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Au Naturale Hair Challenge

msmishamsmisha Posts: 9Registered Users
I'm thinking of - literally- abandoning all modern hair products for a chance at old school. Which for me, means,

1) I will NOT use any heat on my hair. At all.
2) I will use no shampoo, conditioner, leave in, gel, etc. etc. on my hair - if it did not exist in ANCIENT GREECE, I will not use it.
3) I will accept that grease (no pun intended) =growth, and will avoid wetting/washing my hair as much as possible. Maybe once every two weeks - hopefully longer.
4) I will only 'wash' with good ol' water.
5) I will put in an oil - whether it be mineral, petroleum, or castor, or jojoba, or grapeseed, as I see fit.
6) I will braid my hair in the shower. Because it's short.
7) I will style my hair has greecian women did, meaning - braided, up in a bun, half up or half down, wrapped in a scarf, but always keeping my ends above my collar, unless I'm having a fair maiden day. Which I can't' do. Because my hair is only six inches long, and fair maiden-ing requires at least 24 or so.

It's not that I don't love products - it's just that women have been growing hair to luxurious lengths for millenia without all the additional hubbabaloo, and I'd like to see how that works out for me.

(Plus I'm a college student, and I'm becoming more and more dead beat broke every time I surf the internet for hair products - I literally just ordered a Coolway flat iron. Now when it arrives, I must send it back.)

Anyone care to join me? This is just my personal list, you can of course, amend and fix to your will, but this is just my idea of Au Naturale hair care; If the Greecian women didn't do it, I won't either.
Current Challenge; Water Only washing
Time In; About 2 days (went to the pool, had to wash)
Current Feeling; Concern about hair falling out
Current Hair Status; Soft in my 3B parts, okay in 3C, still kinky for 4a

Comments

  • bosanbobosanbo Posts: 180Registered Users
    Sort of not about hair, but I'm an archaeologist, so... this kind of interests me. People all around the world have actually been using all kinds of things to clean their hair for a long, long time.

    I don't really want to butt in on an entertaining experiement with predictions. But I am definitely curious to know what happens, and willing to share ethnobotanical information if you're interested.

    How did you choose Greece as your model?
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    I'm mostly away doing field work through mid-May.

    Hair: curlybob, fine, dense, low-po, big waves/ringlets (2C/3A)
    Co-Wash: Nature's Gate Herbal Conditioner
    RO: YTC Carrot, Aubrey Organics GPB
    LI: BS Shea Soft Styling Cream (HG)
    Styling: KCCC, Garnier P&C Gel
    1xWeek: low-poo, gelatin PT or Joico K-Pak
    Hair Likes: aloe, coconut oil, humidity, protein, long walks on the beach
  • kurlygurlykurlygurly Posts: 644Registered Users
    One concern I have is that you'll use grease but only wash with water.
    msmisha wrote: »
    I'm thinking of - literally- abandoning all modern hair products for a chance at old school. Which for me, means,

    1) I will NOT use any heat on my hair. At all.
    2) I will use no shampoo, conditioner, leave in, gel, etc. etc. on my hair - if it did not exist in ANCIENT GREECE, I will not use it.
    3) I will accept that grease (no pun intended) =growth, and will avoid wetting/washing my hair as much as possible. Maybe once every two weeks - hopefully longer.
    4) I will only 'wash' with good ol' water.
    5) I will put in an oil - whether it be mineral, petroleum, or castor, or jojoba, or grapeseed, as I see fit.
    6) I will braid my hair in the shower. Because it's short.
    7) I will style my hair has greecian women did, meaning - braided, up in a bun, half up or half down, wrapped in a scarf, but always keeping my ends above my collar, unless I'm having a fair maiden day. Which I can't' do. Because my hair is only six inches long, and fair maiden-ing requires at least 24 or so.

    It's not that I don't love products - it's just that women have been growing hair to luxurious lengths for millenia without all the additional hubbabaloo, and I'd like to see how that works out for me.

    (Plus I'm a college student, and I'm becoming more and more dead beat broke every time I surf the internet for hair products - I literally just ordered a Coolway flat iron. Now when it arrives, I must send it back.)

    Anyone care to join me? This is just my personal list, you can of course, amend and fix to your will, but this is just my idea of Au Naturale hair care; If the Greecian women didn't do it, I won't either.



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    Wash: Desert Essence Coconut shampoo, Acure argon shampoo
    Deep Trestment: Nature's Nectars deep conditioner/styler
    Condition: Nature's Nectars luv-n-a-bottle, Nature's Gate pomegranate sunflower
    LEAVE-IN:Nature's Nectars luv-n-a-bottle, Natures Gate pomegranate sunflower
    STYLE: Nature's Nectars Sweet Shea butter blend, Ecostyler gel
    hemp oil, jojoba oil
    www.naturesnectars.net
  • LoveInBetweenLoveInBetween Posts: 392Registered Users
    Mineral oil/petroleum are petrochemicals and are man made. I don't believe those existed during ancient times..no?

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    Co: As I am Coconut CoWash,VO5 Claifying Conditioner
    DC: Macadamia Repair Masque
    LI: KCKT, Suave Naturals Coconut
    Style Creme: Shea Moisture Curl Enhancing Smoothie
    Gel: KCCC, Eco Styler Argan Oil
    Sealer: EVCO, EVOO

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  • FmasuhrFmasuhr Posts: 1,354Registered Users
    i find this very interesting, im going to be follow this thread. i have too tried going all natural, and only water washes, n that, maybe i wasnt doing it right but it didnt really suit me. though i still stay as natural as i can. pls let us know how its going.

    my hair: 3b, high porosity, high density and coarse hair (i think i finally figured that all out)
    my hair loves conditioner only styling!
    Oils and my own procuts are my hairs best friend
    my hair goal length is bra strap length when curly.
    :hello1:
  • mirajohnsonmirajohnson Posts: 1Registered Users
    msmisha this could backfire on you. There are so many reasons for using some natural items, but still use them to fix your hair.. I wouldn`t do it, but go for it if you think it will help





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  • msmishamsmisha Posts: 9Registered Users
    I can't do it, sincerely, I know it's only been a few days, but my hair is seriously hating me right now, mineral oil/petroleum jelly makes it feel amazingly soft, but whoaaaa is it greasy. I supposed that is why they invented silicones. There's almost nothing I dislike more than the proverbial grease spot when you resting your head against something.

    If I had more money and could afford some jamaican castor oil or some other heavy oil - because I've discovered through petroleum jelly and mineral oil that my hair likes heavy oils- I'd definitely try this again. But on a college student's budget and the cost of these grease stains on my pillows/clothes/hair, I'm gonna have to quit the race early :( It's so sad

    Where can I get relatively cheap castor oil? Everywhere I find some, it's upwards of $20 a bottle, and that's just regular castor oil.
    Current Challenge; Water Only washing
    Time In; About 2 days (went to the pool, had to wash)
    Current Feeling; Concern about hair falling out
    Current Hair Status; Soft in my 3B parts, okay in 3C, still kinky for 4a
  • bosanbobosanbo Posts: 180Registered Users
    Well, I was curious about the outcome, but I thought this might be it... Now that you've said you're through with this idea, I'll jump in! Like I said, I love a good experiment, even one that seems like it's been done a thousand times. I applaud you for trying your idea out, even if it ended quickly!

    Soaproot and Soapnuts are two plants that foam on their own (they contain compounds called saponins) and create a cleansing goo. Soaproot is found in the western U.S., and was used by Native American groups as a cleaning agent long before Europeans arrived. I work in archaeology in California, and come across soaproot (and whisk-type brushes made from the fibers) everywhere! You might be interested in this article on making shampoo from yucca, which has similar properties.

    Soapnuts are something I'm just learning about. My friend Andrea the chemist (her blog has tons of cheap DIY stuff, by the way, so you might like that) introduced me to them, and they are included in her current shampoo bar, this one. You should poke around that whole website, it has a lot of "low ingredient" items that you might find interesting, and they're more affordable than most hair/body products I see in stores. Those $2.70 samples last for over a month, for me.

    Lastly, there are a lot of simple ways to clean yourself that are cheap and may seem modern, but have really been around for a long, long time (maybe not since Ancient Greece...). Baking soda is a great example. CGers galore use baking soda to clarify their hair, and I've seen some folks list that as their only "shampoo" method. A rinse with apple cider vinegar is also popular, and vinegar has definitely been around since even before the Greeks. You could experiment with adding herbal teas to ACV to make a rinse that suits your hair. Some light oils (not mineral or petroleum) like jojoba, olive, coconut, etc. could serve as conditioners. A lot of these items continue to be readily available in stores not because they aren't old, old ideas, but because they work and people have kept using them for dozens, hundreds, or thousands of years.

    I bought my castor oil from drugstore.com, by the way. It's this right here by NOW Solutions, and it's a large bottle. I mix it with coconut oil two times a week for deep treatments, and I also apply it to my eyebrows (which thinned out for health reasons!). It absolutely made my brows grow back faster. I can tell because it has been a pain in the *** to keep them shaped since I started using it nightly. This bottle will definitely last me a while.
    I sort of blog
    I'm mostly away doing field work through mid-May.

    Hair: curlybob, fine, dense, low-po, big waves/ringlets (2C/3A)
    Co-Wash: Nature's Gate Herbal Conditioner
    RO: YTC Carrot, Aubrey Organics GPB
    LI: BS Shea Soft Styling Cream (HG)
    Styling: KCCC, Garnier P&C Gel
    1xWeek: low-poo, gelatin PT or Joico K-Pak
    Hair Likes: aloe, coconut oil, humidity, protein, long walks on the beach
  • kurlygurlykurlygurly Posts: 644Registered Users
    The Home Health brand makes a very affordable castor oil.

    Sent from my DROID RAZR using CurlTalk App
    3b-ish... normal to low porosity....med. texture
    Wash: Desert Essence Coconut shampoo, Acure argon shampoo
    Deep Trestment: Nature's Nectars deep conditioner/styler
    Condition: Nature's Nectars luv-n-a-bottle, Nature's Gate pomegranate sunflower
    LEAVE-IN:Nature's Nectars luv-n-a-bottle, Natures Gate pomegranate sunflower
    STYLE: Nature's Nectars Sweet Shea butter blend, Ecostyler gel
    hemp oil, jojoba oil
    www.naturesnectars.net
  • KiraSavannahKiraSavannah Posts: 423Registered Users
    Petroleum is man made).... but they used honey as a conditioner

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    Bi-Weekly RO:Tresseme Naturals - V.Smooth/N.Moisture
    Daily Leave in:Shea Moisture Extra Moisture Detangler
    Daily Oil: Olive Oil & Conut Oil Mix
    Daily Styler: Shea Moisture Curl & Style Milk
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    Humans were cleansing with soapwort back in the stone age, so likely were in ancient Greece too. I suspect most of the oils listed in the OP were not used until relatively recently, have you tried extracting the oil from grapeseeds without modern machinery? If you want to be authentic use oils and butters that can be extracted using traditional 'cottage industry' type methods and contain fatty acids that can 'nourish' the scalp or hair - olive, palm fruit, shea butter and coconut oil for example. Mineral oil and petroleum jelly will just build up, not penetrate.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • darkbeautyttdarkbeautytt Posts: 448Registered Users
    Why not use olive oil, its helps or coconut oil. I have been on a similar journey for close to 2 month now, and I saw tremendous difference in my hair, its shining and looks healthy. I use clay to cleanse but you can use Africa black soap, very cost effective or invest in soapwort or Terressentials clays which is what I use

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  • nettie4lyfenettie4lyfe Posts: 11Registered Users
    You can try Apple cider vinegar as a shampoo rinse and Extra Virgin Olivé Oil or Grapeseed oil as your natural oils. Those oils you can get at your local grocery or Wallmart for cheap and Olive Oil also penetrates the hair shaft.

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  • darkbeautyttdarkbeautytt Posts: 448Registered Users
    Here is my hair taking out of the twist. I rinsed.out the clay, and sealed my wet hair with olive oil. Rocked the twist for two weeks. Here is a pic. Had great definition with oil twisting, no gel or conditioner

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  • ginabean98ginabean98 Posts: 197Registered Users
    Cleansing the hair with honey is a viable option. Click on this link for an easy recipe:
    DIY Honey Shampoo - Empowered Sustenance
    I actually have a thread devoted to this diy cleansing conditioner. :))
    Hope you like it.
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