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What's your HG rinse-out?

MaggieTMaggieT Posts: 175Registered Users Curl Novice
I've got a pretty good CG routine going, but can't seem to find a rinse-out that I absolutely love.

I've got fine, medium dense, low-porosity 3b hair (it loosens to more like a 3a in the cooler weather), on the long side. (Getting longer each day!)

Deva products stopped working for me, as I know they have for so many. I've tried Aubrey Organics GPB and their Honeysuckle Rose, Giovanni Smoothing condish, SheaMoisture Repairing condish, CJ Beauticurls with protein, Jessicurls Aloeba, Oyin Honey Hemp . . . and all of them are sort of okay (except for the Oyin, which my hair hated), but none is great. I want to find something with good slip for detangling that will really moisturize and get into my hair, leaving it soft, conditioned, and juicy.

If you have something that does this for you, I'd love to know what it is! Esp. if your hair properties are similar to mine! :)
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3b, fine, medium density, normal porosity
Wash: Deva No Poo, sometime Phytojoba, Avalon lemon when needs clarifying
Rinse-out: Deva One Condition, CJ Beauticurls Strengthening, Phytojoba (kinda heavy for my hair but good noisture)
DT: CJ CCCCL, or KCKT
Leave-in: Phytokeratine, CCCCL
Styling: Deva Coconut Supercream or their Wave Maker with a little CS over the top

Comments

  • Corrina777Corrina777 Posts: 3,193Registered Users
    I've recently become a very big fan of Regis Olive Oil Conditioner. It doesn't have the best slip out of my conditioners, but I find it has a nice protein/moisture balance. My hair properties are not identical to yours (I'm fine/thick/normal/normal), but I decided to try it based on rave reviews from someone with your identical properties.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    3a/f/iii
    Modified CG since 11/5/11
    CLEANSE: CJ Daily Fix, DevaCare No-Poo, CHS Treatment Shampoo
    RO: SS Caitlin's Conditioner, CJ Beauticurls Strengthening
    LI: SS Repairing Protein Treatment, CHS Silk Leave-In
    STYLE: Re:Coil, Curl Keeper, Deva Ultra Defining Gel, Curls Rock Amplifier,Sweet Curls Elixirs Okra Gel and Hard Hold Gel, SS Curl Enhancing Jelly and Firm Hold Gel
  • hambo02hambo02 Posts: 480Registered Users
    garnier pure clean for my rinse out
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    I'm going to come out of "left field" with this answer--and it's only my opinion. If your hair is truly low porosity, your rinse out is your least important product. Unless you take a LONG shower, a minute, or two, on low porosity hair isn't going to do a lot.

    I get my hair cut every six weeks. It only tangles if I use an ingredient it HATES (castor and mineral oil do it.) The fact that you want something with "slip to detangle" makes me question whether or not your hair is low porosity.

    Frequently, I use product that I want to get rid of as my rinse out. If it's a richer styling product, it works well for that purpose. The only product(s) that gave me a problem were the SM with the orange label. They just sit on my hair (even after I rinse them out) and weigh it down. I've had to use soap bars to get the residual ingredients out.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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  • MaggieTMaggieT Posts: 175Registered Users Curl Novice
    Kathy, thanks so much for weighing in! It's definitely low-porosity; if I do the sink test, it never sinks. (Not if I leave it all day.) And it's hard to get products to absorb. But with long 3b curls that I only wash 1-2 times a week (and I only finger detangle in the shower, never with a comb or brush out of the shower), it does get tangled; and I take a longish shower when I cowash in order to let the condish sit, shave, things like that.

    I find that if I use something I want to get rid of (like the Aubrey), my hair just ends up dry and piece-y; I can't get any clumps and I get stringy, 1980s curls. With something sightly better (like the Giovanni) I can get soft clumps; but I'd love to find something that really moisturizes and shines, the whole nine yards. I always get that if I DT, and I feel like, surely there has to be a RO that will do it in between DTs?

    Thanks as ever for your good advice -- always appreciate it!
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    3b, fine, medium density, normal porosity
    Wash: Deva No Poo, sometime Phytojoba, Avalon lemon when needs clarifying
    Rinse-out: Deva One Condition, CJ Beauticurls Strengthening, Phytojoba (kinda heavy for my hair but good noisture)
    DT: CJ CCCCL, or KCKT
    Leave-in: Phytokeratine, CCCCL
    Styling: Deva Coconut Supercream or their Wave Maker with a little CS over the top
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    The float test is notoriously unreliable. You need to do the test where you run your fingers from tip to root. If it slips and, possibly squeaks, it's low porosity.

    I was going by the length in your avatar. Possibly frequent trims would help.

    You're using some products with polyquats. Maybe if you try not using them after you shampoo--see what happens. While I'm told that they don't build up, for me, they seemed to "coat" my hair and cause frizz when wet. Haven't had that problem since I've eliminated them.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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  • chloe92uschloe92us Posts: 1,203Registered Users
    That Aubrey Organics honeysuckle rose conditioner is absolutely the most disgusting-smelling, did-absolutely-nothing-for-my-hair, conditioner I have ever used! I bought it based on recommendations here, but realized the formula changed last year, and the good recs were for the old formula!

    Kinky Curly Knot Today is AWESOME for detangling, and I use it as a leave-in sometimes. For RO, I like Yes to Cucumbers or GVP Conditioning Balm.

    My hair doesn't have the same props as you, but those are good ones I've found. HTH.
    2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
    Cleanse: AIA cowash, TJ Tea Tree Condish
    Condish: JC Too Shea, Tresemme Botanique
    Stylers: flax/okra gel or KCCC + CJ PP or JC Spiralicious
    Experimenting with Got2B Ultra gel and loving it so far!
  • MaggieTMaggieT Posts: 175Registered Users Curl Novice
    kathymack wrote: »
    The float test is notoriously unreliable. You need to do the test where you run your fingers from tip to root. If it slips and, possibly squeaks, it's low porosity.

    I was going by the length in your avatar. Possibly frequent trims would help.

    You're using some products with polyquats. Maybe if you try not using them after you shampoo--see what happens. While I'm told that they don't build up, for me, they seemed to "coat" my hair and cause frizz when wet. Haven't had that problem since I've eliminated them.

    Kathy, wait, what test is that? (Is there a post or a video on it? I'm not sure if you mean to pinch the hair between two fingers, or just to run the fingers up -- or down -- the strands?) I'll totally do that.

    Hear you on the trims, but not an option at $135/pop and trying to grow my long hair back after a disastercut. Anyway, it's the top of the hair that gets really dry, more than the bottom; ends aren't super split.

    Label-reading newbie question: Are all polyquats listed as polyquats on labels, or is there stuff with different kinds of names that are polyquats? I will look out for that, thank you!
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    3b, fine, medium density, normal porosity
    Wash: Deva No Poo, sometime Phytojoba, Avalon lemon when needs clarifying
    Rinse-out: Deva One Condition, CJ Beauticurls Strengthening, Phytojoba (kinda heavy for my hair but good noisture)
    DT: CJ CCCCL, or KCKT
    Leave-in: Phytokeratine, CCCCL
    Styling: Deva Coconut Supercream or their Wave Maker with a little CS over the top
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    MaggieT wrote: »

    Kathy, wait, what test is that? (Is there a post or a video on it? I'm not sure if you mean to pinch the hair between two fingers, or just to run the fingers up -- or down -- the strands?) I'll totally do that.

    Hear you on the trims, but not an option at $135/pop and trying to grow my long hair back after a disastercut. Anyway, it's the top of the hair that gets really dry, more than the bottom; ends aren't super split.

    Label-reading newbie question: Are all polyquats listed as polyquats on labels, or is there stuff with different kinds of names that are polyquats? I will look out for that, thank you!

    Here's the link on hair properties I usually give. It explains the porosity text-- Live Curly Live Free - Curly Hair Basics


    polyquat is short for polyquaternium They are always followed by numbers. There are some that are harder to remove then others. I've learned to stay away from all of them.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • MaggieTMaggieT Posts: 175Registered Users Curl Novice
    Kathy, you're so helpful, that's a great link. I am DEFINITELY low porosity on that test! Super fast and a faint squeak!
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    3b, fine, medium density, normal porosity
    Wash: Deva No Poo, sometime Phytojoba, Avalon lemon when needs clarifying
    Rinse-out: Deva One Condition, CJ Beauticurls Strengthening, Phytojoba (kinda heavy for my hair but good noisture)
    DT: CJ CCCCL, or KCKT
    Leave-in: Phytokeratine, CCCCL
    Styling: Deva Coconut Supercream or their Wave Maker with a little CS over the top
  • sexyspiralssexyspirals Posts: 99Registered Users
    I haven't found my ideal RO either, but lately I've been using Garnier Sleek and Shine. It's CG, thick and has good slip, and it's nice and cheap and doesn't have much of a smell. It doesn't weigh down my hair too much and it clumps well. I've been lazy about products for the past few years so I haven't tried too many different ones (ever since L'oreal discontinued the Vive Pro Nutri-Gloss I've had indifferent-to-poor reactions to other ROs) but this one is consistently not-problematic for me. I didn't have it when I lived in England and I found a UK brand there I loved for my RO, but I can't get that here so back to Garnier for me!

    Hope that helps!


    Hair type: Fine, fairly porous, shoulder length when curly. Probably a 3a or 3b with tight ringlets now that it's getting longer. Hair loves aloe, hates glycerin.

    Co-Wash: Suave Naturals Aloe and Waterlily (my HG conditioner!)
    Rinse Out: Garnier Sleek and Shine, Trevor Sorbie curl conditioner (UK only, unfortunately)
    Stylers: KCCC, AG Re:coil, TIGI mousse, but open to suggestions!
    Gels: BRHG (my one and only)


    CG since 03/28/09
  • MaggieTMaggieT Posts: 175Registered Users Curl Novice
    I'm gonna try the Garnier and the GVP (no Regis anywhere near me, alas); thanks for the suggestions. I also tried a new CJ condish today. Here's hoping, we'll see when it's dry!
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    3b, fine, medium density, normal porosity
    Wash: Deva No Poo, sometime Phytojoba, Avalon lemon when needs clarifying
    Rinse-out: Deva One Condition, CJ Beauticurls Strengthening, Phytojoba (kinda heavy for my hair but good noisture)
    DT: CJ CCCCL, or KCKT
    Leave-in: Phytokeratine, CCCCL
    Styling: Deva Coconut Supercream or their Wave Maker with a little CS over the top
  • joseybirdjoseybird Posts: 90Registered Users
    My hair is fine and low-porosity too, and I love SVP CB and coconut oil =) Or one of the SM conditioners + coconut oil. I leave my RO in overnight and rinse in the morning.
    3a - Fine, thin, non-porous hair - boo! :(


    Shampoo: SM shampoos

    Clarifying Shampoo: KC Come Clean

    Co-Wash: L'Oreal Cleansing Conditioners, As I Am Co-Wash

    Hair Gel: L.A. Looks Sport, KCCC, SM Curling Souffle

    DT Conditioner: SM Raw Shea Masque, SM Raw Shea conditioner + coconut oil, GVPCB

    LI Conditioner: Tresemme Naturals, KCKT, VO5 shea + SM baby oil

    Curl Enhancers: L.A. Looks Beachy Waves, Organix Moroccan Sea Salt Spray. AG re:coil
  • MaggieTMaggieT Posts: 175Registered Users Curl Novice
    Joseybird, what's SVP? And do you mix the coconut in yourself?
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    3b, fine, medium density, normal porosity
    Wash: Deva No Poo, sometime Phytojoba, Avalon lemon when needs clarifying
    Rinse-out: Deva One Condition, CJ Beauticurls Strengthening, Phytojoba (kinda heavy for my hair but good noisture)
    DT: CJ CCCCL, or KCKT
    Leave-in: Phytokeratine, CCCCL
    Styling: Deva Coconut Supercream or their Wave Maker with a little CS over the top
  • joseybirdjoseybird Posts: 90Registered Users
    MaggieT wrote: »
    Joseybird, what's SVP? And do you mix the coconut in yourself?

    Oh sorry I meant GVP!

    I scoop out some coconut oil and mix it in my palms with the conditioner, then smooth it through my hair :)
    3a - Fine, thin, non-porous hair - boo! :(


    Shampoo: SM shampoos

    Clarifying Shampoo: KC Come Clean

    Co-Wash: L'Oreal Cleansing Conditioners, As I Am Co-Wash

    Hair Gel: L.A. Looks Sport, KCCC, SM Curling Souffle

    DT Conditioner: SM Raw Shea Masque, SM Raw Shea conditioner + coconut oil, GVPCB

    LI Conditioner: Tresemme Naturals, KCKT, VO5 shea + SM baby oil

    Curl Enhancers: L.A. Looks Beachy Waves, Organix Moroccan Sea Salt Spray. AG re:coil
  • turquoisecurlsturquoisecurls Posts: 134Registered Users
    Right now the best rinse out for my daughter ( low porosity} and for me ( high porosity) is V05 ocean refresh, I bought it as a co wash but it gives both of us soo much slip and moisture it is HG rinse out.
    We both have to wash hair daily at he moment and it is great that we don't need much to get the job done and a bottle last us 2 weeks!
    My new philosophy, if I need half a bottle to detangle it is time to get a new conditioner, the GVP lasted 4 days and the Knot today 5 days. So for now it is V05 for us :-)
    2c/3a cg 01/10/13

    Hair Properties: low( first 4 inches) / high porosity, medium density, fine/medium texture Climate : hot humid summer, coastal GA

    Co-wash: Suave Naturals Coconut / Everlasting Sunshine, V05
    Rinse out :Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture, VO5 ocean refresh
    LI: SMCHM ,SMCS, JCRR,
    Gel: La Looks sport, Volumax mega gel,Biosilk Rock Hard gel my HG

    Love ACV , pedaheh's gelatin treatment
    My hair hates everything Deva curl and Curl Keeper,
  • MyrnaMyrna Posts: 2,332Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Kathy: I have heard you speak out against polyquats enough so that I have consulted the wording in my product stash, and almost everything has polyquats! My Biotera Gel does not nor does it has glycerin - which I suspect is a no no for my hair. All the mousses have polyquats - and the one that seems to work best, Deva, has polyquaternium 60, which means what? but that is the highest number I have ever seen. That mousse works best with the Biotera gel. I have yet to find a go-to conditioner, which would also match what you said a bout coarse low porousity hair..which is also supposed to avoid protein...I think you can see why it is miracle that I have hair left, that it has not fallen out from all this hair anxiety (a new psychiatric diagnosis which I have just now invented); or, that I have not pulled it all out, and there IS a legitimate diagnosis term for that - anyhow, I would be glad to have your thoughts.
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    Myrna wrote: »
    Kathy: I have heard you speak out against polyquats enough so that I have consulted the wording in my product stash, and almost everything has polyquats! My Biotera Gel does not nor does it has glycerin - which I suspect is a no no for my hair. All the mousses have polyquats - and the one that seems to work best, Deva, has polyquaternium 60, which means what? but that is the highest number I have ever seen. That mousse works best with the Biotera gel. I have yet to find a go-to conditioner, which would also match what you said a bout coarse low porousity hair..which is also supposed to avoid protein...I think you can see why it is miracle that I have hair left, that it has not fallen out from all this hair anxiety (a new psychiatric diagnosis which I have just now invented); or, that I have not pulled it all out, and there IS a legitimate diagnosis term for that - anyhow, I would be glad to have your thoughts.

    You may find post #37 in this thread of interest http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/trying-shampoo-free-method/155992-tangled-mess-please-help-2.html#post2141338

    Here's an old article by Curl Chemist on polyquats All About Another Hard-to-Pronounce Compound The fact that they use the term "film forming" about 4 and 10 tells me why I have issues. Curl Chemist has responded to me in some threads that they don't build up. However, I know that I have issues with them, so avoid them.

    I really can't tell you about polyquaternium 60. I did a google search on both nc.com and the rest of the internet--didn't really see anything.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • ltdeforrestltdeforrest Posts: 61Registered Users
    My favorite rinse out is actually a deep treatment, Jessicurl Weekly Deep Treatment. My hair LOVES it as a rinse out! I also like Jessicurl Too Shea, but use that one mostly as a leave in. I also really like Elucence Moisture Balance Conditioner, it has great slip in my hair.
    3a, baby fine i/ii, low to normal porosity, protein sensitive
    Mod CG since 5/12, from rainy Western WA:toothy2:
    dislikes: glycerin, wheat protein :pukel:
    Likes: moisture, Mag Sulfate
    Poo: Elucence Moisture Acidifying Shampoo
    Cond: CJCR, DB pumpkin seed, TJ TTT, Elucence MB
    Protein: one & only Argan oil hydrating mask
    LI: JC WDT
    Style: UFD curly magic, Sweet Curls Elixers flax seed cream and HHG (Etsy)
  • kurlygurlykurlygurly Posts: 644Registered Users
    I live Aubrey Organics White Camellia conditioner. Great slip and wonderful moisturizer.

    Sent from my DROID RAZR using CurlTalk App
    3b-ish... normal to low porosity....med. texture
    Wash: Desert Essence Coconut shampoo, Acure argon shampoo
    Deep Trestment: Nature's Nectars deep conditioner/styler
    Condition: Nature's Nectars luv-n-a-bottle, Nature's Gate pomegranate sunflower
    LEAVE-IN:Nature's Nectars luv-n-a-bottle, Natures Gate pomegranate sunflower
    STYLE: Nature's Nectars Sweet Shea butter blend, Ecostyler gel
    hemp oil, jojoba oil
    www.naturesnectars.net
  • CurlsnswirlsCurlsnswirls Posts: 865Registered Users
    I have more than one I love :). I've used them for 2-3 years or more. GVP conditioning balm, kenra moisturizing, tressemme Naturals (moisturizing one), and Darcy's botanicals pumpkin conditioner....And just revisiting giovannis smooth as silk. I have also tried a 2 oz sample of MopTops daily conditioner and believe I will purchase a liter as soon as I'm able, it was wonderful on my hair. Oh, and sometimes I use my CJ curl rehab as a rinse out.
  • Always@nightAlways@night Posts: 566Registered Users
    Herbal Essence Hello Hydration Conditioner...it is such a great detangler:) and I use it as a leave in sometimes. The same with Tresemme naturals Nourishing Moisture conditioner.
  • MaggieTMaggieT Posts: 175Registered Users Curl Novice
    Corrina777 wrote: »
    I've recently become a very big fan of Regis Olive Oil Conditioner. It doesn't have the best slip out of my conditioners, but I find it has a nice protein/moisture balance. My hair properties are not identical to yours (I'm fine/thick/normal/normal), but I decided to try it based on rave reviews from someone with your identical properties.

    Corrina, thank you for this rec! I finally found some ROO, and WOW. May be the best RO I've ever used. I think because it's thick it really stuck to my hair (which doesn't accept ROs very well). Smells like heaven, curls are soft, shiny, and very natural looking. Thank you! If it keeps working like this, it's my new HG!
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    3b, fine, medium density, normal porosity
    Wash: Deva No Poo, sometime Phytojoba, Avalon lemon when needs clarifying
    Rinse-out: Deva One Condition, CJ Beauticurls Strengthening, Phytojoba (kinda heavy for my hair but good noisture)
    DT: CJ CCCCL, or KCKT
    Leave-in: Phytokeratine, CCCCL
    Styling: Deva Coconut Supercream or their Wave Maker with a little CS over the top
  • pianogirlpianogirl Posts: 59Registered Users
    My hair is low porosity but it is extremely thick and course. The rinse out I choose to use makes a huge difference in how long it takes me to comb through my hair after I shower. I know a lot of people don't comb out of the shower but I have to or my hair is crazy. I just tried the Kinky Curly Knot Today that so many people recommend but I was not at all impressed with how it worked as a detangler. One thing that I have really liked that you haven't mentioned trying is the Yes To Carrots. I think the Carrot one is my favorite and it has a lot of slip. Since you hair is more fine you might like one of the other Carrot shampoos better. I have also tried the tomato one which seems lighter. Lots of people seem to rave about the Cucumber one but I haven't tried it. You may want to check one of them out.
    2C, low porosity, high density, coarse, shoulder length No sulfates, no parabens, no silicones
    Shampoo- Shea Moisture Coconut Hibiscus, Giovanni Smooth As Silk, Deva No Poo, Nature's Gate Aloe Vera, Yes To Carrots
    Conditioner- Shea Moisture Curl & Style Milk, Giovanni Smooth As Silk, Deva One Condition, Nature's Gate Aloe Vera, Yes To Carrots
    Styler- Shea Moisture Curl Enhancing Smoothie, Shea Moisture Shine & Hold Mist, Yes to Carrots Leave In and Yes To Carrots Anti-Frizz Serum
  • MyrnaMyrna Posts: 2,332Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I have cucumber and tomatoes and I like them both. Also TSN.
  • JessiebananaJessiebanana Posts: 940Banned Users
    kathymack wrote: »
    I'm going to come out of "left field" with this answer--and it's only my opinion. If your hair is truly low porosity, your rinse out is your least important product. Unless you take a LONG shower, a minute, or two, on low porosity hair isn't going to do a lot.

    I get my hair cut every six weeks. It only tangles if I use an ingredient it HATES (castor and mineral oil do it.) The fact that you want something with "slip to detangle" makes me question whether or not your hair is low porosity.

    Frequently, I use product that I want to get rid of as my rinse out. If it's a richer styling product, it works well for that purpose. The only product(s) that gave me a problem were the SM with the orange label. They just sit on my hair (even after I rinse them out) and weigh it down. I've had to use soap bars to get the residual ingredients out.

    I'm going to have to disagree. I apply my conditioner first thing in the shower and rinse it last, so that's at least 7 minutes (the shortest show I am capable of taking). So many rinse out conditioners leave my hair gunky, so finding a conditioner that isn't so light it does nothing or too heavy it weighs on my hair was very difficult. I have been really happy with the DB Pumpkin Conditioner for 6 months now.
    3C/Fine to Medium/Low Porosity/High Density

    :love5:MoistureMoistureMoisture:love5:

    Low Poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo
    RO/DC: DB Pumpkin Seed Curl Moisturizing Conditioner
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: Queen Helene Sculpturing Gel & Glaze

    No Salts, No Waxes, No Butters, No Heavy Oils
    No ACV, No Saponified Oils, Protein Sensitive
  • MyrnaMyrna Posts: 2,332Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I would agree that the conditioner may not be as important as other things, but my hair is low porosity, and COARSE, whereas your hair is finer, Jessie. I think the conditioner may be more important for me in the winter, with the cold and dry. In the summer - I am not so sure.
  • Corrina777Corrina777 Posts: 3,193Registered Users
    MaggieT wrote: »
    Corrina777 wrote: »
    I've recently become a very big fan of Regis Olive Oil Conditioner. It doesn't have the best slip out of my conditioners, but I find it has a nice protein/moisture balance. My hair properties are not identical to yours (I'm fine/thick/normal/normal), but I decided to try it based on rave reviews from someone with your identical properties.

    Corrina, thank you for this rec! I finally found some ROO, and WOW. May be the best RO I've ever used. I think because it's thick it really stuck to my hair (which doesn't accept ROs very well). Smells like heaven, curls are soft, shiny, and very natural looking. Thank you! If it keeps working like this, it's my new HG!

    I just saw this today. I'm so glad you like it!! I was always accustomed to RO just sitting on my hair and providing enough slip to detangle, but I feel like my hair actually absorbs ROO, which is something I've only found with a small handful of other ROs. I generally leave most of it in now, rather than using a separate LI, which is something I couldn't do with the conditioners that just sat on top of my hair.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    3a/f/iii
    Modified CG since 11/5/11
    CLEANSE: CJ Daily Fix, DevaCare No-Poo, CHS Treatment Shampoo
    RO: SS Caitlin's Conditioner, CJ Beauticurls Strengthening
    LI: SS Repairing Protein Treatment, CHS Silk Leave-In
    STYLE: Re:Coil, Curl Keeper, Deva Ultra Defining Gel, Curls Rock Amplifier,Sweet Curls Elixirs Okra Gel and Hard Hold Gel, SS Curl Enhancing Jelly and Firm Hold Gel