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Has anyone purchased Camille Rose at Target?

jneen1105jneen1105 Posts: 19Registered Users
I know they are not officially in stores until the 18th, but some stores have already put the products out. I'm interested in knowing whether any of their ingredients changed for the products that will be sold in Target. They are marketing them as "exclusively sold in Target." So, are they going to stop selling the products at other places or is there something different about the products being sold at Target?

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  • jneen1105jneen1105 Posts: 19Registered Users
    I just received a response from their customer service. Ingredients will be the same.

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  • redbreredbre Posts: 29Registered Users
    Thanks for this! I was wondering, as well.
  • mimismommimismom Posts: 202Registered Users
    I just picked up the Curl Love Moisture Milk, Algae Deep Conditioner and the Almond Jai Twisting Butter today and compared them to items I ordered online and have been using for the past few months and there definitely are differences in the ingredients. There are too many for me to list all of them right now but here's the info for the Curl Love Moisture Milk:

    Target version: Deionized Water, behentromonium methosulfate and cetearyl alcohol, avocado oil, rice bran oil, aloe barbadenis leaf, castor seed oil, macadamia seed oil, sorbitol, camellia (green tea) sinesis leaf, rice milk, rose seed oil, cetearyl alcohol, ceteareth 20, slippery elm bark, phenoxyethanol, caprylyl glycol, sorbitol acid, scent and love.

    My version at home: Distilled water, rice milk, macadamia oil, Shea oil, avocado oil, aloe Vera extract, green tea extract, btms, tocopherol (vitamin E), optiphen, natural fragrance and love.

    I've been loving Camille Rose products for over a year, especially the almond jai butter and I really hope that these formula changes don't mess up our relationship. However, the old moisture milk formula was never very moisturizing for me, so I'm hoping that this new version will work better for my hair.
  • redbreredbre Posts: 29Registered Users
    Wow. That seems like a pretty big difference and they definitely changed the ingredients. Rice milk drastically went down the list! That's disappointing. I've been so excited to try their products...very lame.
  • redbreredbre Posts: 29Registered Users
    Please write back on your experience with the new product ingredients. Thanks in advance!
  • LovemenappyLovemenappy Posts: 332Registered Users
    She must've either changed the formula or is just displaying the ingredient list more accurately, It's really not that difficult to list ingredients in the order that they are used in a formulation....I don't know why so many businesses fail at this part (not referring to Camille Rose in particular by the way).
  • NoodleNapsNoodleNaps Posts: 463Registered Users
    mimismom wrote: »
    I just picked up the Curl Love Moisture Milk, Algae Deep Conditioner and the Almond Jai Twisting Butter today and compared them to items I ordered online and have been using for the past few months and there definitely are differences in the ingredients. There are too many for me to list all of them right now but here's the info for the Curl Love Moisture Milk:

    Target version: Deionized Water, behentromonium methosulfate and cetearyl alcohol, avocado oil, rice bran oil, aloe barbadenis leaf, castor seed oil, macadamia seed oil, sorbitol, camellia (green tea) sinesis leaf, rice milk, rose seed oil, cetearyl alcohol, ceteareth 20, slippery elm bark, phenoxyethanol, caprylyl glycol, sorbitol acid, scent and love.

    My version at home: Distilled water, rice milk, macadamia oil, Shea oil, avocado oil, aloe Vera extract, green tea extract, btms, tocopherol (vitamin E), optiphen, natural fragrance and love.

    I've been loving Camille Rose products for over a year, especially the almond jai butter and I really hope that these formula changes don't mess up our relationship. However, the old moisture milk formula was never very moisturizing for me, so I'm hoping that this new version will work better for my hair.

    Please report back after you've tried the Almond Jai Twisting butter especially. I have been loathe to try her products particularly after the issues with mold and her customer service reported on here, then someone gave me a jar of the Almond Jai Twisting Butter which I tried for the first time last week, and wow!
    She must've either changed the formula or is just displaying the ingredient list more accurately, It's really not that difficult to list ingredients in the order that they are used in a formulation....I don't know why so many businesses fail at this part (not referring to Camille Rose in particular by the way).

    I'm actually quite sure she wasn't listing them accurately before, and has now been forced to. I'm interested in hearing if performance has changed.

    @mimismom, is there a preservative listed in the Algae Deep Conditioner now? I seem to remember that was the main issue.
    Products in current rotation:

    Terressentials Pure Earth Mud Wash; Elucence MBC (now really just for cowashing, leg shaving or emergencies); Curl Junkie: Repair Me, Deep Fix, Curl Rehab; AOHSR (retiring); Oyin Handmade: Honey Hemp, Hair Dew, J&B; Qhemet Biologics: BRBC (retiring- prefer Oyin HD), AOHC, OHHB; Jojoba Oil for scalp; Castor Oil or Shea butter to seal; Henna & Ayurvedic pastes when I can be bothered.

    Still searching for the perfect stylers, but loving CJ CIAB over everything so far
  • jneen1105jneen1105 Posts: 19Registered Users
    This is so annoying! I'm going to write customer service back and see what they say about the discrepancy in the labels.

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  • mimismommimismom Posts: 202Registered Users
    So far I have tried the moisture milk and it smells the same and applies the same. The differences that I noticed is that my hair dried soft and didn't shrink up like the previous version so I'm really liking that :icon_smile:.

    Here are the ingredients for the algae deep conditioner:

    Target version: deionized water, aloe vera juice, butyrospermum parkii (shea) butter, cocos nucifera (coconut) oil, behentrimonium methosulfate, cetyl alcohol, dipropylene glycol (Btms), theobroma cacao (Cocoa) butter, mangifera indica (mango) seed butter, cannabis saliva (hemp) seed oil, panthenol, manuka honey, vegetable glycerin, camellia sinensis (green tea) extract, simmondsia chinensia (jojoba) seed oil, rosa canina (rose hip) fruit oil, bitis vinifera (grape) seed oil, oenothera biennis (evening primose) oil, phenoxyethanol and caprylyl glycol, blue green algae, dimethyl sulfone (msm), biotin, tocopheryl acetate (vitamin e), mentha piperita (peppermint) oil, scent and love.

    My old version: distilled water, blue green algae, honey, aloe vera juice, coconut oil, mango seed butter, shea butter, hemp, grapeseed, glycerin, green tea, panthenol, rose hip, jojoba oil, evening primrose oil, peppermint oil, msm, biotin, vitamin e and love.

    I thought the list looked long at first but it's actually just the full name of the ingredients listed now. She also added some things to the formulation and moved others around. The ingredients aren't bad so I'm hopeful it will still work for me. I also don't see any preservative besides Vitamin E. HTH!
  • mimismommimismom Posts: 202Registered Users
    Here are the ingredients for the almond jai twisting butter:

    Target version: deionized water, behentrimonium methosulfater (btms), cetearyl alcohol, prunus dulcis (almond) milk, prunus dulcis (almond) oil, cucurbita pepo (pumpkin) seed oil, sesamum indicum (sesame) seed oil, simmondsia chinensis (jojoba) seed oil, oryza sativa (rice) bran oil, macadamia ternifolia (macadamia nut) seed oil, olea europaea (olive) fruit oil, cannabis sativa (hemp) seed oil, ulmus fulva bark extract (slippery elm), ricinus communis (castor) seed oil/hydorgenated, aloe barbadensis (aloe) leaf juice, honey, camellia sinensis (green tea) leaf extract, phenoxyethanol, caprylyl glycol, sorbic acid, scent and love.

    My old version: almond milk, distilled water, aloe vera leaf juice, btms, almond oil, jojoba oil, olive oil, pumpkin seed oil, macadamia oil, hemp, honey, green tea, marshmellow root, amla, optiphen, natural fragrance and love.

    So again, some ingredients added, some removed and others moved around. And scientific names included on the label. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that my hair responds the same or better to the new formula.
  • hippychichippychic Posts: 4,673Registered Users
    mimismom wrote: »
    I just picked up the Curl Love Moisture Milk, Algae Deep Conditioner and the Almond Jai Twisting Butter today and compared them to items I ordered online and have been using for the past few months and there definitely are differences in the ingredients. There are too many for me to list all of them right now but here's the info for the Curl Love Moisture Milk:

    Target version: Deionized Water, behentromonium methosulfate and cetearyl alcohol, avocado oil, rice bran oil, aloe barbadenis leaf, castor seed oil, macadamia seed oil, sorbitol, camellia (green tea) sinesis leaf, rice milk, rose seed oil, cetearyl alcohol, ceteareth 20, slippery elm bark, phenoxyethanol, caprylyl glycol, sorbitol acid, scent and love.

    My version at home: Distilled water, rice milk, macadamia oil, Shea oil, avocado oil, aloe Vera extract, green tea extract, btms, tocopherol (vitamin E), optiphen, natural fragrance and love.

    I've been loving Camille Rose products for over a year, especially the almond jai butter and I really hope that these formula changes don't mess up our relationship. However, the old moisture milk formula was never very moisturizing for me, so I'm hoping that this new version will work better for my hair.
    AND they are now labeling with correct INCI ingredients (the home version label is ohhh so wrong)
    LOIS (OS); cottony, TYPE 4 hair, fine/med strands; no cones bcz my hair hates them; last relaxer '98; now low porosity:?, ignores most natural hair rules; BC #8

    faves: suave, v05 shampoo, conditioner (my own), raw shea butter, castor oil, peanut oil, aloe juice
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • CerendipityCerendipity Posts: 5,091Registered Users
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  • mimismommimismom Posts: 202Registered Users
    ^^LMAO
  • mimismommimismom Posts: 202Registered Users
    AND they are now labeling with correct INCI ingredients (the home version label is ohhh so wrong)[/QUOTE]

    Yeah I reached out to the owner and she said that the only slight formula change was adding cocoa butter to the dc. She also said the ingredients on all of the products are now labeled in the correct order. As long as the ingredients are good and my hair is happy I'll still use them.
  • hippychichippychic Posts: 4,673Registered Users
    mimismom wrote: »
    AND they are now labeling with correct INCI ingredients (the home version label is ohhh so wrong)

    Yeah I reached out to the owner and she said that the only slight formula change was adding cocoa butter to the dc. She also said the ingredients on all of the products are now labeled in the correct order. As long as the ingredients are good and my hair is happy I'll still use them.[/QUOTE]
    smdh @ bolded
    was this trickery?
    LOIS (OS); cottony, TYPE 4 hair, fine/med strands; no cones bcz my hair hates them; last relaxer '98; now low porosity:?, ignores most natural hair rules; BC #8

    faves: suave, v05 shampoo, conditioner (my own), raw shea butter, castor oil, peanut oil, aloe juice
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • redbreredbre Posts: 29Registered Users
    Thanks for all this info ladies. Sounds like its still a good product. I'll definitely still go ahead and give them a try.

    Thanks! :)
  • myhairDOTcommyhairDOTcom Posts: 123Registered Users
    if you buy it at Target and you don't like it, take it back. No money lost. That's why I'm so happy to see more boutique product lines moving into major chains. I really like some things from Camille Rose and some things from KBB, but trust if I don't like it off the shelf, Target will see me again with receipt in hand.

    Now if we could only get Curl Junkie in a store near me...
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    My hair: thick, medium/coarse, high porosity in the crown naturally, normal porosity everywhere else.

    Currently using...
    Poo: Any sulfate free or low sulfate poo
    Rinse out: Tresemme Naturals
    Leave-in: Camille Rose Moisture Milk
    DC: Eden Bodyworks Coconut Shea DC
    Stylers: Xtreme Wetline gel
    Oils: EVCO
    Moisturizer: Oyin Hair Dew/watered down CR Moisture Milk
    Sealant: Oyin pomades or JC Nourish and Shine
  • naturalyogininaturalyogini Posts: 430Registered Users
    mimismom wrote: »
    So far I have tried the moisture milk and it smells the same and applies the same. The differences that I noticed is that my hair dried soft and didn't shrink up like the previous version so I'm really liking that :icon_smile:.

    Here are the ingredients for the algae deep conditioner:

    Target version: deionized water, aloe vera juice, butyrospermum parkii (shea) butter, cocos nucifera (coconut) oil, behentrimonium methosulfate, cetyl alcohol, dipropylene glycol (Btms), theobroma cacao (Cocoa) butter, mangifera indica (mango) seed butter, cannabis saliva (hemp) seed oil, panthenol, manuka honey, vegetable glycerin, camellia sinensis (green tea) extract, simmondsia chinensia (jojoba) seed oil, rosa canina (rose hip) fruit oil, bitis vinifera (grape) seed oil, oenothera biennis (evening primose) oil, phenoxyethanol and caprylyl glycol, blue green algae, dimethyl sulfone (msm), biotin, tocopheryl acetate (vitamin e), mentha piperita (peppermint) oil, scent and love.

    My old version: distilled water, blue green algae, honey, aloe vera juice, coconut oil, mango seed butter, shea butter, hemp, grapeseed, glycerin, green tea, panthenol, rose hip, jojoba oil, evening primrose oil, peppermint oil, msm, biotin, vitamin e and love.

    I thought the list looked long at first but it's actually just the full name of the ingredients listed now. She also added some things to the formulation and moved others around. The ingredients aren't bad so I'm hopeful it will still work for me. I also don't see any preservative besides Vitamin E. HTH!
    phenoxyethanol and caprylyl glycol is the preservative. I knew that she wasn't listing all of the ingredients on the jars. You have to use ingredients to bind and emulsify the water, oil and butters together and those ingredients were missing from the homemade label.
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    3c/4a Very high porosity, fine, thin hair
  • ZinniaZinnia Posts: 7,339Registered Users
    if you buy it at Target and you don't like it, take it back. No money lost. That's why I'm so happy to see more boutique product lines moving into major chains. I really like some things from Camille Rose and some things from KBB, but trust if I don't like it off the shelf, Target will see me again with receipt in hand.

    Now if we could only get Curl Junkie in a store near me...

    This is not true for my Targets. These Targets will not accept used or opened products. I had to get an attitude with one of them about accepting an item that was made from faulty material and was not my fault. I very very rarely spend my money at Target because of this.
    Life shrinks or expands according to one's courage. Anais Nin
  • redbreredbre Posts: 29Registered Users
    Zinnia wrote: »

    This is not true for my Targets. These Targets will not accept used or opened products. I had to get an attitude with one of them about accepting an item that was made from faulty material and was not my fault. I very very rarely spend my money at Target because of this.

    Wow! Really? That's crazy. I've never had an issue returning items. It's part of their policy and listed very clearly on the website. I definitely would've gotten an attitude, as well. The return policy is the appeal of Target!

    Sorry you had to deal with that nonsense!
  • mimismommimismom Posts: 202Registered Users
    mimismom wrote: »
    So far I have tried the moisture milk and it smells the same and applies the same. The differences that I noticed is that my hair dried soft and didn't shrink up like the previous version so I'm really liking that :icon_smile:.

    Here are the ingredients for the algae deep conditioner:

    Target version: deionized water, aloe vera juice, butyrospermum parkii (shea) butter, cocos nucifera (coconut) oil, behentrimonium methosulfate, cetyl alcohol, dipropylene glycol (Btms), theobroma cacao (Cocoa) butter, mangifera indica (mango) seed butter, cannabis saliva (hemp) seed oil, panthenol, manuka honey, vegetable glycerin, camellia sinensis (green tea) extract, simmondsia chinensia (jojoba) seed oil, rosa canina (rose hip) fruit oil, bitis vinifera (grape) seed oil, oenothera biennis (evening primose) oil, phenoxyethanol and caprylyl glycol, blue green algae, dimethyl sulfone (msm), biotin, tocopheryl acetate (vitamin e), mentha piperita (peppermint) oil, scent and love.

    My old version: distilled water, blue green algae, honey, aloe vera juice, coconut oil, mango seed butter, shea butter, hemp, grapeseed, glycerin, green tea, panthenol, rose hip, jojoba oil, evening primrose oil, peppermint oil, msm, biotin, vitamin e and love.

    I thought the list looked long at first but it's actually just the full name of the ingredients listed now. She also added some things to the formulation and moved others around. The ingredients aren't bad so I'm hopeful it will still work for me. I also don't see any preservative besides Vitamin E. HTH!
    phenoxyethanol and caprylyl glycol is the preservative. I knew that she wasn't listing all of the ingredients on the jars. You have to use ingredients to bind and emulsify the water, oil and butters together and those ingredients were missing from the homemade label.

    Oh ok thanks for the clarification.
  • myhairDOTcommyhairDOTcom Posts: 123Registered Users
    Zinnia wrote: »
    if you buy it at Target and you don't like it, take it back. No money lost. That's why I'm so happy to see more boutique product lines moving into major chains. I really like some things from Camille Rose and some things from KBB, but trust if I don't like it off the shelf, Target will see me again with receipt in hand.

    Now if we could only get Curl Junkie in a store near me...

    This is not true for my Targets. These Targets will not accept used or opened products. I had to get an attitude with one of them about accepting an item that was made from faulty material and was not my fault. I very very rarely spend my money at Target because of this.

    Wow....I've never had a problem returning opened products to Target. I didn't know they had discretion about returns like that.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    My hair: thick, medium/coarse, high porosity in the crown naturally, normal porosity everywhere else.

    Currently using...
    Poo: Any sulfate free or low sulfate poo
    Rinse out: Tresemme Naturals
    Leave-in: Camille Rose Moisture Milk
    DC: Eden Bodyworks Coconut Shea DC
    Stylers: Xtreme Wetline gel
    Oils: EVCO
    Moisturizer: Oyin Hair Dew/watered down CR Moisture Milk
    Sealant: Oyin pomades or JC Nourish and Shine
  • ZinniaZinnia Posts: 7,339Registered Users
    Yes! And due to this...no shopping at Target for me because of the attitude of returning clearly faulty merchandise. Thankfully, Target hasn't really been a go-to store for me, so I don't miss it.

    Regarding the hair products, I was told to read the return policy sign, which states only non-opened, non-used items can be returned. She did refund the money, but had an attitude and told me this was a one time transaction.
    Life shrinks or expands according to one's courage. Anais Nin
  • KinkyChicKinkyChic Posts: 58Registered Users
    Curl Maker has a different formulation. I've seen it at a local hair supply store and it looks different from the old formulation.

    I think MakeupbeautyJunkie did a review on the new versus the old version. It may be listed under naturallycurly.com videos.
  • myhairDOTcommyhairDOTcom Posts: 123Registered Users
    Walked into Target to pick up some KCCC and what do I SEE??? Camille rose!!! Got the DC and moisture milk and used them last night. That DC makes my hair feel like butter y'all. And this moisture milk is some kind of thick awesomeness. I will be picking up the almond jai twisting butter.

    I also saw the curl maker and would have grabbed it to try but the 2nd ingredient is glycerin and its 22bucks. If you're going to charge LIKE uncle funkys you have to compare to uncle funkys...IMO.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    My hair: thick, medium/coarse, high porosity in the crown naturally, normal porosity everywhere else.

    Currently using...
    Poo: Any sulfate free or low sulfate poo
    Rinse out: Tresemme Naturals
    Leave-in: Camille Rose Moisture Milk
    DC: Eden Bodyworks Coconut Shea DC
    Stylers: Xtreme Wetline gel
    Oils: EVCO
    Moisturizer: Oyin Hair Dew/watered down CR Moisture Milk
    Sealant: Oyin pomades or JC Nourish and Shine
  • bobo77bobo77 Posts: 105Registered Users
    Has anyone in the Dallas area seen these products in any of the Targets here? I have been calling my surrounding area targets to find NOTHING !! :(
    Lovin my coils and my straight PJ'ism
    Been natural for about 3 years but Bc'd July 2010
    FAVORITE PRODUCTS:
    Oyin hair dew,CJSL, AOMM,OSHP
    Giovanni smooth as silk conditioner
    Bed Head moisture maniac
    Jojoba oil,Amla oil,AVPWHG,
    Ojon restorative hair treatment
    Mozeke CHB, Fleurzty CNC
    CurlyKinks Coil Jam, Satin Roots
    Nubian Heritage Mango butter
    Ok ok ok........I'll stop for now.
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  • JahNaturalDezignJahNaturalDezign Posts: 1,160Registered Users
    Zinnia wrote: »
    if you buy it at Target and you don't like it, take it back. No money lost. That's why I'm so happy to see more boutique product lines moving into major chains. I really like some things from Camille Rose and some things from KBB, but trust if I don't like it off the shelf, Target will see me again with receipt in hand.

    Now if we could only get Curl Junkie in a store near me...

    This is not true for my Targets. These Targets will not accept used or opened products. I had to get an attitude with one of them about accepting an item that was made from faulty material and was not my fault. I very very rarely spend my money at Target because of this.

    Would you happen to live in an incorporated town because they can sometimes have their own regulations about accepting returns on open items and certain beauty products. I ask because I can return nail polish at a couple of Sally's by my house but there one that's in a incorp town and she told me they couldn't take nail polish and some beauty items back even if they haven't been open.
  • JahNaturalDezignJahNaturalDezign Posts: 1,160Registered Users
    I was able to grab the last Almond Jai Twisting Butter at my Target today. This is a staple of mines so I'll be using it in a couple of days when I wash. I'll report my results.
  • myhairDOTcommyhairDOTcom Posts: 123Registered Users
    Zinnia wrote: »
    if you buy it at Target and you don't like it, take it back. No money lost. That's why I'm so happy to see more boutique product lines moving into major chains. I really like some things from Camille Rose and some things from KBB, but trust if I don't like it off the shelf, Target will see me again with receipt in hand.

    Now if we could only get Curl Junkie in a store near me...

    This is not true for my Targets. These Targets will not accept used or opened products. I had to get an attitude with one of them about accepting an item that was made from faulty material and was not my fault. I very very rarely spend my money at Target because of this.

    Would you happen to live in an incorporated town because they can sometimes have their own regulations about accepting returns on open items and certain beauty products. I ask because I can return nail polish at a couple of Sally's by my house but there one that's in a incorp town and she told me they couldn't take nail polish and some beauty items back even if they haven't been open.

    I live in a suburb just outside of a major city. All of the Targets (about 10 stores) in my area accept returns of open products.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    My hair: thick, medium/coarse, high porosity in the crown naturally, normal porosity everywhere else.

    Currently using...
    Poo: Any sulfate free or low sulfate poo
    Rinse out: Tresemme Naturals
    Leave-in: Camille Rose Moisture Milk
    DC: Eden Bodyworks Coconut Shea DC
    Stylers: Xtreme Wetline gel
    Oils: EVCO
    Moisturizer: Oyin Hair Dew/watered down CR Moisture Milk
    Sealant: Oyin pomades or JC Nourish and Shine