stores to fit my tight budget. I'm still working on trying to grow out my hair.
  • DepressedCurlsDepressedCurls Posts: 836Registered Users
    SusieQin wrote: »
    I was really looking at the Green line for the thin and fine hair. Not everything has the coconut oil so high on the list. I wonder how long that sale may last lol. Is it only Walgreens and cvs? Was target on that sale wagon too?

    the walgreens sale ends tonight.

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  • SusieQinSusieQin Posts: 212Registered Users
    So I did end up picking up three products. One was the Shampoo for the green line for thinning hair. I LOVE it. Coconut oil is lower on the list and when I washed out my hair I could really feel the oils still in there, but not in a greasy way. I used a nickle sized portion of my Giovanni Smooth as Silk conditioner.

    My hair was so soft that when my hair dried naturally it was a bit more limp. So immediately I thought it was over conditioned.

    Second day hair wasn't so bad. I bought the Hold in moisture Spray Coconut and Hibiscus. I LOVE THAT too! Did amazing for the ends of my hair and keeping it nice.

    So my next experiment was using the Yucca & Baobab Thickening Shampoo and Raw Shea Butter Restorative Conditioner. The conditioner was not as thick as I had hopped. In fact my hair hated it immediately. I didn't even let my hair dry all the way because of how porus it became. I re-wet it and applied my smooth as silk conditioner and poof it was fine. The following morning I styled it this time with my Mira Curling Gel. BEAUTIFUL hair ALLLLLLL day long.

    After being in PT and my hair got wet I knew I needed to wash my hair again. This time I used ONLY the shampoo and I let it sit, rinsed out with cool water and went on my marry way. It is soft, but I feel my ends are still dry.

    I'm going to return the Restorative Conditioner to Target today and go ahead and pick up the Volumizing Conditioner that also the green line and see how that goes.

    I am REALLY pleased with the Shampoo results though. My hair was clean and not stripped out oils and it really does seem that it was a little more kick in it. I also had no frizz either.

    Since Target has such a nice return policy I don't see why I can't just run the gauntlet to see what I like.

    I did notice all the strange looks I was getting though. The section the Shea Butter in the African-American hair section. Pfft, if only they knew about curly hair. My hair is a nice fine, thin, 2 b/c but it LOVES heavy products and HATES Glycerin.

    Okay, so that's my update!
    CG Since 2010
    Hair Attributes: Mixed 2 with 3A undergrowth & no root curl.
    Fine, Thin, Easily Manipulated, Easily Styled, Easy to Frizz, and Easy to damage.

    Favorites: CJ Daily Fix, CJ Rehab, Anything Spiral Solutions, Darcy Botanicals Pumpkin Seed

    New Goals To restore my hair after dying it twice in two weeks. Learning more about products found in the stores to fit my tight budget. I'm still working on trying to grow out my hair.
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    Naturally dry scalp (xerosis) is not that common as a cause of dandruff or flaking, more often people self diagnose and actually have seborrhoeic dermatitis, irritant contact dermatitis, atopic eczema or psoriasis. SD and psoriasis can benefit from treatment with SA.

    I would not have thought there would be that high a concentration of salicylic acid in a cosmetic shampoo, and you can always dilute down before use. Yes SA can be drying because it is fat soluble, but how much would depend on the formula - if there is oil in the product the SA has 'options'. It's also an acid so will help close the cuticle and a keratolytic (breaks down protein bonds) so would presumably damage hair at higher concentrations. IIRC it's generally at 3% in pharmacy type shampoos, up to 10% in skin only topicals.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    I have found that I love the SM shampoos, but the conditioners are just okay. I have tried a couple of them and don't find them to have much slip or leave me feeling really conditioned- there are many conditioners I like better.

    My FAVE products from Shea Moisture are the BABY head to toe washes (used as body wash AND shampoo), the BABY body lotions, and the Yucca (green label) MILK! I use the milk as a leave-in and it is AWESOME.

    The baby lines have the most amazing scents of all. The head to toe washes act like a clarifying shampoo, more than a conditioning shampoo, but there are no sulfates.

    I do love the Yucca (green) shampoo too, and feel it is moisturizing enough and my hair doesn't feel stripped after I wash.
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • SusieQinSusieQin Posts: 212Registered Users
    chloe92us wrote: »
    I have found that I love the SM shampoos, but the conditioners are just okay. I have tried a couple of them and don't find them to have much slip or leave me feeling really conditioned- there are many conditioners I like better.

    My FAVE products from Shea Moisture are the BABY head to toe washes (used as body wash AND shampoo), the BABY body lotions, and the Yucca (green label) MILK! I use the milk as a leave-in and it is AWESOME.

    The baby lines have the most amazing scents of all. The head to toe washes act like a clarifying shampoo, more than a conditioning shampoo, but there are no sulfates.

    I do love the Yucca (green) shampoo too, and feel it is moisturizing enough and my hair doesn't feel stripped after I wash.

    I know you said you are not a fan of the Conditioners, but what about the Yucca Conditioner? How would you compare that to the to the restorative conditioner I tried?

    Also have you tried the hair Masques?
    CG Since 2010
    Hair Attributes: Mixed 2 with 3A undergrowth & no root curl.
    Fine, Thin, Easily Manipulated, Easily Styled, Easy to Frizz, and Easy to damage.

    Favorites: CJ Daily Fix, CJ Rehab, Anything Spiral Solutions, Darcy Botanicals Pumpkin Seed

    New Goals To restore my hair after dying it twice in two weeks. Learning more about products found in the stores to fit my tight budget. I'm still working on trying to grow out my hair.
  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    I have the Yucca, and tried the restorative. Neither wowed me. I have not tried any of the masks. I use the yucca condish to cowash but use my other conditioners if I need "more".

    I just started using the green label stuff, so my experience is limited, but highly recommend the milk and poo.
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • anonymous_133347anonymous_133347 Posts: 1,426Registered Users
    So far my fav of the shea moisture conditioners in terms of slip and performance is the Curl & Shine one. I like the Yucca one though. I don't like Restorative as rinseout on its own and I have to mix it with something else. It has no slip. And I try to finger detangle so I need a conditioner with slip! The restorative works great in deep treatments and as a leave in though.
    3A - C, HP, ME, HD. (Coarse, High Porosity, Medium Elasticity, High Density.)

    CG since Nov. 2012

    Poos: SM Moisture Retention + Yucca Baobab, TJ's Tea Tree Tingle
    Condish: TJ 'sTea Tree Tingle*, SM Moisture Retention* + Curl & Shine + Yucca Baobab, Yes to Blueberries
    Stylers: KCKT*, SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie* + Curl & Style Milk*, KCCC*, FSG*, CJ Pattern Pusha, Curl Keeper
    Sealers: Jojoba* or Grapeseed* oil

    * = HG