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Another teenage girl lost to rape culture.

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  • Always@nightAlways@night Posts: 566Registered Users
    This us disgusting, yet unfortunately I am not surprised. The cruelty of some humans knows no boundaries. Especially teenagers.
  • theliothelio Posts: 5,374Registered Users
    So they take pictures of the rape, but still not enough evidince to charge them? really? SMDH!
  • annabananaliseannabananalise Posts: 1,913Registered Users
    Ugh.

    I'm so disgusted that guys posted evidence of it and everyone jumped on the girl. Like what the eff? Victim blaming makes me seethe so much.
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  • Fifi.GFifi.G Posts: 15,490Registered Users
    Wtf is wrong with people?

    Maybe it's just where I am from (and due to the different time with no cell phones or social networking) but I can not even imagine someone allegedly being raped and in turn being bullied out of school. Sure, we had bullies in high school, but they were kept in check. Someone always stepped in, and stopped it. Long talk, or 10 minutes locked in a empty classroom with a bullies worst nightmare... It was stopped. The blame was not shifted.

    I don't even know what to think anymore. This is a heartbreaking.
    When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    Ultimately, if it's to be stopped, women are going to have to break the rape culture ourselves, because our paternalistic society isn't going to do it for us. We can't continue to call each other sl*ts and wh*res. We can't judge each other based on sex and sexuality. By doing so, we are participating in our own oppression. We need to teach our daughters to stop doing this. We need to teach them to embrace feminism, even if the term has been demonized by the hate-media-industry. Let's change the term, call it pro-femininity or pro-woman or whatever, but we need to stop accepting this culture of rape.
  • murrrcatmurrrcat Posts: 9,596Registered Users
    this makes me so sad.


    so disgusting.
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  • claudine19claudine19 Posts: 4,486Registered Users
    Ultimately, if it's to be stopped, women are going to have to break the rape culture ourselves, because our paternalistic society isn't going to do it for us. We can't continue to call each other sl*ts and wh*res. We can't judge each other based on sex and sexuality. By doing so, we are participating in our own oppression. We need to teach our daughters to stop doing this. We need to teach them to embrace feminism, even if the term has been demonized by the hate-media-industry. Let's change the term, call it pro-femininity or pro-woman or whatever, but we need to stop accepting this culture of rape.

    I couldn't agree more.
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  • Fifi.GFifi.G Posts: 15,490Registered Users
    claudine19 wrote: »
    Ultimately, if it's to be stopped, women are going to have to break the rape culture ourselves, because our paternalistic society isn't going to do it for us. We can't continue to call each other sl*ts and wh*res. We can't judge each other based on sex and sexuality. By doing so, we are participating in our own oppression. We need to teach our daughters to stop doing this. We need to teach them to embrace feminism, even if the term has been demonized by the hate-media-industry. Let's change the term, call it pro-femininity or pro-woman or whatever, but we need to stop accepting this culture of rape.

    I couldn't agree more.

    Same here, but I think it's going to take a little more than that. There seems to be some type of disconnect from reality when it comes to how your actions impact others. Hitting send on a text, or sharing a video & pics, etc. It's all to easy for people to take part in the complete destruction of another human being, with out giving their part any real thought.
    When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

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  • Fifi.GFifi.G Posts: 15,490Registered Users
    ^ of course I am not saying down with technology, but further talks need to be had on impact of words and actions.
    When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    Fifi.G wrote: »
    claudine19 wrote: »
    Ultimately, if it's to be stopped, women are going to have to break the rape culture ourselves, because our paternalistic society isn't going to do it for us. We can't continue to call each other sl*ts and wh*res. We can't judge each other based on sex and sexuality. By doing so, we are participating in our own oppression. We need to teach our daughters to stop doing this. We need to teach them to embrace feminism, even if the term has been demonized by the hate-media-industry. Let's change the term, call it pro-femininity or pro-woman or whatever, but we need to stop accepting this culture of rape.

    I couldn't agree more.

    Same here, but I think it's going to take a little more than that. There seems to be some type of disconnect from reality when it comes to how your actions impact others. Hitting send on a text, or sharing a video & pics, etc. It's all to easy for people to take part in the complete destruction of another human being, with out giving their part any real thought.



    It's mob mentality. A curious human trait. And it's been around a lot longer than electronic social media.
  • Fifi.GFifi.G Posts: 15,490Registered Users
    Fifi.G wrote: »
    claudine19 wrote: »

    I couldn't agree more.

    Same here, but I think it's going to take a little more than that. There seems to be some type of disconnect from reality when it comes to how your actions impact others. Hitting send on a text, or sharing a video & pics, etc. It's all to easy for people to take part in the complete destruction of another human being, with out giving their part any real thought.



    It's mob mentality. A curious human trait. And it's been around a lot longer than electronic social media.

    That it has, but I can not get it. Seriously, many people did all they could to break that mentality when I was in school. You did not let it slide. Now you hear tales of kids being forces to switch schools, only to find banners and flyers in the hallway shaming them when they get to the new one. Mob seems to be the overwhelming mentality.
    When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

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  • juanabjuanab Posts: 4,037Registered Users
    Please include the "b" word in what we need to stop calling each other.

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  • HootenannyHootenanny Posts: 300Registered Users
    This is one of the worst things I have read in a long time. I'm crying right now. Just unbelievable.
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  • Fifi.GFifi.G Posts: 15,490Registered Users
    I have mentioned this here before...

    I watched my friends daughter go to a specific FB page and post pic's of herself. Person after person continued to tell her how ugly she was. She was fat, her hair was stringy, her glasses made her look stupid, but she had nice **** sucking lips and they might sleep with her, if they had to. She would in turn take their comments to heart, change things, and post another pic. They would rip her apart again. This went on for days.

    Girl after young lady (12-17 I would guess) did this. I... it's one of the strangest things I have ever witnessed. Why do that to yourself, for a bunch of a**holes? I tried to talk to her, but it did no good. She was used to it. It was the norm for her.

    I have always wanted kids, but when I see stuff like this I am glad life has had other plans so far. I can see why more and more people are pulling their children out of public schools. I am not sure that is the best option either. Idk.
    When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    I think this is nothing really new. Girls have always been abused and degraded for sport, and we can't generalize about what places are safe. It happened in the home for me...by my older brother. I was suicidal about it. I almost killed myself at 9 years old because of it. School was a much safer place for me than my own home. I think the key is teaching our girls not to accept it, not to participate in it, giving them lots of love and confidence-building at home, listening/believing them when they say something is happening to them, and rescuing them from bad situations (changing schools, etc.) when necessary.
  • murrrcatmurrrcat Posts: 9,596Registered Users
    I really wish slut shaming would stop, just when I've thought I've educated someone on slut shaming, they go and call someone a slut....for wearing high heels or some b.s.:angry7:
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  • Fifi.GFifi.G Posts: 15,490Registered Users
    I think this is nothing really new. Girls have always been abused and degraded for sport, and we can't generalize about what places are safe. It happened in the home for me...by my older brother. I was suicidal about it. I almost killed myself at 9 years old because of it. School was a much safer place for me than my own home. I think the key is teaching our girls not to accept it, not to participate in it, giving them lots of love and confidence-building at home, listening/believing them when they say something is happening to them, and rescuing them from bad situations (changing schools, etc.) when necessary.

    I completely agree with the talking to them and teaching them not to accept it. That is what is I am saying (or at least trying to). That should always be taught, and girls being degraded for sport is not new, but it is on a much larger interaction scale now.

    ETA: I am very sorry about what your brother did.
    When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

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  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,495Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    We need to make a practice of treating each other with kindness ad respect. (And modeling it for our children.)

    There are all types of bullying. Often it's men on women. sometimes it's women on women. Sometimes it's sexual. Sometimes it's not.

    Stop being bullies. And teach your kids the same.

  • DedachanDedachan Posts: 1,644Registered Users
    Sickening.
  • Fifi.GFifi.G Posts: 15,490Registered Users
    We need to make a practice of treating each other with kindness ad respect. (And modeling it for our children.)

    There are all types of bullying. Often it's men on women. sometimes it's women on women. Sometimes it's sexual. Sometimes it's not.

    Stop being bullies. And teach your kids the same.

    Boys on boys, too. Everybody!! And has to be much easier to do when they are not face to face with someone, or hearing their voice.

    Ugh! It is such a sad story, and unfortunately one of many.
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  • rouquinnerouquinne Posts: 13,498Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    oh, yeah.... NOW they're going to re-open the investigation....

    N.S. officials to review alleged assault of teen who committed suicide | CTV News

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  • JosephineJosephine Posts: 14,175Registered Users
    Ultimately, if it's to be stopped, women are going to have to break the rape culture ourselves, because our paternalistic society isn't going to do it for us. We can't continue to call each other sl*ts and wh*res. We can't judge each other based on sex and sexuality. By doing so, we are participating in our own oppression. We need to teach our daughters to stop doing this. We need to teach them to embrace feminism, even if the term has been demonized by the hate-media-industry. Let's change the term, call it pro-femininity or pro-woman or whatever, but we need to stop accepting this culture of rape.

    I totally agree, esp with the bolded. We also need to teach sons to be feminists and teach people that's it's not a bad word. Hard to do with grown adults since the term is so tainted.

    Even Marissa Mayer (ceo of yahoo) has issues, I was so pissed off when I read this -

    "I don’t think that I would consider myself a feminist. I think that, I certainly believe in equal rights. I believe that women are just as capable, if not more so, in a lot of different dimensions. But I don’t, I think, have sort of the militant drive and sort of the chip on the shoulder that sometimes comes with that. And I think it’s too bad, but I do think feminism has become, in many ways, a more negative word. There are amazing opportunities all over the world for women, and I think that there’s more good that comes out of positive energy around that than negative energy."

    Read more: Marissa Mayer Criticizes Feminism - Business Insider
  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    Josephine wrote: »
    Ultimately, if it's to be stopped, women are going to have to break the rape culture ourselves, because our paternalistic society isn't going to do it for us. We can't continue to call each other sl*ts and wh*res. We can't judge each other based on sex and sexuality. By doing so, we are participating in our own oppression. We need to teach our daughters to stop doing this. We need to teach them to embrace feminism, even if the term has been demonized by the hate-media-industry. Let's change the term, call it pro-femininity or pro-woman or whatever, but we need to stop accepting this culture of rape.

    I totally agree, esp with the bolded. We also need to teach sons to be feminists and teach people that's it's not a bad word. Hard to do with grown adults since the term is so tainted.

    Even Marissa Mayer (ceo of yahoo) has issues, I was so pissed off when I read this -

    "I don’t think that I would consider myself a feminist. I think that, I certainly believe in equal rights. I believe that women are just as capable, if not more so, in a lot of different dimensions. But I don’t, I think, have sort of the militant drive and sort of the chip on the shoulder that sometimes comes with that. And I think it’s too bad, but I do think feminism has become, in many ways, a more negative word. There are amazing opportunities all over the world for women, and I think that there’s more good that comes out of positive energy around that than negative energy."

    Read more: Marissa Mayer Criticizes Feminism - Business Insider



    WTH? Feminism isn't negative or militant. There may have been negative or militant techniques used to obtain rights, especially in the early days, but this Marissa Mayer appears to be listening to Rush Limbaugh, et al, too much and buying into their anti-woman rhetoric. I don't understand the attitude towards feminism. The definition of the word just means "for women". If you're for women having equal opportunities and rights then, congratulations, you're a feminist. She is where she is because of feminism. I hate that she is turning her back on it...probably for the almighty dollar...
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  • leenieleenie Posts: 194Registered Users
    I live in Halifax. I wish things like this didn't happen here, and I wish so much more was done to help this girl.

    The following is a blog post that, although not written by me, sums up a lot of what I've been thinking about this.

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  • Fifi.GFifi.G Posts: 15,490Registered Users
    rouquinne wrote: »
    oh, yeah.... NOW they're going to re-open the investigation....

    N.S. officials to review alleged assault of teen who committed suicide | CTV News

    :(

    I agreed with several comments in the link. In part, if not fully.

    **At 64, I still struggle from a "date rape" by one individual, over 30 years ago. I've never married, never had children and forget trust. I knew 30 years ago that "date rape" was something "unbelievable". I thought this was a progressive society - guess I was wrong.**

    ^ I was thinking about that myself. I can remember seeing stories on the news about the way date rape investigations were handled, when it was really coming into public light. It was more about the way law enforcement/justice system looked over things or placed blame due to what the woman was wearing, or if she was drunk. That kept so many women quiet about their own rape. It still does. There was always a fear of being blamed, or some feeling they deserved it, or ... I can not imagine having a school full of people do it as well, and also snap & share pictures of a horrible life altering moment. Way to slam it in reverse, rather than attempt further progression.


    **A few weeks ago in a Northern Ontario community, a video was taking of a intoxicated youth in a fast food restaurant being poked and mocked by other youths. There was a social media witch hunt for any involved and witnesses to the "bullying" situation. Within the week, after hundreds of media comments the involved assailant was arrested and in a local court, charged. Yet this matter involving a young women can slip through the justice system as "probable cause." It's disgusting to think this isn't the first time this has happened or the last. The law is in place to protect people, if we keep allowing citizens to share and make negetive comments that are unlawful and let them get away with it, it will only continue to get worse by desensitizing people to accountability. Enough is enough, I'm sure if this was a police officer or judges daughter from that community, those involved would not be walking. Makes you wonder who the assailants family is, or maybe they were star hockey or football players. May she rest in peace.**

    Interesting point. Okay, no, making negative comments is not illegal but something has to be done to bring accountability into light in situations like this.
    When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

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  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    It seems like everyone around her failed her: The rapists - of course, her classmates, the school and the "justice" system. So disheartening. I can see why she thought death was the only out... smh

    What kind of human being treats rape like a spectator sport? Disgusting.
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  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,495Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    It seems like everyone around her failed her: The rapists - of course, her classmates, the school and the "justice" system. So disheartening. I can see why she thought death was the only out... smh

    What kind of human being treats rape like a spectator sport? Disgusting.

    I know, right? But my heart really goes out to the parents...they even moved to a new community so she could get a fresh start. Not all parents would do that! And even still, they couldn't protect her. :sad:

  • Fifi.GFifi.G Posts: 15,490Registered Users
    For a moment I stopped to wonder where the hell school officials were, or what they were doing, but then I had to remind myself that I had no idea where most of them were when I was in school. *Trying to run off people who wore black, because they were clearly devil worshipers :-/ was a common answer to that question* I am sure they have a great deal to handle but some stories are just pathetic.

    Like the one I mentioned earlier with the girl who was bullied relentlessly at her school. Her parents moved her to a different one, only to find her attackers at her previous school had contacted acquaintances at the new one. She walked into a horrible situation. How do students put up banners and posters mocking someone and get away with it?

    How do you take and circulate pics of a (possible) gang rape and get away with it?

    It's effed up.
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