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Anyone with coarse, lpw porousity hair use mousse?

MyrnaMyrna Posts: 2,332Registered Users Curl Neophyte
or is mousse only for finer haired curlies? this question has been plagueing me for a long time.

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  • JessiebananaJessiebanana Posts: 940Banned Users
    I think the only way anyone would be successful with mousse if they had course hair is if they didn't have very dense hair and I'm not even sure about that.
    3C/Fine to Medium/Low Porosity/High Density

    :love5:MoistureMoistureMoisture:love5:

    Low Poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo
    RO/DC: DB Pumpkin Seed Curl Moisturizing Conditioner
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: Queen Helene Sculpturing Gel & Glaze

    No Salts, No Waxes, No Butters, No Heavy Oils
    No ACV, No Saponified Oils, Protein Sensitive
  • Jas76Jas76 Posts: 2,283Registered Users
    I'm not coarse or low porous, but here's my thoughts in mousse.

    I had some success with it in my pre-CG days. Specifically with matrix Curl.life foam.

    My thought process back then was that if I got as much moisture out of my hair as possible (literally wrung it out with a bath towel), I could scrunch the curl back in, and using a foam would be lighter and not weigh it down.

    Towards the end I was realizing I got better hold with a glaze, while still being light.


    I think now with my new found hair knowledge I realize that I NEED that wetness to form the curls, and I NEED the oils and a gel to hold in moisture, etc. I think my hair finds some mousses to be a little drying, and it just needs MORE. My hair is a sponge, and it takes SO much mousse to make a difference. (Especially since it's obviously mixed with air!)

    So in MY mind it would seem like mouse would work BETTER for a coarse curlie, simply bc it's not going to suck up all the product.

    But others with personal experience are going to have weigh in and help you more!
    2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

    Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
    clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
    Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
    RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
    LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
    Seal - MO or Jojoba
    DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
    PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
    Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
    Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
  • HootenannyHootenanny Posts: 300Registered Users
    Myrna wrote: »
    or is mousse only for finer haired curlies? this question has been plagueing me for a long time.

    You've been using the Deva foam, right Myrna? Do you like it? I bought some recently but I can't seem to get it to work for me. How do you use it? I'm med-coarse and low-po.
    :cat: Medium/coarse, low porosity, dense, mix of 3s :cat:
    CG (again) since Nov. 2012

    Cleanse: SM Moisture Retention, Elucence MBC, KC Come Clean
    Condish: Giovanni DL, Cure Care, Ion Treatment, GVP Balm, AOHR
    Protein: AOGPB, CNPF, SSRPT
    Stylers: KCCC, SM Souffle, AOMM, SS CEJ, JCRR, JCCC

    :cat: Trying out steaming! :cat:
  • anonymous_133347anonymous_133347 Posts: 1,426Registered Users
    I think mousse is for whoever it's for and that's it. There are fine haired wavies who use the same gels as coarse haired coilies and fine haired coilies who might use the same gellies as medium haired curlies. I say if it works for you, it works for you. Mousse tends to make my hair really big. Comically big if you catch my drift. But I'm betting there all plenty of other people out there with my exact same properties who can use it and it looks great. Just thick, healthy and vivacious. No circus clown effect. :laughing2:
    3A - C, HP, ME, HD. (Coarse, High Porosity, Medium Elasticity, High Density.)

    CG since Nov. 2012

    Poos: SM Moisture Retention + Yucca Baobab, TJ's Tea Tree Tingle
    Condish: TJ 'sTea Tree Tingle*, SM Moisture Retention* + Curl & Shine + Yucca Baobab, Yes to Blueberries
    Stylers: KCKT*, SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie* + Curl & Style Milk*, KCCC*, FSG*, CJ Pattern Pusha, Curl Keeper
    Sealers: Jojoba* or Grapeseed* oil

    * = HG

  • MyrnaMyrna Posts: 2,332Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Hoot, I have been using Deva Foam but not by itself. I have to use a gel underneath, and the results are often inconsistant. So, I am now on a mission, after CurlyIndianGirl suggested that coarse, low porousity hair does not "take" well to layering because products dont penetrate our hair well (makes total sense). I am using one product at a time till I find the best "fit". Which at the moment may be CK.
  • BlackAngelPlayahBlackAngelPlayah Posts: 1,419Registered Users
    As much as I'd love to try mousse.. I know on my course tight curls I'd just have a puffy fro.

    Can get that with nothing. :)
    :afro:FroZen:afro:
  • JessiebananaJessiebanana Posts: 940Banned Users
    Jas76 wrote: »
    I'm not coarse or low porous, but here's my thoughts in mousse.

    I had some success with it in my pre-CG days. Specifically with matrix Curl.life foam.

    My thought process back then was that if I got as much moisture out of my hair as possible (literally wrung it out with a bath towel), I could scrunch the curl back in, and using a foam would be lighter and not weigh it down.

    Towards the end I was realizing I got better hold with a glaze, while still being light.


    I think now with my new found hair knowledge I realize that I NEED that wetness to form the curls, and I NEED the oils and a gel to hold in moisture, etc. I think my hair finds some mousses to be a little drying, and it just needs MORE. My hair is a sponge, and it takes SO much mousse to make a difference. (Especially since it's obviously mixed with air!)

    So in MY mind it would seem like mouse would work BETTER for a coarse curlie, simply bc it's not going to suck up all the product.

    But others with personal experience are going to have weigh in and help you more!

    Not everyone with fine hair is porous...
    Mousse is just very light, so if you want your styler to manipulate your hair much, I think it would be harder to do with coarse hair. You'd have more success with conditioner only styling...IMO.
    3C/Fine to Medium/Low Porosity/High Density

    :love5:MoistureMoistureMoisture:love5:

    Low Poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo
    RO/DC: DB Pumpkin Seed Curl Moisturizing Conditioner
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: Queen Helene Sculpturing Gel & Glaze

    No Salts, No Waxes, No Butters, No Heavy Oils
    No ACV, No Saponified Oils, Protein Sensitive
  • JessiebananaJessiebanana Posts: 940Banned Users
    Myrna wrote: »
    Hoot, I have been using Deva Foam but not by itself. I have to use a gel underneath, and the results are often inconsistant. So, I am now on a mission, after CurlyIndianGirl suggested that coarse, low porousity hair does not "take" well to layering because products dont penetrate our hair well (makes total sense). I am using one product at a time till I find the best "fit". Which at the moment may be CK.

    My hair doesn't like layering either. Right now while I'm waiting for items in the mail I'm layering two products while I'm still in the shower. The water and heat help.
    3C/Fine to Medium/Low Porosity/High Density

    :love5:MoistureMoistureMoisture:love5:

    Low Poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo
    RO/DC: DB Pumpkin Seed Curl Moisturizing Conditioner
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: Queen Helene Sculpturing Gel & Glaze

    No Salts, No Waxes, No Butters, No Heavy Oils
    No ACV, No Saponified Oils, Protein Sensitive
  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    My hair isn't very coarse anymore, sort of medium fine, but it is low porosity, and it does fine with layering - NOT with mixing products, though.

    I use mousse occasionally when I'm wanting a little change because my hair's airier and fuller, though not particularly clumpy or defined. If I use anything else with it, it's mousse first topped with a little gel for hold, not the reverse. That just doesn't work.

    I like Got2B Curly Kinks (I think that's what it's called - orange can at the drugstore). Also like JoiWhip, though it's a lot more expensive and no better, so I wouldn't buy again. I HATE Herbal Essences Totally Twisted - it just made my hair a sticky, stringy mess no matter how little or how much I used. I never tried it with anything else.

    Today I happened to use Giovanni holding foam, I think it's called, on top of just a little CJCCC lite - in a plastic pump bottle, not an aerosol can. It's big and full, very curly - looks good and better height on top than usual, but it feels sticky, and I like to have never gotten it scrunched out. I need to try it alone and see how it works.

    My hair used to be quite coarse and maybe a little more pourous, and back in those days I routinely used either mousse (one actually meant for permed hair or another for black hair - neither no longer around) or curl cream - never gel until I started hanging out here. I also routinely used regular hairspray then. Now I often use it, especially on second day and beyond, but only Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz - almost all natural organic ingredients and almost no alcohol in what I have, though I understand that may've recently changed . . . .
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

    www.fotki.com/auntnett
  • monipearlmonipearl Posts: 95Registered Users
    i used to use that got2b kinkier mousse as a curl enhancer, then gel on top. wurlylox is right. never works the other way around.

    i stopped using mousse because of all the chemicals. my hair does fine with conditioner and a little gel on top now. i think the key with layering is not using too much of any product. with my low porous strands, i only need a little of each styling product. because my hair is also coarse, the curl pattern is strong enough not to need a lot of product even though i also have very dense hair.

    although, i'm sure this is not the case with every low porosity, coarse, thick-haired curly.
    3c-4b. probably.
    medium/coarse texture.
    (extremely)high density.
    low porosity, normal elasticity.
    co-wash: suave naturals daily clarifying condish with drops of rosemary oil.
    detangling conditioner: tresemme naturals.
    deep conditioner: curly kinks curlycue renew, b.a.s.k. cacao bark, honey/evoo.